2011.10.24 19:00 - Identity Enough

The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sam :)
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Eliza, Hi Santoshima
Santoshima Resident: hi
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Santo :)
Santoshima Resident: hi
Eliza Madrigal: very pretty necklace
Santoshima Resident: free
Eliza Madrigal digs in inventory bag for topic
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, ty
Santoshima Resident: yw
Eliza Madrigal: this occupy group I joined is quite active with IMs... one sec am going to turn them down somehow :)
Eliza Madrigal: one would think I'd know how to do these technical things after being here for a good while now :)
Eliza Madrigal: ah well :)
Eliza Madrigal: anyway, here now with you both.
Santoshima Resident: brb
Eliza Madrigal: sure :)
oO0Oo Resident: seems there's always more to learn technically.. and as technology changes rapidly, more again still. Fortunately, some people bring gracefulness to all these imperfect realms.

Eliza Madrigal: have been thinking it would be nice to have some sort of event in the village again... even if for no particular occasion.. nothing fancy or requiring a lot of planning
Eliza Madrigal: Sunshine said to let her know... maybe we play in her cafe... or wander around...
oO0Oo Resident: I was thinking
oO0Oo Resident: that
Eliza Madrigal: yes?

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: :)
Santoshima Resident: never seen her place
Santoshima Resident: never met her
Eliza Madrigal: Ohh... near Aphrodite's place.... She's been quite busy with RL as of late...
Eliza Madrigal: but lovely person
Eliza Madrigal: and still peeks in, though not too much in sessions

Eliza Madrigal: Sun had an open cafe in Africa where she lives...
Santoshima Resident: oh, where?
Eliza Madrigal: for ten years, and a heart vision of a kind of hm..
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: well openness is the best way to describe sun I think
Eliza Madrigal: I'm not sure she shared that specifically... though there is a flickr set...
Santoshima Resident: from her RL?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: let me see if she decorated her wiki page :)

Eliza Madrigal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2011/01/2011.01.18_13%3a00_-__South_African_Sunshine?highlight=sunshine
Santoshima Resident: ty
Eliza Madrigal: well, here is a session where she visited first anyway
Eliza Madrigal: The spot she made in the village has Eden's Neighborhood Cafe' poem posted...
Eliza Madrigal: which jives so well with Sun's and Pema's sort of vision too
Eliza Madrigal: anyway :)
Santoshima Resident: thanks

Eliza Madrigal: I met Sun elsewhere and then she came here while I was in New Orleans. By the time I came back the whole group was dancing all the time
Eliza Madrigal: she was playing violin over voice...etc...hah
oO0Oo Resident: :)))
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Santoshima Resident: fun
oO0Oo Resident: (((((Sunshine))))))
Eliza Madrigal: yes (((((Sunshine))))) :)))

Bleu Oleander: hiya :)
oO0Oo Resident: Heya Bleu :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hey Bleu! :))
Santoshima Resident: hi bleu
Eliza Madrigal: (((((Bleu))))))) too
oO0Oo Resident: ya
Bleu Oleander: (((everyone)))
Eliza Madrigal: (((((everyone)))))
Santoshima Resident: (((((((((((((?)))))))))))))))) good to see you bleu
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you too :)
oO0Oo Resident: nice outfit :)
Bleu Oleander: ty!

Eliza Madrigal: we've not really settled on a topic... were musing about maybe having an almost unplanned gathering in the village... maybe near Sun's house...
Bleu Oleander: oh nice
oO0Oo Resident: i must have missed that
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: how is Sun ... haven't seen her in a while
Eliza Madrigal: then was telling Santo about Sun, since she hasn't met her yet
Eliza Madrigal: very well... energetic and up to various things :) project in RL as I understand

Santoshima Resident: some people here show their RL
Santoshima Resident: some do not
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful quality of SL imo
Santoshima Resident: what do you like about it eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: ah, many things... but I suppose mainly the idea of suspending judgement for a while, questioning identity...
Santoshima Resident: hello observerm
Eliza Madrigal: of course that sounds abstract
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Obs
Santoshima Resident: well
Santoshima Resident: not so abstract
Eliza Madrigal: but 'drop what you have to see what you are' is a big pab theme generally
Santoshima Resident: specifically for you, that is what it is
Eliza Madrigal: well it is one thing :)
Santoshima Resident: pardon?
Eliza Madrigal: it is one thing, for me
Eliza Madrigal: thinking of the years I've been in SL and all the people I've met

--BELL--

oO0Oo Resident: [OK I scrolled back and see where you mention the notion of a gathering Eliza] Is it just me, or does chat sometimes fill in strangely due to lag? I thought I was paying attention ::shrugs::
Eliza Madrigal: I think it does... sometimes I read a session and have completely missed something :)
Santoshima Resident: you answered as though part of the conversaton, Sam
Santoshima Resident: with eliza
Santoshima Resident: i can find
Santoshima Resident: [ ... ]
Santoshima Resident: [19:13] Eliza Madrigal: have been thinking it would be nice to have some sort of event in the village again... even if for no particular occasion.. nothing fancy or requiring a lot of planning [19:14] Eliza Madrigal: Sunshine said to let her know... maybe we play in her cafe... or wander around... [19:14] Samúð (oo0oo): I was thinking [19:14] Samúð (oo0oo): that [19:14] Eliza Madrigal: yes?

oO0Oo Resident: yes, well perhaps ambiguous... I was intending to reflect on a topic ... hehe
oO0Oo Resident: maybe thatis where my attention went
oO0Oo Resident: but then the bell

Santoshima Resident: sure, did you find one? a topic?

Eliza Madrigal: :)) yes I think I interrupted you...
oO0Oo Resident: I was thinking of a frame
Eliza Madrigal listens happily for topic
oO0Oo Resident: Oh! Well thank you... um..

oO0Oo Resident: Sometimes I think one can feel as though our needs need to be fulfilled in particular ways, but that *really*, it is more a question of the needs being fulfilled, independent of the specifics.
oO0Oo Resident: In thinking about a contemplation, or frame for the break...
oO0Oo Resident: I thought.. what about...

oO0Oo Resident: "May others have what they need"

oO0Oo Resident: And this seemed a way to kind of give everything away, which is kind of like dropping... and everything being fulfilled, sort of open and spacious... so... just that :)

Eliza Madrigal: 'may others have what they need'

oO0Oo Resident: oh see! Obs got what he/she always needed :)))
Santoshima Resident: what?
oO0Oo Resident: ObserverM
oO0Oo Resident: hehehe
oO0Oo Resident: just left the region
oO0Oo Resident: ;)
Santoshima Resident: inside joke?
Eliza Madrigal laughs ...
oO0Oo Resident: No, but not well articulated
oO0Oo Resident: just thinking
oO0Oo Resident: that after Eliza put that aspiration...
oO0Oo Resident: obs left
oO0Oo Resident: and I imagind zie being fulfilled
Eliza Madrigal nods... like package arriving at door
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
oO0Oo Resident: like a hungry ghost
oO0Oo Resident: that finally got enough
oO0Oo Resident: or something
oO0Oo Resident: [not that i see you that way Obs]

Eliza Madrigal: Bleu, I wonder if you have thoughts about suspension of identity in SL
Santoshima Resident: maybe needed to go feed the cat, or something ...
Bleu Oleander: hmmm
Bleu Oleander: I'm pretty much who I am
Bleu Oleander: whatever that means :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
oO0Oo Resident: :)

Bleu Oleander: what does it mean to suspend identity?
Eliza Madrigal: I've talked about this a little before, but when younger and the internet first arrived on my doorstep, so to speak, my biggest curiosity was to go in and talk to people who didn't know, for instance, my age...
Eliza Madrigal: I was about hm 25, 26..
Eliza Madrigal: and wanted to sort of see the ideas play on their own
Eliza Madrigal: so SL allows people to ask those sorts of questions in differnt ways I think

Bleu Oleander: on the surface I agree
Bleu Oleander: but hard to keep up appearances
oO0Oo Resident: the appearance of not having appearances?

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: 'may others have what they need'
oO0Oo Resident: during the break
oO0Oo Resident: I looked around
oO0Oo Resident: and
oO0Oo Resident: phenomena sort of said
oO0Oo Resident: what Bleu did
oO0Oo Resident: pretty much just what we are
oO0Oo Resident: and there was enoughness
Eliza Madrigal: _/!\_ ty

oO0Oo Resident: Bruce's recliner sits are kind of permeating my seeing and experiencing ;)
Eliza Madrigal: reclining into Being
oO0Oo Resident: playing with subject/object
Santoshima Resident: laz-i-boi as state of being
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
oO0Oo Resident: hehe
Bleu Oleander: ha!
oO0Oo Resident: a lot can be within... stillness
oO0Oo Resident: *alot
Eliza Madrigal: alot a lot and enough
oO0Oo Resident: and a half
oO0Oo Resident: ;)

Santoshima Resident: bleu, do you think that you will lead a discussion about video, as you had mentioned in an email recently?
Santoshima Resident: or workshop?
oO0Oo Resident: or make a series of videos on how to make videos :))))
Santoshima Resident: :)
Bleu Oleander: sure, I would be happy to impart any words of wisdom
Santoshima Resident: that would be wonderful
Eliza Madrigal would *love* that but takes it she would have to invest in a mac... ?
Santoshima Resident: really?
Bleu Oleander: pc's make good movies too
Santoshima Resident: is that so?
Santoshima Resident: yeah
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, thought you said it needed certain programs
Eliza Madrigal: to learn your way

Bleu Oleander: btw, there's some great art at the final UWA challenge
Santoshima Resident: where is that?
Santoshima Resident: what is that?
Eliza Madrigal: thanks Bleu
Santoshima Resident: thanks
Bleu Oleander: University of Western Autralia
oO0Oo Resident: ty
Bleu Oleander: they have had a monthly art contest
Santoshima Resident: excellent
Bleu Oleander: for the last year

--BELL--

Bleu Oleander: their video contest deadline is Nov 10 ... so you all have time :)
Bleu Oleander: I've submitted 3
Eliza Madrigal: haha... better get started this second :)
Bleu Oleander: http://uwainsl.blogspot.com/
oO0Oo Resident: clicks :)
Bleu Oleander: http://uwainsl.blogspot.com/2011/06/...iv-art-of.html
Bleu Oleander: for the videos you have to use one of the art pieces submitted during the year
oO0Oo Resident: Cool

Bleu Oleander: it was fun working with the artists
Eliza Madrigal: extensive judges list.... impressive involvement
oO0Oo Resident: UWA seems to have a good SL thing going
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: they're promoting the arts in sl
Santoshima Resident: very good
oO0Oo Resident: Wow, hope you win that prize Bleu
oO0Oo Resident: ::roots for Bleu::
Eliza Madrigal: ::::adds rooting energy too:::::
Bleu Oleander: well I'm just the new kid in a group of very talented artists
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Bleu Oleander: hehe Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: team Bleu
Bleu Oleander: haha
oO0Oo Resident: Rah! Rah! ::wears pom-poms::

Bleu Oleander: btw, I have another Art of Being project in mind
Eliza Madrigal: oh my
oO0Oo Resident: bright eyes
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: ready to give hints?
Eliza Madrigal: so we can start percolating?
oO0Oo Resident: ears perk
Bleu Oleander: actually about identity
Eliza Madrigal: perkolating
oO0Oo Resident: hehe
oO0Oo Resident: snapolating
Eliza Madrigal: hmm, timely

Bleu Oleander: I'll wait until after the theater event maybe?
Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
Bleu Oleander: don't want to wear everyone out
oO0Oo Resident: Theater event?
Bleu Oleander: yes the Molecule Theater
oO0Oo Resident: feels i should know something I do not
oO0Oo Resident: oh?
Santoshima Resident: not advertised yet

Bleu Oleander: we've had two events so far
Bleu Oleander: and the next one is in December
Bleu Oleander: want to participate?

oO0Oo Resident: ah .. ok
Santoshima Resident: in what way?
Bleu Oleander: writing, acting, set design ....
oO0Oo Resident: is there a description somewhere
oO0Oo Resident: ?
Santoshima Resident: maybe
oO0Oo Resident: or theme rather

Eliza Madrigal: yes I wondered if there'd be a group note soon... this one will be so fun to part of
Eliza Madrigal: :) others too, but :)
Bleu Oleander: http://kira.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=182&Itemid=209
oO0Oo Resident: clicking

Bleu Oleander: I did a video on the theater at the bottom of that wiki page
Eliza Madrigal: I didn't know about this page at Kira... fantastic that you/Storm added it there
Santoshima Resident: yes, very enjoyable ;)
Bleu Oleander: Storm did the page
Bleu Oleander: after the theater was listed on the sl website

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: :) I need to get to bed...
Bleu Oleander: yes, late for you
oO0Oo Resident: :) Night Eliza "May you get all the rest you need"
Bleu Oleander: I need to check out too
Eliza Madrigal: thanks so much guys :) we should go ahead and plan your workshop Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: sure, anytime
oO0Oo Resident: Thanks for the links and wisdom Bleu :)
Eliza Madrigal: Aw :) Ty ooO0Ooo
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you all
Eliza Madrigal: and to you all as well
Santoshima Resident: g'nite
Bleu Oleander: take care bye bye
oO0Oo Resident: That's me too. Need to run some errands. :) Take care all . Bye santoshima
Eliza Madrigal: Night :)

Santoshima Resident: hi Stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Santos
stevenaia Michinaga: how are you?
Santoshima Resident: am just on IM, a moment ~ i'm good, you?
stevenaia Michinaga: ok
stevenaia Michinaga: I had a nice day
Santoshima Resident: that's good
Santoshima Resident: trying to see whether susan wil join us
stevenaia Michinaga: shall we continue the recording?
Santoshima Resident: no, please not