[13:21] Wol Euler: thursday 13 january, 1pm
[13:22] Wol Euler: hello cal
[13:22] Calvino Rabeni: Hi Wol
[13:24] Wol Euler: how are you on this fine Thursday?
[13:25] Calvino Rabeni picks the coloured marshmallows out of his breakfast cereal, takes a sip of his vodka-and-tonic, and says a few "OM"s
[13:26] Wol Euler: heheheheh
[13:26] Calvino Rabeni: :)
[13:26] Wol Euler: now *that* is a breakfast of champions.
[13:26] Calvino Rabeni: hehe
[13:26] Calvino Rabeni: Yeah, those marshmallows - kid stuff!
[13:26] Wol Euler: feh.
[13:26] Wol Euler: unless they are being shot out of an airpowered indoor rifle :)
[13:28] Calvino Rabeni: yeah
[13:28] Wol Euler: somebody posted a link to such a thing, perhaps geektoys.com
[13:28] Wol Euler: (and if that doesn't exist yet, I'm claiming it at once)
[13:29] Wol Euler: hello yaku
[13:29] Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
[13:29] Calvino Rabeni: You should claim it ... I was going to claim http://www.meditainment.com/ but it's been snagged
[13:31] Calvino Rabeni: Yaku-san - how do?
[13:32] Yakuzza Lethecus: a bit sleepy
[13:32] Calvino Rabeni: I like the tag line on that site - "Best viewed when totally stressed out!"
[13:32] Wol Euler: :)
[13:32] Wol Euler: must be popular
[13:33] Calvino Rabeni: Meditainment is a growing - at least billion dollar - industry
[13:33] Calvino Rabeni: Depending on how the genre is defined, of course
[13:34] Yakuzza Lethecus: meditate extremer ?
[13:34] Yakuzza Lethecus: faster
[13:34] Darren Islar: hey :)
[13:34] Yakuzza Lethecus: hey darren
[13:34] Calvino Rabeni: Hi Darren :)
[13:34] Wol Euler: hello darren
[13:34] Yakuzza Lethecus: lol, i thought on the meditainment link calvino just shared and that it´s a billion dollar industry :)
[13:34] Calvino Rabeni: So far, the genre doesn't have a "horror" category..
[13:34] Yakuzza Lethecus: not ur seession :)
[13:35] Calvino Rabeni: But I think if it did we can regard that as a kind of bellwether of developments
[13:35] Wol Euler: O.O
[13:35] Calvino Rabeni: Maybe they should start with "surrealism"
[13:35] Wol Euler: medi-horror is all too easily imagined (shudders)
[13:35] Yakuzza Lethecus: well, there are already fun cathegories like with mustard and toes :)
[13:38] Calvino Rabeni: There are a lot of "quality nouns" on offer at that site too.
[13:38] Wol Euler: hello zon
[13:38] Darren Islar: hi Zon
[13:38] Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zon
[13:38] Calvino Rabeni: Give yourself (peace/balance/energy/relaxation/optimism) RIGHT NOW
[13:39] Darren Islar: GREAT !!!
[13:39] Darren Islar: Where :)
[13:40] Calvino Rabeni: http://www.meditainment.com/
[13:41] Wol Euler: that is a pretty lousy name given that the site seems to be seriously selling meditation/mindfulness
[13:41] Calvino Rabeni: It's not quite instant - most of them take much longer than PaB's 9 or 90 second meditation.
[13:41] Zon Kwan: hye all
[13:41] Calvino Rabeni: Like 3 to 20 minutes
[13:41] Darren Islar: the look of the site doesn't appeal to me
[13:41] Calvino Rabeni: but on the other hand they don't suggest repeating and making a habit of it
[13:42] Wol Euler: designed by somebody who said "we don't to pay for a web designer"
[13:42] Darren Islar: right :)
[13:42] Darren Islar: but you also feel you can't take this seriously
[13:43] Darren Islar: serious
[13:43] Darren Islar: "Over a million people........."
[13:43] Calvino Rabeni: I like the irony of the design of that site - it's unifying a stuffy "file index card" display metphor with the jarring or exciting experience of colorful "experience" icons popping at you out of the black void.
[13:44] Calvino Rabeni: I think its been designed by a genius
[13:44] Wol Euler is curious.
[13:44] Darren Islar: :)
[13:44] Darren Islar: another way to look at it
[13:47] Darren Islar: though we are looking at it :)
[13:47] Calvino Rabeni: It has a kind of retro reference to Peter Max and 'sixties psychedlia but with an update to eighties or nineties direct-mail and multi-level marketing
[13:48] Calvino Rabeni: So it should appeal to both demographics
[13:48] Wol Euler laughs.
[13:48] Darren Islar: :)
[13:48] Calvino Rabeni: They should think about social-media-izing it however
[13:50] Calvino Rabeni: I was going to suggest, for one of the 90 second pauses, to consider how it could be lent more appeal in terms of pizazz or eye-candy.
[13:51] Wol Euler: :)
[13:51] Wol Euler: the opposite of brainstorming!
[13:52] Wol Euler: brain... hmm
[13:57] Calvino Rabeni: The 90 second pause is available without being defined in terms of content and method, so it is available as a framework for everyones own "experiments"
[13:58] Calvino Rabeni: And experiment is to decide to try something, and then see what happens, and compare
[13:58] Calvino Rabeni: A larger experiment might have a program of individual trials
[13:59] Calvino Rabeni: One could try something "different" each time
[13:59] Calvino Rabeni: and then later try something "the same" each time
[13:59] Calvino Rabeni: and see what the difference is between "different" and "the same"
[14:02] Calvino Rabeni: Like it's clear the experience of "relaxing with eyes closed during the pause" is different than "staring at the screen during the pause"
[14:02] Calvino Rabeni: But what about "relaxing with eyes closed imagining staring at the screen"
[14:02] Calvino Rabeni: ?
[14:02] Calvino Rabeni: I found a different body sense in all of those
[14:03] Calvino Rabeni: and it was possible to apply the "relaxing with eyes closed" body sense to "staring at the screen"
[14:03] Calvino Rabeni: when I tried that the colors were different
[14:03] Calvino Rabeni: as was the background of the room behind the screen
[14:06] Wol Euler excuses herself and sneaks off to do some land maintenance stuff that she's been distracted in IMs by all evening :( Goodngiht all
[14:06] Zon Kwan: nite all
[14:06] Yakuzza Lethecus: good night
[14:06] Calvino Rabeni: Excuse me too ... it's time for the Ways of Knowing meeting - thanks all
[14:06] Darren Islar: sorry guys, I'm not quite here
[14:06] Darren Islar: so better go
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