2011.10.11 13:00 – Tabling tables, playing and Einstein

The Guardian for this meeting was Aphrodite MacBain

Aphrodite Macbain: How are you today Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Aph!
Korel Laloix: Heya
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Korel
Korel Laloix: brb
Bruce Mowbray: MUCH better -- just having come from the i Ching session with Pila, Samuo, Mick, Yaku, and Eliza.
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Korel!
Aphrodite Macbain: ah. Something I still haven't explored
Bruce Mowbray looks at Korel in rearview mirror.
Aphrodite Macbain: she said BRB
Korel Laloix: Keeping an eye on you.
Korel Laloix: brb again
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Aphrodite Macbain: I just finished Tai Chi  in RL= so nice
Bruce Mowbray: ahhh. Balancing out the ol' yin and yang?
Aphrodite Macbain: along with the thigh muscles
Aphrodite Macbain: How are you Korel. Taking a break from work?
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, fc!
Aphrodite Macbain: Hey Fc
FcSeeker Resident: hi All
FcSeeker Resident: Bruce Aph Korel
Aphrodite Macbain: How's the new house doing Fc?
FcSeeker Resident: it's finished
Aphrodite Macbain: It looks very beautiful
Aphrodite Macbain: You should have a house warming party!
FcSeeker Resident: very beautiful yes
FcSeeker Resident: <3<3<3
Aphrodite Macbain: a lot of fine work
Aphrodite Macbain: Was it fun?
FcSeeker Resident: hi Susan
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Susan.
Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Susan
iwandertoo Resident: heya
FcSeeker Resident: I sadly had too little time to see san's building, but as far as I've understood, she had much fun
FcSeeker Resident: but the time I had, it was wonderful to see her to build
Aphrodite Macbain: It's really lovely- it belongs to Fc as well
FcSeeker Resident: it is my home also yes, but all beauty there is from san
Aphrodite Macbain: She has been a book designer and is very thoughtful in her arrangements
FcSeeker Resident: SL still has own ways, but she is brilliant with her brain to learn
Aphrodite Macbain: she's she learns quickly
Aphrodite Macbain: I cant even make a table
Aphrodite Macbain: or don’t have the patience to...
FcSeeker Resident: maybe it is because you have not interest to make it...
Aphrodite Macbain: No I have but I don’t have the patience to get to where I want to go
FcSeeker Resident: ah
Aphrodite Macbain: it takes me ages
FcSeeker Resident: so you cannot make such table that you would like to

A table appears

Aphrodite Macbain: Who made that table and how did you do it?
FcSeeker Resident: that is completely different thing that 'just a table'
Aphrodite Macbain: can you make it smaller?
Bruce Mowbray: I dragged it from my inventory.
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) is it editable?
FcSeeker Resident: did you make it Bruce ?
Bruce Mowbray: yes, it is editable -- and it comes as standard stuff from the Lindens. . .
Aphrodite Macbain: no, I can’t make it smaller
Bruce Mowbray: I can edit it.
Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm. I clicked “stretch” but nothing happened
Aphrodite Macbain: hmm can you make it smaller? A lot smaller?
Bruce Mowbray: You have to be the one who builds it -- then you can edit it.
Bruce Mowbray: I will try to give you a copy. . .
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, if I build it I can edit it. But I can’t build it!
Bruce Mowbray: sry, not able to give it to you. . . don't know why.
FcSeeker Resident: not to trans ?
Aphrodite Macbain: I know- it's non transferable
Bruce Mowbray: no, it says it is transferable. . .

A table is sold

Bruce Mowbray: OK. How about you buy it for 0 L?
Bruce Mowbray: just a sec.
Bruce Mowbray: OK. I just put a price tag on it. . . see if you can buy it for 0 lindens.
Aphrodite Macbain: K
Aphrodite Macbain: where is it?
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh I see it
Bruce Mowbray: i see it to your right. . .
Bruce Mowbray: right-click and then "buy"
FcSeeker Resident: Hello san
Santoshima Resident: hello Fc
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi San
Santoshima Resident: hi everyone
Santoshima Resident: what's up with the table?
Santoshima Resident: oops. shh
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm trying to make one but without success
Santoshima Resident: { shhh }
Santoshima Resident: ahh, did you make this, Aph?
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, San!

Aph buys the table and makes it smaller. Bruce makes another table

Bruce Mowbray: Yayyyy!
Bruce Mowbray: You did it!!!
FcSeeker Resident: there's nice textures in the library for different table wood
Santoshima Resident: this appears to be successful as a "table"
Bruce Mowbray: Can you make it bigger?
Aphrodite Macbain: no want to make it smaller
Aphrodite Macbain: I change the Size but nothing happens

FcSeeker Resident: hi Zon
Santoshima Resident: can it be modified?
Zon Kwan: heyyy
Aphrodite Macbain: yayy

Santoshima Resident: hi zon kwan :)
Santoshima Resident: hey Arisia!
Arisia Vita: greetings to one and all
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Zon Arisia
Zon Kwan: arisia

Aphrodite Macbain: I'll play with it later :-) Thanks Bruce
Santoshima Resident: bye susan
Aphrodite Macbain: Oops she left
Santoshima Resident: vanished into thin air
Aphrodite Macbain: Her train must have arrived at the station
Santoshima Resident: hey Be, welcome
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Be
Aphrodite Macbain: Be, have you been here before?
Be Ewing: All ... thank you and greetings:)
Bruce Mowbray: me too. Hey, Arisia!
Be Ewing: at Kira yes
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Be!
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Zon!
Be Ewing: can't quite recall being at this group ... but then again I may have:)
Aphrodite Macbain: You know are conversations are recorded here and posted on a wiki Be?
Santoshima Resident: does anyone mind if i take some photos
Santoshima Resident: i know that the camera makes noise
Aphrodite Macbain: what will you do with them San. Will we be famous?
Be Ewing: Aphrodite -- thanks for advisement -- I just assume that of all my conversations
Santoshima Resident: art, Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: ah art eh?
Santoshima Resident: believe me, my friends are not interested
Aphrodite Macbain: tell me about it. MY friends are a little worried about me
Be Ewing: Santo -- you'd be amazed at what some friends are interested in :)
Aphrodite Macbain: whatcha doing Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: My friends have always been worried about me . . .
Santoshima Resident: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Who knows ? - - Playing with my table, i guess.
Santoshima Resident: laughing
Aphrodite Macbain: and laughing
Aphrodite Macbain: OMG it's not a table it's an air raid shelter
Bruce Mowbray: perhaps I should "table' this building for now.
Be Ewing: also good for tornadoes
Aphrodite Macbain: heheh
Bruce Mowbray: (That was a metaphor, btw.)
Be Ewing: and earthquakes too
Aphrodite Macbain: we are rolling in metaphors
Be Ewing: many, many meanings to all words
Be Ewing: and phrases
Aphrodite Macbain: words words words
Be Ewing: :)
Be Ewing: so are we writing a script here?
Bruce Mowbray: metaphors are the WD-40 of language. (That’s a spray lubricant -- like oil)
Arisia Vita: Words are the clothes meaning wears to go out in public, and are as subject to fashion.
FcSeeker Resident: that you can mod however
Bruce Mowbray: Oh -- Lovely, Ari!!!
Arisia Vita: ty
Be Ewing: well so far this script may make interesting play
FcSeeker Resident: <3<3<3
Aphrodite Macbain: Fc what did you give me?
Bruce Mowbray: Play as Script.
FcSeeker Resident: the table
FcSeeker Resident: sorry forgot to name it; it's only 'object'
Bruce Mowbray: I thought we'd tabled the table.
Zon Kwan: cool arisia..must remember that
FcSeeker Resident: but I saw you to 'wear' it
FcSeeker Resident: but need to rezz
Be Ewing: well Bruce -- many still see many other meanings for table than expressed so far in this script?
Be Ewing: so some may find it hard to table table right now
Be Ewing: We are on air in air?
Bruce Mowbray recalls multiplication tables.
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes we are on air. Perhaps I should take a pic of this so readers can make sense of what's happening
Aphrodite Macbain: Nothing like a plaid table
Aphrodite Macbain: Any idea how to make the legs thinner?
Bruce Mowbray: a wee Scottish table from the Highlands.
Arisia Vita: diet
Be Ewing: And so far no ones seems to be tabling the conversation either
Aphrodite Macbain: San, did you create some of your own furniture or did you buy it?
FcSeeker Resident: you need to unlink them, then you can 'stretch' them to be thinner
Aphrodite Macbain: Unlink them. Hmmm
Be Ewing: Somehow I kind of have a feeling I may be in Wonderland
FcSeeker Resident: unlink
Aphrodite Macbain: wonders how and feels we should get back to discussing something serous. Like “creative building”
FcSeeker Resident: maybe you are Be <3<3<3
Bruce Mowbray: You got that right, Be!
Be Ewing: This is just a stream of consciousness go-with-flow conversation?
Zon Kwan: runs, waves
Aphrodite Macbain: sometimes it is when the GoCs are doing a really bad job - like me
Be Ewing: :)
Be Ewing: I just play
Aphrodite Macbain: Sometimes it is a very thoughtful, theme-based conversation
Be Ewing: sometimes those are very dull :)
Santoshima Resident: this is our weekly online radio show "prims with Aph"
Be Ewing: ah
Aphrodite Macbain: Hmm and sometimes they are fantastic and make good reading later
Be Ewing: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: lol San
Be Ewing: so topic today is?
Be Ewing: if ever we are on topic:)
Aphrodite Macbain: Play is very healthy I guess and allows us to experiment without fear of blowing it
Be Ewing: ah

Play and its importance

Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps we can talk about the importance of play
Be Ewing: Play is how I learn, grow and have fun
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, it is a good way of learning
Aphrodite Macbain: hands-on play
Be Ewing: Play is critical need for all (or most?) human beings
Santoshima Resident: wb susan ~
Bruce Mowbray: Play is . . . how I get into trouble with folks who do not know how to play.
Santoshima Resident: susan
Aphrodite Macbain: wb susan
Be Ewing: Play is Fun :)
Bruce Mowbray: wb Susan!
FcSeeker Resident: to panda's also
Santoshima Resident: i turned my head to the camera for a moment, and zon has been replaced by a table
Be Ewing: that is the difference between work (drudgery) and play
Be Ewing: you can have a lot of fun while you are working though -- that is when work is play :)
Aphrodite Macbain: did zon leave in disgust?
Santoshima Resident: well, he left
Aphrodite Macbain: I enjoy being with playful people provided there is some centre of seriousness
iwandertoo Resident: ponders
Bruce Mowbray ponders "centre of seriousness."
Santoshima Resident: bye zon, airmail photo on its way to you
Bruce Mowbray: snap.
iwandertoo Resident: haha
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: brb
Be Ewing: ab
Be Ewing: Any rules here?
Santoshima Resident: yes, say please and thank you
Bruce Mowbray: be nice. That’s about it.
Be Ewing: got it
Be Ewing: Please and thank you.
Be Ewing: Have said words
Bruce Mowbray: Give that poor woman a notecard - - -
Santoshima Resident: as appropriate and as inspired to do so
Be Ewing: and I am very nice:)
Arisia Vita: I can vouch for that
Aphrodite Macbain: a serious centre such as play as being. .
Aphrodite Macbain: How do we play with the idea of being?
Be Ewing: actually some perceive me as male though I am in female form
Aphrodite Macbain: How are you perceived - what is used to perceive you?
Be Ewing: Aphrodite -- we just play
Bruce Mowbray: We play that Being is playing with US. . .
Be Ewing: Others perceive me
Aphrodite Macbain: pray or play?
Bruce Mowbray: Or, we play that We are Being -- and that we are playing AS being.
Be Ewing: Based on their feedback I play and learn many things here
Bruce Mowbray: Sometimes we start at the end.
Aphrodite Macbain: Playing with is-ness
Be Ewing: and sometimes at beginning, center and also randomly nowhere at all
Aphrodite Macbain: can mean looking at it upside down at inside out
Be Ewing: Play is very now
Be Ewing: For example, a child has no sense of time when playing
Be Ewing: Either do adults (some may never admit this though)
Bruce Mowbray: The important thing is to get your feet wet. Bruce wades into the fountain
Aphrodite Macbain smiles at Bruce and hands him a towel

Be Ewing: For example, one thing most people may not know, Einstein babysat (played) with children to observe their unbiased perceptions of the world
Be Ewing: Before "adults" taught them what they should perceive
Aphrodite Macbain: Hmm. Wonder how biased his observations were
Be Ewing: Aphrodite -- don't know answer to that question
Aphrodite Macbain: We can learn a lot from observing how kids learn
Be Ewing: true
Aphrodite Macbain: I am just aware that we all come with biases
Aphrodite Macbain: our own biases
Be Ewing: hmmm
Be Ewing: not sure about that one at beginning of life here as a human being
Aphrodite Macbain: What do you think Arisia?
Bruce Mowbray: Einstein also said that God did not play dice. . . . or something like that. God playing with loaded dice.
Bruce Mowbray listens for Arisia.
Arisia Vita: when I think, I am quiet....
Aphrodite Macbain: maybe Einstein was referring to gravity
Bruce Mowbray: I am quiet, therefore i think.
Aphrodite Macbain: gravity loaded the dice
Bruce Mowbray: ;)
Bruce Mowbray: surely gravity had some part of the dice thingie.
Be Ewing: Arisia may be quiet though just because he may be busy with IMs "_
Be Ewing: * :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I have weight therefore I am.
Bruce Mowbray: yes, Arisia is a popular fellow. . . and for good reason.
Arisia Vita: The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe is as good as dead; his eyes are closed... - Albert Einstein
Be Ewing: well I have experienced no weight and I am even in that
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, finding the mystery again and again. . .
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Arisia. Well worth waiting for. :-)
FcSeeker Resident: wb Korel
Bruce Mowbray: ty, Ari!

Shounding Shutters

Aphrodite Macbain: wb Korel
Korel Laloix: IN and out today.
Bruce Mowbray: Tell us before you take another photo so we can smile. . . . "CHEEEEZ!"
Aphrodite Macbain: Can you tell I'm taking pix?
Aphrodite Macbain: My flash goes off or you hear it?
Bruce Mowbray: there is a shuttering shound, Aph.
Bruce Mowbray: sound.
Aphrodite Macbain: I like shound
Aphrodite Macbain: sounds like a dog with a lisp
Bruce Mowbray: shound makes be freeling.
Be Ewing: Aph -- you should be able to silence the shutter -- at least in my viewer one can do that
Aphrodite Macbain: How?
Be Ewing: good question
Aphrodite Macbain: Preferences, audio?
Be Ewing: it has been a while since I did it
Aphrodite Macbain: kk  Had no idea. I can't hear it myself
Be Ewing: in preferences somewhere or in advanced
Aphrodite Macbain: Quiet snapshots to disc...?
Santoshima Resident: hmm, guess i should pay attention
Santoshima Resident: all ears
Be Ewing: people who have been here many years often don't realize that people can take pictures without others hearing sound
Aphrodite Macbain: OK I ticked it. Now see if you can hear me
Aphrodite Macbain: Hear anything?
Santoshima Resident: listening listening ...
Be Ewing: bird chirp
Be Ewing: ambient sound
Be Ewing: take another picture
Aphrodite Macbain: ok it worked. Go to advanced Menu
Aphrodite Macbain: and tick quiet snapshot to disk
Be Ewing: that's it :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Be
Be Ewing: you are most welcome :) ... now you can be total stealth spy :)
Be Ewing: also pics of text chat can be included
Be Ewing: including IMs
Be Ewing: so always just assume you are talking to the world -- actually the Universe(s)
Be Ewing: Arisia should now be quaking in his boots/shoes if he has any on :)
Be Ewing: Arisia -- for the record -- I have never taken any pictures of IM chat for anyone
Be Ewing: I'm just saying that so people are aware of it
Arisia Vita: whew...
Aphrodite Macbain: we keep 90 seconds of silence every 15 minutes Be
Be Ewing: one reason Torley has no friends
Santoshima Resident: nor have I, aph
Aphrodite Macbain: nor have you what San?
Santoshima Resident: what Be wrote
Aphrodite Macbain: Who is Torley and what are you saying Be?
Santoshima Resident: photo'd an IM
Santoshima Resident: or did i misunderstand
Aphrodite Macbain: ?? Photo text?
Be Ewing: ab
Santoshima Resident: ab?
Santoshima Resident: acronym meaning?
Aphrodite Macbain: ab?
Aphrodite Macbain: absolutely?
Santoshima Resident: ah
Aphrodite Macbain: abysmal?
Aphrodite Macbain: ablutions?
Santoshima Resident: not, like Abs
Santoshima Resident: abs of steel
Be Ewing: meaning Torley? (sp) person who does many tutorial videos for Linden lab
Aphrodite Macbain giggles and thinks it's time to go
Aphrodite Macbain: oh
Be Ewing: he does not (at least a few years ago) want to take the chance of some conversation someone might think is private actually becomes public
Aphrodite Macbain:  Yikes. Time for lunch. Gotta go
Santoshima Resident: bye Aph
Arisia Vita: I too must run for a bit
FcSeeker Resident: bye
Arisia Vita: it was great being close to you all
Be Ewing: All -- take care :)
FcSeeker Resident: waves
Santoshima Resident: bye Arisia, take cae
Be Ewing: Miles of smiles to All:)
Santoshima Resident: care
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!

Listing off to San and Fc’s house

Santoshima Resident: uhmm, Korel and Bruce, Fc and i have a new home near here
Santoshima Resident: would you like to come and see?
Santoshima Resident: now, or anytime ~
Korel Laloix: Sure.
Santoshima Resident: shall we go?
Santoshima Resident: we can walk, or we can tp you
Korel Laloix: TP us?
Santoshima Resident: it's not far
Santoshima Resident: ok, tp it is
Bruce Mowbray: I also need to go. May all be happy and safe!
FcSeeker Resident: cannot tp because it's so near
FcSeeker Resident: waves to Bruce
Santoshima Resident: bye bruce
Santoshima Resident: will you walk korel?
Santoshima Resident: follow my listing gait
Santoshima Resident: if you click on the ground you can choose "go here" and move forward in parts on autopilot
Santoshima Resident: weird, huh?
Santoshima Resident: coming?
Santoshima Resident: it's the building just behind you
Korel Laloix: Sorry, in and out today.
Korel Laloix: OK.