2009.11.08 01:00 - Religions with cold feet

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    Moon Fargis: *grins*
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_
    Stargate Tone: Hello Qt
    Moon Fargis: morning QT ::)
    Qt Core: hi stargate, moon
    Moon Fargis: if youre freezy you also can sit near the fire .)
    Qt Core: a couple weeks ago i discovered i had no socks, now i have some and if i have good socks i can stand almost everything ;-)
    Moon Fargis: lol
    Stargate Tone: wowww
    Qt Core: that is making my silly meat master thinks about him having no socks and being a little cold... he will be back in a min
    Moon Fargis: hehe meat master
    Qt Core: back ;-)
    Moon Fargis: wb ^^
    Stargate Tone: wb =^.^=
    Qt Core: every season is getting more detailed and complex
    Qt Core: do you build these scenes yourself ?
    Moon Fargis: ˙·•| mmh *nods* |•·˙
    Moon Fargis: *slurps his hot tea*
    Stargate Tone: hm...is this also called as scene ?
    Stargate Tone: as they are prim items...
    Qt Core: i could not find a better world
    Stargate Tone: ah ok
    Stargate Tone: np
    Moon Fargis: hmhm i think scenery?
    Stargate Tone: ah yes...just complex to star...as to me it's the winter garden, no scenery :)***
    Qt Core: i was thinking about the name they use for the reconstruction of natural habitats they do in natural history museums... but at the moment i can't remember that world not even in italian ;-)
    Moon Fargis: haha
    Moon Fargis: hmm
    Moon Fargis: hmmm
    Moon Fargis: *ponders*
    Stargate Tone: btw
    Qt Core: got it (in italian) diorama
    Moon Fargis: ahh
    Moon Fargis: yes
    Moon Fargis: same in german
    Stargate Tone: can you stand heat also better with socks ?
    Moon Fargis: got such dioramas at my art gallery
    Moon Fargis: ex pab library
    Qt Core: i have cold feet, you can rarely see me with bare feet
    Stargate Tone: as I experiensed such in Italy, that one must have socks
    Moon Fargis: lets make ita bitwarmer then :)
    Stargate Tone: that bare feet makes probs also for the heat, when needed shoes on...like going to Snt Piedro's Cathedral...well...I didn't need, but my company did...
    Moon Fargis: :))
    Moon Fargis: well
    Moon Fargis: i wouldnt dare to walk barefeet outside
    Qt Core: if only religions would agree... you have or have not... to wear shoes ;-)
    Stargate Tone: done so at summers most of my life, but not late years (for driving the car)
    Stargate Tone: and yes; there's rules how to dress when goes to that building
    Moon Fargis: qt: they cant already agree abut condoms whoe could they then with shoes ?)
    Stargate Tone: ..oh...
    Qt Core: maybe starting lower (on importamce and on body level) we may get something ;-)
    Stargate Tone: rofl .)***
    Stargate Tone: (just and just stays on her chair)
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Stargate Tone: ...may I be curious ?
    Moon Fargis: sure
    Qt Core: sure
    Stargate Tone: what does this religion suggest for the 'safety' not to get the child ?
    Qt Core: as in use or don't use condom ?
    Stargate Tone: if they dont accept condoms...then what instead I mean...or dont they accept anything to 'be safe' ?
    Stargate Tone: (hard to find words...a bit tough topic to me and so much lag in english)
    Qt Core: ok, got it, the only accepted way is abstinence in the form of planning to have sex when the woman is not in the period she can conceive
    Qt Core: and obviously only after marriage
    Qt Core: ;-)
    Moon Fargis: morning gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello :) Sorry I'm late.
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; after marriage I understand somehow...but..
    Qt Core: hi gaya
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_ Gaya
    Moon Fargis: well i think some religion branches see sex as a way to produce children
    Moon Fargis: and not to have fun
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_
    Moon Fargis: thats why they dont agreeto condoms
    Qt Core: yes, just got an idea (don't know if it is right) the fun part is work of satana to try to make people be unfaithful to the spouse and to god
    Qt Core: devil'sadvocate speaking here
    Qt Core: you know moon your trees are very 3d
    Moon Fargis: thanks might be this is a 3d world :)
    Stargate Tone: and to me even that winter garden is 'warm' :)***
    Moon Fargis: searching now a speciel song
    Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... not sure Qt. What's wrong with fun parts in life in general? I think things can be good and also enjoyable :)
    Qt Core: i'm not the one to askl, i was trying to imagine the high level church theologist thought on that
    Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... what do you think Qt?
    Qt Core: i try to have fun whenever reasonable (or at least don't take thinks too seriously/dramatically)
    Qt Core: things
    Gaya Ethaniel: Why not :D
    Qt Core: but in this matter i think that if one choose to follow a religion he/she should try to follow its rules
    Gaya Ethaniel nods. It's a serious commitment.
    Moon Fargis: hm, rules are made to break them somethimes no ?
    Stargate Tone: agree
    Stargate Tone: specially 'man made'
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Qt Core: while i may break some of those rules untill i call myself catholic i almost pretend to be told i'm breaking them, it is a complicated feeling
    Moon Fargis: haha
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_
    Qt Core: not until
    Qt Core: an example
    Gaya Ethaniel: I think there are spiritual reasons behind religious 'rules'. One breaks them and one learns ...
    Stargate Tone: btw...anybody here knows religious texts written by a woman and accepted to some religion ?
    Qt Core: we have many divorced people that argue about them not being able to remarry (in church) or to be godfhater/godmother
    Stargate Tone: (just thought 'again' that 'man made' expression)
    Qt Core: but they knew that before divorcing
    Gaya Ethaniel nods.
    Qt Core: so they should not argue about that
    Qt Core: if they still want to be catholic
    Stargate Tone: ...when it's good to brake the rule ?
    Stargate Tone: hm
    Moon Fargis: hmmmm well
    Moon Fargis: there is no rule for breaking a rule :)
    Stargate Tone: this might be better question; when it's good to check what rule to obey ?
    Qt Core: you may break a rule by mistake or disattention
    Moon Fargis: ahh now my avatar is back
    Stargate Tone: *
    Qt Core: or you may break one or all the rules if you do not more believe in the underlying values
    Gaya Ethaniel nods.
    Moon Fargis: hmm or when theses values are gone?
    Gaya Ethaniel: So what are the underlying values of the Catholic ethical codes in your opinion Qt?
    Stargate Tone: and more 'naturally working' values understood...
    Moon Fargis: heh
    Moon Fargis: its intresting
    Moon Fargis: most religion try to teach the human..
    Moon Fargis: not to be human
    Qt Core: good question, how many years i have to think about it ?
    Stargate Tone: think not so many...
    Stargate Tone: thinking U know the answer already
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Sunfire :)
    Sunfire Langer: hello Gaya :)
    Stargate Tone: Hi Sunfire
    Moon Fargis: morning sunfire
    Qt Core: Hi Sunfire
    Sunfire Langer: hello all
    Gaya Ethaniel: I think Eliza organised a book meeting on ethics recently. Did you go Qt?
    Gaya Ethaniel: I couldn't because of another event at Kira.
    Qt Core: no, gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
    Moon Fargis: hmhmm anyhow i would say that , rules are to rule
    Moon Fargis: so peple shell decide if they get rurles
    Gaya Ethaniel: If followed without understanding imo ...
    Moon Fargis: ruled
    Gaya Ethaniel: without intention to understand*
    Gaya Ethaniel: I'm married to a Catholic but he doesn't really practice.
    Moon Fargis: aslong theres always someone "higher" who punish the breakingof them rules mean ofcourse
    Moon Fargis: well there is no rule to practise it :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Well ... doesn't it feel bad to steal things for example? I think people know when they do wrong.
    Stargate Tone: have somebody hear seen some punishment come from the 'higher
    Moon Fargis: theres the police who punishe for breaking that rule :)
    Moon Fargis: but
    Gaya Ethaniel: I think the greatest punishment is torment of guilt inside.
    Moon Fargis: we should not set rule and law 1 to 1
    Stargate Tone: well; some people dont feel bad even they steel or lie
    Moon Fargis: well yes many people have no guilt
    Moon Fargis: cud they dont care
    Gaya Ethaniel nods. It is easy to get blind and life is not easy ... not to be so.
    Moon Fargis: about rules
    Sunfire Langer: Objectivists pose a new challenge to deontological thinking too
    Moon Fargis: well we just babble around :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: big word! deontology - The science of duty; that branch of knowledge which deals with moral obligations; ethics.
    Gaya Ethaniel: What are objectivists? Goal-orientated people?
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah being objective ...
    Sunfire Langer: they argue that reason alone should be the source of moral guidance, and that what is morally good is what is valuable
    Moon Fargis: who defines moraly good and bad ?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Is this reason something akin to Kant's reason?
    Sunfire Langer: Its actually Ayn Rands criticism of Kants moral philosophy
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ...
    Qt Core: still digesting the last couple of lines ;-)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Stargate Tone: wishes good day to all *
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Star :)
    Moon Fargis: see you star
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_
    Stargate Tone: hearts
    Qt Core: have fun stargate, nice color ;-)
    Gaya Ethaniel: wow this is new ... :) enjoy your day everyone.
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Qt Core: bye Gaya, you too
    Moon Fargis: see you gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel fondly remembers the library.
    Gaya Ethaniel waves.
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Moon Fargis: my fiend i also have to move, rl calls me strongly today
    Moon Fargis: see you soon have a nice day
    Qt Core: i'm going to check my lunch cooking too
    Moon Fargis: ^^

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