2011.10.15 19:00 - Every Aspect of 99 Days is Unexpected

The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera.

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema :)
Pema Pera: hi Eliza!
Pema Pera: hi Steve!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevie :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Pema, Eliza, gtsy both
Pema Pera: I love your tai chi reports, Steve
Pema Pera: they are realy inspiring!
stevenaia Michinaga: I am enjoying them myyself, appriciate your comments as well
Eliza Madrigal: Hi naturespaw, nice to see you again
stevenaia Michinaga: I am jsut now begining to look up from my own and read the other blogs
Pema Pera: hi Nature!
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hello :) Good to see you again too Eliza, and everyone :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Naturespaw
Pema Pera: hi O !
stevenaia Michinaga: the shared aspect of this is something unexpected, actually every aspect of 99 days is unexpected :)
Pema Pera: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi oooOO0OOooo
Pema Pera: hi Claire!
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hey O! Hey Claire!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Claire
Claire Maskelyne: Hello, everyone!
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Claire, 0
Pema Pera: how long have you been doing tai chi, Steve?
stevenaia Michinaga: it will be 3 years in January
Naturespaw Bestijl: Wow.. Which form?
stevenaia Michinaga: on of the (many) Yang form
stevenaia Michinaga: *one
stevenaia Michinaga: enjoying the patience and slowness of learning
oO0Oo Resident waves , smiles all round and settles on a cushion.
Claire Maskelyne waves back to Samuo :)
Pema Pera: I did it a couple years, and enjoyed it tremendously. And it is really amazing to see how there is always such room for improvment, still, no matter how often you do a few simple tai chi moves . . .
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, soething that is never complete
Claire Maskelyne: What does Tai Chi do to the practitioner?
Pema Pera: hi Eos!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos :)
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hello Eos!
stevenaia Michinaga: accepting that is very specail
Eos Amaterasu: hello friends
stevenaia Michinaga: (the path , not the destination, that is important
oO0Oo Resident: Eos :)
Claire Maskelyne: Hello, Eos!
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eos
Pema Pera: tai chi is such a direct form of appreciation
Pema Pera: and I like the way you extended it to visualization, Steve
Pema Pera: imagining the moves
stevenaia Michinaga: learning that meditation is like that as well... you do it to get better at it.... forever :)
Eliza Madrigal nods nods
Pema Pera: without doing them at that moment
Naturespaw Bestijl: Tai chi is kind of like a form of moving meditation
Pema Pera: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: visualizing the body moves is as dificult as learning the actually moves pema
Pema Pera: perhaps more so . . .
Eliza Madrigal: 'meditation in action'
Pema Pera: I'm not sure whether I could visualize tying my shoe laces . . . .
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Naturespaw Bestijl: I like the way you coined it Eliza :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I expect the imporvement will be deeper as well
Eliza Madrigal: not my coin, but thanks :))
Eliza Madrigal: quoting Trungpa... book I was reading today but Stevie's comment so fitting
Pema Pera: do you have a favorite form of meditation, or some such form of practice, Naturespaw?
Eliza Madrigal listens
Naturespaw Bestijl: I'm actually learning Tai Chi too..
Pema Pera: oh, how nice!
Naturespaw Bestijl: except a more active form, in the Wudang Style
Naturespaw Bestijl: Which has a stronger emphasis on martial application
Pema Pera: yes, I've done that too, feels quite different
Eliza Madrigal: hmm
stevenaia Michinaga: My teacher may be reading the 99 day logs, she had me explain it to my class
Pema Pera: hehehe
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Pema Pera: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Classes_and_Sessions/The_99_Days_project/99.001_-_2011.09.01
Pema Pera: I have a suggestion: how about, during the next 90 sec break, doing tai chi with our thoughts? thinking them sloooooowly?
oO0Oo Resident: 99days ~ 99%
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful, yes
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, beauty and meditation in movement to redirect an attacker, not my favorit part about tai chi, yet it is so relivent to it
--BELL--
stevenaia Michinaga: my teacher began her learning with Kung Fu
Claire Maskelyne: As a form of meditation?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: not sure why she did that 20+ years ago Claire
Pema Pera: I enjoyed watching a thought come up, and indeed it slowed down, but then commenting thoughts came around the corner very quickly :-)
Eliza Madrigal: for me too, the commentary... once I noticed the tiny muscles beneath my eyes slightly twitching
Eliza Madrigal: before that, the thought 'where are the thoughts?'
Naturespaw Bestijl: When you guys "clear your mind", Do you see anything?
Claire Maskelyne: Like what?
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes the clearity of emptyness, other times it makes room for new thoughts to rush right in and fill the newly created space
stevenaia Michinaga: (for me)
Pema Pera: I think we each have different approaches, Naturespaw; in my case I'm not so much trying to clear my mind, when I do some form of practice, but rather watch my mind and let it settle by itself
Claire Maskelyne: I find it very difficult to meditate.
Eliza Madrigal: for a while I did try to 'put an end to thoughts' in a kind of deliberate way... but the guidance 'greet everything with inclusive awareness' was relaxing
Naturespaw Bestijl: What do you find difficult with meditating, Claire?
Naturespaw Bestijl: Rhi!
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Steve. poop!
Rhiannon Dragoone: oooo
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Rhi
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Rhiannon
Pema Pera: hi Rhi
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Eliza
oO0Oo Resident: rHI :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: ty 0000
stevenaia Michinaga: Meditation is like learning to walk, it takes time and practive (and patience with yourself)
Rhiannon Dragoone: I'm on my phone, cooking
stevenaia Michinaga: *practice
stevenaia Michinaga: I heard you can cook with the power of a cell phone rhi, it jsut takes a while
Pema Pera: :-)
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hehe
Rhiannon Dragoone: LOL
Pema Pera: a watched pot never boils, so turning to the phone may help!
Claire Maskelyne: What I find difficult is even keeping my mind still.
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite
stevenaia Michinaga: breathing helps, Claire
Eliza Madrigal smiles as the circle fills
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Aph
Pema Pera: perhaps it is not necessary to keep it still, Claire; you could try to just watch the lack of stillness
Pema Pera: hi Aph!
Rhiannon Dragoone: I think most people Don't realize that meditation is a firm if trance, and you can get inti a trance with the Right eye movement
Pema Pera: it may be hard at first . . .
Aphrodite Macbain: Intereasting-
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Aph
Naturespaw Bestijl: Some say even reading a book is a form of trance..
Aphrodite Macbain wonders how one watches the lack of something
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi pema
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: re reading a book in a meditative way
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Claire
Claire Maskelyne: Hello. :)
Claire Maskelyne: The right eye movements?
Pema Pera: if you try to get still, often you get agitated, so if you watch agitation, chances are you get more still :-)
Rhiannon Dragoone: yes. if you di hakulau, toy automatically Hi inti a trance
Eliza Madrigal: you'll could be 'still' agitated
Aphrodite Macbain: I get agitated when others are agitated-it's catching
Eliza Madrigal: *you
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Pema Pera: :-)
Naturespaw Bestijl: di hakulau, rhi?
Aphrodite Macbain figets with herheadphones
Rhiannon Dragoone: nature, yes.
Aphrodite Macbain: what are you reading Rhi?
Pema Pera: hi Santo!
Naturespaw Bestijl: Could you explain plase, Rhi?
Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya San
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hey Santo!
Santoshima Resident: hi Pema! hello Everyone
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Santo
--BELL--
Claire Maskelyne: Wow, a lot of people here tonight.
Rhiannon Dragoone: and hakulau dissociates You, so no more agitation
Pema Pera: (just a small point: when the pond becomes fuzzy, and the bell rings, and the green text appears in the "local chat" log, we all pause for 90 seconds.)
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Santos
Claire Maskelyne: What's hakualu?
Santoshima Resident: { shhh }
Aphrodite Macbain: shh
Rhiannon Dragoone: well, let me See If u give a drill
Rhiannon Dragoone: focus on a spirit across the riim
Aphrodite Macbain removes one of Rhi's shoes
Santoshima Resident: :)
Pema Pera suspects Rhi to be in a trance :-)
Aphrodite Macbain return sit
Rhiannon Dragoone: Then without moving tour eyes, extend tour perception pereoherally
Rhiannon Dragoone: Then move UT back behind You.
stevenaia Michinaga: Rhi is onher phone, does not see fountain or hear bells
Santoshima Resident: hmmm
Rhiannon Dragoone: your awareness is suddenly everywhere And tiu are dissociated
stevenaia Michinaga: hi San
Pema Pera worries about pots and pans overflowing . . .
Santoshima Resident: hey stevenaia
Rhiannon Dragoone: gtg
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Santo
Naturespaw Bestijl: Enjoy your meal Rhi
Santoshima Resident: hey Sam
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Rhi
oO0Oo Resident: Bye Rhi
Santoshima Resident: byebye rhi
Claire Maskelyne: Goodbye, Rhi. :)
Eliza Madrigal: think you reminded her of her cooking, Pema :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I can see very small scrambled eggs being cooked on her cell hone
stevenaia Michinaga: *phone
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Pema Pera: perhaps something did boil after all :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bertram
Eliza Madrigal remembers seeing a show about how to cook fish in a dishwasher...
Santoshima Resident: :)***
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bert :)
Bertram Jacobus: hi everybody
Pema Pera: Nature, would you like to say more about "clearing your mind"?
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hey Bert
Aphrodite Macbain: easy to wash up afterwards I guess
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Naturespaw Bestijl: Lol, how did the fish turn out, Eliza?
oO0Oo Resident: Bert :)
Pema Pera: clean?
Eliza Madrigal: sadly I wasn't silly enough to try...
Aphrodite Macbain: poached
Santoshima Resident: laughing
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes nature, what did you mean?
Naturespaw Bestijl: Well.. without getting too confusing, I was in a discussion group and we were talking about the whole idea of nothing..
Pema Pera: :-)
Naturespaw Bestijl: So someone brought up the idea that even when someone clears their mind..
Naturespaw Bestijl: the fact that we have to think about thinking about nothing
Naturespaw Bestijl: means we're thinking and not truly "empty"
Pema Pera: a very interesting topic!
Claire Maskelyne: Yes, I worry about that, too.
Aphrodite Macbain: nature abhors a vacuum
Eliza Madrigal waves to observerm
Pema Pera: but there are other ways to look at it -- like when you are dreaming and you know you are dreaming, then you still see objects but you also realize that they are "empty"
Naturespaw Bestijl: Ah.. that depends
Pema Pera: so that "empty" doesn't mean nothing to see
Naturespaw Bestijl: you familiar with lucid dreaming?
Naturespaw Bestijl: In which case the dreamer is more than a mere observer
Pema Pera: or you can take a movie, an easier example perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Korel :)
Pema Pera: yes, lucid dreaming is fun
Naturespaw Bestijl: hey Korel :)
Pema Pera: hi Korel !
Korel Laloix: Heya
Bertram Jacobus: hello korel ...
Santoshima Resident: hi korel
Santoshima Resident: bye bruce
Pema Pera: a movie image is rich as an image but empty as a (3-D) object
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hmm..
Pema Pera: it's not what it seems to be, is one aspect of "empty"
Pema Pera: another aspect is "open" -- open for many possibilities
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Korel
Aphrodite Macbain: Empty of what? Meaning? value? Significance?
Bertram Jacobus: empty of all i would guess
Naturespaw Bestijl: (where do you guys get green tea? :P)
Santoshima Resident: will pour you some, nature
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eos Amaterasu: (whispers bye...)
Pema Pera: the Buddhist idea of emptiness, as I understand it, is related to the way we tend to judge everything, making it into a specific something -- and the notion of emptiness can be a kind of antidote to the judging/freezing/fixating
oO0Oo Resident: shine on Eos :)
Santoshima Resident: 'nite, eos
Naturespaw Bestijl: tc eos
Eliza Madrigal: Night Eos :)
Bertram Jacobus: i read so often, buddhist emptyness would mean that there are no selfs ... no inherent beings ...
Aphrodite Macbain: Why does emptiness sound so terrifying to me?
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hmm in what sense, Aphrodite?
Aphrodite Macbain: I'd prefer the cup to be full rather than empty
Bertram Jacobus: because you´re clinging on your ego perhaps ?
Aphrodite Macbain: No idea. mptiness sounds lonely isolatd
Pema Pera: does "open" sound less terrifying, Aph?
Aphrodite Macbain: Open sounds freeing
Claire Maskelyne: Yes, that's what it means - so far as I've learned.
Pema Pera: then I suggest you use that translation, equally accurate I think :)
Aphrodite Macbain: openness sounds fine
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Claire Maskelyne: The dissolution of the fixed state, and the opening of infinite potential.
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Pema - I will :-)
Eliza Madrigal: open has the sense of spontaneity that empty lacks... as a word
Pema Pera: all barriers being empty too, means openness, no isolation
Aphrodite Macbain: Empty sounds void. Blank. Dead
stevenaia Michinaga: acceptance requires openness
--BELL--
Claire Maskelyne: Personally, I find confinement far scarier than emptiness.
Eliza Madrigal: yet open lacks a clarty empty seems to have... hmm
Pema Pera: hi Roger!
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hey Roger!
Claire Maskelyne: Yes, 'open' suggests a door, and 'empty' suggests there need be no door.
Claire Maskelyne: Pardon if I'm talking rubbish.
Santoshima Resident: cultural associations for the word "emptiness", infuences entirely ~
Bertram Jacobus: and individual associations do that as well very much -
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Roger :)
Pema Pera: any word is just a word . . . . so it depends what we do with it, what we are trying to point to in terms of personal experiences
Santoshima Resident: meaning to be within individuals, bertram
Santoshima Resident: ye
Santoshima Resident: s
Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps there is an assumption that if we become empty, something better comes in to fill that space.
Bertram Jacobus smiles shy
Pema Pera: as a concrete example, taking a 9 second break can produce an openness, which can feel as a void or as a liberation, or as many other things!
Aphrodite Macbain: context context
Pema Pera: how do you experience the 9-sec breaks, Aph, if I may ask?
Bertram Jacobus: yess : so many influences, so many factors !
Aphrodite Macbain: Differently each time Pema
Pema Pera: yes, that's my experience too
Aphrodite Macbain: It depends on my state of mind
Pema Pera: does it sometimes feel "open" or "empty" or how would you describe it?
Aphrodite Macbain: I find them welcome relief from the chatter but also an interruption when I am trying to follow a train of thought
Pema Pera: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: I find them an opening, a doorway or threshhold for a new way of thinking
Aphrodite Macbain: sometimes
Pema Pera: and an interesting version, a bit difficult at first, is to continue the train of thought, but in a more open way, during the break -- does that make sense?
Aphrodite Macbain: not sure
Aphrodite Macbain: not sure what a more open way means
Pema Pera: rather than trying to stop the train, letting it run without helping it along?
Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm
Pema Pera: instead of being caught up in the thoughts, watching them?
Aphrodite Macbain: that's what it always does
Pema Pera: :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: pull away and separate myself? watching objectively?
Pema Pera: perhaps it can feel that way, at first, but it doesn't have to
Aphrodite Macbain: for me it is a stae of not being caught up EMOTIONALLY in the train of thought
Aphrodite Macbain: not needing to feel right or fear of being wrong
Pema Pera: yes, that's a nice aspect too!
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Pema Pera: how do others experience the 9 sec breaks?
Eliza Madrigal: differently each time... and listens for others :)
Bertram Jacobus: may be often empty. but also often differently : busy or whatever. thoughts, emotions, sensations, feelings ... but always a break. and because of that : very nice
Pema Pera: :-)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Naturespaw Bestijl: Anyone find it hard sometimes to really drop everything for the break?
oO0Oo Resident: sure
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes indeed
Pema Pera: always, in my case . . . really dropping is still an ideal :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Pema Pera: and there are sooo many ways of dropping
Bertram Jacobus: i think, dropping in this way is more a happening then a doing and so i don´t find it hard
Aphrodite Macbain: if I could imagine what it felt like I might be able to do it
Pema Pera: some more subtle, others even more subtle . . .
Pema Pera: yes, Bert, real dropping is more an allowing or letting go
Aphrodite Macbain: For me it usually means stopping the chatter in my head
Bertram Jacobus: and it has to do a lot with practice, being used to it, coming into a kind of very nice routine ...
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
--BELL--
Bertram Jacobus: yes : also letting go, remembering, becoming aware ...
Eliza Madrigal thinks of Stim's 'dropping may be holding in a new way'
Pema Pera reluctantly dropping out :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :) Night Pema
stevenaia Michinaga: night Pema
Pema Pera: to get some sleep
Bertram Jacobus: bye pema ty for the group
oO0Oo Resident: Pema :)
Naturespaw Bestijl: Sleep well Pema
Eliza Madrigal: night blooming lotus
Pema Pera: great seeing you all again, thanks for the conversations!
oO0Oo Resident: (((Pema)))
Aphrodite Macbain: Take care Pema and thanks
Santoshima Resident: thanks, pema ~
Claire Maskelyne: I feel... voiceless right now.
Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza - what do you mean by Stim's 'dropping may be holding in a new way'
Eliza Madrigal: ah... something Stim said one day in a session which I loved...
Eliza Madrigal: it was a conversation about dropping
Eliza Madrigal: and at the time I was quite perplexed
Eliza Madrigal: 'trying' to drop
Eliza Madrigal: somehow this had the sense of dropping open
Eliza Madrigal: :) holding in a new/open way
Eliza Madrigal: relaxing
Aphrodite Macbain: I like it Eliza, dropping owpn
Aphrodite Macbain: open - expanding and allowing
Eliza Madrigal: amazing how a tiny phrase can work on one... nods...
Bertram Jacobus: i´ll leave as well now - ty everybody for this group ! *wave* ...
Aphrodite Macbain: helps if you have a little smile on your face!
Eliza Madrigal: Night Bert :)
Naturespaw Bestijl: Night Bert!
Eliza Madrigal: :)) smiles definitely help
Aphrodite Macbain waves at bert
Bertram Jacobus: ty ... :-))
Santoshima Resident: bye bertram, good to see you ~
oO0Oo Resident: Bert :)
Bertram Jacobus: all so kind ... leaves happily now (admitted) :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Eliza Madrigal: Another wonderful outline is something Pema's shared often... Tilopa's six words
Korel Laloix: wado
Eliza Madrigal waves Korel
oO0Oo Resident: I think the fruitional states of teachers like thich Nhat Hanh, as well as the background sense of the space of this pavilion on multiple returns, as sane and open in its very essence... is a good way to experience emptiness without fear
oO0Oo Resident: or to simply encounter whatever is up
oO0Oo Resident: ;;waves to Korel::
Korel Laloix smiles
Naturespaw Bestijl: Hmm that reminds me of a quote(can't remember who said it): Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes it's shape (a circle) and its openness make it safe and accessible
Eliza Madrigal considers encounters of emptiness
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Korel
Eliza Madrigal: nice observation, Aphrodite
oO0Oo Resident: it is this safety that allows us to open into our fundamental openness and see what stands in the path on that journey
Eliza Madrigal: Hello Chavo, I'll IM you about the group
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: just a note that our visitors are going to observe for now
Santoshima Resident: :) you have ~
Santoshima Resident: wrong box ... again
Eliza Madrigal: Night everyone... so sleepy :) thank you for a wonderful discussion tonight
Santoshima Resident: 'nite Eliza
Naturespaw Bestijl: Have agood night Eliza :)
oO0Oo Resident waves to Eliza.. Night!
Santoshima Resident: ret well
stevenaia Michinaga: night Eliza
Santoshima Resident: rest
Santoshima Resident: well
Eliza Madrigal: thank you very much :)
Eliza Madrigal: :::bows:::::
stevenaia Michinaga: I should be off as well, night ll hope to see you tomorrow
Santoshima Resident: bye stevenaia
Naturespaw Bestijl: Tc stevenaia
oO0Oo Resident: Best Stevenaia !
Aphrodite Macbain: Nite all. Time for me to move along.
Aphrodite Macbain: Good to spend time with you all.
Santoshima Resident: likewise, Aph, g'night
Naturespaw Bestijl: goodnight Aphrodite
oO0Oo Resident: night Aph
Santoshima Resident: bye, all ~
oO0Oo Resident: Bye santo
Naturespaw Bestijl: Thanks for a great discussion all :)
Santoshima Resident: bye observerm
oO0Oo Resident: TY Naturespaw!
Korel Laloix: Take care.
oO0Oo Resident: TC Korel :)
Claire Maskelyne: ...
--BELL--
oO0Oo Resident: para :)
Paradise Tennant: hiya O
Paradise Tennant: how are you
oO0Oo Resident smiles
oO0Oo Resident: what a pleasant surprise
Paradise Tennant: was it a good session :) sorry to have missed it
oO0Oo Resident: It was well attended and everyone who was here was a delight, and genuine things were said and felt, and well... you have not entirely missed it :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
oO0Oo Resident: :)
oO0Oo Resident: Are you in Paris still if I may ask?
Paradise Tennant: no back home now ..but still it seems on european time .. waking before dawn and falling asleep before 10 pm
Paradise Tennant: always takes a while to adjust back
oO0Oo Resident: I trust you had a nice trip... some good things to eat perhaps?
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: it was lovely visiting with friends who I haven ot seen in many years .. it was kind of spur of the moment ..have not taken any holidays .. this year
Paradise Tennant: so picked up and went .. off with friends who were stopping over in paris for 4 days and then stayed and had another friend take the train in from bussieres and we toured around ..
oO0Oo Resident: that kind of spontaneity can be a real wonderful context for things, in comparison to over planning for instance
Paradise Tennant: it comes and goes quickly yes much prefer .. spur of the moment travel reading up on where I am going on the plane
Paradise Tennant: was nice this trip was visiting someone who has lived in paris for 30 years she spent 3 days touring us around ..
Paradise Tennant: lots to see there
oO0Oo Resident: :))) highlights?
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: would be doing village dances in bussieres with 19 farm women ...little little village outside of djion in a church built in the 15th century
Paradise Tennant: was so much fun .. but like stepping into the past .. tracing the steps of many generations
Paradise Tennant: sorry bell
oO0Oo Resident: ::laughing:: what an image... sounds like wonderful on many levels... women's space.. movement, tradition, magic, earthy....
Paradise Tennant: all of the above add in a lots of smiles and my broken french and you have the picture
Paradise Tennant: nice to step out of your life for a bit
Paradise Tennant: always find it intersting
oO0Oo Resident: oh smiling was a feature? surprise surprise ::laughs::
Paradise Tennant: hiya san nice to see you
oO0Oo Resident: hi san
Paradise Tennant: was just telling O about my trip
Paradise Tennant: the highlights
Santoshima Resident: hi Paradice, it has been a while :)
Santoshima Resident: rehi Sam
Santoshima Resident: paradise
Paradise Tennant: yes have been travelling .. and then returned home time lagged :)
Paradise Tennant: how have you been :)
Santoshima Resident: ah, you travelled to paris, right
Santoshima Resident: am well
Santoshima Resident: how are you?
oO0Oo Resident: agreed paradise... to step outside... travel gives such a tangeable opportunity to be in a larger flow
Paradise Tennant: very well thanks :) yes was in paris a week and then in bussieres for 3 days ;) connecting with old friends I have not seen in long time was very lovely
Santoshima Resident: how nice
Paradise Tennant: it was nice .. seeing people you care about - well what can be better :)
oO0Oo Resident smiles
Paradise Tennant: nice to have some time to read too picked up an interesting book by chance on a topic I have never thought about .. Secret in the Fields by Freddy Silva
Paradise Tennant: about crop circles they came up in conversation while I was away because I was in a farming community where they have shown up
Paradise Tennant: the pictures are exquisite .. such beatiful mysterious symmetry I like them a lot because they are mathematical too :)
oO0Oo Resident: link at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Fields...8737303&sr=8-1
Santoshima Resident: ty
oO0Oo Resident: mathematical in what way Para?
Paradise Tennant: they geometry .they express .. relatiohnships .. order to chaos .. all manner of numeric relationships
Paradise Tennant: really intriguing
Paradise Tennant: worth reading or at least looking at the pictures on the web .. the genuine ones are breath taking
oO0Oo Resident: a dance between the mystical and the rational?
Paradise Tennant: it seems there is mystical math :)
Paradise Tennant: love math :)
Santoshima Resident: the photo on the cover is beautiful
Santoshima Resident: and the related books
Santoshima Resident: fractal-like
Paradise Tennant: yes in the real ones the plants continue to grow ..to flower to ripen and often though the grain is flattened any flowers are left untouched
Paradise Tennant: yes there is one that is mandelbrot's fractal the relationship between order and chaos
oO0Oo Resident: http://ufopress.files.wordpress.com/...op-circles.jpg
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Paradise Tennant: the symmetry is expressed so precisely it boggles
Paradise Tennant: they are electrical magnetic residues left over
oO0Oo Resident: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MNRqhbcFWZ...op+circles.jpg
Paradise Tennant: the man made ones are imprecise .. the plants are destroyed and no magnetic residues
oO0Oo Resident: feels intuitively like a benevolent invisible dragon at work
Paradise Tennant: where I was staying in france it was a big topic
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: sorry bell
Santoshima Resident: s'ok
Paradise Tennant: interesting little village there are people who are born there .. live there die there without ever leaving except to go to a slightly larger village about 20 km away maybe 2 or 3 times a year
Paradise Tennant: living a very simple life
oO0Oo Resident: Imagine the dances that evolve in such a context are very subtle and powerful
oO0Oo Resident: human and earth loving
Paradise Tennant: yes thursday nights is a big night .. the ladies all get to gether in a room off the church to .. exercise ..which some nights is dancing ..
Paradise Tennant: very fun ..
Santoshima Resident: :)
Santoshima Resident: wonderful
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Paradise Tennant: it was ! I only know one woman in the room .. so was a stranger but felt .. embraced :)
Paradise Tennant: plus just fun to dance
Paradise Tennant: but in a way felt like a part of a pattern that plays out generation after generation ..
Paradise Tennant: same step same floor same music just different feet
Paradise Tennant: opps one need to check on the dog's soup
Santoshima Resident: lucky to be able to travel to such a place, and to be included
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: very much so
oO0Oo Resident: feeling that direct link to tradition is such an amzing thing... feeling oneself in those footfalls, at palces where such has gone on for a long time. Rich and true. Contextual. One wonders about the place in a larger context and how it connects with the broader spheres.
Paradise Tennant: felt .. graced by hosipitality .. so open ..
oO0Oo Resident: *places
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Paradise Tennant: lol sorry for the types
Paradise Tennant: typos
oO0Oo Resident: grace meets grace
Santoshima Resident: :)
oO0Oo Resident: I need to go, but what a lovely surprise to see you Paradise, and nice that Santo could return. The pavilion is a place of magic... its expansions and contractions.... containing all comings and goings. Hope there will be pics Para :)
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: nice to see you O namaste :)
oO0Oo Resident: Namaste :0 Bye
Paradise Tennant: Thanks San ..just opening now :)
Santoshima Resident: bye Sam, sweet dreams
Paradise Tennant: how have you been san
Santoshima Resident: ok, thanks
Santoshima Resident: busy here
Santoshima Resident: avoiding other things
Santoshima Resident: are you recovered from jet lag?
Paradise Tennant: not really but trying :) good to be busy :)
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Santoshima Resident: i hope that i didn't interrupt your time with 0
Paradise Tennant: of course not :) think O was just winding down from the session ..i was coming in late .. was it a good session
Santoshima Resident: it was
Paradise Tennant: smiles .. funny how some sessions are just being together others .. small talk .. others change how you think :)
Santoshima Resident: yes it's so true
Santoshima Resident: it's timing
Santoshima Resident: sometimes the time is right for shift
Santoshima Resident: did you receive 1 or 2 photos from me?
Paradise Tennant: 2 ..thank you very much
Santoshima Resident: yw
Paradise Tennant: what else have you been doing in sl san ..have you explored the music at all ?
Santoshima Resident: i've been building a "house" for fc and myself
Santoshima Resident: and garden
Paradise Tennant: nice !
Santoshima Resident: haven't really checked out any music here
Santoshima Resident: just noticing some listings, but no time yet
Paradise Tennant: love sl gardening so satisfyingly quick and no sore back or wrecked hands
Santoshima Resident: you are welcome to see, it's near Storm's tibetan shrine
Santoshima Resident: yes, no dirt under the nails
Paradise Tennant: ok shall we walk in your garden ?
Santoshima Resident: sure, is now a good time for you?
Paradise Tennant: sure
Santoshima Resident: ok
Paradise Tennant: will let you tp me ?
Santoshima Resident: ok, but it's not far to walk
Santoshima Resident: far
Santoshima Resident: not
Santoshima Resident: organizing my screen
Paradise Tennant: ok then will just follow :)
Santoshima Resident: ok