2008.07.08 13:00 - Being, Large or Small?

The Guardian for this meeting was Fael Illyar, the comments are Fael's.

I was waiting at the pavilion if anyone would show up and after a couple of minutes, Adams did.

Fael Illyar: Hi Adams
Adams Rubble: Hi Fael :)
Adams Rubble: We're the only ones here?
Fael Illyar: So it seems
Adams Rubble: I wasn't going to come because I can;t stay but I got your comments
Adams Rubble: Do you mind if I put them on the blog?
Fael Illyar: Not at all :)
Adams Rubble: secondly. Being and human beings seems to be inseparable...
Adams Rubble: but isn;t Being mnore than any one of us..
Adams Rubble: all encompassing
Adams Rubble: the source of everything
Adams Rubble: ?
Fael Illyar: I can't say I understand this myself but I'm somehow inclined to hold that there is no difference.
Adams Rubble: But it has to be huge :)
Adams Rubble: before us, before time maybe
Adams Rubble: after us, after time maybe
Adams Rubble: in that sense like God
Fael Illyar: I don't think time has any relevance.
Adams Rubble: ahhhh, I think it does
Adams Rubble: but I don;t understand it yet
Fael Illyar: can't say I do either :)
Adams Rubble: I think I was thrown off about Being because I was looking for it in just myself
Fael Illyar: But for some reason trying to hold that Being is something larger than you just screams "not correct" to me.

We seem to have conflicting ideas about Being...

Adams Rubble: now that I have seen it in a bigger light, I feel that I am beginning to understand some of the things Pema has been saying to me
Faenik is a hairy black ball with eyes and ears.

... although Faenik doesn't seem too interested.

Adams Rubble: Ahhhh
Adams Rubble: I knew we were approaching this differently
Adams Rubble: I wish we were together with Pema....we could be having quite a session now :)
Fael Illyar: Yes, could be :)
Adams Rubble: From what I have seen Pema saying to you...and what he is saying to me...we may both be on track but approaching from different ends :)
Fael Illyar: Wouldn't surprise me. Although, the funny thing is that claiming Being is exactly you also screams incorrect to me :P
Adams Rubble: I am a bit confused about what you said
Adams Rubble: are you directing to me or you?
Fael Illyar: neither and both

It's funny you come up with these wordplays in relation to things that are very easy to understand.

Adams Rubble: :)
Fael Illyar: :)
Adams Rubble: I haven't had feedback from pema for quite a few days so I am a bit on the limb but I wanted to think it through first
Adams Rubble: let my brain take it where it wanted to go
Fael Illyar: Yes, Pema tends to be present ... Well, on those sessions when he's the Guardian :)
Fael Illyar: that is, 1AM ones
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: I have been missing many in the past week or so
Adams Rubble: I always miss the 1 am sessions :)
Adams Rubble: It's 4 am here
Fael Illyar: Yes, I can see why you'd miss those :)

Then we move to talking about waking up in the morning.

Adams Rubble: a few times I woke up about 4:55 but couldn't get online in time
Faenik: why not?
Adams Rubble: not that it would have mattered
Fael Illyar: hehe, I tend to wake up just in time for 1AM ones often :P
Adams Rubble: What time is that there?
Fael Illyar: 11AM
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: You stay up later than I do :)
Fael Illyar: yes, quite a bit
Adams Rubble: The seven PM are late for me
Fael Illyar: Well, it makes our schedules match better. :)
Adams Rubble: Yes, that it does :)
Fael Illyar: internet communication goes like that. You tend to spend most time with people who wake up at similar times :)
Faenik: ah :)
Adams Rubble: Yes :)
Adams Rubble: I have been thinking that if this becomes the session for today, then both of us are going to be hearing from Pema :)
Fael Illyar: the session for today?
Adams Rubble: for this time slot
Fael Illyar: Probably, yes
Adams Rubble: if nobody else comes
Fael Illyar: Doesn't look like others are coming

Conversation moves back to original topic, after a small break.

Adams Rubble: Pema has told me to love God
Adams Rubble: to me that translates as being being comparable
Adams Rubble: I can understand Being from that standpoint
Fael Illyar: I think they're very close.
Adams Rubble: and truly religious people often think that God is within them
Fael Illyar: I liked reading your comments about handling rough things calmly :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: It's been a rough day :)
Fael Illyar: resonates with my own experiences
Adams Rubble: This is doing us some good then
Fael Illyar: Anxiety and other things do pop up but I can let them vanish.
Adams Rubble: I am learning
Fael Illyar: I used to have some anxiety waiting for my turn at the line in supermarket.
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble: I used to be a terror in the supermarket :)
Fael Illyar: terror?
Adams Rubble: impatient as one can be
Fael Illyar: Ah, I haven't had much problem with impatience myself.
Fael Illyar: doesn't mean I haven't had any. Just that I haven't let it control me.
Fael Illyar: Now I rarely have that either.
Adams Rubble: I am getting better with impatience too
Faenik: could be

I decided to share an observation about my own past methods of solving these kinds of things.

Fael Illyar: I've realized one mistake I had done approaching this sort of thing by myself before finding PaB
Fael Illyar: I was "fixing" problems by slowly making myself simply not care.
Adams Rubble: Yes, I can see some problems with that
Fael Illyar: quite different from this approach.
Adams Rubble: yes
Fael Illyar: Although, even though I wasn't aware of it. I was also doing it partly by letting go.
Fael Illyar: so it didn't end up complete in that way.
Adams Rubble: This has been a good experience
Adams Rubble: I have to go now. My sock monkey want s to say hello to Faenik
Fael Illyar: Ok, have fun :)
Faenik: Hello sock monkey :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Fael Illyar: See you later :)
Adams Rubble: Oh, who should post the log?
Fael Illyar: I agreed to it a week ago already
Adams Rubble: Ah, I didn;t know. OK, bye :)

With this, Adams took her leave.