The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado. Present were Archmage Atlantis, Eliza Madriga, oO0Oo Resident, Yakuzza Lethecus and myself
Health Issues:
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
Zen Arado: Hi Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Nice jacket
Zen Arado: how are you this morning?
Zen Arado: cardigan ;)
Eliza Madrigal: OH :)
Eliza Madrigal: feeling fairly well, thanks
Eliza Madrigal: and you this afternoon?
Zen Arado: ok
Zen Arado: a bit headachy
Eliza Madrigal: :(
Zen Arado: just a little
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: I have a leaky heart valve they tell me
Eliza Madrigal: What does this mean?
Eliza Madrigal: does it weaken you?
Zen Arado: well I was getting swollen ankles
Zen Arado: went to doctor and she noticed I had a heart murmur
Zen Arado: so heart doesn't pump as well as it should
Zen Arado: heart
Eliza Madrigal: Is there anything they can do, or just watch this?
Zen Arado: gave me meds and might need operation
Zen Arado: it's quite common
Eliza Madrigal: yes but for it to affect your ankles/inflammation...
Zen Arado: amazing when you think my heart has been pumping relaibly for 68 years
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: I have an extra beat, supposedly
Zen Arado: arrhythmia?
Eliza Madrigal nods... can skip sometimes, but mostly when body is working hard during stress or a long time ago, during pregnancy
Eliza Madrigal: What IS a murmur exactly? they can hear it 'lag'?
Zen Arado: eyh..none of us have perfect health I guess
Zen Arado: yeh..they hear something using a stethoscope
Zen Arado: they did an ECG and ultrasound scan
Zen Arado: but my heart has moved a bit in my chest
Zen Arado: cos of MD
Zen Arado: my chest has sunk in a bit
Eliza Madrigal: ah, so with muscle weakness things can shift around
Zen Arado: yeh
Eliza Madrigal: good that you take care of yourself and follow up with appts Zen
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey the two of you :)
Zen Arado: cos of sunken chest my windpipe doesn't go straight down either
Zen Arado: Hi Yaku :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yaku
Eliza Madrigal: then shouldn't you wear a back belt? may help?
Zen Arado: doc said MD might be affecting my heart but my understanding is that it doesn't with my type of MD
Zen Arado: black belt?
Eliza Madrigal: *back... for posture
Zen Arado: oh back belt
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: so many mysteries... when I was ill I learned how clueless doctors are, haha
Eliza Madrigal: I mean, not willfully
Zen Arado: yeh
Eliza Madrigal: but we're complex creatures
Zen Arado: not many GP's have seen my type of muscular dystrophy
Zen Arado: it is quite rare
Eliza Madrigal: What makes it different?
Zen Arado: the way it affects the muscles
Eliza Madrigal: you must take good care of yourself Zen, so lively and 68 :))
Zen Arado: the severe form, Duchenne dystrophy kills you in your 20's
Zen Arado: my form is milder
Eliza Madrigal is glad
Zen Arado: Hi Sam :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sam
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: would prefer you not to have it at all but well :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sam :))
Eliza Madrigal: knowing you can't have preferences Zen, I'll have some for you
Eliza Madrigal grins
Yakuzza Lethecus: glad to still have you around zen! and good that ur still able to persue ur hobbies!
Zen Arado: :)
oO0Oo Resident: *!
Zen Arado: yeh we all make the best of what we have
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
oO0Oo Resident likes what Zen makes
Eliza Madrigal: oO0Oo is too far away though.... :::::takes out hook::::::
oO0Oo Resident: lol... how about a felt nudge over a hook? :)
Post Art of Being Exhibition:
Zen Arado: you didn't put anything in exhibitin Sam?
Eliza Madrigal nudges
Zen Arado: was looking for a nice poem from you
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
oO0Oo Resident: I :)
Eliza Madrigal: laughter helps posture too
Zen Arado: you made Sam restless now Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: with a still center
Zen Arado: yes I think so
oO0Oo Resident: I'm sorry I didn't make it in under the wire for Art of Being... just life stuff and waiting too long
oO0Oo Resident: I got part way there
Zen Arado: ok can't be helped
Eliza Madrigal: me too but I asked if I can add something after the fact :)
oO0Oo Resident: loved Bleu's pics
Eliza Madrigal: maybe 0 and I can make a display... back to back "Balance"
Zen Arado: I couldn't have made a costume
Zen Arado: yeh
Eliza Madrigal: dress up as Prime Minister, Zen?
Zen Arado: one dress in white ..other in black
oO0Oo Resident: 0's lips are ..... sealed
Zen Arado: events Dear boy...
Zen Arado: don;t know how PM's dress any more
Zen Arado: they used to be very formal
Eliza Madrigal: ^.^
Eliza Madrigal: yes I was thinking top hat and fru fru
Zen Arado: they wear suits tho
Zen Arado: top hat is going back a long way ;)
Zen Arado: 19 century
Eliza Madrigal: sure why not
Zen Arado: yeh too late for me now
Zen Arado: should have asked you Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: It was fantastic Zen
Eliza Madrigal: and a good idea
Zen Arado: a friend sent my poem to the woman who organizes Darryl Baileys events
Zen Arado: and she was pleased with it and showed it to him
Eliza Madrigal: wow, nice
Zen Arado: (it ws inspired by his teaching)
Eliza Madrigal: I listened to the link you sent... can see why you were inspired
Zen Arado: he said it was a good summary of his teaching
Eliza Madrigal: high praise
Zen Arado: wel...he was being kind I suspect
Zen Arado: but nice anyway :)
Eliza Madrigal: you tend to think kind and true are different things =P~
Zen Arado: I bought one of his books
Eliza Madrigal: :::Forces Zen to accept compliments:::::
Zen Arado: 'Dismantling the Fantasy'
oO0Oo Resident: hehe
Zen Arado is unworthy
Zen Arado: :)
Eliza Madrigal: wow I'm aggressive today... hooks and forcing and preferences
Eliza Madrigal: @@
Eliza Madrigal sits on hands
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Zen Arado: not agressive
oO0Oo Resident: and *not* unworthy :p
Eliza Madrigal: :) nods
The precept of refraining from elevating oneself and blaming others:
Zen Arado: ha was reading precept about not elevating oneself
oO0Oo Resident: sandwiched
Zen Arado: "In the sphere of the equal dharma, not making any distinction between oneself and others is called the precept of refraining from elevating oneself and blaming others.”
Zen Arado: http://www.tricycle.com/feature/seventh-zen-precept
Zen Arado: it's more about how we elevate ourselves by lowering others tho
Eliza Madrigal: to accept self/other as equal is not necessarily agreeing ... that can be tricky to see
Zen Arado: agreeing with what someone says?
Eliza Madrigal: or at least I find myself struggling a bit there... to be completely available to hear someone, not react
Zen Arado: or not judge?
Eliza Madrigal: and not be defensive... 'totally open without reservations'
Zen Arado: blame can be from fear
Zen Arado: "In every case of the kind of blame this precept concerns itself with there is condemnation or rejection of something outside that on the inside I actually am or am afraid I might be. "
Zen Arado: isn't that why we close up?
Zen Arado: and thinking...why do I need recognition?
Zen Arado: or praise?
Eliza Madrigal: misplaced trust perhaps, thinking for myself
Zen Arado: any talents we have are given to us
Zen Arado: we did nothing to earn them
Zen Arado: just exercising them is what is natural
Eliza Madrigal: well there is a whole situation too, isn't there..
Eliza Madrigal: a whole environment of which we have our part
Eliza Madrigal: not to shut down on
Zen Arado: we can enjoy the gifts of others tho
oO0Oo Resident: mmmm
Zen Arado: oh yes
Zen Arado: we don't 'hide them under a bushel'
Eliza's 'little light' :)
Eliza Madrigal: :) 'this little light of mine...'
Zen Arado: :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Zen Arado: I'm gonna let it shine
Eliza Madrigal: that was the first contemplative moment I remember in my life
Eliza Madrigal: when my Meme sang that to me and I though "what light?' 'oh!'
Eliza Madrigal: *thought
Zen Arado: remembere the hand movements too :)
Eliza Madrigal: Aw
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal pictures little Zen holding the bushel over his finger
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Zen Arado: don't even know what a bushel is
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Zen Arado: 'I love you a bushel and a peck'
Eliza Madrigal: that's a new one to me...
Zen Arado: before your time :)
oO0Oo Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTebgVrHEVM
Yakuzza Lethecus: *not viewable in germany*
Zen Arado: 'I love you, a bushel and a peck! A bushel and a peck, and a hug around the neck! A hug around the neck, and a barrel and a heap A barrel and a heap, and I'm talkin' in my sleep. About you. About you! About you! '
Zen Arado: Doris Day sang it
Zen Arado: from Guys and Dolls
Eliza Madrigal: Nice video... Springsteen! :::stomps in her seat, gospel singers in background::
Eliza Madrigal: I've seen Guys and Dolls... don't remember that... lyrics with people unafraid to be sweet
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Zen Arado: they aren't doing the actions :(
Eliza Madrigal: I must have missed them not doing that
Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
Zen Arado: speaking as an ex Sunday School teacher
Zen Arado: :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: phone call, have to go.... hope to see you all soon again, thanks for the playful morning and music :)
Zen Arado: maybe it was 'He made the stars to shine...He mae the ocean blue...'
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care eliza
Zen Arado: bye Eliza
Zen Arado: TC
Eliza Madrigal: bye for now, _/!\_ ((((((((((((((((( ))))))))))))))))
Arch and Snow Tigers:
Zen Arado: Hi Arch :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey arch
Zen Arado: nice costume
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, folks.....sorry for brown snake
Zen Arado: np
Archmage Atlantis: Actually Zen, more the real me than a costume
Zen Arado: hiss ok
Zen Arado: :)
Archmage Atlantis: A costume is the body I wear in rl
Archmage Atlantis: And usually in sl
Zen Arado: yeh ..an avatar isn't a costume
Archmage Atlantis: But today, no time to change
Zen Arado: a leonine av
Archmage Atlantis: snow tiger, actually......the basic self....
Zen Arado: oh
Zen Arado: a tiger's head is flatter than that?
Archmage Atlantis: leonine av
Archmage Atlantis: that would be a loin
Zen Arado: maybe not
Zen Arado: http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...QEwAw&dur=1854
Archmage Atlantis: Anyway, I came as is to feel the calm tha is here
Zen Arado: why not?
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, that is a snow Zen
Zen Arado: it looks serene
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, serene....and also stealthy
Zen Arado: they only hunt when hungry
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Zen
Archmage Atlantis: The ghost's of the tundra
Archmage Atlantis: My ride is here.......Blessings and Namaste
Yakuzza Lethecus: namaste arch
Zen Arado: namaste Arch
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye you both as well
Zen Arado: bye Yaku
Zen Arado: bye Sam
Zen Arado: see you later :)
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