2011.10.20 13:00 - Truly Never

Eliza recovered this session from the auto-listener database...

[13:01] Wol Euler: hello fc
[13:01] FcSeeker Resident: Hello Wol
[13:01] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Wol, HI Fc :)
[13:01] FcSeeker Resident: Hello SophiaSharon
[13:02] Wol Euler: hello sophia
[13:02] FcSeeker Resident: hi Eliza
[13:02] FcSeeker Resident: Hello san
[13:02] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi San :)
[13:02] Wol Euler: hello eliza
[13:02] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Eliza
[13:02] Santoshima Resident: hello Fc\ and everyone
[13:02] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Fc, Wol, Sophia, Santoshima

[13:03] Eliza Madrigal: pool beginning to ice over?
[13:03] SophiaSharon Larnia: I just woke up here and am very groggy
[13:03] SophiaSharon Larnia: oh! it just rezzed for me, hmm
[13:03] Wol Euler: oh yes, well spotted
[13:03] Wol Euler: Storm was at work
[13:03] Eliza Madrigal: :))
[13:03] Eliza Madrigal: How is your new schedule Sophia?
[13:03] SophiaSharon Larnia: good! I'm glad for it
[13:04] Eliza Madrigal: good to hear
[13:04] Wol Euler nods.
[13:04] Eliza Madrigal: ah... pumpkins too...
[13:04] Eliza Madrigal: Storm is nesting us
[13:04] Eliza Madrigal: :)

[13:05] FcSeeker Resident: how are you all ?
[13:05] Wol Euler: tired but otherwise ok
[13:05] Wol Euler: and you?
[13:05] FcSeeker Resident: ...I'm sad...
[13:05] Eliza Madrigal: Oh :(
[13:05] SophiaSharon Larnia: listens
[13:05] Wol Euler: :(
[13:06] Wol Euler: what's up?
[13:06] FcSeeker Resident: ...I realized something so sad today
[13:06] Wol Euler listens.
[13:06] SophiaSharon Larnia: (hi Arch)

[13:07] FcSeeker Resident: how there are such people who's lived many decades and never been loved...
[13:07] Wol Euler nods.
[13:07] Santoshima Resident: good question
[13:07] FcSeeker Resident: it's almost impossible for me to understand such to be true...
[13:07] Wol Euler sighs.
[13:07] Eliza Madrigal: me waves to Arch
[13:08] Eliza Madrigal: -me
[13:08] FcSeeker Resident: Hello Arch
[13:08] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[13:08] Santoshima Resident: hey Arch :)

[13:08] SophiaSharon Larnia: i see it frequently, those who responible party is the state, I dont understand either
[13:09] SophiaSharon Larnia: any attempt to try to understand has made me feel too sad to continue the train of thought

[13:09] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Alfred
[13:09] Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
[13:09] Eliza Madrigal waves to Boxy
[13:09] Alfred Kelberry: neko girl :)

[13:09] FcSeeker Resident: maybe that responsibility is too heavy on their sholders and they are afraid to make their good thoughts to come true...

[13:10] Alfred Kelberry: new eliza :)
[13:10] FcSeeker Resident: hi boxy
[13:10] Wol Euler: hello arch, boxy
[13:10] Alfred Kelberry: woly girl. same hooves :)
[13:11] Wol Euler smiles.
[13:11] Eliza Madrigal checks mirror
[13:11] Santoshima Resident: hi boxy
[13:11] Archmage Atlantis: Hello peeps *chuckles*
[13:11] Alfred Kelberry: anyone noticed pumpkins?
[13:11] Santoshima Resident: yes, a patch of them
[13:11] Wol Euler: not here, WoW is full of them :-P
[13:11] Alfred Kelberry: looks lovely :)
[13:11] SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
[13:12] Alfred Kelberry: there

[13:12] Archmage Atlantis: Prdon me, Chess just showed up....asking for window access
[13:12] Archmage Atlantis: one moment
[13:12] Alfred Kelberry: :)
[13:12] Wol Euler: oh, *those* pumpkins
[13:12] Alfred Kelberry: yep
[13:13] Archmage Atlantis: bk
[13:13] Eliza Madrigal: I happened upon a Walt Whitman poem the other day, that I used to think of all the time but had forgotten... Love Letters from God... appreciative poem about noticing love all around

[13:13] SophiaSharon Larnia: sometimes, Fc, I think part of it may be abuses in the past or addictions, causing them to alienate people, I don't know what kind of situation you refer to.
[13:13] Alfred Kelberry: i just saw them today
[13:13] Wol Euler: ah, sounds nice
[13:13] SophiaSharon Larnia: nice Eliza :))
[13:14] Alfred Kelberry: eliza, be thankful for what you have?
[13:14] Eliza Madrigal: sometimes people who don't have people they connect with, or feel accepted by, dig deeper and somehow notice in nature
[13:14] Alfred Kelberry: archy, strategic move :)
[13:14] FcSeeker Resident: such that the person has never been loved by anybody....
[13:15] Alfred Kelberry: eliza, hmm... in nature find their answers?
[13:15] Wol Euler: were they never loved, or did they not notice, or not permit to happen?

[13:15] FcSeeker Resident: truly never been loved

[13:16] FcSeeker Resident: I have met few such people that I have wondered how come they are as they are...realized today that reason

[13:16] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Arisia! so nice to see you.
[13:16] Wol Euler: hello ari
[13:16] Santoshima Resident: hi Arisia
[13:16] Alfred Kelberry: ari :)
[13:16] FcSeeker Resident: Hello Ari
[13:16] Arisia Vita: so nice to be near you all
[13:16] Eliza Madrigal waves to Ari
[13:17] Alfred Kelberry: not sure i understood the nature and never been loved idea
[13:17] Eliza Madrigal: re question Boxy, I suppose.... faced with such deep satisfaction maybe they crack open
[13:17] Alfred Kelberry: hmm
[13:18] Alfred Kelberry: what satisfaction? for never been loved?
[13:18] Eliza Madrigal: dissatisfaction, meant to say ... sorry didn't mean to sidetrack...
[13:18] Alfred Kelberry: :)

[13:19] Archmage Atlantis: I I many suggest.....not being able, yet, to receive the love that is all around?
[13:19] Alfred Kelberry: i don't mind to sidetrack with you :)
[13:19] Alfred Kelberry: um...
[13:19] Eliza Madrigal laughs
[13:19] Wol Euler nods. that was my take too, Arch
[13:19] Alfred Kelberry: ok, next topic :)
[13:19] SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
[13:20] Archmage Atlantis: Fishing as the next topic.......?
[13:20] Eliza Madrigal: yes Arch
[13:20] Eliza Madrigal: to earlier question :)

[13:20] Archmage Atlantis: Hillbilly handfishing?
[13:20] Eliza Madrigal snorts
[13:20] SophiaSharon Larnia: oh for goodness sake lol

[13:21] Eliza Madrigal: what was your response FcS?
[13:21] Alfred Kelberry: who is going to wok at 2 pm?

[13:22] FcSeeker Resident: my response to what Eliza ?
[13:22] Eliza Madrigal: to the person you encountered which brought up such sadness
[13:23] FcSeeker Resident: ah; I just got sad for my realizing
[13:23] FcSeeker Resident: it's not one person; several
[13:23] Eliza Madrigal: mmm, nods

[13:23] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zon
[13:23] FcSeeker Resident: hi Zon
[13:24] Eliza Madrigal waves to Zon
[13:25] Wol Euler: hello zon
[13:25] Alfred Kelberry: fun fact: some words in polish language have up to 5 consecutive consonants :) no wonder they "shpsh" often :)
[13:25] Wol Euler: "vollschlank"
[13:25] Wol Euler: 6
[13:25] Wol Euler: :-P
[13:26] Alfred Kelberry: ah!

[13:26] SophiaSharon Larnia: ____, I sent you an IM about this group :)
[13:26] Alfred Kelberry: it's not quite 6 though
[13:27] Wol Euler: l l s c h l - how is that not six?
[13:27] Alfred Kelberry: ll and sch are 2 distinsctive sounds
[13:27] Wol Euler: ah, I see
[13:28] Archmage Atlantis: Well, polish seems more pronouncibal than Welsch to me
[13:28] Archmage Atlantis: Even withoouth the grapejusice
[13:29] Alfred Kelberry: does anyone speak welsh here?
[13:30] SophiaSharon Larnia: snorts

[13:31] Santoshima Resident: heading off for a dip and the grassy fields of home ~ thanks all
[13:31] SophiaSharon Larnia: i barely know english half the time
[13:32] Eliza Madrigal laughs and relates
[13:32] SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun San
[13:32] Eliza Madrigal: Bye Santoshima
[13:32] FcSeeker Resident: waves to san
[13:32] Wol Euler: bye santo
[13:32] Alfred Kelberry: woly speaks english perfectly
[13:32] Archmage Atlantis: Lived ing bryn athyn pa a while......Swedenborg's beliefs were interesting
[13:32] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Korel
[13:32] Wol Euler smiles modestly
[13:32] Alfred Kelberry: kori :)
[13:32] Korel Laloix: Heya
[13:32] Eliza Madrigal: Heya Korel

[13:32] Eliza Madrigal: (ah suppose it is part of Leaves of Grass which is why so hard more than small snippets)
[13:32] Wol Euler: hello korel
[13:33] Eliza Madrigal: May I post part of the poem?
[13:33] Archmage Atlantis: Oseyo
[13:33] Wol Euler: please do
[13:33] Wol Euler: we won't tell Walt's estate
[13:33] Alfred Kelberry: whose?
[13:33] FcSeeker Resident: hi Korel
[13:33] Korel Laloix: Hey
[13:33] Archmage Atlantis: We are ppl of big shoulders :)
[13:34] Eliza Madrigal: :)) Thanks...

[13:34] Eliza Madrigal: also qualifying that God in this case could be dao,etc ...hah...
[13:34] _____: go for a walk, thanks for the warm welcome, bye
[13:35] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye ____
[13:35] Wol Euler: bye Aba, take care

[13:35] Eliza Madrigal:

I hear and behold God in every object. . .
Why should I wish to see God better than this day?
I see something of God each hour of the twenty four,
and each moment then,
In the faces of men and women I see God,
and in my own face in the glass.
I find letters from God dropped in the street -
and every one is signed by God's name,

And I leave them where they are,
for I know
that others will punctually come forever and ever.

A vast similitude interlocks all,
All spheres, grown, ungrown, small, large, suns, moons,
planets, comets, asteroids,
All distances, however wide, All distances of time -
all inanimate forms,
All Souls - all living bodies,
though they be ever so different,
or in different worlds,
All gaseous, watery, vegetable, mineral processes -
the fishes, the brutes, All men and women - me also,
All nations, colors, barbarisms, civilizations, languages,
All identities that have existed,
or may exist, on this globe or any globe,
All lives and deaths - all of past, present and future,
This vast similitude spans them, and always has spanned,
and shall forever span them,
and compactly hold them.
Walt Whitman (1819-1892)

[13:36] SophiaSharon Larnia: thats lovely
[13:36] Arisia Vita: ty for sharing that Eliza
[13:36] Eliza Madrigal: apapb :)
[13:36] Eliza Madrigal: most welcome
[13:37] Wol Euler: thank you, eliza, that was lovely
[13:37] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[13:37] FcSeeker Resident: <3<3<3
[13:38] Eliza Madrigal: :)

[13:38] Archmage Atlantis: Dang.......Walt W said that?......and here I am trying to build on Walt D's legacy.....who knew ....all that can be said has been said before, only discovered anew :)
[13:39] SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles at Walt W. vs Walt D :)
[13:39] Eliza Madrigal: :))
[13:42] Archmage Atlantis: All we are, we are
[13:42] Archmage Atlantis: Sorry about that
[13:42] Archmage Atlantis: I keep borrowing from songs
[13:43] Eliza Madrigal: :) they are like butterflies going by
[13:43] SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
[13:43] Wol Euler smiles.

[13:44] Arisia Vita: songs are but poetry set to music, not a cause for sorrow
[13:44] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[13:44] Wol Euler: not even sad songs?
[13:44] SophiaSharon Larnia: music alone without lyrics can evoke many different emotions
[13:44] Arisia Vita: even sadness can have beauty
[13:45] Wol Euler points to Gorecki's 3rd Symphony
[13:45] SophiaSharon Larnia: googles
[13:45] Wol Euler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miLV0o4AhE4
[13:47] Wol Euler: very sad but very beautiful

[13:48] SophiaSharon Larnia: is it wrong to not want to be sad right now
[13:48] Eliza Madrigal: thank you Wol... listening... watching...
[13:48] SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
[13:48] Wol Euler smiles.
[13:48] Wol Euler: perfectly fine, sophia, go for it
[13:48] Eliza Madrigal: :))
[13:48] Wol Euler: there's enough sadness without going looking for it
[13:49] SophiaSharon Larnia: I never know, the answer ends up feeling like a turning of the back

[13:49] Archmage Atlantis: ok, thought I would be silent.......
[13:49] Archmage Atlantis: to be sad, it a gift
[13:49] Archmage Atlantis: It implies a soul

[13:50] Wol Euler: hello __
[13:50] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi ____, let me introduce you to our group in IM to not interupt the chat
[13:50] Archmage Atlantis: Hello Dash
[13:50] Eliza Madrigal: the balance to hold/allow both at once is the thing
[13:50] Archmage Atlantis: Be with me friend
[13:51] Eliza Madrigal: Hi Dash and ____
[13:51] Wol Euler: hello dash
[13:51] FcSeeker Resident: hi Dash and ____
[13:51] Dash Earthboy: hey y'all :)
[13:52] _____: good evening
[13:52] Archmage Atlantis: Chester moved to the HDTV screeen I use as my PC monitor.....he appears to be watching the discussion
[13:52] Eliza Madrigal: this is beautiful, and excruciating
[13:52] Archmage Atlantis: Total non-reality
[13:53] Wol Euler nods
[13:53] Wol Euler: it's not something I can listen to often

[13:53] Eliza Madrigal remembers the departure is in the arrival, re sadness/happiness
[13:54] Archmage Atlantis: Can a cat be an eterial time bomb?
[13:54] SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Dash
[13:54] Archmage Atlantis: Not really sure
[13:55] Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you ____, we are both thoughtful and silly today I think :)
[13:55] SophiaSharon Larnia:____, we also record our sessions and post them on the wiki here: http://wiki.playasbeing.org , is ok if I post your chat
[13:55] SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont understand Arch, a what?
[13:56] ____: for first i will listen ty
[13:56] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[13:56] SophiaSharon Larnia: ok I will take your name out of the log then
[13:56] Archmage Atlantis: Ok, in my mind, Eliza.....Chester, who is a rl cat
[13:57] Eliza Madrigal: yes
[13:57] Archmage Atlantis: Is paying attention to our conversation
[13:57] Eliza Madrigal waves to Chester
[13:57] Dash Earthboy: ethereal cats...ponders the possibilities :)
[13:57] Eliza Madrigal: :)
[13:57] Archmage Atlantis: As if he seems to know that
[13:57] Eliza Madrigal: :)

[13:57] Archmage Atlantis: we are deciding the future of this planet
[13:57] Archmage Atlantis: I apologize
[13:57] Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
[13:58] Wol Euler: for what?
[13:58] Archmage Atlantis: My mind is clear
[13:58] Archmage Atlantis: But society is confused
[13:58] Archmage Atlantis: That is not a recipe for sanity

[13:58] Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see everyone today, Thanks Sophia
[13:59] Wol Euler: bye eliza, take care
[13:59] Dash Earthboy: bye Eliza
[13:59] Eliza Madrigal: thanks :) you too
[13:59] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Eliza! Take crae
[13:59] Eliza Madrigal: Oh, and seeing you now Dash, all scrubbed up :)
[13:59] Archmage Atlantis: Hello, Dash
[13:59] Dash Earthboy: like a shiny penny :)
[13:59] Eliza Madrigal: :))
[13:59] Eliza Madrigal: Bye everyone
[14:01] FcSeeker Resident: waves to Eliza
[14:01] SophiaSharon Larnia: bye for now everyone, see you later
[14:01] Archmage Atlantis: The world you have definded in this group, it s not one of particular ease
[14:01] Dash Earthboy: bye SSL
[14:01] Wol Euler: bye sophia, tajke care
[14:01] SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun
[14:02] Archmage Atlantis: I apologize for the quote
[14:02] Archmage Atlantis: Many will be called, few will follow
[14:02] FcSeeker Resident: waves to Sophia
[14:03] Dash Earthboy: depends on who's calling?
[14:03] Wol Euler nods.
[14:04] Archmage Atlantis: Yes, that is accurate.......as well as I can know
[14:04] _____: i excuse myself, have a nice sl time
[14:04] Dash Earthboy: bye ____
[14:04] Wol Euler: bye ____
[14:04] FcSeeker Resident: waves
[14:04] Dash Earthboy: got a cat here purring like a little motor boat :)
[14:05] Archmage Atlantis: Yea, cats and dogs, the first to follow
[14:06] Dash Earthboy: thought it was flies :)
[14:06] Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care
[14:06] Dash Earthboy: bye Wol
[14:06] Wol Euler: too tired :(
[14:06] Dash Earthboy: sleep sweet :)
[14:06] FcSeeker Resident: takes a humble bow
[14:06] Archmage Atlantis: Chester laid down in front of the screen.....and beside the key board
[14:06] FcSeeker Resident: namaste
[14:06] Dash Earthboy: bye Fc
[14:06] Arisia Vita: I must run too....
[14:06] Archmage Atlantis: almost like he wished to hear something
[14:07] Arisia Vita: it's been great being near you all
[14:07] Dash Earthboy: it's about that time for me too
[14:07] Archmage Atlantis: typed, not spoken
[14:07] Dash Earthboy: bye Ari
[14:07] Archmage Atlantis: It is the great time
[14:07] Archmage Atlantis: Blessings and Namaste, siblings
[14:07] Arisia Vita: be well and happy
[14:07] Dash Earthboy: pax et bonum y'all
[14:10] Korel Laloix: Take care