2011.10.30 01:00 - Berty hatte einen Traum

Wol Euler was guardian for this session.

Wol Euler: hello arch
Archmage Atlantis: Hello Wol
Archmage Atlantis: I have this pla,
Wol Euler listens.
Archmage Atlantis: If I claim enough sessions, ppl will get mad at my version, and come back
Wol Euler: hmmmm
Wol Euler: an interesting theory
Archmage Atlantis: German you are
Wol Euler: I have become german in attitude, yes
Wol Euler: in many things
Archmage Atlantis: American I am
Archmage Atlantis: We throw the spaghetti
Archmage Atlantis: If it sticks
Archmage Atlantis: then it is done
Wol Euler laughs.
Archmage Atlantis: (and no, I do not ......or maybe I do.....I choose to admiti)
Archmage Atlantis: Maybe in the future we come back
Wol Euler: reincarnation? or time travel?
Wol Euler: hello boxy
Alfred Kelberry: wait, what?
Alfred Kelberry: woly girl?! :)
Alfred Kelberry: hi, archy
Wol Euler: [01:03] Arch (archmage.atlantis): Maybe in the future we come back
Archmage Atlantis: The legend of the holy gril, boxy?
Alfred Kelberry: it's nice to see a girl with a naked belly and in leather in the morning :)
Wol Euler grins.
Alfred Kelberry: could be, archy
Archmage Atlantis: agree. A;fred
Alfred Kelberry: oh, i forgot...
Alfred Kelberry: guten morning, wollien
Wol Euler: ah :) guten morgen, lieber boxy
Alfred Kelberry: mmm, ja ja
Archmage Atlantis: guten morgen alles
Wol Euler: *allen
Wol Euler: because we are people, not things
Archmage Atlantis: The thing that Stargate is becomming
Alfred Kelberry: what's the "well" analog in german?
Alfred Kelberry: as in "well, i think..."
Wol Euler waits for Arch to finish that thought.
Wol Euler: hello xir
Alfred Kelberry: xira cruz! :)
Xirana Oximoxi: good morning all :)
Alfred Kelberry: xiri, are you coming to germany in december? :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hi boxy!! :)
Xirana Oximoxi: where and when??? :)
Alfred Kelberry: berlin, dec 3-4
Alfred Kelberry: woly, what about "well"?
Wol Euler is still waiting for Arch to finish his thought
Alfred Kelberry: huh?
Xirana Oximoxi: oh... and where can I find more information?
Alfred Kelberry: i think this thought is long gone and repalced by new ones :)

Still trying to ensure that this meeting actually happens, by trying to get Boxy to take responsibility for it.

Wol Euler: boxy is the organizer, he can tell you directly.
Alfred Kelberry: xiri, from me :)
Xirana Oximoxi: ah!! ok:) I will ask you later:)
Alfred Kelberry: i do *not* organize
Archmage Atlantis: There is no finish to thought
Alfred Kelberry: archy, kind of true
Alfred Kelberry: again, context dependent
Archmage Atlantis: Siddhartha was the first recorded
Alfred Kelberry: so, what about "well" in german, woly?
Wol Euler waits for Arch to *continue expressing* his thought, then :)
Wol Euler: boxy, you'd probably say "also ....."
Xirana Oximoxi listens :)
Alfred Kelberry: time to drop it, woly :)
Alfred Kelberry: also?
Wol Euler: it will be time when arch drops it, boxy. have a tiny bit of patience and understanding
Wol Euler: yep, also
Wol Euler: "also, ich glaube daß ......"
Wol Euler: or perhaps "nun, ich glaube ,....."

--BELL--

Alfred Kelberry: xiri, any lang courses today?
Xirana Oximoxi: yep. German at Goehte institut :) at the same time..11 SLT...20CET...but, as we have dchanged time today It is always confusing
Alfred Kelberry: ah, nothing in the morning?
Xirana Oximoxi: so, not sure if the tutorin (Layla) willbe there at CET or SLT :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: is she german?
Archmage Atlantis: Over the rainbow......Jim Brickman......Unspoken
Xirana Oximoxi: in the morning I don't know about any language course:)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, she is german:)
Alfred Kelberry: she's got a cute voice :)
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe yes:)) very nice voice:)
Alfred Kelberry: sounds rather young
Wol Euler: oh, you're right!
Xirana Oximoxi: welll probably she is:)
Wol Euler: it's 9am heheheh
Archmage Atlantis: Hello Bert
Alfred Kelberry: woly is lost in time! :)
Alfred Kelberry: where?
Alfred Kelberry: can't see berty
Xirana Oximoxi: me either:)
Alfred Kelberry: false alarm
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Alfred Kelberry: we've been visited by the ghost of berty
Wol Euler: hallo berti
Alfred Kelberry: berty!
Archmage Atlantis: Tis the time of all Hallows
Bertram Jacobus: good morning friends :-)
Xirana Oximoxi: here he is!!! hello Bert:)
Alfred Kelberry: archy, you can predict the future
Xirana Oximoxi: haha
Alfred Kelberry: tell us, who's coming next?
Bertram Jacobus: hehe - "he is" ? - why is that ? :-)
Alfred Kelberry: he said that you'll be coming
Bertram Jacobus: wow - in which way did boxy do that ? wow - i guess now ... :-9
Xirana Oximoxi: Arch has guessed you were coming..:)
Bertram Jacobus: coooool :-))
Alfred Kelberry: and in a minute you appear
Bertram Jacobus: may be he saw me in his radar ... ;o)
Alfred Kelberry: no, i dismiss it
Alfred Kelberry: i want to believe
Bertram Jacobus: probably destroying a myth (?) ... ;o)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Love and Blessings.......Paul Simon,,
Bertram Jacobus: that's it : many don´t like it when their myths are destroyed ... hm -
Alfred Kelberry: do you think there are people who can predict the future? for real
Archmage Atlantis: named aftter a first prophet
Bertram Jacobus: may i say, that i think, that i prefere to know ? ...
Alfred Kelberry: yes, please
Bertram Jacobus: ty. and about predicting : i don't know ...
Xirana Oximoxi: I don't think so, boxy... maybe the intuition can work sometimes, but not to predict anything seriously
Archmage Atlantis: Agree Xirana
Archmage Atlantis: Still
Alfred Kelberry: that would be neat though

Bertram's dream.

Bertram Jacobus: once i had a strange dream : i stood on a bridge and took a view along a small river, trees on right and left side and a few days later i was at a place, which looked exactly like that and i remebered : i had dreamed that (!) - i was astonished ... and had never been at that place before ...
Archmage Atlantis: Joshua fought the battle
Xirana Oximoxi: I would not like anyone to know what my future can be:)
Alfred Kelberry: berty :)
Bertram Jacobus: :-)
Wol Euler: wow
Bertram Jacobus: :-)
Alfred Kelberry: yes, how do you call it? prophetic dream?
Wol Euler nods.

--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: science is a tool.......vision is a dream
Bertram Jacobus: dream dream dreaam dreaam dreaam - there is a song with that - i don't remember what it was / is ... google could help perhaps ...

It was "All I have to do is dream" by the Everly Brothers. You're welcome.

Bertram Jacobus: and enlightened / buddhahood means awakened (!) ...
Bertram Jacobus: amongst other meanings ...
Xirana Oximoxi: I suppose when you have such a dream and then you find yourself in the real ... must be shocking and makes you think a lot about the possiility of preview things
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: how did you react, bert?
Archmage Atlantis: accept that thought, Xirana
Bertram Jacobus: that's right in a way xirana : i was - as written before - really astonished and yes : it's in my mind since that experience and i try to sort it so to say in my inventory of experiences - not an easy task (!) ... ;-)
Alfred Kelberry: berty sägen ein traum
Alfred Kelberry: i think
Wol Euler laughs.
Wol Euler: "sägen" means "to saw (cut up)"
Alfred Kelberry: meh
Alfred Kelberry: Ö=
Wol Euler: machine translation has a long way to go!
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe boxy...you must study a lot before going to Berlin!! :)))
Bertram Jacobus: but i think so far that such experiences can happen and happen, but mostly not very often. may be there are people who have that more often and may be one can train to force such experiences. but that would be not so important to me. other things, practising ethics for example, are more priorities to me -
Xirana Oximoxi: and don't try to shorten words... :))
Alfred Kelberry: i'll be fine with english :)
Bertram Jacobus: not sägen - sagen would be right and : berty wird sagen : ein traum :-)
Alfred Kelberry: wird?
Archmage Atlantis: weird
Wol Euler: conditional: he would say
Alfred Kelberry: so, sagen is correct?
Wol Euler: yep
Alfred Kelberry: but sägen is not?
Bertram Jacobus: lol - no wird = part of the future building for third person singular - together with sagen ;-)
Wol Euler: well, that is the infinitive verb form, you modify it for tense and number of people
Bertram Jacobus: wird sagen = will be saying
Alfred Kelberry: ah
Archmage Atlantis: all things are correct within their assuptions
Wol Euler: ah, true, my apologies
Bertram Jacobus: or will say - enogh german lesson now ?
Bertram Jacobus: or not ? :-)
Wol Euler nods to Arch
Alfred Kelberry: say? i wanted to say "see"
Xirana Oximoxi: haha
Bertram Jacobus: see = sehen
Wol Euler: O.O
Bertram Jacobus: lol
Bertram Jacobus: @ wol :-)
Alfred Kelberry: how do you say: berty has seen a dream?
Bertram Jacobus: berty hatte einen traum (without seen)
Wol Euler nods.
Bertram Jacobus: or : berty hat einen traum gesehen (!) ;-)
Alfred Kelberry: ah, has had
Wol Euler: (had rather than saw is also correct in english btw)
Archmage Atlantis: He has been called back
Bertram Jacobus: yes : a call from the universe ! :-)
Archmage Atlantis: To be called back is difficult
Bertram Jacobus: to think about things :-)
Archmage Atlantis: ask this of Stargate
Bertram Jacobus: hmmm arch ... ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: considering ...
Alfred Kelberry: what's difference in einen and eine?
Bertram Jacobus: sometimes strange, odd, weired - is intersting i find
Wol Euler: depends on context, gender, verb tense associated with it ...

--BELL--

Xirana Oximoxi: that can be also a topic..we 'have' dreams..or we 'see' dreams :))?
Alfred Kelberry: or we simply dream :)
Archmage Atlantis: Al, u know, dreams are not simple
Alfred Kelberry: yea
Archmage Atlantis: We walk the walk of dreams
Bertram Jacobus: isn't it very much what we make out of the things ? simple or complex for example ?
Archmage Atlantis: As did the first ppl of Ausie
Bertram Jacobus: i prefere to awake arch !
Xirana Oximoxi: we 'dream' includes 'having' and seeing' so yes, it simplifies the action:)
Alfred Kelberry: yes, projection in a certain context
Alfred Kelberry: the act of seeing a dream is rather simple. you just fall asleep.
Alfred Kelberry: but the inner workings are complicated
Bertram Jacobus: i find, that awakening sometimes is more exhausting and dreaming can be very smooth ... so a big attraction - but also a trap may be
Alfred Kelberry: yea
Alfred Kelberry: especially after a party
Bertram Jacobus: and may be not only projections boxy but even creations (!?) ...
Alfred Kelberry: creation of what?
Bertram Jacobus: of everything ?
Bertram Jacobus: our view = our world ?
Alfred Kelberry: heh, no idea :)
Bertram Jacobus: same here !
Bertram Jacobus: but still trying to figure that out
Archmage Atlantis: That is the point
Archmage Atlantis: We will continue to seek
Bertram Jacobus: what exactly do you mean pls arch ? :-)
Alfred Kelberry: i like the images woly creates in my world
Bertram Jacobus: ah. okay
Archmage Atlantis: We will never know
Wol Euler smiles.
Bertram Jacobus: boxy :-)) ...
Archmage Atlantis: It is us, that we seek
Archmage Atlantis: And it has value
Wol Euler: true
Alfred Kelberry: eventually, it's not creation/projection that matters i think. but our reaction to them.
Bertram Jacobus: i guess there is no lasting we or / and i ...
Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps, that thought pattern we often call God, seeks also
Alfred Kelberry: lasting we?
Bertram Jacobus: the i is only temporary i meant with that boxy. sry for having that expressed unclearly perhaps -
Bertram Jacobus: the god i know is seen diffenrently by the most arch : not seeking ...
Alfred Kelberry: ah, as appearing anew each moment
Alfred Kelberry: thankfully, we keep our memory in transition :)
Archmage Atlantis: I love u Bert........there is another who no longer comes to the circle because we judged him...
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
Alfred Kelberry: who is it?
Archmage Atlantis: Fair question, alfred
Wol Euler: one that need not be answered
Wol Euler: privacy and all that
Bertram Jacobus: but my impression is, boxy, that also such a anewing will end
Alfred Kelberry: ah... right
Archmage Atlantis: I no longer remember his ame
Alfred Kelberry: the logger is watching
Alfred Kelberry: berty, we all die :)
Bertram Jacobus: and here again the topic of being intro- or more rising to me ... (linked with the point arch mentioned) ... extroverted is

--BELL--

Bertram Jacobus: that's it boxy ! but so many think, then something will go on. may be that is a solacing thought (can i use this expression) ?
Xirana Oximoxi: I go now, I wish you all a nice day :)
Bertram Jacobus: bye xirana - same same pls :-)
Wol Euler: bye xir, take care, enjoy your sunday
Xirana Oximoxi: ty:) take care all :)
Bertram Jacobus: hmmm - may be i'll leave as well - accompanying my gf here a bit ... :-)
Archmage Atlantis: Guardian meeting today?
Wol Euler waves. Hello satia!
Wol Euler: as far as I know, yes.
Bertram Jacobus: she rewaves :-)
Wol Euler smiles.
Bertram Jacobus: see you later friends - thank you ! may all beings be happy pls ! :-)
Wol Euler: bye bert, take care
Wol Euler: enjoy the day
Bertram Jacobus: ty :-)
Wol Euler: I think I will move on too
Alfred Kelberry: as for judgment. i think it's worth mentioning that it becomes one (same with fear or what not) when it's perceived this way
Alfred Kelberry: poof
Alfred Kelberry: right on time :)
Alfred Kelberry: ok, auf well, woly :)
Wol Euler: bye boxy, be happy
Wol Euler: see you at the meeting
Alfred Kelberry: if i'll make it
Wol Euler: and if not, then not :)