2008.07.11 19:00 - Cameras and Squids

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    That night, at 1 am, when I entered the pavilion, I found Doug there. He refered to an email I had just sent him, inviting him to become a Play as Being guardian.

    Pema Pera: Hi Doug!
    doug Sosa: hi!
    doug Sosa: Thanks for the emails.
    Pema Pera: Oh, sure, thank you!
    doug Sosa: Have you built a space here in SL?
    Pema Pera: I have my own little hut, right nearby
    Pema Pera: In fact you are looking at it right now :-)
    doug Sosa: that sounds terrific. I want one in RL.
    Pema Pera: straight in front of you
    Pema Pera: hahaha, well, you can start here
    doug Sosa: Over the arch bridge and past the trees on the left?
    doug Sosa: this way?
    Pema Pera: no
    Pema Pera: to your right now
    doug Sosa: this way?
    Pema Pera: in front of you yes
    Pema Pera: over the bridge
    Pema Pera: toward the West
    doug Sosa: ah, little light in the window?
    Pema Pera: yes
    doug Sosa: setting sun.
    Pema Pera: ah, perhaps that is what you meant?
    Pema Pera: I saw you walking to what seemed the North
    doug Sosa: what you meant, guide to the west, astronomical knowledge.
    Pema Pera: you can walk over if you like, or simply move your camera position over
    Pema Pera: the latter much faster and more flexible
    doug Sosa: yes, i was walking north first, toward that other house/hut.

    When I saw Doug walking around, I realized that he probably didn’t know about camera control, making it so much easier to take in the world around you in SL.

    Pema Pera: do you know that you can inspect anything in quite gory detail without moving your avatar, at least up to a few hundred meters?
    Pema Pera: and often further away?
    doug Sosa: no, how?
    Pema Pera: use camera controls
    Pema Pera: several options
    Pema Pera: the blue arrows, do you have those out?
    doug Sosa: ok, dumb question, where are camera controls?
    doug Sosa: no.
    Pema Pera: top bar: view -> camera controls
    doug Sosa: got ‘em.
    Pema Pera: toggle that to on (with an x) and a blue small dashboard appears
    Pema Pera: clicking on the eight arrows in the two circles moves your camer position
    Pema Pera: without affecting your avatar
    Pema Pera: the plus and minus is for zooming in and out
    Pema Pera: like in google maps
    doug Sosa: seems to work, now to zoom in?
    Pema Pera: plus
    doug Sosa: hm, since my view is behind me, it just showws me the back of my shirt.
    Pema Pera: first pan around, using the right circle
    Pema Pera: the four arrows of the right circle
    doug Sosa: ah, i elevated camera, now i can move it forward.
    Pema Pera: then the arrows of left circle help to rotate
    Pema Pera: the combination, after some practice, lets you go anywhere from any angle
    Pema Pera: That is the first method

    After explaining about using the blue arrows, I also mentioned the more direct way of using the alt key and so on.

    Pema Pera: The second method is what most oldtimers use more
    doug Sosa: ablout like learning to ride a bicycle.
    Pema Pera: that is to use the alt key
    doug Sosa: the + only takes me a little way, like power of 2.
    Pema Pera: in combination with the left mouse button and movement of the mouse
    Pema Pera: so pick a spot in your field that you want to zoom into
    Pema Pera: hold both the alt key down and the left mouse button
    doug Sosa: sort of get it. still can’t zoom into the hut. Just got the pun! and only took me fifteen minutes!
    Pema Pera: and move the moused forward (or move up on a trackpad)
    Pema Pera: and you will zoom in
    Pema Pera: does that work?
    doug Sosa: this is fun, sure moves FAST.
    Pema Pera: Then there are other key combinations
    doug Sosa: but not yet zooming. I’ll play with it anothe time. enough for now.
    Pema Pera: like holding down both control and alt, or control + alt + shift
    Pema Pera: if you try those, you will see which degrees of freedom are exercised
    Pema Pera: Now then there is a third way, mouse look, but perhaps these two are good enough to play with for now :)

    And for good measure I mentioned the mous look option, though I rarely use that myself.

    Pema Pera: To get into mouse look, just type “m”
    Pema Pera: and you can get out by hitting “escape”
    doug Sosa: ok. i did get over to one hut, nit the right one. more later.
    doug Sosa: yes. I’m back.
    Pema Pera: while in mouse look any mouse motion will do (seemingly) wild things (until you get the hang of it)
    Pema Pera: Escape is the generic way to hook you camera up again with you avatar
    doug Sosa: interesting how much in RL i use touch.
    doug Sosa: I am the kind that doesn’t like plaster board rooms because i can feel the vibration, unlike real plaster.
    doug Sosa: Which is much more rigid.
    Pema Pera: it will be only a matter of time for touch to be introduced here
    Pema Pera: Allready the wii uses touch . . . in some beginning way
    Pema Pera: Hi Doug, welcome back!
    doug Sosa: second life crached!
    doug Sosa: “crashed…
    doug Sosa: first second life crash in a long time.
    doug Sosa: I had interesting conversations yesterday..
    doug Sosa: with naotech, biotech amd financial data aggregator, all at the top of their field, each unknwn to the others, and all on the edge between
    doug Sosa: wnting to make a lot of money and doing social good. money is easier, the default.
    doug Sosa: “wanting”
    doug Sosa: make money OR social good.
    doug Sosa: hi yogi steve.
    Pema Pera: Hi Steve!
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Doug
    stevenaia Michinaga: Pema
    stevenaia Michinaga: anyone else here?
    doug Sosa: i must go, dinner served… esxcuse please.
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye doug
    stevenaia Michinaga: serve?

    Just after Steve entered Doug left while leaving Steve wondering about Doug’s life style, of having dinner served to him :-).

    Pema Pera: too quick to say goodbye . . .
    Pema Pera: yes, lucky Doug!
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: quiet evening!
    Pema Pera: First Doug and I for half an hour, now you and me.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I see that, friday night
    stevenaia Michinaga: interesting even in town, Dali Lama is giving a 6 day seminar here
    stevenaia Michinaga: tickets went faster than Britney Spires
    stevenaia Michinaga: how are you?
    Pema Pera: :)
    Pema Pera: fine, still hanging in there after a very busy week
    Pema Pera: and one more such crazy week coming up, before my Japan visit will end
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, same here, all good thing though
    Pema Pera: then off to Berkeley for three weeks, working with Stim in person
    Pema Pera: here too :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: wow, sounds nice, I love the SF bay area, I have relatives in Mountainview that I am doing work with
    stevenaia Michinaga: I insist on regular site visits :)
    Pema Pera: well, if you come to the Bay area before August 9, we could all meet!
    Pema Pera: Gen and Stim and me
    Pema Pera: and Sky
    stevenaia Michinaga: no it won’t be that soon
    Pema Pera: all Berkeleyites
    Pema Pera: Berkeleyans?
    stevenaia Michinaga: you going to be there all month?
    Pema Pera: three weeks
    Pema Pera: July 20 to August 9
    stevenaia Michinaga: lovely, right, I see that now

    I then got briefly puzzled about squids . . .

    stevenaia Michinaga: I got this strange survey when I signed on , wondering if it’s me or everyone: Squid Design Group
    stevenaia Michinaga: opps wrong paste
    stevenaia Michinaga: from Univerity of Innsbrook
    stevenaia Michinaga: Avitar- Based Inovation Research project
    stevenaia Michinaga: some survey, did you get it when you signed on?
    Pema Pera: I get so many requests :) I only remember what seems relevant at the time of reading, the rest flushes straight into /dev/null
    Pema Pera: ah! signed onto what?
    Pema Pera: sorry, I thought random email
    stevenaia Michinaga: I haven’t looked at it was wondering where I should file it
    stevenaia Michinaga: no problem
    Pema Pera: now squid design DOES sound interesting :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol, that an architectural rendering and drafting service in Argentina, I think
    Pema Pera: physics SQUID detector or biological Squids as in the animals?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I get those emails from all over mostly from China and India, you can get alot done with $15/hr professional help in my profession
    stevenaia Michinaga: Can’t say I’ve used any yet, but makes you think if a global workforce is a good or bad thing… depending on who you ask
    Pema Pera: are they really delivering work that is as useful as if you were to farm it out locally?
    Pema Pera: I mean, how must startup time is there involved in explaining to them what you need done?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I have been heavilly marketed by some, hard to say, I have used people I have never met across the country to assist me in some work, but it must be affective for some
    stevenaia Michinaga: to work internationally, some of the presentation.rendering sites appear to do work and don't need to be that in tune with anything but pretty pictures
    Pema Pera: I see, yes, if the task is sufficiently well defined
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, it is a concern of mine when things get more technical
    Pema Pera: btw, I should get going before too long . . . the end of the hour is approaching . . .
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, don't mean to keep you, the night just started for me
    stevenaia Michinaga: be well
    Pema Pera: You too, Steve!
    Pema Pera: see you next time, if not in the Bay Area then here :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: :
    stevenaia Michinaga: 0
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy lunch

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