2011.10.30 19:00 - Tracking, Gathering and Mulling

The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

Paradise Tennant: hiya luci :)) gtsy
Paradise Tennant: lol did that exact same sit coming in tonite :) cushions must be sleepy
Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya cal :)
Paradise Tennant: how are you :)
Lucinda Lavender: Luci says hi and please excuse...must put a few dishes in the dishwasher for the moment as well
Paradise Tennant: okies .. going to make a pot of tea ;)
Lucinda Lavender: am right here just doing two things
Paradise Tennant: ahh ok
Calvino Rabeni: :) same here
Paradise Tennant: smiles cal how is mitzi doing .. I miss her.. so sparky :)
Calvino Rabeni: well I'm sure
Calvino Rabeni: feisty and outspoken
Calvino Rabeni: her dad was a maverick philosopher
Paradise Tennant: hiya boxy gtsy !
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Alfred Kelberry: luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: hi boxy
Lucinda Lavender: we made more cider today and there are some dishes to do from lunch...
Calvino Rabeni: what's up Boxy?
Lucinda Lavender: 6 gallons
Paradise Tennant: hmm homemade cider :)
Alfred Kelberry: um, just hanging out
Alfred Kelberry: it's nice to see our paris lady para :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles at boxy and scratches his ears :)
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Lucinda Lavender: back now
Calvino Rabeni: paris?
Lucinda Lavender: How are you Cal?
Paradise Tennant: did a really quick trip to paris .. to see some old friends ..last minute but fun :)
Lucinda Lavender: nice...
Calvino Rabeni: I spent some time tracking city bears
Lucinda Lavender: !!
Calvino Rabeni: they are chowing down for the winter
Lucinda Lavender: does that mean bears in the city?
Calvino Rabeni: yes
Lucinda Lavender: wow
Paradise Tennant: where are you cal htat it has city bears ?
Calvino Rabeni: Ashland Oregon
Lucinda Lavender: did you see them?
Calvino Rabeni: I wonder where they hibernate.  There are a few old mine tunnels nearby.
Alfred Kelberry: para, i think last minute is most rewarding :)
Paradise Tennant: yes have not had a holiday yet this year and been working lots of hours ..
Paradise Tennant: so it was good timing spent a week in paris and 2 two days in bussieres a little little farming villate
Alfred Kelberry: aww, busy bee
Lucinda Lavender: did you eat special things?
Paradise Tennant: where my friend's husband is a country doctor he gets up a 2 am and does house calls her kitchen is the villlage cafe ..there are no stores only a church and lots of cows
Lucinda Lavender: wow! great
Paradise Tennant: smiles yes we did
Calvino Rabeni: nice world
Alfred Kelberry: oh my
Alfred Kelberry: so cute
Alfred Kelberry: para, where are the pics?! :)
Alfred Kelberry: pics of cows please! :)
Paradise Tennant: yes .. interesting world . the ladies of hte village get together thursday nites to dance exercise ..we did old country dances on an old stone floor that has had the steps beaten in over generations :)
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Paradise Tennant: smiles ooo still in my blackberry have not downloaded them will try to post a few ..
Alfred Kelberry: aww, that is so nicely quaint, para!
Lucinda Lavender: would love to see...but no pressure
Paradise Tennant: happy happy cows there
Alfred Kelberry: yes, no pressure
Paradise Tennant: great cheese
Lucinda Lavender: cal did you see the bears?
Alfred Kelberry: *thinks grr where are the pics already&!*
Calvino Rabeni: no only their tracks
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Lucinda Lavender: soft cheesesah
Calvino Rabeni: grrrr :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles .bears in the city ..
Lucinda Lavender: good bread?
Alfred Kelberry: wait, where did you travel, cal?
Paradise Tennant: in yellowknife ..they have polar bears
Lucinda Lavender: Luci's eyebrows go up at polar bears!
Paradise Tennant: that come into town .. one got shot helping himself to freshly baked blue berry muffins in a kitchen seemed so sad to me
Lucinda Lavender: awww!
Lucinda Lavender: so sad
Paradise Tennant: scoffing baked goods should not be a capital offense ..
Alfred Kelberry: oh, cal, this is so cool! the wilderness!
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Alfred Kelberry: hi berty :)
Bertrum Resident: hi everyone
Alfred Kelberry: record low temp is −51.2 c! brr :)
Paradise Tennant: hiya bertrum ..
Paradise Tennant: wait cal where are you that there are bears ?
--BELL--

Calvino Rabeni: southern oregon
Alfred Kelberry: neat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wildcat_Cafe_Yellowknife_Northwest_Territories_Canada_01A.jpg
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Bertrum
Bertrum Resident: Hi Lucinda
Paradise Tennant: ahh nice :) we have little black bears up in .. lake of bays near algonquin park if you leave out pies ..they will come up on the porch and steal them it seems they have a great nose for baking
Calvino Rabeni: the ones around here eat apples and berries mostly
Paradise Tennant: see them alot canoeing too .. had one come into our camp onces
Lucinda Lavender: brave campers
Paradise Tennant: smiles .. only because there is not pastry :)
Calvino Rabeni: they like picnic baskets too
Bertrum Resident: Are these brown or black bears?
Calvino Rabeni: black
Paradise Tennant: little ones ?
Calvino Rabeni: like that one whose pics circulated on the list, raiding a bird feeder
Calvino Rabeni: no they are big enough to carry a deer up a tree
Calvino Rabeni: strongggg
Lucinda Lavender: a wild land...
Calvino Rabeni: yes
Calvino Rabeni: like people, 90% of their strength is held in reserve
Paradise Tennant: thy have a great sense of smell and can run surprising fast
Lucinda Lavender: Luci is hearing about a python that ate a deer too
Lucinda Lavender: amazing what an animal can ingest
Paradise Tennant: a bit smelly bears if you get close to htem ..
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Lucinda Lavender: hmmm
Lucinda Lavender: imagine so
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Dash
Calvino Rabeni: Sometimes people are pests though and get into the bear's bed. They might think the same thing about a wandering human
Dash Earthboy: hey y'all
Calvino Rabeni: hey :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya dash :)
Bertrum Resident: Hi Dash.
Dash Earthboy: heard something about ppl climbing into bear's bed?
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, after sampling the porridge
Lucinda Lavender: I have just now managed to get you all into the picture I see here
Dash Earthboy: i think i saw that movie :)
Calvino Rabeni: the first bed was too hard, the second too soft, but the third ...
Lucinda Lavender: just right?
Paradise Tennant: was just right :) lol
Calvino Rabeni: that's it !
Lucinda Lavender: welcome steve
Lucinda Lavender: steve seems a little cloud in the fountain to me
Paradise Tennant: hya stev
Lucinda Lavender: just the view I have
Bertrum Resident: hi Steve
Calvino Rabeni: Stevenaia
Dash Earthboy: reminds me of the fog this morning :)
--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: would love to send you all a picture of something but everytime I upload I get kicked off
stevenaia Michinaga: hi on phone tonight
Dash Earthboy: hey stev
stevenaia Michinaga: very laggy
Lucinda Lavender: you are poised above the pool:)
Lucinda Lavender: glowing sort of
Paradise Tennant: did you have a topic in mind for tonite cal ?
Calvino Rabeni: hmmmmaybe we can put one together out of pieces?
stevenaia Michinaga: second night of power outage :(
Lucinda Lavender: sorry bout that...
Dash Earthboy: i feel ya stev
stevenaia Michinaga: pab by candel light
Dash Earthboy: good to have candles :)
Dash Earthboy: get a little heat that way too :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles and hands you a glass of wine somehow candles and wine always go together ;)
Calvino Rabeni: tomorrow's halloween, and so there's a rush at the groceries today, with lots of push and tension
Calvino Rabeni: a friend says, it's as dangerous there as on the streets of Bangkok
Calvino Rabeni: though I think that a poetic expression of the feeling
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles cheers
Dash Earthboy: had some come to the door tonight for donations of canned goods for a food bank :0
Calvino Rabeni: There will be a costume parade tomorrow
Calvino Rabeni: and there are a few stalwarts of the "occupy x" movement about
Paradise Tennant: smiles very impressed with it .. our occupy toronto group is only a couple of blocks from me ... very orderly very peaceful very musical
Calvino Rabeni: nods
Alfred Kelberry: stev! :)
Alfred Kelberry: and dash :)
Dash Earthboy: :)
Alfred Kelberry: all white and beautiful :)
Calvino Rabeni: there is a "take your money and run" movement with Nov 5 as the big day
Calvino Rabeni: Have you heard of it?
Paradise Tennant: lol no
Alfred Kelberry: para, what street are they on?
Dash Earthboy: not till now
Lucinda Lavender: no...what does that mean?
Alfred Kelberry: cal?
stevenaia Michinaga: almost boxy
Calvino Rabeni: They mean, put your money in local institutions, not mega-banks
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Calvino Rabeni: The money then becomes a better civic citizen
Paradise Tennant: they have a campsite at the st james church which is on king street and church st
Alfred Kelberry: nice idea
Paradise Tennant: kichen set up lots of little tents .. band platform
Alfred Kelberry: but implementation will suck i'm afraid
Calvino Rabeni: will suck?
Alfred Kelberry: let's put it this way: it won't work
Calvino Rabeni: work how?  It's pretty easy to move my little bits of money into a local credit union ... and I'll save by doing it
Alfred Kelberry: yes, you and a couple of others
Dash Earthboy: likes his credit union :)
Calvino Rabeni: I wonder how attitude change happens ... the labor movement was successful for a long time, and made a difference, but it must have seemed at the time that "this will NEVER work"
Paradise Tennant: it takes us to faith ..
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Paradise Tennant: our beliefs create what works what does not work
Calvino Rabeni: or people say ..."what good will little old me be able to do?"
Calvino Rabeni: not just individual beliefs, but when it goes aggregate
Calvino Rabeni: then there's a big shift
Lucinda Lavender: many little me's together tho?
Calvino Rabeni: yes :)
Dash Earthboy: united we stand
Calvino Rabeni: Yes possibly, after some magic happens ?
Dash Earthboy: but a house divided...
Calvino Rabeni: There are a lot of "in the middle" positions
--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: http://www.appalachian.org/
Lucinda Lavender: Sharing the website of the group taking possesion for the land where my son lives...
Lucinda Lavender: they are doing good work...alotho a move now is hard for my son...but we shall see
Dash Earthboy: pax et bonum y'all
Calvino Rabeni: pax dash
Calvino Rabeni: and bonum too :)
Paradise Tennant: nite nite dash
Lucinda Lavender: night dash
Bertrum Resident: goodnight dash
Lucinda Lavender: I feel sort of in the middle with the situation for him
Lucinda Lavender: glad the land will be preserved
Lucinda Lavender: sorry he has to move and have his house destroyed
Paradise Tennant: why could there not be a compromise ..
Paradise Tennant: every site needs a carekeeper ?
Paradise Tennant: smiles .. we all need carekeepers :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Lucinda Lavender: house would be not up to code for the conservancy to oversee
Lucinda Lavender: cannot rent it...
Paradise Tennant: hmm well can do a schedule of work to get it there ..
Paradise Tennant: better value for them to have a building than no buildi9ng
Lucinda Lavender: one wonders...
Paradise Tennant: can devote to a variety of uses .. info center etc
Lucinda Lavender: I think perhaps they feel it is simpler to knock it down
Paradise Tennant: how old is it
Lucinda Lavender: we suggested he go to the group and talk...
Lucinda Lavender: house is not that oldone of the houses on the property is from 1885
Lucinda Lavender: should be kept it would seem
Paradise Tennant: hmm can be declared heritage then cannot be demolished
Paradise Tennant: they will need a caretaker ...maybe they can select which house to keep .. ? will not tear down the old one ?
Paradise Tennant: he did not have a lease ?
Lucinda Lavender: one that would be nice...there was a care taker in another house who has lived there for a longer time if anyone got that he would
Lucinda Lavender: no lease
Lucinda Lavender: so he is surrendering
Lucinda Lavender: to the whole idea
Paradise Tennant: smiles surrender is good
Lucinda Lavender: I think so...
Paradise Tennant: best really sometimes
Lucinda Lavender: getting the next plan together
Lucinda Lavender: I say...bless him and his gardening skills
Paradise Tennant: really we all need like five year ..plans .. you always have to be looking ahead
Lucinda Lavender: never underestimate what you learned in the first garden
Calvino Rabeni: That's a great span of interests he has
Paradise Tennant: smiles did he like to garden as a child ?
Lucinda Lavender: well no...but we have great pictures of him heating raspberries in grandmas garden:)
Lucinda Lavender: eating
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Lucinda Lavender: there is a gardening heritage
Lucinda Lavender: love of the land
Lucinda Lavender: and food
Paradise Tennant: nothing better than rasberries out of the garden except maybe the little wild ones
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
--BELL--

Calvino Rabeni: eating blueberries and strawberries and figs from the garden?
Paradise Tennant: figs steeped in port ? or red wine ?
Lucinda Lavender: he is gathering lore...
Paradise Tennant: stories ? songs? both ?
Lucinda Lavender: probably...but garden lore too...where you could get a perennial this or that...etc
Lucinda Lavender: how to get the bitterness out of raddichio
Lucinda Lavender: ssoak it
Paradise Tennant: you shared a lovely poem about a garden once luci ? thinking back to the verses
Lucinda Lavender: really...
Lucinda Lavender: I have forgotten
Paradise Tennant: hmm blinking
Lucinda Lavender: he is going to look at a house to rent on the appalichian trail
Lucinda Lavender: too far from town but he was saying...we could make hikers baloney sandwiches:)))
Lucinda Lavender: loved that
Paradise Tennant: smiles would love to hike the applachian trail
Lucinda Lavender: me too..when it is not super hot
Paradise Tennant: like baloney sandwiches too :) with mustard
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Calvino Rabeni: I heard about a friend of a friend who had such a house on the Pacific Crest Trail ...it turned into an ongoing community scene
Paradise Tennant: we could do an appalachian trail hike retreat :)
Lucinda Lavender: wow...can imagine such...
Lucinda Lavender: cool idea Para!
Lucinda Lavender: and invite in the bears
Paradise Tennant: always wanted to the tea house treking in tibet ..treaking teahouse to teahouse :) up the mountains
Bertrum Resident: Might find the fomer govenor of South Carolina there too.
Lucinda Lavender: :0 if the chairs were just right
Paradise Tennant: lol no bears
Paradise Tennant: smiles well maybe ..if they really insist and will behave
Lucinda Lavender: ha ha Bertrum
Lucinda Lavender: tea house treking sounds quite an adventure
Lucinda Lavender: where was the pacific crest trail spot Cal?
Lucinda Lavender: Appalachian mountains the oldest in the world perhaps?
Lucinda Lavender: that makes them especially interesting to me
Lucinda Lavender: ancient mountains
Paradise Tennant: smiles are there ley lines there luci ?
Lucinda Lavender: sorry if I have been dominating the conversation
Lucinda Lavender: oh have no Idea about that...
Calvino Rabeni: Not sure where the spot was, Bert, I think in oregon
Lucinda Lavender: Luci is going to listen now
Lucinda Lavender: instead of talking so much
Paradise Tennant: smiles at luci .. always a pleasure to hear what you have to say luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
Lucinda Lavender: thanks
Paradise Tennant: so my thought for .. the nite .. to mull is ...???
Calvino Rabeni: To mix with wine?
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Calvino Rabeni: I think there's a metaphoric connection between those two meanings
Paradise Tennant: hmmwine and thinking not such a good mix but tends to be friendly
Calvino Rabeni: "to infuse with spirit"
Calvino Rabeni: in vino veritas
Lucinda Lavender: :)))
Paradise Tennant: smiles spirit.. such a little word for such a big thing
Calvino Rabeni: the small common words mean the biggest things
Calvino Rabeni: the bigger the word, the smaller more precise thing it designates
Calvino Rabeni: as an overall, I suppose
Lucinda Lavender: so interesting
--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: Luci wishes her dress was blue/as in true
Calvino Rabeni says - "I" is a very big word ... "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis" is a very small word
Lucinda Lavender: Para some day lets go shopping...
Paradise Tennant: so I will walk the dogs under the stard with no fear of bears and think of all the little words ..
Paradise Tennant: oooo
Paradise Tennant: anytime luci
Paradise Tennant: for a blue dress ?
Lucinda Lavender: nods
Paradise Tennant: smiles sorry for my typos ..
Paradise Tennant: okies !
Lucinda Lavender: wb Steve
Lucinda Lavender: so cal each addition to a word specifies...
Calvino Rabeni: yes a little bit less
Lucinda Lavender: hmm
Paradise Tennant: smiles time for me to say thank and good nite ..namaste my friends .. I will think on love .. spirit .. dog .. all great little words
Lucinda Lavender: you add to subtract?
Bertrum Resident: Goodnight Paradise.
Lucinda Lavender: nite and thanks Paradise
stevenaia Michinaga: night para
Calvino Rabeni: yes but maybe, divide to multiply
Calvino Rabeni: Good night
Lucinda Lavender: interesting
Paradise Tennant: smiles nite nite :)
Lucinda Lavender: best go to get ready for the week...
Calvino Rabeni: fly well !
Lucinda Lavender: sweet dreams to all
Lucinda Lavender: amay you as well:)
Paradise Tennant: waves nite nite aph
Aphrodite Macbain: hi
Bertrum Resident: Night Luci
Aphrodite Macbain: sorry to be late
Aphrodite Macbain: nite luci
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Aph was just leaving...hope you are well...
stevenaia Michinaga: night all
Bertrum Resident: Night Steve.
Calvino Rabeni says goodnight to Stevenaia
Bertrum Resident: wb Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks
--BELL--

Calvino Rabeni:

In other recent news, IBM has sold a "Watson" supercomputer to health care company WellPoint, to be used to aid medical diagnoses, and D-Wave Systems has sold what it claims to be the first commercial quantum computer, to defense contractor Lockheed Martin, for $10M USD.

Thursday marked the passing of philosopher and Jungian therapist James Hillman.  Hillman is often known for his role in the Men's movement in the United States, though his main influence was to work to preserve the ideas of depth and soul in mental health practices.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/28/health/james-hillman-therapist-in-mens-movement-dies-at-85.html