2011.10.15 07:00 - A lot of things need to change

The Guardian for this meeting was oO0Oo Resident. The comments are by oO0Oo Resident.


Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Arch
Korel Laloix: Heya all.
Samúð (oo0oo): Hey Korel :)
Samúð (oo0oo): Can't seem to claim the log.. ideas anyone?
Archmage Atlantis: Samud.....apologize for not being able to do the symbol over the u.....
Samúð (oo0oo): no worries Arch
Archmage Atlantis: And Korel.....my only contact to the Hopi
Samúð (oo0oo): what looks like a 'd' is also not a d
Korel Laloix: I am not Hopi.... smiles
Korel Laloix: Great movies though.
Samúð (oo0oo): smiles
Archmage Atlantis: Geez.....I am not European American, then
Korel Laloix: brb, more coffee.
Korel Laloix: Hopis are in Arizona.
Samúð (oo0oo): well, I can post from my log anyway :)
Archmage Atlantis: Pls do that
Korel Laloix: Saying Native American is about as broad a statement as Eurasian.
Archmage Atlantis: We are one ppl
Archmage Atlantis: We are one planet
Archmage Atlantis: imho
Korel Laloix: I dissagree with that....
Korel Laloix: imho
Korel Laloix: smiles
Korel Laloix: We are very different, and I like it that way.
Samúð (oo0oo): hey Bruce!
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, 0, Arch, Korel!
Archmage Atlantis: Solving riddles in my own mind this day
Bruce Mowbray: Has anyone claimed this session yet?
Korel Laloix: I have not.
Samúð (oo0oo): Tried bruce, but was unable to... am happy to post from my log...
Archmage Atlantis: It will not allow itself to be claimed
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I see.
Bruce Mowbray: Riddles in my mind.
Samúð (oo0oo): #occupyoctober15 happening all over the world
Archmage Atlantis: Symbolism, or tech difficulties.......one never knows
Bruce Mowbray: Neurons gone amok?
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, echos all over the world
Samúð (oo0oo): 99%
Bruce Mowbray: What is Occupy October 15, please.

--Bell--

Archmage Atlantis: Other young will define.....for me it is when we enter the next phase of being
Play as Being 15 minute bell: Thank you.
Samúð (oo0oo): a flow on from the Occupy WallStreet protests in USA
Archmage Atlantis: You know, Odetta
Samúð (oo0oo): now spread across USA and around the world
Bruce Mowbray: wonders if the Apocalyspse already happened and he missed it.
Bruce Mowbray: Mmmm.
Archmage Atlantis: You did not miss it Bruce
Archmage Atlantis: It is now
Bruce Mowbray: oh thanks. . . I was about to skip breakfast.
Archmage Atlantis: And it is also the time of the phoenix
Korel Laloix: You have to dress for the occation as well.
Bruce Mowbray: Is there some chance we'll confusing OWS with Halloween?
Korel Laloix: THey seem very similar.
Archmage Atlantis: yes, very similar
Korel Laloix: Haloween probalby makes more sense though.... smiles
Bruce Mowbray: I am ,in spirit, totally supportive of the energy of OWS.
Bruce Mowbray: It feels like Anger coupled with HOPE , rather than the Tea Party's Anger coupled with fear.
Korel Laloix: Ander?
Samúð (oo0oo): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTYzDfdQLYU

                           http://15october.net/
Korel Laloix: And Obama destroyed the word hope anyway.
Bruce Mowbray: My fingers have a mind of their own, Korel.
Bruce Mowbray: sry.
Korel Laloix: OH OK.
Korel Laloix: It is just hard to take antigreed posters seriously when they all have expensive I-phones, wearing designer jeans and drinking starbucks by the gallon.
Korel Laloix: And the anti jew flavor is a bit worrying as well.
Bruce Mowbray: oh boy. . . Obama is raizing questions about whether government, compromise, and hope are still alive and well. . . and the Congress is answering "Not on our shift" But the people are answering differently.
Samúð (oo0oo): Hi santo
Korel Laloix: Heya
Bruce Mowbray: Hello, San - - - and whoever just ran by.
Santoshima: think that was claire
Archmage Atlantis: I agree with you on those points, Korel
Bruce Mowbray: ok, Hey Claire.
Santoshima: fast
Bruce Mowbray: Is there a PaB marathon schedules for this morning?
Bruce Mowbray: scheduled?
Archmage Atlantis: However, my parents made it possible for me to be here
Korel Laloix: What do you mean?

Coffee Mug: whispers: Ahh! Fresh Hot Coffee

Archmage Atlantis: Korel, I would not have a keyboard to type on if my parents did not give much of their energy to me

Cup Of Green Tea: whispers: Ah! Steaming Green Tea!

Korel Laloix: I must have dropped part of the conversation.
Korel Laloix: That or my English is really failing me today.
Korel Laloix: wado
Bruce Mowbray: Seems they might have helped along energies that were already in motion, Arch. . . and you are one of the results of that. . . But the energies involved were infinite and too complex to map as just one "cause" of your existence. . . . unless you're speaking poetically, of course.
Archmage Atlantis: Well, Korel......you have no Hopi or Cherokee ancestors.......so my thoughts of you are not true
Korel Laloix: I am lost in language today..... grins
Archmage Atlantis: Bruce
Archmage Atlantis: you and I have history
Archmage Atlantis: Chester is here
Archmage Atlantis: Needs petting


--Bell--


Samúð (oo0oo): sends virtual pet to Chester
Archmage Atlantis: chess is in rl in my arms
Santoshima: :)
Korel Laloix: SOunds cute.
Archmage Atlantis: Blessings an Namaste
Samúð (oo0oo): Namaste Arch
Santoshima: shantih, arh
Santoshima: arch
Samúð (oo0oo):
  Occupy Vancouver
  Occupy Miami
  Occupy Cincinnati
  Occupy Oklahoma
Santoshima: flash mob sitting planned in this city today
Korel Laloix: Mixed feelings about all this.
Korel Laloix: I respect when people actually get out and do seomthing.
Santoshima: the one you just sent the link for, Sam
Santoshima: peacefully gathering is doing something
Korel Laloix: Well, not really, but it is a statement.
Samúð (oo0oo): "Korel Laloix: I respect when people actually get out and do seomthing."... but? Korel?
Samúð (oo0oo): mixed feelings?
Korel Laloix: But again, it looks like a bunch well off people that are complaining that others are even more welll off than they are.
Korel Laloix: And the subtext is rather jewhatish.
Korel Laloix: I know that is not a word....
Korel Laloix: And it is good that it is not just focused in DC.
Korel Laloix: But DC needs a good amount of angry people marching as well.
Samúð (oo0oo): looks can be deceiving... The idealogy and the potrayal in certain media, and even the on the ground presence might not reflect what is actually in most people's minds and hearts.
Korel Laloix: The greed in the whitehouse and congress is just as bad as in Wall Street.
Samúð (oo0oo): Yes... think this is under the umbrella Korel
Korel Laloix: The media only shows what it wants to.
Korel Laloix: One of my half brothers went to a couple of tea party rallies and could not get his picture take by the press regardless of how hard he tried..... or so he said.... smile
Korel Laloix: I am glad people are worked up though.

Coffee Mug: whispers: Ahh! Fresh Hot Coffee

Korel Laloix: A lot of things need to change.
Korel Laloix: A lot of people in my generation are very angry right now.
Samúð (oo0oo): wb Bruce
Samúð (oo0oo): not only your generation Korel
Santoshima: hi bruce
Bruce Mowbray: sry - - - just had a major poof. . .


--Bell--


Bruce Mowbray: listens respectfully.
Bruce Mowbray: Archie also seems to have poofed. . .
Santoshima: yes, he left after you
Bruce Mowbray: I see all these links to Occupied cities. . .
Korel Laloix: maybe they went to protest.
Santoshima: sent
Korel Laloix: OK.... time to go run.
Santoshima: bye korel
Samúð (oo0oo): :) Korel
Korel Laloix: Take care all.. thanks for the chat
Bruce Mowbray: I like the idea of meditators taking a cushion - - - with the suggestion that the real revolution is through awareness.
Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Korel.
Bruce Mowbray: We did this in Washington DC once - - - one of the Buddhist groups there . . . last week in January of 2007.
Bruce Mowbray: A lot of protesting is finding what will "trigger" the interest of the un-involved.
Santoshima: yes
Bruce Mowbray: (pardon the weapon image - trigger)
Santoshima: 'ok
Santoshima: s
Santoshima: i better go, good to see you both ~ peaceful day to you
Bruce Mowbray: wonders if crowds will do that anymore - - - seems that thes days movements might be cybernetic. . .
Samúð (oo0oo): Bye Santo
Bruce Mowbray: have a beauty-filled weekend.
Bruce Mowbray: Bye, San!
Santoshima: shantih, sam
Santoshima: love to you, bruce
Samúð (oo0oo): cybernetic.. nods... complimentary i would say now
Samúð (oo0oo): heya Blub :)
Bruce Mowbray: so, folks sense they have "commnality" with the protestors in a complimentary way. . . and that triggers their involvement. . .
Bruce Mowbray: a sort of quest for identity. . .
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Boxy.
Alfred Kelberry: quiet session?
Bruce Mowbray: not sure, Boxy. I got poofed for most of it -- and when I came back, a couple folks were gone.
Samúð (oo0oo): yes... it's almost as if a shift has occured from the passive TV watching generations, to folks being able to leap through the sceen with their friends and neighbors to the scene of being
Samúð (oo0oo): Hi boxy
Bruce Mowbray: looks like this might be a Phoenix opportunnity for the three of us, though.
Alfred Kelberry: most of my friends don't watch tv :)
Alfred Kelberry: it's the net generation :)
Alfred Kelberry: tv is old, confined and non-interactive
Bruce Mowbray: "I am because I observe" has changed to "I am because I TWEET. . . (or variations thereof.)"
Alfred Kelberry: heh
Samúð (oo0oo): I am my connectivity?
Alfred Kelberry: amount of data has increased dramatically, bruce
Bruce Mowbray: the medium is the identity.
Samúð (oo0oo): we are the network?
Bruce Mowbray: (sry Marshal McLuhan)


--Bell--


Bruce Mowbray: You know, Boxy, I was thinking just that (increace of data) as I was adding a photo gallery to my website last night -- with 85 photos of my recent trip to Chicago. . . (Was I just throwing even more data into the vast sea....?)
Samúð (oo0oo): Would love to see those bruce :)
Samúð (oo0oo): thanks for the link Bruce.. will enjoy looking at those
Wol Euler: afternoon all
Bruce Mowbray: sHey Wol!
Wol Euler: sighs.
Wol Euler: I forgot about Adams' session :(
Samúð (oo0oo): Hi Wol
Wol Euler: oh hell's bells
Samúð (oo0oo): I couldn't claim the log Wol, but will post from my log
Wol Euler: was the recorder running?
Samúð (oo0oo): yes has been running
Bruce Mowbray: none of us could claim it, Wol.
Wol Euler: meaning that it didn't react at all, or ... ?
Samúð (oo0oo): yes
Wol Euler: damn
Bruce Mowbray: I got NO reaction at all.
boxy's nose: Bruce pokes boxy's nose
Bruce Mowbray: (except from Boxy's nose....)

  Wol works on fixing the logger

Bruce Mowbray: has ideas about making Boxy's nose into an auto0logger.
Wol Euler: please do :)
Bruce Mowbray: Boxy won't let me claim it.
Wol Euler: heh, then it really *is* a recorder
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Bruce Mowbray: is grateful thaty others understand these high-tech exquisitries.
Alfred Kelberry: woly girl :)
Wol Euler: hey
Alfred Kelberry: wait, logger is stopped?
Samúð (oo0oo): sees sparks and shadows, hears clanging and powertool noises coming from Wol's direction
Wol Euler: it was never on, boxy -- unless you all heard a message every 7 minutes "the log has not been claimed"
Alfred Kelberry: heh, bruce. interesting idea (re nose autologger)
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Wol Euler: it is either claimed, or being complained about, or off, or dead
Alfred Kelberry: i've just got here
Wol Euler: ah
Alfred Kelberry: hmm
Alfred Kelberry: poor logger boy
Alfred Kelberry: confused
Wol Euler: nods.
Bruce Mowbray: I've juset returned from being poofed for much of this session.
Alfred Kelberry: there must be negative energy somewhere
Samúð (oo0oo): When I responded to your question about recording Wol, it was just in seeing the floating label that says "recording"
Wol Euler: that label is alas nearly meaningless, if it dies while recording, the message stays there
Wol Euler: it's set and taken off by the script
Wol Euler: so if the script dies without taking it off ...
Alfred Kelberry: deceiving
Wol Euler: yep
Samúð (oo0oo): just let me know when I ought try to claim Wol, and I'll have a go :)
Wol Euler: well, I did restart it so it is alive right now; but that will not help the last hour's discussion
Wol Euler: the last session in the database was my 1am
Alfred Kelberry: yay!
Alfred Kelberry: started
Wol Euler: woot.


--Bell--


boxy's nose: Samúð gently squeezes boxy's nose
Alfred Kelberry: :)

Bruce Mowbray: interesting graphic. . . What does it mean?
Wol Euler: all they have in common?

Alfred Kelberry: venn diagram for the pheno workshop

boxy's nose: Wol Euler licks boxy's nose
Bruce Mowbray: Siamese twins?
Alfred Kelberry: this is what sparked it
Alfred Kelberry: bruce, the opposite, actually :)
Wol Euler: do you not know venn diagrams? funny, one gets strange ideas about what is common in the world :)
Bruce Mowbray: has never heard of Phenom workship, so listens carefully.
Wol Euler: ah, that :)
Wol Euler: yours, boxy.
Alfred Kelberry: oh, you're an old timer. you should know :)
Bruce Mowbray: "pheno"?
Wol Euler: phenomenology
Wol Euler: husserl and all that
Bruce Mowbray: Oh --- Sure. . . OK.
Bruce Mowbray: thanks. I was thinking they might be linking up to be a new identity. . .
Samúð (oo0oo): notices Wol's group tag and smiles warmly
Wol Euler: the bastard mutant child! *shivers*
Wol Euler: smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: *thinks about identity and one certain workshop that is due*
Wol Euler: sticks out her tongue and makes an impolite noise.
Alfred Kelberry: :P
Alfred Kelberry: it's time!
Wol Euler: yes, I know
Alfred Kelberry: our identities are in jeopardy!
Bruce Mowbray: oh dear --- another rolling restart in the works?
Alfred Kelberry: it's really a shame for this topic to come by unnoticed
Alfred Kelberry: nope
Bruce Mowbray: ok. . . . the topic of identity, then?
Alfred Kelberry: yep
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.
Alfred Kelberry: sl is baically all about it
Bruce Mowbray: couldn't agree more, Boxy.
Bruce Mowbray: layers and layers and layers about it.
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: *pokes woly*
Alfred Kelberry: it doesn't have to be all perfectly planned and calculated, woly :)
Wol Euler: boxy, I don't have time
Wol Euler: really
Alfred Kelberry: eh
Wol Euler: ruffles your ears
Wol Euler: hey
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: I want to. I think it's a good idea
Wol Euler: and it would inform and entertain the masses including myself
Wol Euler: but I just do not have time
Bruce Mowbray: Knowing that few individuals do not have the time to make the rivers flow or the flowers bloom, somehow the rivers and flowers get that done on their own.
Bruce Mowbray: sry
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: I've been getting to the office at 6:30 every morning to drive to the site, and getting home
Wol Euler: just before the 1am session
Bruce Mowbray: I sure hope that when it's all finished, you take a long, well-deserved sauna in your new site.
Wol Euler: that would be nice :)
Alfred Kelberry: why not going on site straight ahead? :)
Wol Euler: I think we've earned that
Bruce Mowbray: you surely have earned that!
Alfred Kelberry: 6:30 every morning is tough indeed
Alfred Kelberry: when the world is asleep, woly is out there catching the bad guys
Samúð (oo0oo): sounds like a super hero to me
Alfred Kelberry: *pokes woly's naked part* :)
Wol Euler: wonders which
Alfred Kelberry: um... a thigh :)
Wol Euler: ah
boxy's nose: Wol Euler clicks boxy's nose
Alfred Kelberry: *purrs*


--Bell--


Alfred Kelberry: *wants cheesecake*
Samúð (oo0oo): hands a dessert plate, fork and serviette to boxy with slice of cheescake
Alfred Kelberry: wee! :)
Alfred Kelberry: *noms*
Bruce Mowbray: tummy is protesting - - wants something to occupy it now.
Alfred Kelberry: um... thank you :)
Bruce Mowbray: So, thanks good people, I shall be away.
Wol Euler: bye bruce, bon appetit
Alfred Kelberry: eat well, brucie
Alfred Kelberry: that's how aga calls him :)
Alfred Kelberry: aga girl
Alfred Kelberry: and she's not here for some reason
Samúð (oo0oo): Bye Bruce :)
Alfred Kelberry: woz is afraid for apple
Wol Euler: ?
Alfred Kelberry: he's afraid apple will lose its touch
Alfred Kelberry: like sony did
Wol Euler: possible
Alfred Kelberry: yes, jobs was *the* guy
Wol Euler: it's certianly lost Steve's touch, alas
boxy's nose: Samúð softly kisses boxy's nose
Alfred Kelberry: but everything changes
Alfred Kelberry: look at sun
Alfred Kelberry: :/
Alfred Kelberry: sam, that was timely actually :)
Alfred Kelberry: ok, a few points. at the iphone 4s launch two things worried him: 1. mention of dual-core cpu and 2. split antennas
Alfred Kelberry: he says people want to know that: 1. it's faster, 2. better reception
boxy's nose: Wol Euler slowly strokes boxy's wet nose
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Samúð (oo0oo): smiles. I'd better be going, but nice to be with you both. thank you for fixing the logger Wol. Thanks for being you Alfred. :)))
Wol Euler: it ain't fixed yet, alas :) I'm working on that
Wol Euler: but it is at least running
Alfred Kelberry: sam :)
Wol Euler: bye Samúð, enjoy your saturday
Samúð (oo0oo): oh i shall occupy myself today ;)
Samúð (oo0oo): should be good
Samúð (oo0oo): best to you
Wol Euler: smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: have a cheesecake :)
Samúð (oo0oo): not too much heavy petting after I poof
Samúð (oo0oo): lol
Alfred Kelberry: *moves closer to woly*
Samúð (oo0oo): oh heck go for it!
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: hehehe
Samúð (oo0oo): :)

Alfred Kelberry: that's a nice family picture :)
Wol Euler: awwww
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: did your nose just make a little "wuff" noise?
Alfred Kelberry: um, nope
Wol Euler: huh
Alfred Kelberry: usual bubble
Alfred Kelberry: eh, feel tired. i should go lay down.


--Bell--


Alfred Kelberry: thank you, woly
Alfred Kelberry: and others
Wol Euler: bye boxy, take care, nap well
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: fold yourself up nice and tight to keep warm
Alfred Kelberry: heh, will do :)