2011.10.09 13:00 - a warm open pool of love

The guardain for this session is Maxine Walden.  The comments are hers.

This session evolved into a very moving session, as reflected in the title, nearly the exact words which Wol mentioned late in the session about what it is like to be around little children.  My understanding of the session is that as we began to be able to address and appreciate some of the 'child feelings' we all have, when it was clear that we could be open to those feelings, that even more sharing occurred and that it did feel like an open pool of love.  Please have a read and see what you think about the session, whether it strikes you as filled with the warmth that it did us.

Wol Euler: hello again maxine

Maxine Walden: hi, again, Wol!

Maxine Walden: how is your project, almost through?

Wol Euler: yes, very much so. The opening celebration was on Saturday, as of today it is in normal use

Wol Euler: there remains a lot of fiddly work to do patchng things up

Maxine Walden: oh, yes, you mentioned that last week. Sorry I forgot that detail

Wol Euler: no worries

Wol Euler smiles.

Maxine Walden: Ah, just fiddly stuff. You must be relieved, have more space...

Wol Euler: at least we won't be on site every day any more

Wol Euler nods.

Maxine Walden: (envisioning Wol in her hard hat, on site every day) :)

Wol Euler: heheheh

Wol Euler: the health and safety inspector wisely stayed away

Wol Euler: he'd have had to close us down.

Maxine Walden: oh?

Wol Euler: **nobody** wore a hard hat, or ear/eye protectors, or hard shoes

Maxine Walden: Is that usual in Germany?

Wol Euler: well :)

Wol Euler: officially no, officially everyone always does (nods vigorously)

Maxine Walden: :)

Wol Euler: in practice, who can be bothered?

FcSeeker Resident: Hello Max and Wol

Wol Euler: hello fc

Maxine Walden: I see!!

Maxine Walden: hi, fc, welcome

Maxine Walden: ah, cascade of hearts :)

Maxine Walden: Last week Wol and I were talking about her project as I recall and I got the feeling that you may have felt left out, fc.

Maxine Walden: Sorry if that occurred

FcSeeker Resident: I dont remember such...

Wol Euler: good :)

Maxine Walden: OK, sometimes I feel overly sensitive about things....:)

Maxine Walden: glad

FcSeeker Resident: well; was left out for somebody else, but not you or Wol

Maxine Walden: oh?

Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.

FcSeeker Resident: ah well; such happens a lot here that somebody else 'takes' the topic to elsewhere

FcSeeker Resident: maybe people have not noticed as I so seldom try to suggest any topic...

Maxine Walden: yes, guess that can happen. Do you have something you would like to mention here?

FcSeeker Resident: but yes; freedom was the topic I would've like to 'have' ...

FcSeeker Resident: thankfully there's much much more such people that loves me ; and I sure love them :)***

Wol Euler smiles.

FcSeeker Resident: that's one so huge thing in toy's life :)***

Maxine Walden: love?

FcSeeker Resident: to been loved so much and cuddled even cannot cuddle myself and so :)***

FcSeeker Resident: I feel such grace for that that I cannot describe enough

Maxine Walden: ah, sounds like you are very grateful for that

FcSeeker Resident: I sure am

Wol Euler nods.

Maxine Walden: Life can be lonely at times. so good to feel loved

FcSeeker Resident: that's something I experienced only as child; to be lonely

Maxine Walden: hmm

Bell

Maxine Walden: Wol, have you thought any more about your local retreat?

FcSeeker Resident: but I myself felt love still; even to my evil sis and truly hard mom..

Wol Euler: alas, no

FcSeeker Resident: but already in teen age I couldn't feel love to my sis anymore because she tortured me so mcuh

FcSeeker Resident: muhch

Maxine Walden: very painful, fc, to feel one's family members as hard or evil, I would imagine

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: hello susan

FcSeeker Resident: well; the spirit chooses also the family to which shall be born, so there was something that teached me

Maxine Walden: hi, susan!

Maxine Walden: I see.

iwandertoo Resident: waves. hi Fc, Wol, Maxine

FcSeeker Resident: Hello O

Maxine Walden: hi, O

Wol Euler: hello sam

oO0Oo Resident: 

oO0Oo Resident:     ☻/

oO0Oo Resident:     /▌   hi  :-)

oO0Oo Resident:     / \ 

Maxine Walden: :))

Wol Euler: heheheh, nice graphics! I hope the log captures them

oO0Oo Resident: :)

FcSeeker Resident: rises a story...

Wol Euler listens.

FcSeeker Resident: ok

Maxine Walden: :) yes, think we are all listening, fc

FcSeeker Resident: there was a man who drove lorry for the very trusted and liked company

FcSeeker Resident: he was not happy, because women made so much fun with him and he took that to be insult always

Maxine Walden: hi, san

FcSeeker Resident: so he finally arranged that he got own company

FcSeeker Resident: Hello san

FcSeeker Resident: then he became happy

FcSeeker Resident: he had have all well fer few ten's of years when he met me

FcSeeker Resident: but he still was bitter for those women and shared that with me

FcSeeker Resident: and commented how much bad they did to him

Santoshima Resident: { hello everyone, keyboard lag ... }

Maxine Walden: :), San

FcSeeker Resident: ...well...then I asked him that 'could it be that you found your own way by their behavior...so can it be that in the end they did such good to you which you wouldn't find other way...'

FcSeeker Resident: ..he got rid of his bitterness

FcSeeker Resident: that about that

Wol Euler smiles.

Maxine Walden: ah, you recast it for him, perhaps, recast the bitterness. Very interesting story, fc

Wol Euler: thank you, fc

FcSeeker Resident: thank you for listening

Maxine Walden: helping to recast can drain the bitterness it seems

Maxine Walden: yes, happy to listen

Maxine Walden: and perhaps listening was what that gentleman in the story wanted all the time; to be listened to and taken seriously

FcSeeker Resident: hi Zon

FcSeeker Resident: yes

FcSeeker Resident: you are so very right

Santoshima Resident: hello zen :)

Maxine Walden: mic on, san :)

Wol Euler: hello zen

Zen Arado: Hi all

Zen Arado: lots of birds Santo?

Wol Euler: aggerses

Agatha Macbeth: Greetings

Maxine Walden: hi, Aen, Agatha

Zen Arado: Hi Aggers :)

Maxine Walden: Zen

Agatha Macbeth: Funny noises

FcSeeker Resident: he had not met the person who understood him truly...nor to see what was meant to him by his karma

FcSeeker Resident: hi Aggers

Santoshima Resident: having bread and cheese

FcSeeker Resident: by doing the worke he loved even more, because he started to serve individual persons as the taxi driver/owner

Maxine Walden: maybe when we feel heard and understood we feel we have more care to offer...

Maxine Walden: in return.

Wol Euler nods.

Santoshima Resident: yes

FcSeeker Resident: I have much faith to that also to be true

Bell

FcSeeker Resident: and I've been also happy that more of the people have learned that even the baby can communicate with thoughts when dont yet speak, because experiences in such age are quite permanent 'behavior effeting' things...but still most of the people dont 'speak' with babies and they feel themself 'not to exist' when nobody responds to their ecxpressions; meaning in publick places

Santoshima Resident: ;)

FcSeeker Resident: and mom's and pa's lookes only around for shopping or for some other events...

Zen Arado: babies haven't learned many concepts yet

Maxine Walden: yes, so much sensitivity in babies to be seen deeply and taken seriously...and as adults we often seem to forget that, perhaps becuase it is painful to remember that experience in our own lives

Zen Arado: but they see life going on all around them just the same

Zen Arado: they are more open to it too than we are I think

Maxine Walden: agree, zen

FcSeeker Resident: specially when nobody responds to their 'hello'

FcSeeker Resident: most of the people closes the seeing in 3 year 'old' eyes

Maxine Walden: we can turn away from our own inner child I think, often feeling we should 'be grown up'...not 'be so sensitive'

Wol Euler nods.

FcSeeker Resident: the most normal way of human life :)<3<3<3

Wol Euler: "inappropriate"

Maxine Walden: agree, wol. We can be so judgmental toward our own early feeling states and vulnerabilities...brutal even

Maxine Walden: Takes energy and compassion, in my experience, to remain open and accepting of all the parts of ourselves

Zen Arado: 'Become as a little child'

Zen Arado: Jesus

Wol Euler nods.

Maxine Walden: :)

FcSeeker Resident: or Mary

Santoshima Resident: same

FcSeeker Resident: thankfully the knowledge/awareness of what is this inner child; the subconciousness, is more and more spreading

Zen Arado: I love to see little children in supermarket trollies

FcSeeker Resident: and peole learn to find many fears to be irrelevant and get rid of them

Zen Arado: I am at their level in an electric wheelchair

FcSeeker Resident: <3<3<3

Santoshima Resident: :)

Wol Euler smiles.

Maxine Walden: :)

Zen Arado: they are so happy whiule their mother fuses with the shopping

iwandertoo Resident: :)

FcSeeker Resident: I be you can also communicate with them ?

FcSeeker Resident: bet

Zen Arado: they smile and I smile back :)

FcSeeker Resident: that is to communicate :)<3<3<3<

Zen Arado: wave their rattle at me

FcSeeker Resident: smiles

Wol Euler: :)

Maxine Walden: mic open, san

Santoshima Resident: sorry, i turned it off in pereferences ...

Santoshima Resident: don't know why

Santoshima Resident: it comes on

Maxine Walden: very direct communication, zen

Zen Arado: yeh..never thought about it till now

Maxine Walden: that can be a bit frustrating, san, probably more for you than for us

FcSeeker Resident: grins

FcSeeker Resident: to Zen

Maxine Walden: yes, such direct communication can feel so moving...

Zen Arado: little boys look at my electric wheelchair with eyes like saucers

Maxine Walden: really?

FcSeeker Resident: been so happy to hear people to notice beautiful things they have done not even noticing it <3

Zen Arado: they would love to try it

Maxine Walden: :))

Maxine Walden: love a ride?

Zen Arado: a big toy to them

Zen Arado: when they get older they learn not to look

FcSeeker Resident: and your attitude dont take a way their natural approaching it <3<3<3

oO0Oo Resident: I think these smiles between little children and others in grocery stores are very poignant and important gestures.

Maxine Walden: agree, O

Bell

Wol Euler: agreed

FcSeeker Resident: indeed

FcSeeker Resident: you may even teach those little ones to remember that there's no need to turn they look seing a person in the wheel chair even they grow up to adults

Wol Euler nods.

Zen Arado: yes Sam

Zen Arado: older people seem to communicate better with young children th\an their parents

Zen Arado: things aren't so important any more

FcSeeker Resident: they have learned more and has time to others more...

Zen Arado: yes ..less impatient too

iwandertoo Resident: i think most parents care deeply about their children...short glimpses into interactions may not allow you to fairly assess the relationships

oO0Oo Resident: the parents need compassion too

Zen Arado: oh yes agree

Maxine Walden: important point, susan

FcSeeker Resident: yes, but the most common society is that it demands so much from parents that they cannot do that all

Zen Arado: wasn't criticizing the parents

oO0Oo Resident: but when shopping they are sometimes in a very different space than the kids

Wol Euler nods.

iwandertoo Resident: how a child imteracts with you is indicative of the parenting

Wol Euler: adults are often in a "hurry" space that kids just don't know aobout

FcSeeker Resident: hear you Zen too

Zen Arado: it's time pressure mostly maybe

Zen Arado: yes

Maxine Walden: This session feels quite moving in that we seem to be sharing rather openly around some deep issues. Just want to appreciate that

Zen Arado: we don't realize the wonders of modern shopping

Santoshima Resident: ty, maxine

Maxine Walden: :)

FcSeeker Resident: <3

Zen Arado: the sheer choice and quality we have

oO0Oo Resident: because the kids are generally so open... the magical moments acn occur... that you look at them in a way that says... "I see you, and am glad you are here on Earth"

oO0Oo Resident: *can

Wol Euler nods.

Zen Arado: nods

Wol Euler: being around small kids is like wading in a warm, shallow pool of love

Wol Euler: (quoting myself, sorry :)

oO0Oo Resident: sometimes a parent will glean this moment too and relax a bit

Zen Arado: of course they throw tantrums too :)

Maxine Walden: Lovely images of children's love

Santoshima Resident: direct communication

Zen Arado: when they get a little older

oO0Oo Resident: yes then expressing sympathy for the carer is important

Santoshima Resident: yes

Zen Arado: yes

Maxine Walden: Thinking of what to title this chatlog: one thought is 'a warm, shallow pool of love'; other thoughts as to a title?

Zen Arado: hard to beat that Maxine :)

Wol Euler smiles.

oO0Oo Resident: I would replace shallow with "open"

Zen Arado: have to go now to Bert's meditation

Sunshine Vayandar is Online

Maxine Walden: :) thanks for coming

Wol Euler: oh yes, me too

oO0Oo Resident: _/\_ Zen

Wol Euler: thanks for the reminder

Zen Arado: bye all

Wol Euler: goodnight all

Maxine Walden: I see your point, O, not shallow at all

FcSeeker Resident: good night

Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now

iwandertoo Resident: waves

Santoshima Resident: good night zen, and wol, pleasant dreams

oO0Oo Resident: waves to departing folks

oO0Oo Resident: mic san

Maxine Walden: I will need to leave as well. See you all soon.

FcSeeker Resident: waves to Maxine

oO0Oo Resident: appreciate you Maxine take care

iwandertoo Resident: ty Maxine