2011.01.05 19:00 - Play as Chaos

The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

I arrived to find Hermes Oxalis and Vector Marksman in the playgota.  I had never met them so I began with the basics.

Hermes Oxalis: saw the flahing light, being?
stevenaia Michinaga: hello
Vector Marksman: Hello
Hermes Oxalis: hello
stevenaia Michinaga: there will be a meeting here at 7:00 if you wish to join us
stevenaia Michinaga: have you been to a regular meeting before?
Vector Marksman: Oh thanks - I have been occasionally
Hermes Oxalis: hmmm, how about you Vector?
stevenaia Michinaga: We do record the meetings and post them on the groups WIki, is that ok to post your comments
Vector Marksman: yes
Hermes Oxalis: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: thank, ofcourse sometime nobody shows up...smiles
Vector Marksman: are you a facilitator
stevenaia Michinaga: were you given a notecard?
Hermes Oxalis: not I
Vector Marksman: no
stevenaia Michinaga: the meetings facilitated, per say, I am here to be sure the log gets posted to the wiki and to try to keep things on track the best I am able
Hermes Oxalis: thank you

--BELL--

Hermes Oxalis: stevenala, are we here about "play"?
Vector Marksman: Play seems to me to have an open ended quality
stevenaia Michinaga: actually the bell announces a 90 second "pause" to take a moment and... stop for a moment
Vector Marksman: sorry
stevenaia Michinaga: when our experiment here is to explore the nature of reality through Play, ... and we have been at it for almost 3 years, I think your open ended comment is close to right on"
stevenaia Michinaga: usually it posts text to the log announcing the 90 second pause but it didn't; seem to do that
stevenaia Michinaga: maybe I should kick it
Hermes Oxalis: three years? 30 here, I can pause, bell again?
Vector Marksman: virtually speaking
stevenaia Michinaga: it rings every 15 minutes, sometimes we can suggest a topic to meditate on for that time and talk about it after to see what arises
Vector Marksman: ok
Vector Marksman: is there a topic you might be thinking of
stevenaia Michinaga: the framework of the investigation is to pause 9 seconds ever 15 minutes and jot a note down in a journal, the pause to take stock of the moment , a moment to empty
Hermes Oxalis: did you jot down something you wish to share?
stevenaia Michinaga: clear your mind for a second
stevenaia Michinaga: no I was distracted by my cat
Vector Marksman: ah - be in the moment
stevenaia Michinaga: but some here are more rigurous than others, yes, mindfulness
Vector Marksman: what you mean by rigooursu
stevenaia Michinaga: for me the moment of emptiness is like pushing water away ... then something new rushes in
stevenaia Michinaga: sorry bad spelling... rigorous, keep a journal, I do not
Vector Marksman: Journal based on this exercise or on something like this?
stevenaia Michinaga: based on taking 9 second meditations throughout the day
Hermes Oxalis: until, now, are we, ourselves, playing?
stevenaia Michinaga: every 15 minutes or so
Hermes Oxalis: no, no player waits so long, play is uninterrupted, or, is it "play"?
stevenaia Michinaga: the "Play" aspect began as a tool, to find what something is ... that you do not know, something that cannot be described, similar to Dao...
stevenaia Michinaga: so to investigate what is "being" we Play as being and let it define itself
stevenaia Michinaga: if that makes sense
Hermes Oxalis: hmmmmm, not too sure about that. play may not be the tool, but silence, yes
stevenaia Michinaga: silence can be the "Playing"
Hermes Oxalis: pause
stevenaia Michinaga: the bell should ring in a moment... think Play and see where it goes

--BELL--

Hermes Oxalis: think?
Vector Marksman: break the stream of thought that is going so fast
stevenaia Michinaga: words can be so imprecise
Hermes Oxalis: a"greed"
Vector Marksman: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I often see parallels to things I did not know one minute and Know in a flash
Vector Marksman: ? example
Hermes Oxalis: twa
stevenaia Michinaga: we all have that capacity for some things, like love, how do you explain love to someone who has never been in love, yet once they have fallen, it is all so comprehensible
stevenaia Michinaga: you can read about it forever and never "be in love" until you are
Vector Marksman: experience matters - not words
Hermes Oxalis: too complicated, play is spontaneous
Vector Marksman: only spontaneous?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, like creativity, unfocus brings focus
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Druth
druth Vlodovic: hi steve, vector, hrmes
Hermes Oxalis: howdy
druth Vlodovic: ewan :)
stevenaia Michinaga: are you a bunny
druth Vlodovic: I'm not an armadillo
Ewan Bonham: Hi Folks..:)
Vector Marksman: Hi
Hermes Oxalis: howdy
stevenaia Michinaga: I am having problems seeing people, aww there you are Ewan
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Paradise
Ewan Bonham: Yes...some rezzing problems..:)
stevenaia Michinaga: that's druth at your knees
Paradise Tennant: so sorry druth
Paradise Tennant: did I sit on you
Paradise Tennant: ouch
druth Vlodovic: aww, now I'm all alone
Paradise Tennant: you did no rez for me
druth Vlodovic: were you talking about meditation steve?
stevenaia Michinaga: we were talking about "Playing"
stevenaia Michinaga: Playing as a meditation of sorts
Hermes Oxalis: how can we play, instead of talk about play?
druth Vlodovic: :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles at my rabbit friend
stevenaia Michinaga: wearing this helps sometimes
stevenaia Michinaga: onigokko
Ewan Bonham: Perhaps talking can be a form of play..
stevenaia Michinaga: stp
stevenaia Michinaga: stop
stevenaia Michinaga: play can be silly at times
Paradise Tennant: onigokko
druth Vlodovic: relax and find a smile, that's play
Hermes Oxalis: go for it
stevenaia Michinaga: stop
stevenaia Michinaga: grins
Paradise Tennant: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: brb...
Hermes Oxalis: smiles, true s"miles" are playful, play bridges gaps
Susan Aloix: hi all
Paradise Tennant: hiya susan welcome :)
Susan Aloix: :) Hi Paradise
Hermes Oxalis: hello, susan
Ewan Bonham: Hi Sisan..!
Susan Aloix: Hi Hermes...Ewan :)
Hermes Oxalis: my god, preschool galore
Vector Marksman: HI
Susan Aloix: Hi Vector
Vector Marksman: What isonigokko?
Hermes Oxalis: hi susan, excuse, not greeting

--BELL--

druth Vlodovic: you wear it, then if anybody says the magic word...
stevenaia Michinaga: back
stevenaia Michinaga: I was told once that "onigokko" was a Japanese deity
Susan Aloix: wb and hi stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: hi susan, you have been here before haven't you?
stevenaia Michinaga: hello whitebeard
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone :)
Hermes Oxalis: greetings
stevenaia Michinaga: White beard, oops
Susan Aloix: Hi Stevenaia - yes I have
Vector Marksman: hi
Paradise Tennant: hiya whitebeard , sophia :))
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Sophia
Hermes Oxalis: shalom
Susan Aloix: Hi Dr White
Susan Aloix: Hi Sophia
Whitebeard Sleydon: Greetings all
stevenaia Michinaga: Whitebeard, should you wish to join us, we record our sessions and post them on our Wiki, is it ok to include your comments?
druth Vlodovic: "A Japanese game that's a mix of hide-and-seek and tag"
stevenaia Michinaga: *our sessions
Whitebeard Sleydon: yes
Ewan Bonham: Hi Sophia..:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds like a fun game
stevenaia Michinaga: thank you
Vector Marksman: do you actually do it here?
stevenaia Michinaga: onigokko
Vector Marksman: play ta?
stevenaia Michinaga: stop
stevenaia Michinaga: no exactly
stevenaia Michinaga: not
stevenaia Michinaga: :0
SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah
Hermes Oxalis: ta?
druth Vlodovic: if you were wearing the objects I gave you you'd be doing it with them
druth Vlodovic: and have cute pig tails lol
Vector Marksman: Oh
Hermes Oxalis: how do we find them?
stevenaia Michinaga: they are in your inventory
stevenaia Michinaga: you select them and "wear" them, you can take them off later, if anyone asks
stevenaia Michinaga: as more people wear them the chaos increases
stevenaia Michinaga: I don't think we ever ran around for the 90 seconds, but that could be interesting
stevenaia Michinaga: would make RL more like the meditation the 90 seconds is supposed t be
druth Vlodovic: :) modified whirling dervishes
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: chaos as meditation... ponders how structured meditation actually is... or isn't
SophiaSharon Larnia: its difficult, ive tried it in my own way :)

--BELL--

SophiaSharon Larnia: possible to get in a zone, im not sure how mindful it is, being mindful of so many things at once ;)
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles at Hermes trying all the cushions :)
Vector Marksman: are any of them softer?
stevenaia Michinaga: I was mentioning before how clearing the mind is like bushing water out of the way and see what fills the void, this seems to be a very chaotic moment
stevenaia Michinaga: *pushing
Hermes Oxalis: just playing around
SophiaSharon Larnia: a meditation involving chaos, becoming the water
druth Vlodovic: I suppose that's what heavy metal was to alot of people i knew growing up
stevenaia Michinaga: chaos in some forms is very structured
SophiaSharon Larnia: like an urban retreat, becoming a part of the environment
druth Vlodovic: beh, keyboard bug
SophiaSharon Larnia: y'all, reminds me more of a trance state
SophiaSharon Larnia: (druth :) )
stevenaia Michinaga: do you meditate Hermes or Vector?
SophiaSharon Larnia: can you say more about chaos being structured, steve?
Vector Marksman: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: in some chaos there are still overriding patterns that the "chaos" is bond by, like the wind or water, seems random but it can be predicted
stevenaia Michinaga: but the rarely take each other's place
Vector Marksman: chaos is something that doesnt make sense. or I don't understand'
Vector Marksman: breaks up usual patten
Vector Marksman: makes space for something new
Hermes Oxalis: play has no pattern, does it?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, then there are the "unusual patterns " :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: i would think play is playing with patterns
Hermes Oxalis: or escaping them?
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :D
stevenaia Michinaga: building patterns
Vector Marksman: variations on patterns
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Toshiko
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Toshiko
Hermes Oxalis: is chaos "play"?
Ewan Bonham: Sorry I must go...rl...thanks all..
Paradise Tennant: good nite ewan
Hermes Oxalis: night
Susan Aloix: bye ewan
Vector Marksman: byes
SophiaSharon Larnia: in my mind. Chaos seem the epitome of play, i could be talked out it that view hah
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Ewan
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: Hello steve
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Lucinda
Hermes Oxalis: hi
Lucinda Lavender: and all
Susan Aloix: Hi Lucinda
Vector Marksman: I too must golll I would like to talk you out of chaos as the epitome of play though :}
SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
Vector Marksman: bye
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Vector
stevenaia Michinaga: onigokko
Hermes Oxalis: bye
Susan Aloix: Bye vector
SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
stevenaia Michinaga: bye victor
SophiaSharon Larnia: eep
Susan Aloix: um
stevenaia Michinaga: stop
SophiaSharon Larnia: ;p
Vector Marksman: wow
Susan Aloix: some chaos?
druth Vlodovic: actually as a scout leader I'll mention, too much chaos can hinder play
stevenaia Michinaga: a farewell moment of insanity
SophiaSharon Larnia: through in some chaos there Steve!
SophiaSharon Larnia: throw*
stevenaia Michinaga: can you wear it Druth, wnat's to see you hop

--BELL--

druth Vlodovic: onigokko
druth Vlodovic: stop
SophiaSharon Larnia: :D was waiting for the bell giggles
stevenaia Michinaga: that was the strangest running bunny I ever saw
SophiaSharon Larnia: ya know, i was just thinking about oniwhats yesterday, thinking i missed it!
Susan Aloix: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: oniwhats?
SophiaSharon Larnia: bunny? where?
Susan Aloix: I have to get going now....bye for now all :)
stevenaia Michinaga: at Paradises knees
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Susan
druth Vlodovic: have fun susan
stevenaia Michinaga: bye SUsan, thanks for joining us
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh i see it now, its smooshed
Susan Aloix: Bye Sharon :) bye druth...stevenania....mp
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: keeping cool by the fountain
SophiaSharon Larnia: mp
Lucinda Lavender: Is the rabbit druthbye Susan...
Susan Aloix: bye Lucinda
stevenaia Michinaga: wb Hermes
Lucinda Lavender: have a good night
SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Hermes :)
Lucinda Lavender: Is druth a rabbit?
druth Vlodovic: yeah
Lucinda Lavender: cool:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: cute! i love it
stevenaia Michinaga: a very cute bunny
druth Vlodovic: I even have ankle vision for authenticity :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehhe
Lucinda Lavender: :)
druth Vlodovic: feel free to scratch the bunny :)
Lucinda Lavender: you know I once had a bunny that looks much like you...Theodore:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe i was going to ask you to move around so i could see how you move :D
SophiaSharon Larnia: or hop *smiles*
stevenaia Michinaga: onigokko
stevenaia Michinaga: stop
stevenaia Michinaga: looks very strange Druth
SophiaSharon Larnia: a floating bunny !!!
druth Vlodovic: lol I fly
Lucinda Lavender: great to see a rabbit do the dance
Paradise Tennant: wow
Paradise Tennant: a flying rabbit
SophiaSharon Larnia: yay thanks
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehehe
stevenaia Michinaga: rocky.. oh that;s a flying squirrel
Lucinda Lavender: so very sweet!
Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves at Lucinda
SophiaSharon Larnia scratched the cute bunny
Lucinda Lavender: waving too Paradise...
SophiaSharon Larnia: scratches*
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Paradise :)
druth Vlodovic: pets get all the love :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh wait i thought you were saying goodbye
SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
Paradise Tennant: smiles no
Paradise Tennant: just saying hi late
Paradise Tennant: smiles
SophiaSharon Larnia: sritch scritch
SophiaSharon Larnia: your about the size of my rl cat against my avatar he's HUGE
SophiaSharon Larnia: my fault probably
Paradise Tennant: smiles cute bunny .. :)
Lucinda Lavender: cats and rabbits get wound up in my experience and race around for a while and then rest with legs flipped out to cool
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: ahh species that get along
SophiaSharon Larnia: mine lays like that all splayed out with his umm wares all spread out
Lucinda Lavender: ...:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: is still thinking about chaos :) and cats splayed out
Lucinda Lavender: nodding
SophiaSharon Larnia: the year of the rabbit
Lucinda Lavender: what about dreams I am wondering...any in this last few days?
SophiaSharon Larnia: me, yes, im rather dreaming these days
Lucinda Lavender: any you wish to share...
Paradise Tennant: well yes
SophiaSharon Larnia: dreamy*
Paradise Tennant: about a rabbit actually as it happens
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Lucinda Lavender: I dreamed of moving the furniture...really Paradise...how apropos
Paradise Tennant: ok you first then :)
Paradise Tennant: furniture ... what was that like
Lucinda Lavender: just this morning seeing that I had moved furniture on a north wall...making space.
stevenaia Michinaga: brb, laundry calling
Paradise Tennant: ok
Lucinda Lavender: then this afternoon I actually did and made my TV pick up two new stations...public network! yey
Paradise Tennant: lol

Paradise Tennant: perfect

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--BELL--

SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
druth Vlodovic: lol, TV visions
Lucinda Lavender: ll loves to move furniture to make space...
Paradise Tennant: yes I do too if only to get at the dust :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: id just like to throw out some of it
Lucinda Lavender: nod yes too
Lucinda Lavender: me too
Lucinda Lavender: ok so how about the rabbit Paradise...
Paradise Tennant: funny funny dream been with me for days totally clear
Paradise Tennant: was in a house .. older house .. not that familiar but was there
Paradise Tennant: met a rabbit about the size of a 9 year old child with lovely chocolate fur
Paradise Tennant: was all matted
Paradise Tennant: made friends
Paradise Tennant: ended up giving him a bath
Paradise Tennant: then we went for a walk
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Paradise Tennant: but started to share our thoughts so had complete non verbal communication
Paradise Tennant: we were walking in a park
Paradise Tennant: would look at a plant
Paradise Tennant: know how it would taste
Paradise Tennant: what the texture would be like when I chewed it
Paradise Tennant: the scent and flavor
Paradise Tennant: very amazing
Paradise Tennant: experience
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, sounds so
Paradise Tennant: smiles . nice
SophiaSharon Larnia: wow Paradise
Lucinda Lavender: wow...animal beings...there goodness...awareness...wisdom. Chocolate. color perhaps a kind of medicine..very wonderful also
Paradise Tennant: just really nice still makes me smile not ever going to be able to eat rabbit again
Paradise Tennant: we met a homeless man
Paradise Tennant: he was anxious
Paradise Tennant: worried
Paradise Tennant: unhappy
Paradise Tennant: i knew from the rabbit I was suppose to give him a card that was in my purse
Paradise Tennant: when I touched the card knew it would lead him to someone I know in rl who is dying from throat cancer
Paradise Tennant: woman of immense faith lovely sul
Paradise Tennant: soul
Paradise Tennant: gave him the card
Paradise Tennant: he walked off to find her
Paradise Tennant: I could see her waiting for him
Paradise Tennant: knew they would able all right once they found each other
Paradise Tennant: but did not think that was going to happen in this life
Paradise Tennant: stood there with the rabbit watching him go
Paradise Tennant: then we turned and walked back
Paradise Tennant: he smelt of soap
Paradise Tennant: and had a lovely hippy walk would bounce on his heel twice then spring bounce on his heel twice then spring standing up righ t
Paradise Tennant: he got ahead of me and I watched him walk smiling and i woke up ..smiling
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Lucinda Lavender: feels a sense of blessings...the cleaness of being in the home of the soul perhaps. Perhaps there meeting is after her death...
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: a next life
Paradise Tennant: hardly ever remember my dreams but when I do . they are just lovely
Lucinda Lavender: such a rich portrayal...ot the way these meetings might be...
Paradise Tennant: yes started to feel his thoughts when I was bathing his ears
Paradise Tennant: it tickled him and I could feel the tickle too
Lucinda Lavender: really! lovely connection.
Paradise Tennant: lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: interesting
Lucinda Lavender: oneness
Lucinda Lavender: the connection of two hearts...
Lucinda Lavender: animal and human
Paradise Tennant: hmm yes but when you experience it .. so feels like just one heart
Paradise Tennant: one big heart .. all sentient life
Lucinda Lavender: the field of heart energy
Paradise Tennant: yes

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: I have a place ai need to go now...I will ponder it further tho. The rabbit is a yin year I hear...
Paradise Tennant: smiles
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Paradise Tennant: good nite Lucinda
stevenaia Michinaga: bed time for me, thanks for such a rich dream, Paradise
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: good night to you all:)
Paradise Tennant: good nite stevenaia
Lucinda Lavender: smiling too
SophiaSharon Larnia: bedtime for me too :) thanks for sharing your dreams
Paradise Tennant: thank you
Paradise Tennant: good nite sophia
druth Vlodovic: 'night Lucinda, night steve
SophiaSharon Larnia: is hesitant to move the bunny :)
Paradise Tennant: going to go to bed too I think druth .to hopefully dream of rabbits :)
SophiaSharon Larnia slids out leg carefully :)
Paradise Tennant: lol
Lucinda Lavender: yes:) lots of goodness...
druth Vlodovic: 'night all
SophiaSharon Larnia: goodnight druth!!
Paradise Tennant: nite nite all