2011.01.28 07:00 - Lively Up Yourself

The guardian for this session was Eliza Madrigal, who posted this log from the PlayasBeing New Orleans retreat! :) Alternatively titled:

"I think I Need Community"

Ana Hinchcliffe: bye
Bleu Oleander: bye those leaving
Jan Qualia: bye to leavers
SophiaSharon Larnia: I want to stay but have to go back to work now :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Sharon, glad you could pop in
Jan Qualia: give me link Pema?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: bye Sharon
Eliza Madrigal: Ana, tell me about the memorial?
SophiaSharon Larnia: wanted to hear frim the new orleans retreater!
Jan Qualia: bye Sharon
SophiaSharon Larnia: +s
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Sharon, nice to connect and wave
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye for now
Ana Hinchcliffe: it is a memorial for those who commit suicide or are murderer because they are transgerder
Ana Hinchcliffe: murdered
Eliza Madrigal: ah, thanks... not sure too many know of that... wonderful that SL can allow people to create a place like that...
Ana Hinchcliffe: i talked to a woman who is a transgender.
Ana Hinchcliffe: she had her female part removed
Ana Hinchcliffe: and received injections of testoterone
Ana Hinchcliffe: still, she is a woman
Ana Hinchcliffe: Transgender Hate Crime and Suicide Memorial
Eliza Madrigal: thank you
Ana Hinchcliffe: that'sthe right name of the memorial
Jan Qualia: start to wonder how you define 'woman' then
Ana Hinchcliffe: i have the land if you wnat
Eliza Madrigal: sure, thanks
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi riddle
Pema Pera: hi Riddle!
Bleu Oleander: hi Riddle
Jan Qualia: Hi Riddle
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Riddle :))
Riddle Sideways: Hi Jan, Ana, Bleu, Yak, Eliza, Pema
Eliza Madrigal: dazzling as always
Jan Qualia: ty Ana
Riddle Sideways: ty
Ana Hinchcliffe: after hearing this woman..
Riddle Sideways: :)
Ana Hinchcliffe: i don't now how to define woman
Eliza Madrigal: people are so incredibly individual...
Bleu Oleander: don't we all define it differently?
Ana Hinchcliffe: all I know is that what they suffer is inhuman
Ana Hinchcliffe: someone asked how to define
Jan Qualia: society is so harsh on those who are different
Pema Pera is quietly slipping out . . . .
Ana Hinchcliffe: [07:04] Jan Qualia: start to wonder how you define 'woman' then
Bleu Oleander: we all fall into that "different" category
Pema Pera: (good seeing you all)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Pema, thanks :)
Bleu Oleander: bye Pema
Riddle Sideways: bye Pema
Eliza Madrigal: Ana, yes the context is important too...
Jan Qualia: bye Pema
Ana Hinchcliffe: bye Pema
Eliza Madrigal: the context of the conversation was "nothing is missing"
Ana Hinchcliffe: sorry
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, not at all...
Eliza Madrigal: we were musing on, if nothing is missing,
Eliza Madrigal: then how would that express itself... would we be caught in any role?
Eliza Madrigal: gender or otherwise?
Eliza Madrigal: and if not...
Eliza Madrigal: what does that mean?
Eliza Madrigal: Or at least that seemed the question to me
Eliza Madrigal: so your experience is quite relevant...
Eliza Madrigal: a sense of people changing or fixing things...
Eliza Madrigal: which may be an expression of perfection
Bleu Oleander: it means to me that we can "play as if" but always realizing it is play
Yakuzza Lethecus: in order to play we have to switch off our thinking mind ?
Eliza Madrigal: or may be a struggling for validation
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: I like 'suspend' too, Ya...
Bleu Oleander: maybe by playing we lighten the load over time
Eliza Madrigal nods Bleu.
Yakuzza Lethecus: thoughts on needs are dominant in my daily thiking, even how to gain the ability to communicate ,,not needing anything"
Eliza Madrigal: Eos has been singing "lighten up yourself" a lot this week
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Riddle Sideways: Hi Sun and Lugh
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi sun and lugh
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Riddle ;)
Eliza Madrigal: so we play as if nothing is missing and allow ourselves to be surprised
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lugh, and Hi Sunshine :))
Lugh Fehr: hellow people :)
Bleu Oleander: take care everyone .... bye for now :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu
Jan Qualia: Hi Lugh, Sunshine
Lugh Fehr: byebye bleu
Eliza Madrigal: speaking of enlightenment....
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu :))
Riddle Sideways: by blu
Jan Qualia: bye Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: another wild and wonderful presentation Lugh!!
Lugh Fehr: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i always fear that in play as just being i just let go and drift through my habits but when i don´t like the habits i have i don´t like to just do so
Yakuzza Lethecus: my rational mind tells me in which direction i should change my habits
Jan Qualia: just seeing is often enough....
Eliza Madrigal: !
Eliza Madrigal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDnNq...E&feature=fvst
Yakuzza Lethecus: not availibble in germany
Lugh Fehr: yeey
Eliza Madrigal: ah, you may want to google bob marley "lively up yourself"
Eliza Madrigal: Sometimes the imagery I have is of holding the rational thinking in a much larger pool....
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Corvi :))
Eliza Madrigal: (sorry bell)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey corvi
Riddle Sideways: wow yak, germany bans Bob Marley?
Eliza Madrigal: so it (the rational thinking) is there, but it isn't seen as the point
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi everyone
Jan Qualia: Hi Corvi
Riddle Sideways: Hi Corv
Lugh Fehr: hey cor
Eliza Madrigal: it is just 'one thing' in a million resources
Jan Qualia: I got it ok
Yakuzza Lethecus: riddle it containted content of ,,UMG" so it´s because of copyright
Jan Qualia: am 'livelying up myself
Lugh Fehr: what we need is an art form to change our habbits and it would be very nice
Eliza Madrigal: the lyrics of this song say 'don't be no drag'
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: we're dropping the drag
Jan Qualia: thought I put it on :)
Riddle Sideways: wb sun
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sunshine! Welcome back :)) We are jamming to Bob Marley and livening up ourselves... hehe
Sunshine Vayandar: omg really
Eliza Madrigal: YES
Lugh Fehr: wb sun hehe
Sunshine Vayandar: I am back from the bush
Sunshine Vayandar: my fav song to play on the guitar
Eliza Madrigal: seems appropriate for your arrival since you and I were enlightened together the other day, haha
Sunshine Vayandar: exactly
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) that was a bright day
Eliza Madrigal: :) You play guitar too?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: can one have enlightenment parties?
Riddle Sideways: enlighten up yerself
Corvuscorva Nightfire: in celebration!
Lugh Fehr: hehee cool howd did you do that
Eliza Madrigal: YES!!
Lugh Fehr: ?
Eliza Madrigal: love that idea Corvi...
Jan Qualia: you don't need them any more :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: that is truly playing as if nothing is missing
Corvuscorva Nightfire: hehee
Eliza Madrigal: celerating what is
Eliza Madrigal: what is here
Sunshine Vayandar: enlightenment parties?
Eliza Madrigal: and one another in that :)
Eliza Madrigal: as that :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hi everyone ;)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: heya
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: was waiting for my hair ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: and rest of body
Jan Qualia: we're discussing this at Wok next week
Sunshine Vayandar: yes I am looking forward to that
Eliza Madrigal: yes? Missed yesterday... though nothing is missing...
Jan Qualia: :)
Jan Qualia: you lost a day?
Sunshine Vayandar: it was my first time there
Corvuscorva Nightfire: misplaced one?
Eliza Madrigal: when we say namaste, we're basically celebrating one another's 'enlightenment'
Jan Qualia: didn't know that
Eliza Madrigal: well, it can be "I honor the divine in your"
Jan Qualia: I'm Zen's alt in case anyone doesn't know
Lugh Fehr: hey zen
Jan Qualia: his cuter side
Jan Qualia: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Ana Hinchcliffe: thank you all. I have to go.
Ana Hinchcliffe: ã‹¡
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Ana ;)
Jan Qualia: bye Ana
Yakuzza Lethecus: take care ana
Eliza Madrigal: I'm going to have to go in a moment, as we begin our 'practice session' of the retreat in just a few minutes...
Lugh Fehr: byebye an
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Ana, thanks for coming and sharing
Lugh Fehr: byebye
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye, Eliza
Sunshine Vayandar: nice to catch you here Eliza
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye ana
Jan Qualia: bye Eliza
Sunshine Vayandar: have a great session
Eliza Madrigal: So wonderful to 'see' everyone
Jan Qualia: have a good practice
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, have a great session retreaters
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks :) BIG HUGS from New Orleans!!
Sunshine Vayandar: hugs back from africa ;)
Riddle Sideways: bye bye to New Orleans
Sunshine Vayandar: Jan so you are Zen - who was there yesterday?
Jan Qualia: Zen was
Sunshine Vayandar: at 2pm
Sunshine Vayandar: to me everyone is new
Riddle Sideways: to me too
Jan Qualia: I met you at perfect paradise the other sunday
Jan Qualia: Bertram#s meditation
Sunshine Vayandar: ohhh kkk
Jan Qualia: as Zen
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: nice to see ppl in other sims
Jan Qualia: trying life as a young woman
Sunshine Vayandar: can't see u
Jan Qualia: why?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: welcome, Jan.
Sunshine Vayandar: brb phone
Corvuscorva Nightfire: to life as a young woman
Jan Qualia: thanks Corvi
Jan Qualia: am settling into it well :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: smiles.
Riddle Sideways: zen is the av the conjurs the typed words. Jan is the one that 'la de da's her typing :)
Jan Qualia: yes - I'm pretty cool
Yakuzza Lethecus: my mind always seems to seek for ,,not completeness" it´s hard to get out of that pattern and not to see ,,problems"
Lugh Fehr: hehehe
--BELL--
Jan Qualia: maybe it is if you think it is
Riddle Sideways: yes yak, we all sort of do that
Sunshine Vayandar: brb
Riddle Sideways: big point , is to reverse the thinking. we know nothing is missing, but we play hunting the missing
Riddle Sideways: take the whole apart to look at the parts
Jan Qualia: a feeling of 'something is wrong with me'
Riddle Sideways: do that so often it becomes home
Lugh Fehr: :) we should turn that into a science
Riddle Sideways: :) too late, it already is sci
Jan Qualia: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: back ;) I am tring to see if I can see better
Jan Qualia: I can see you perfectly
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Riddle Sideways: knowing there is nothing wrong or missing is hard. so we play that we are not
Riddle Sideways: whole and concentrate on little parts
Jan Qualia: maybe it needs a more proactive approach
Jan Qualia: like practicing the lojong slogans
Jan Qualia: sometimes I pick one and think of it during the day
Sunshine Vayandar: lojong slogans?
Jan Qualia: like ;Be grateful to everyone'
Sunshine Vayandar: sounds like a plan
Riddle Sideways: sometimes put it into a song and sing it all day
Jan Qualia: http://lojongmindtraining.com/
Sunshine Vayandar: ty Jan ;)
Riddle Sideways: that song that is stuck in your head
Sunshine Vayandar: or like "lively up yourself - don't be no draaag "
Riddle Sideways: yes
Jan Qualia: yes - that too :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Riddle Sideways: sing that all day and the world WILL be different
Lugh Fehr: like the roll roll roll you bought thing
Sunshine Vayandar: looks very interesting Jan
Sunshine Vayandar: that website
Jan Qualia: Tibetan buddhism seems to use more practices than Zen
Jan Qualia: Zen seems more about just sitting and seeing
Riddle Sideways: after you practice and practice is it time to play (yet)
Jan Qualia: some are about play :)
Lugh Fehr: practise is part of play :)
Jan Qualia: there's one about lightening up
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Riddle Sideways: does it have a good beat?
Jan Qualia: :)
Lugh Fehr: maby the old europron incantatitons where like the slogens but then lost their meaning in time
Lugh Fehr: like abracatabra
Lugh Fehr: be gone
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Lugh Fehr: like the bell in pavolos dog thig
Jan Qualia: I don't know
Jan Qualia: and that is the best way
Lugh Fehr: but thats like being constantly at sea whitout ever thouching land
Jan Qualia: yes
Riddle Sideways: yeah, you got it
Sunshine Vayandar: what do u mean Lugh
Jan Qualia: groundlessness
Sunshine Vayandar: never in control?
Lugh Fehr: yeah but the land is butiful too
Lugh Fehr: why leave altogethr why not build a summer home
Jan Qualia: think so Sun
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Riddle Sideways: control is overrated
Jan Qualia: build a little secure spot Lugh?
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm yes
Lugh Fehr: you can creat a good dream and dream it and then stop for a while but youl need to knoow how to create and amend dreams
Jan Qualia: life is always changing
Sunshine Vayandar: once you are at sea - there is no coming back hmm or is there
Lugh Fehr: not secure
Jan Qualia: everything is changing
--BELL--
Jan Qualia: so no security
Riddle Sideways: one thought is you can never go home
Lugh Fehr: a little less intense vivs its a question of taste some like only coffe some like only sugar some like both
Riddle Sideways: another thought is you can go anywhere
Sunshine Vayandar: I like that more Riddle ;)
Jan Qualia: maybe everything is a dream
Riddle Sideways: oops did not hear beel
Lugh Fehr: i thinck haveing like a yoga but for the mind is very good for humans
Jan Qualia: http://lojongmindtraining.com/Commen...or=3&proverb=2
Riddle Sideways: Jan, that is exactly what has been happening this week
Riddle Sideways: dreams, dreams, everything is a dream
Jan Qualia: at the retreat?
Riddle Sideways: don't like nightmares, so change them
Riddle Sideways: no, just in riddle's realm
Lugh Fehr: yes exectly riffle
Jan Qualia: or realize they are just thoughts
Riddle Sideways: same
Sunshine Vayandar: "That's the essential meaning of the absolute Bodhicitta slogans - to connect with the open, spacious quality of your mind, so that you can see that there's no need to shut down and make such a big deal about everything."
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Jan Qualia: yes !
Sunshine Vayandar: it's like that video yesterday
Jan Qualia: yes that too
Sunshine Vayandar: about the couple making such a drama
Riddle Sideways: which yesterday
Sunshine Vayandar: about the shop not being open
Jan Qualia: about the shop not being open
Sunshine Vayandar: and then they dropped it
Jan Qualia: snap
Sunshine Vayandar: and it was all gone
Jan Qualia: :)
Lugh Fehr: its like we have this butiful tv but no remote
Lugh Fehr: 1 channel
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe ;)
Jan Qualia: have to throw away the remote
Riddle Sideways: :) yes that may be it
Lugh Fehr: why?
Jan Qualia: stuck in Channel 1
Riddle Sideways: two good ways of thinking
Jan Qualia: because you will never find anything satisfying if you channel hop
Sunshine Vayandar: interesting how one can put it in so many different ways
Riddle Sideways: and you are stuck if only 1
Jan Qualia: yes ''if only'....
Lugh Fehr: but i like channle hoping besides i choose to stay on 1 chennle for hrs
Jan Qualia: ok Lugh
Lugh Fehr: well its a question of taste
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods. Fox newss
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Corvuscorva Nightfire shudders
Jan Qualia: if we really do stay with one channel and really pay attention to it...
Riddle Sideways: all the channels are there. none are missing. watch just one
Riddle Sideways: or not
Jan Qualia: it will have everything we need...
Corvuscorva Nightfire finds enlightenment quick, Fox News being what it is.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: she switches off the set.
Jan Qualia: yes switch it off altogether :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: my mind tries to define ,,what i really need"
Yakuzza Lethecus: actually the search for what i really need is a grasp
Corvuscorva Nightfire: nothing like motivation
Yakuzza Lethecus: so i already have everything is contradicting with my motivator
Jan Qualia: what we really need is ....nothing
Riddle Sideways: ah, "Developing enlightment situation, stay tuned"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: giggles.
Sunshine Vayandar: I think it's good to see which are the times when one feels completely happy - nothing mising ...
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Jan Qualia: :)
Lugh Fehr: but how can a person live whitout a mind?
Lugh Fehr: its inbuilt
Jan Qualia: is rthat enlightenment - when we feel we need nothing?
Lugh Fehr: its like living whotout a nervious systemm of somthing or no lungs
Sunshine Vayandar: what is it really hmm
Jan Qualia: is it Lugh?
Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i need community even to learn to communicate about my thoughts and my dreams
Lugh Fehr: yes i thinck its dry
Lugh Fehr: too silente
Yakuzza Lethecus: sl provides me with those even tho that i consider me a learner of how other ppl are able to reflect themselves
Lugh Fehr: sielnt is also good its a good break from mind
Jan Qualia: but you are community
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye Jan
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes and i think it´s what i need i am not complete alone
Riddle Sideways: I need to go be by myself with others now
Riddle Sideways: thank you all
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye Riddle
Jan Qualia: alone with others
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Riddle ;)
Jan Qualia: bye all
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye riddle
Jan Qualia: thanks for discussion
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye jan
Lugh Fehr: byebye
--BELL--
Sunshine Vayandar: bye Jan
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
Lugh Fehr: byebye
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye all
Sunshine Vayandar: bye ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: so many byes ;p