2011.10.23 01:00 - Lojong and the 99 Days

Wol Euler: hello berti

Bertram Jacobus: a lonely wol !

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: how are you this morning?

Bertram Jacobus: ty. fine so far - how are you ? :-)

Wol Euler: hungry :) woke up too late, haven't had breakvast yet

Wol Euler: not even coffee!

Wol Euler sobs

Bertram Jacobus: did you hear or even see (about) this one perhaps ? : http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitr...6/Login-2-Life

Wol Euler: oh yes, but I missed it :((((((

Wol Euler: first heard about it *after* it aired

Bertram Jacobus: but here you can see it ! :-)

Wol Euler: and I can't get it to play ---- ah, let me try again

Bertram Jacobus: i have so many players on my computer lol

Bertram Jacobus: so i can see nearly everything ;-)

Bertram Jacobus: but ... no coffee yet and no breakfast - that is hard !

Bertram Jacobus: don't you wanna take / eat something then, now, perhaps ?

Wol Euler: oh wow (it works)

Wol Euler: ty

Bertram Jacobus: good :-)

Bertram Jacobus: i think i will watch it afterwards

Wol Euler: yeah, just paused it :)

Bertram Jacobus: and miralee from perfect paradise said "a friend of her" had made that movie (!?) -

Wol Euler: okay, coffeemachine has stopped rattling, brb

Bertram Jacobus: great ! :-)

Bertram Jacobus: can i say that ? : i grant you your coffee and breakfast so very much ! (?) :-)

Wol Euler: awwww <3

Bertram Jacobus: :-)

Wol Euler: coffee yes, but for now only a Mozartkugel for breakfast :)

Bertram Jacobus laughs

Wol Euler: what? as if you don't have Mozartkugel too :)

Bertram Jacobus: ehm - no : that was a happy laughter

Wol Euler: just making a joke :)

Bertram Jacobus: because i think, that is a really nice breakfast or starting the day : coffee and mozartkugel(n) ! ;-)

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: only one :) I allow myself one a day

Bertram Jacobus: and i had some, sure. i'm german. i know them. but they are ... a bit luxury ...

Wol Euler: otherwise I'd eat them all within an hour

Bertram Jacobus: hehe. you have that 100 package of them ? ;-)

Wol Euler: ha! no

Bertram Jacobus giggles

Wol Euler: that would be too much

Wol Euler: but I will admit that I looked for it

Wol Euler grins.

Bertram Jacobus: would last for a bit more then 3 month *g*

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: oh!

Wol Euler: if I had known that, I could have tied it in to the 99 days thing

Wol Euler: still wouldn't have kept me going during the last two weeks on site :/

Wol Euler: ah well

Bertram Jacobus: 99 days thing ? what is that ?

Wol Euler: an idea that came up in Halifax, which started on the wiki on september 1

 

 

Wol Euler: every day, for 99 days (100 actually but we love 9's)

Wol Euler: do a meditation (or something else) that you wish to make into a habit

Wol Euler: and write a comment about it on the wiki

Bertram Jacobus: ah. sounds very good

Wol Euler: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Classes_and_Sessions/The_99_Days_project

Bertram Jacobus: or must i write very well ?

Wol Euler: nah

Wol Euler: of course not

Wol Euler: it's not about writing, it's about doing

Bertram Jacobus: ah. nice ! :-)

Bertram Jacobus: sure. that was a misunderstanding. but now understood here ;-)

Wol Euler smiles.

Bertram Jacobus: did i mention, that i start taking part with a buddhist so called dharma class ? it will be for between 1 and 3 years and i chose the lodjong class - mind training. while that time a practise, one hour every day, must be done amongst other learnings, weekends, some weeks of classes etc

Wol Euler: that would be perfect as an exercise for the 99 days

Wol Euler: if you wanted to join up

Wol Euler: just write something about how it went htat day, how you felt, insights or problems that came up etc

Bertram Jacobus: i see. every day ?

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: ideally

Bertram Jacobus: from the 18th of november on ? (then it starts)

Wol Euler: oh, I see, I thought you were already doing it

Wol Euler: but yes, sure, there will be a second 99 day cycle

Wol Euler: so join in whenever you wish

Bertram Jacobus: no. sry. may be i expressed that wrongly -

Wol Euler: today, even :)

Bertram Jacobus: today ? another 99 day circle starts ?

Wol Euler: no, we are on day 52

Wol Euler: but you can join at any time, any old day you wish

Wol Euler: no need to wait for the next Day 1

Bertram Jacobus: ah. i see. cool. then i could start at november 18th ?

Wol Euler: sure

Bertram Jacobus: interesting ... and do we all write in own sections or do we fill a day section together or how dioes that work ? (okay - may be i can look at the site you gave me the link for and see then)

Wol Euler: yep :)

Wol Euler: see for yourself :)

Wol Euler: it's easier than you probably think, there is no structure

Wol Euler: really simple: do something, feel or see or think something while you do it, write a little about that

Wol Euler: Aph is painting every day, writes about what she painted

Wol Euler: Eden writes a haiku every day

Wol Euler: Pema is doing something typically Pema-ish: he reads the comments and picks one activity or thought that somebody had, which he then does himself on the next day

Bertram Jacobus: hehe. sounds nice again

Wol Euler: good :)

Wol Euler: tell me more about the dharma class please?

Bertram Jacobus: a totally different question : how is your work actually ? - and yes : i'll tell

Wol Euler: you first :)

Bertram Jacobus: it's about the so called lodjong / mind training. there are about 50 + sentences / advices how we can practise to get rid of our delusions

Bertram Jacobus: and our teachers say

Bertram Jacobus: these classes are created to integrate buddhisms more into western every day structure

Bertram Jacobus: very good to make a commitment to practise for a longer time period

Bertram Jacobus: so one could get deeper into the topics even with our daily profane duties we normally have in the west

--BELL--

Wol Euler nods.

Bertram Jacobus: buddhism still serachs for his forms and structures in the west i would say but is on a very good path with it - (ready so far, if you have more questions about it, pls ask. so i can answer more specifically)

Wol Euler: I was reading the wikipedia about Lojong (english spelling) during the pause

Bertram Jacobus: ah nice

Wol Euler: (for the log http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojong )

Bertram Jacobus: there are also in german different spellings - lojong or lodjong

Wol Euler: I recognize some of that from early days of PaB :)

Wol Euler: "Find the consciousness you had before you were born." is someting Pema said to Adams when she was having difficulty

Bertram Jacobus: hmmm -

Bertram Jacobus: i personally am not sure whether there was something before we were born. i mean individually

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: but yes, agreed. I think it's meant as a koan, something to think about, not necessarily to agree with

Bertram Jacobus: i come more and to the idea that there was nothing and will not be as well. but for most, such ideas seem to be too disappointing (?)

Wol Euler: brb, need my inhaler

Bertram Jacobus: inhaler ? why is that ? asthma ? caught a cold ?

Bertram Jacobus: and koan is really nice

Wol Euler: bronchitis (nearly gone now)

Bertram Jacobus: to stop / break the terrifying thought chain(s) ! :o)

Wol Euler: yep

Bertram Jacobus: ah. good ! :-) (nearly gone) :-)

Wol Euler: Slogan 53. Don't vacillate. Slogan 54. Train wholeheartedly. Slogan 55. Liberate yourself by examining and analyzing. Slogan 56. Don't wallow in self-pity.

Wol Euler: (wikipedia)

Wol Euler: some of this speaks directly to me :)

Bertram Jacobus: yes. i looked it up in one of my books. very nice and helpful

Bertram Jacobus: we did kontemplate slogan nr. 4 today, s a t i a and i

Bertram Jacobus: this morning. meditating

Wol Euler: Slogan 4. Self-liberate even the antidote.

Wol Euler smiles.

Bertram Jacobus: yes ! and wrote about it. what it means

Wol Euler: "be moderate in all things, even in moderation itself"

Wol Euler: that would be an excellent way to take part in 99 Days!

Wol Euler: and feel free to write in German if that is easier

Bertram Jacobus: wow - okay ! may be i'll ask you again for some technical details when 18th of november comes nearer

Wol Euler: sure :)

 

 

Bertram Jacobus: i'll go and watch the movie now - ty vm for the nice sunday morning talk wol ! :-)

Wol Euler: my pleasure, it's nice to see you here again Bertram

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: take care, enjoy the day

Bertram Jacobus: ty ... :-)

Bertram Jacobus: and same same :-)