That night, at 1 am SLT, I met Gaya and Adelene, and Meesha joined us at about the same time.
Pema Pera: Hi Gaya and Adelene!
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Pema :)
Meesha Cuttita: hi guys
Pema Pera: ah, hi Meesha!
Pema Pera: Long time no see, how are you?
Meesha Cuttita: great, i was here yesterday
Meesha Cuttita: we had a good discussion
Gaya Ethaniel: Hi again Meesha
Meesha Cuttita: well they helped me a lot
Meesha Cuttita: hi Gaya
Meesha Cuttita: seems i got attached to peace and quiet
Meesha Cuttita: :)
Pema Pera: :)
Meesha Cuttita: how are you?
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Pema Pera: I look forward to read the log, Meesha
Pema Pera: I’m fine, back in the US, in California
Gaya Ethaniel: I’m well thanks
Gaya Ethaniel: And you Meesha?
Meesha Cuttita: just wonderful
Pema Pera: Adelene, is this your second time here?
Pema Pera: or did you drop by in another session, after we met?
Gaya Ethaniel thinks Adel is away…
It turned out that Adelene was indeed afk. She had parked her avatar here, with an alarm to notify here when others would be present, but somehow the alarm malfunctioned, she told us later.
Pema Pera: Gaya or Meesha, is there anything you’d like to talk about?
Gaya Ethaniel: Adel came by yesterday and Stim was there Pema
Pema Pera: ah, great!
Meesha Cuttita: i’d like to listen today, i got my answers yesterday
Pema Pera: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Meesha mentioned ‘peace and quiet’ and it just reminded me of our misunderstanding yesterday Pema
Pema Pera: ah yes, one misunderstanding from my side was that I was not used to the expression “with metta”
Pema Pera: I thought it was part of a previous sentence
Gaya Ethaniel: No… nature and man-made things
Pema Pera: but later I understood it was like “with love”, a greeting
Pema Pera: ah, yes, there was that too.
Pema Pera: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: It seems that people so far I’ve met don’t attach peaceful with man-made things
Gaya Ethaniel: :) Yes you’re right
Pema Pera: can you say more?
Gaya Ethaniel: For example, I’m in a peaceful place even within an urban environment - a beautiful church let’s say
Gaya Ethaniel: I find that just as peaceful as I’d if I’m on the top a hill
Pema Pera: yes, or a very pleasant tea room, to do some quiet work
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes
Pema Pera: or here in SL the tea house where we used to meet
Pema Pera: (and where you were, wondering about us :)
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Gaya Ethaniel recall some of funny wonderings
Pema Pera: and then of course there are many things in between nature and man made — a garden for example
Pema Pera: what kind of wonderings, Gaya?
Gaya Ethaniel: no… fleeting silliness
Gaya Ethaniel: Garden is a good example -
Pema Pera: oh, we’ve had lots of silliness here in PaB sessions :)
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Pema Pera: Hi Rajah!
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ with metta
Rajah Yalin: hi Pema, Gaya, Adelene, and Meesha
Meesha Cuttita: hi Rajah
Rajah Yalin: still rezzing you all
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Rajah stopped by and took a seat.
Pema Pera: like passing customs at an aiport, showing your residence permit
Pema Pera: long line sometimes
Gaya Ethaniel didn’t get what Pema said just then
Pema Pera: rezzing is taking up residence
Gaya Ethaniel: oh… pins drop
Rajah Yalin: long lines these last 7 yrs atleast
Pema Pera: coming into the US, say, there is a line for visitors and also a line for citizens and residents
Rajah Yalin: I had a harrrd time getting into Tibet in 2002 they were terrorist feared crazy
Gaya Ethaniel: Was that for all nationalities?
Rajah Yalin: I suppose
Rajah Yalin: I had an easy time coming to home though
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Rajah Yalin: they didnt want me in but glad to kick me out haha
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I’ve found as a Korean - I get mixture of receptions
Gaya Ethaniel: South Korean* alas never been to North yet
Rajah Yalin: hmm Sun Myung Moon was not allowed to come to my country
Gaya Ethaniel: You’re in Malaysia yes?
Rajah Yalin: we didnt welcome him I think hes Koeanr
Rajah Yalin: Vanuatu
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes Moon is a S Korean
Gaya Ethaniel looks up Google Map
Rajah Yalin: south of malaysia say 2000 kilometres
Rajah Yalin: or more.. I jus got home from th enakamal I’m a little loopy
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes I can see it :)
Pema Pera: :)
Rajah Yalin: lol can you?
Gaya Ethaniel: what’s enakamal?
Pema Pera: lol
Rajah Yalin: *nakamal
Rajah Yalin: kava bar basically
Gaya Ethaniel sees Raja typing in satelite view
Rajah Yalin: they’re onto us Spud!
Gaya Ethaniel: :) I mean no harm, just harmless stalking
Rajah Yalin: well, I figure anyone who wants to stalk me must have nothing else to do so, I don’t mind it :)
The conversation turns to kava.
Gaya Ethaniel: Ah… Kava Kava I see
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Rajah Yalin: why kava two times?
Gaya Ethaniel: Think it’s called Kava Kava
Rajah Yalin shrugs
Rajah Yalin: sounds american to me to say kava twice
Gaya Ethaniel: It’s called that in UK too
Rajah Yalin: I see it on the net sometimes as kava kava, we just say kava once here :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Makes life easy :)
Rajah Yalin: lucky me I have an internet haha
Rajah Yalin: I was at nakamal one night, some Aussies come in and say we’d like some kava kava, everyone gave them a look like ‘huh?’
Gaya Ethaniel laughs out loud
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes it’s called that too in Oz :)
Rajah Yalin: they thought they meant the very strong kava
Rajah Yalin: since they said it 2 times
Rajah Yalin: next thing we have 2 Ozs passing out on the ground
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Rajah Yalin: fun times…
Pema Pera: Well, perhaps Meesha just had some kava kava too?
Rajah Yalin: hehe
I try to see whether we can switch from kava to PaB.
Pema Pera: Gaya, have you had some time to play with the 9 sec explorations?
Gaya Ethaniel: Just before you joined us Raja, we were talking about how some of us define ‘nature’ and ‘peacefulness’ that go together
Gaya Ethaniel: yes
Pema Pera: did you try writing something, while doing it, a few words?
Gaya Ethaniel: no afterwards
Pema Pera: you mean immediately afterwrds?
Gaya Ethaniel: I’m in that 9 sec moments so no writing really
Gaya Ethaniel: sometimes and sometimes not
Pema Pera: do you find it helpful to write?
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes, I tend to go back and see what I said
Rajah Yalin: so nature and peacefulness in connectinon? hmmm it is some good to get away from words and writing
Pema Pera: and sometimes a few short words can point to nature and peacefulness, like haiku for example
Pema Pera: or other short poems
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Gaya Ethaniel: peacefulness comes from within I believe
Rajah Yalin: but I mean like street signs, advertismeents, come here, do this
Gaya Ethaniel: but Pema - do you think we are giving a power to haiku to make you feel peaceful?
Rajah Yalin: do that, you have to try this out, buy buy buy
Gaya Ethaniel: Fael’s word - giving powers to things to make us calm
Pema Pera: every word can be both an expression and a pointer — and yes, advertisements are seductive pointers
Rajah Yalin: I feel powerful when I can be aware of them but they never cross my mind
Pema Pera: and a deep haiku can be an effective reminder of something that you’ve experienced before, beyond words, or perhaps even a new kind of experience
Gaya Ethaniel: so haiku in this case is a pointer
Pema Pera: or a trigger
Pema Pera: or just something to enjoy :)
Gaya Ethaniel: can you think of such a trigger everyone recognises?
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Pema Pera: inner and outer mingle — outer triggers can help to feel more inwardly peaceful
Rajah Yalin: the enjoyment is peace to me, in a haiku
Pema Pera: oh, poetry is very context dependent, for sure
Rajah Yalin yawns
Gaya Ethaniel nods
We all seem to be nodding off . . .
Pema Pera is ready to go to bed
Pema Pera: it is 1:30 am here
Pema Pera: I’m on SL time for once
Rajah Yalin: are you in the US Pema?
Pema Pera: here in California
Pema Pera: yeah, just arrived
Pema Pera: flew from Tokyo to San Francisco
Rajah Yalin: so you leave Japan finally?
Pema Pera: not finally
Pema Pera: will be back in september :)
Rajah Yalin: good
Rajah Yalin: I have yet to to go to Japan but I went to tibet, india, and nepal
Rajah Yalin: and come back from florida and bahamas last month
Pema Pera: Must be nice to be back on your island!
Pema Pera: I’ll go to my island in three weeks
Pema Pera: but only for three weeks, then I fly out again
Rajah Yalin: oh definetely I miss it when gone
Rajah Yalin: which island is it?
Pema Pera: Manhattan
Rajah Yalin: what state is that?
Pema Pera: New York
Pema Pera: (center of New York City :)
Rajah Yalin: hmm Im not american obviously I thought NY was the city
Pema Pera: (happens to be an island)
Rajah Yalin: wow this is new to me
Rajah Yalin: what are you doing in Cali? that is like opposite end yeah
Pema Pera: interesting statistic: the total land area of Second Life is about the same size as Manhattan :-)
Pema Pera: In California I am working with Stim (Steven Tainer in RL)
Pema Pera: and visiting Gen and Sky — all of whom live here in Berkeley
Gaya had spotted a photograph of the typists behind Stim and me.
Gaya Ethaniel: http://www.waysofknowing.net/ you can see Pema and Stim there :)
Rajah Yalin: I’d not like the city
Pema Pera: :)
Pema Pera: Actually, Gaya, they look more like Piet and Steven on the picture :)
Rajah Yalin: too big to me, I didnt like Madurai or Madras (chennai now), or varanasi or any indian cities size
Gaya Ethaniel hears more pins dropping
Gaya Ethaniel: pin drops = realisation*
Pema Pera thinks Gaya must not be in a city, if she can hear that
Rajah Yalin: good cities but you just cant get to kno it when so big
Pema Pera: ah!
Pema Pera: Well, gotto get some sleep
Gaya Ethaniel: Good night Pema thanks for coming
Rajah Yalin: ok Pema take care
Pema Pera: see you all soon again!
Rajah Yalin: Namaste
Pema Pera: Thank you all too!
Meesha Cuttita: bye all
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ with metta
Pema Pera: Meesha, good seeing you again!
Rajah Yalin: take care Meesha
Meesha Cuttita: good to be here
Meesha Cuttita: bye Rajah
Pema Pera: Bye Adelene!
Rajah Yalin: bye all good to see you
Pema Pera: I think Adelene parked here before the session started
Gaya Ethaniel: Bye for now everyone
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_ with metta
Pema Pera: may be surprised to see the long chat log :)
Rajah Yalin: hehe
