The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Lucinda Lavender: hi Eos

Eos Amaterasu: Hi Lucinda!
Lucinda Lavender: just looking at viewer 2 as an option...works much better for me
Lucinda Lavender: and am headed out in 2 minutes to rehearsal
Eos Amaterasu: ah.... enjoy rehearsal
Eos Amaterasu: playing as....

--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: :) will do
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Sam
Lucinda Lavender: till later folks...
Eos Amaterasu: Ciao Luci!
Lucinda Lavender: :))
oO0Oo Resident: /\_ Eos , Luci
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos, oO0Oo
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Eliza
oO0Oo Resident: _/\_ Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: There is an occupy wallstreet SL...
Eos Amaterasu: !
Eliza Madrigal: stopped by... empty of people but thought taken with the spot
Eliza Madrigal: will give a LM
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, didn't save the lm but, easy to find via search
oO0Oo Resident: Sure... thanks for pointing it out :)
Eos Amaterasu: "you've got to occupy yourself..." (to the tune of "Lively up Yourself")
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
oO0Oo Resident: "and don't be no lag"
Eliza Madrigal: hah
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: the thought of large-scale, all over the planet just being, just seeing is mindblowing
oO0Oo Resident nods
Eos Amaterasu: Wow, look what happend to druth!
Eliza Madrigal: awwwww
Eos Amaterasu: woof!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Druth :)
druth Vlodovic: meanie :)
druth Vlodovic: hi
druth Vlodovic: what is samud nodding about?
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Druth
Eliza Madrigal pets soft bunny ears
oO0Oo Resident: . Born East Occupy Wall Street (162, 250, 29) Livestream Video from occupations around the U.S. Our government, our media, our politicians have been bought by corporate interests. Our "Democracy" is now a "Corporatocracy". Join us to learn how to peacefully take our country back.
oO0Oo Resident: [except world wide]
Eliza Madrigal: thank you Sam
druth Vlodovic: it would have to be worldwide
Eliza Madrigal: heartening that the wider phenomenon seems to encompass many issues and not necessarily one party line
Eos Amaterasu: holding just openness attracts people below their vocalizations :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eos Amaterasu: also simple grounded statements, photos of faces with handmade signs telling their story
Eos Amaterasu: very grounding
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
Eos Amaterasu: finger touching earth
Eos Amaterasu: #occupy90seconds

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: opportunity here not just to blame but to see and stir
Eos Amaterasu: What do these peopel want, what are their demands, when they are occupying 90 seconds ? :-)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi stevenaia
Eos Amaterasu: bearing witness to what' s important
druth Vlodovic: the problems are both complex and ingrained in our economy and culture
Eliza Madrigal: yes
druth Vlodovic: simple demands are likely to be divisive and ineffective
Eos Amaterasu: hi Stevenaia
druth Vlodovic: hey steve
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Eos, Samud, ELiza, bunny
Eos Amaterasu: eliza, can you comment re Varela's perspective in "Ethical Knowhow"?
Eliza Madrigal: Oh thanks for the easy question :)
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: We had a little book club a while back where we read Francisco Varela's book by that title
Eliza Madrigal: inspiring is his pointing to an ethics born of love rather than reason...
Eliza Madrigal: without disregarding reason
Eliza Madrigal looks for book nearby....
Eos Amaterasu: http://www.amazon.com/Ethical-Know-H.../dp/0804730334
druth Vlodovic: ethics born of anything but love is unreasonable
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, what he says is "ethics is closer to wisdom than reason"
stevenaia Michinaga: makes sense
Eliza Madrigal: my extrapolation is toward the notion of spontaneous right action
druth Vlodovic: "spontaenous" would use instincts, and instincts can be trained
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Paradise, nice to see you
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Paradise!
stevenaia Michinaga: i susan
Eos Amaterasu: Yes...Hi Paradise, Susan
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Susan :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya stev eliza eos ..druth susuan O :)) nice to see everyone
Eos Amaterasu: yes... being able to be, without demand
Eos Amaterasu: you can allow things to be
Eos Amaterasu: not be so afraid
Eos Amaterasu: so can see, not be afraid of seeing, looking
oO0Oo Resident: . David Suzuki at Occupy Montreal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUTDx...layer_embedded 5 Mins
Eos Amaterasu: and so better see what's important, how things are: simplicity of things
iwandertoo Resident: hi eos, eliza
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Eos Amaterasu: right action becomes more obvious, spontaneous, appropriate
Eliza Madrigal: wu wei
Eos Amaterasu: that's my wish for and with and from #occupy
Eliza Madrigal: joins that
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Arch
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arch :)
Paradise Tennant: hiya arch
Eliza Madrigal: does seem like the whole world has had shocks of various sorts... branches pulled from nests
Archmage Atlantis: Hello peeps :)
stevenaia Michinaga: waves to Archmage
Eliza Madrigal zooms paradise's dramatic dress
Eos Amaterasu: indeed!
Eliza Madrigal: :) beautiful , and also welcome back from your trip
Paradise Tennant: smiles seems like we were talking of dropping .. letting go . always seems to come back to that

--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: thank you eliza ..nice to be home : )
Archmage Atlantis: If I may observe, to let go, that is not the same as to forget.
Paradise Tennant: forgetting is actually an important skill .. need to be able to forget ..key to forgiveness ..and funnily enough letting go :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
iwandertoo Resident: couldnt disagree more
Eliza Madrigal: to forget for even a moment does seem crucial in a certain way
Eos Amaterasu listens
iwandertoo Resident: to understand fully, the root cause, is the key
Archmage Atlantis: My example, ......I let go of the pain felt at my mother's death.........I do not let go of what she taught and meant to me.
iwandertoo Resident: and this allows one to let go
stevenaia Michinaga: walk in anothers's shoes: susan
iwandertoo Resident: ?
Eliza Madrigal: not always possible to find a root cause, then trapped?
stevenaia Michinaga: ] Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): to understand fully, the root cause, is the key
iwandertoo Resident: no...
iwandertoo Resident: still not following, stevenaia
oO0Oo Resident thinks of Lakoffs in-built metaphors RE: Arch's mothers lessons and meaning to him
Archmage Atlantis: All trees, even of the same species, have roots of their own
Eliza Madrigal: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I equate understanding to be the other's point of view, if only for a moment
iwandertoo Resident: one may understand and still disagree
Archmage Atlantis: agree, susan
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Archmage Atlantis: and disagree
oO0Oo Resident nods and smiles
Eliza Madrigal: but to really experience someone's shoes one would have to be able to step from own?
Archmage Atlantis: a conundrum
Eliza Madrigal: that could be a kind of forgetting
Eliza Madrigal: suspension
iwandertoo Resident: integration
iwandertoo Resident: awareness
Eliza Madrigal nods
oO0Oo Resident: ways to the root Susan?
Archmage Atlantis: Come gather round ppl, wherever you roam :)
Eos Amaterasu: circumstances form around me, circumstances form around her, or him; letting go circumstances just a little bit seems to open empathy, to where I'm coming from where you're coming
Archmage Atlantis: So similar to now.....come Senators, Congressmen....pls hear the call
Eos Amaterasu: there's something happening here....
Eliza Madrigal: hums :)
Eos Amaterasu: bearing witness
oO0Oo Resident: I was curious how you see the way to getting to the roots Susan?
oO0Oo Resident: Susan Sorensson (iwandertoo): to understand fully, the root cause, is the key
Tess Aristocrat: hello folks
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tess :)
oO0Oo Resident: Hi tess
druth Vlodovic: I see "forgiveness" more the way people talk about intruding thoughts when they meditate
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eos Amaterasu: ~~, Tess
druth Vlodovic: you don't forget what they did, you don't decide that you aren't offended, you just let it pass through you emotionally and learn from it
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Tess
Tess Aristocrat: ㋡
druth Vlodovic: hey tess

--BELL--

iwandertoo Resident: nods
Paradise Tennant: hiya tess
Tess Aristocrat: forgiveness can be a long hot bath with mineral salts : )
Eliza Madrigal: 'you don't decide that you aren't offended'... that's great :))... indeed sometimes one might leave something open rather than contrive something that looks like forgiveness
Eliza Madrigal: :) Tess
Tess Aristocrat: Eliza <3
Eos Amaterasu imagines bathtubs at Zucottii Park
Tess Aristocrat: ㋡
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Tess Aristocrat: it's simply being good to yourself...
Archmage Atlantis: Roman
Archmage Atlantis: Baths
Archmage Atlantis: Eos?
Eliza Madrigal: nice to imagine that... grudges dissolving...
Eos Amaterasu: those were bigger than bathtubs, Arch - but seem they're needed in Rome
Tess Aristocrat: mmm...rinsing them down the drain..
Paradise Tennant: such joy in imagining
Tess Aristocrat: such power too
Paradise Tennant: sometimes better than the real thing
Tess Aristocrat: haha..I'm so relaxed, it's a wonder I didn't go down the drain with the water! :D
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eos Amaterasu: imagine forgetting that "it can't happen here"
Tess Aristocrat: ㋡
Eos Amaterasu: we get used to our little boxes, and lose imagination
Eliza Madrigal: or that the stranger can't possibly understand
Eos Amaterasu: (apologies to boxy :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Archmage Atlantis: In the infinite, all things and non-things are possible
Eos Amaterasu: yes, there's such a wonder in mutual openness opening up
Eos Amaterasu: together in non-agenda
Eliza Madrigal smiles
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles .... is imagining .. falling into a deep sleep :) thank you all .. will say good nite and be open to dreaming .. without agenda :)
stevenaia Michinaga: night PAradise
Eos Amaterasu: 'nite, Paradise
oO0Oo Resident: Night Paradise
Tess Aristocrat: ㋡ night
Paradise Tennant: namates and wishing you all dreams of wonder :)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Tess Aristocrat: ㋡
Eliza Madrigal: oh, sorry to miss... (bye Paradise)
Eliza Madrigal: dreams sans agenda, nice
Archmage Atlantis: Well, going to Tonglen meditation, even tho I have no idea what that is
Archmage Atlantis: Blessings and Namaste
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
iwandertoo Resident: its good stuff, arch
druth Vlodovic: happy tongling arch
Eos Amaterasu: ciao, Arch
iwandertoo Resident: enjoy
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Arch
Tess Aristocrat: ㋡
druth Vlodovic: I should go, work tomorrow
druth Vlodovic: have fun all
Tess Aristocrat: aww..bye cuddly wabbit
Eliza Madrigal: nice to see you druth... happy hopping
Eos Amaterasu: good night, druth
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eos Amaterasu will also go after the bell
Eliza Madrigal: Night Eos :) thanks
stevenaia Michinaga: night Eos
stevenaia Michinaga: I need to go too, sweet dreams to all
oO0Oo Resident: I might join the Tonglen... Thanks everyone :) Nice to be here with you.

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: 'night, stevie
Eliza Madrigal: Night Sam
Tess Aristocrat: night
Eliza Madrigal: Night Stevie, Tess
oO0Oo Resident: _/\_
Eos Amaterasu: _/|\_
Eliza Madrigal: Interesting session, thanks again
Eos Amaterasu: thank you all, good night Sam, Eliza, Susan
Eliza Madrigal: Night :)
iwandertoo Resident: nite
Eliza Madrigal: Night Susan....
Eliza Madrigal: somehow thought you poofed before :)
Eliza Madrigal: you become so quiet sometimes :)