The Guardian for this meeting was Paradise Tennant. The comments are by Paradise, Sophia, stevenaia, and Calvino

Paradise Tennant: hey sophia ..gtsy :))
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Paradise ;)
SophiaSharon Larnia: gtsy too :)
Paradise Tennant: how are you :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: I thought for the longest time gtsy was a Canadian thing :)
Paradise Tennant: lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: until steve told me it was good to see you lol
Paradise Tennant: well yeah kind of Canadian! eh
SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm good! you?
Paradise Tennant: very well
Paradise Tennant: drinking tea
SophiaSharon Larnia: ohhh I see :)
Paradise Tennant: happy to be still
SophiaSharon Larnia: yea I hear you
Paradise Tennant: hiya steve :) gtsy :)
stevenaia Michinaga: evening
stevenaia Michinaga: needed a break from work :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: me too :D
stevenaia Michinaga: how are you?
SophiaSharon Larnia: how dedicated are you Steve :)
Paradise Tennant: nice to have a place to escape too
Paradise Tennant: like having a secret room
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
stevenaia Michinaga: should use it more during the day :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: been meaning to read Edan's session log
Paradise Tennant: really like reading the logs
SophiaSharon Larnia: same here
Paradise Tennant: there are some great conversation s
Paradise Tennant: feeling very peace full lately for some reason
Paradise Tennant: like all is well ..has always been well and always will be well :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: lovely Paradise :)
stevenaia Michinaga: here and in rl as well
Paradise Tennant: smiles in rill and sly
Paradise Tennant: rl mostly do not get in sl for very long
Paradise Tennant: smiles think I am letting go a bit :) nice feeling
SophiaSharon Larnia: for me either, these days :) Hi Calvino
Paradise Tennant: hiya cal gtsy :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Hi Cal
Calvino Rabeni: :) Hi everyone!
stevenaia Michinaga: what is peaceful? no stress, a bright outlook?
SophiaSharon Larnia: are you on fire Cal? :)
stevenaia Michinaga: quiet and calm?
Paradise Tennant: spacious
Calvino Rabeni: I must be hot-headed tonight
Paradise Tennant: would how I would describe it
SophiaSharon Larnia: :D spacious seems to be an apt word for peaceful
Paradise Tennant: listens
stevenaia Michinaga: :), nothing impeding your view or sense of things?
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: in flow
Paradise Tennant: hot headed cal ?
stevenaia Michinaga: strange but I pictured that as your natural state :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: some days more than others:)
Paradise Tennant: spacious is a kind of compelling word
Paradise Tennant: it describes going beyond the confines of our selves our physical body our perceived and often self imposed mental and emotional constraints
Paradise Tennant: free
SophiaSharon Larnia: can you stay in that spaciousness while considering the rest of the world?
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: just a broader .. view of the world
Calvino Rabeni: It's not hard to see people running away from freedom either
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: Eric from wrote a great book on that escape from freedom
Paradise Tennant: liked his art of loving best though .think that should be required reading for all humans
Calvino Rabeni: http://www.amazon.com/Art-Loving-Eri.../dp/0060915943
SophiaSharon Larnia: makes a note , has a big gift card for Christmas here
Paradise Tennant: I think it must be residue of the dream .. I had have had this feeling that nothing bad really happens we perceive certain things as bad but in reality they are just transition
Paradise Tennant: you would love it
Paradise Tennant: worth having to read and reread
Calvino Rabeni: Quote
Calvino Rabeni: Fromm describes what he calls the essential components that need to be mastered, for all forms of Love: Care (the active concern for the life and the growth of that which we love); Responsibility (to be able, willing and ready to respond to the psychic needs of the other); Respect (concern that the other person should grow and unfold as he/she is on their own, to be aware of her unique individuality - freedom); and Knowledge(a desire to discover what makes the other "tick," an active penetration of the other person).
Calvino Rabeni: Unquote
Paradise Tennant: smiles
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes something I would like to read, I ve been seeing lately were people fall in the cracks, health care wise
SophiaSharon Larnia: where*
Paradise Tennant: distressing
SophiaSharon Larnia: it is
SophiaSharon Larnia: and my intervention is hopeless sometimes'
stevenaia Michinaga: how distant is this from compassion, or just an essential beginning
SophiaSharon Larnia: or at least, perceived that way atm
Paradise Tennant: sophia is an excellent example of compassion in action
Paradise Tennant: being moved to try to help
SophiaSharon Larnia: ha! I want to bang phones in peoples ears (not that I have, yet)
Paradise Tennant: active concern for the life and growth of that which we love
SophiaSharon Larnia: phones*
SophiaSharon Larnia: part of warrior ship is controlling that thwarted child
SophiaSharon Larnia: although I don’t know what I mean by that :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles our inner child is important
Paradise Tennant: should never really grow up 100%
Paradise Tennant: smiles
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes! I was thinking today, what does that child need, to not be so angry
Paradise Tennant: more play
SophiaSharon Larnia: idk
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: can I suggest a little late we breathe and think spacious big :)
Calvino Rabeni: The child needs a certain type of contact with reality... the nature of which varies between different people I believe
SophiaSharon Larnia: I started thinking of the song by the who, I can see for miles
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol'
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: I think our inner child has a different view of reality
stevenaia Michinaga: even before the bell I was thinking the specialness of spaciousness is the ability to see around things... you view of the world is not blocked
Paradise Tennant: kind of more elastic
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: not constrained
stevenaia Michinaga: unconfined view
Paradise Tennant: not concentrated
Paradise Tennant: or ego driven
Paradise Tennant: more a of let go perspective
Paradise Tennant: less fear too
SophiaSharon Larnia: is a child very ego driven, I see a child as one where ego is blurred a bit
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, when older but very young
Paradise Tennant: hmm always connect child with joy
Paradise Tennant: expansive joy
SophiaSharon Larnia: look my thwarted teenager :) ha-ha
Calvino Rabeni: that sounds nice, but might not be the only / main ingredient in the recipe for how to create a great human being
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: how would you cook one cal :)
stevenaia Michinaga: or how would you define great
Calvino Rabeni: he he by providing a variety of different learning experiences, mostly successful
Calvino Rabeni: so they learn to enjoy and fare well in many different ways
Paradise Tennant: listens
Calvino Rabeni: flexible, strong, resilient
Calvino Rabeni: secure, adventurous
Calvino Rabeni: humble, assertive
Calvino Rabeni: loving and fierce
Calvino Rabeni: wild and calm
Calvino Rabeni: well focused, determined
Calvino Rabeni: easygoing, accepting
Calvino Rabeni: integrating many opposites
Paradise Tennant: full spectrum
Calvino Rabeni: yes
Calvino Rabeni: a child only thwarted and oppressed would either collapse or always be embattled
Paradise Tennant: did flames just come out of your head cal ? :)
Calvino Rabeni: one never challenged would never learn their own strength and will
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Paradise Tennant: or are my eyes blurry
Calvino Rabeni: No, it is objectively present on this avatar
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Calvino Rabeni: If an avatar wears a mask, is it hiding?
Paradise Tennant: hmmm
Paradise Tennant: sort of do not believe in masks
Paradise Tennant: whatever you present is some aspect of you
Paradise Tennant: we are all just a whole lot bigger than we realize
Calvino Rabeni: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: yes some people I know collect them for what reason?
Paradise Tennant: yes on my bedroom wall I have a collection of Tara masks
Paradise Tennant: all beautiful serene
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
SophiaSharon Larnia: very nice attachment Cal
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: oh wow
Paradise Tennant: smiles laughing
SophiaSharon Larnia: very creative, and simple!
Calvino Rabeni: it is
stevenaia Michinaga: yes wow
Calvino Rabeni: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia wants to make one now :D
Paradise Tennant: :) great toy !
Calvino Rabeni: when people speak they reveal something for a short time
Calvino Rabeni: then the mask comes back
Calvino Rabeni: or so goes the art theory of this
SophiaSharon Larnia: the flames have your avi picture on them too?
Calvino Rabeni: it never made it into the art of being project
Calvino Rabeni: yes they do
SophiaSharon Larnia: kewl
Paradise Tennant: your creation cal :)
Calvino Rabeni: yes
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: would have been great in the art of being project
Paradise Tennant: shall we think of masks ..dropping .. or embracing whatever aspect of ourseleve they represent ?
Paradise Tennant: we talk of authentic presence or our real selves
Calvino Rabeni: we do
SophiaSharon Larnia: alot of my real self i don’t talk about here
Calvino Rabeni: of course
Paradise Tennant: I often wonder what that really means because for the most part .. we only capture a tiny bit of us in what we think of as me ..
Calvino Rabeni: Yes so authenticity would also encompass the parts of self we don't capture
Paradise Tennant: masks and all :))))))
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Calvino Rabeni: So that's why it can be surprising / confusing to people
Calvino Rabeni: and they can't just "decide" to "be authentic"
Calvino Rabeni: because they have no idea those non-conceptual aspects of themselves are
Paradise Tennant: smiles shall we talk of our no conceptual bits or is that too hard to put to conceptual based words
Calvino Rabeni: We can talk "about" the unknown
Calvino Rabeni: it's hard to bring it into real presence though
Calvino Rabeni: like to set up descriptions that really evoke and resonate with it
SophiaSharon Larnia: for me it is :) So much 'felt', 'intuited' blurry lines between knowing what is 'real' and what is made up by my self
Calvino Rabeni: but yes, referring to it categorically can work
Calvino Rabeni: Like a puppet trying to get a clear notion of the puppeteer
Paradise Tennant: or capturing the energy
Calvino Rabeni: evoking
Calvino Rabeni: invoking
Calvino Rabeni: or pro-
Paradise Tennant: yes it is both
Calvino Rabeni: other kinds of -voking
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: voking ourselves
Paradise Tennant: into being
Paradise Tennant: spacious
Paradise Tennant: complete
Paradise Tennant: one with the whole
stevenaia Michinaga: aren’t our avatars our puppets
stevenaia Michinaga: it had no concept up the typist
Calvino Rabeni: Or also our personalities
Calvino Rabeni: personas
Paradise Tennant: smiles hmm always kind of think of little Blondie as a cartoon but she is not blonde anymore
stevenaia Michinaga: *of
Paradise Tennant: hmm
Paradise Tennant: when I first started sl
Paradise Tennant: occasionally little Blondie would do something that seemed of her own accord
Paradise Tennant: always made me jump
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: not use to the surreal nature of the place
Calvino Rabeni: Occasionally an avatar's eyes will turn and stare and get a brief feeling of something looking out
Calvino Rabeni: then I go .nahhhh :)
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: I always get a sense of the typist's presence
SophiaSharon Larnia: I've felt that too
Paradise Tennant: can usually feel the big parts of the picture male female happy sad ..
stevenaia Michinaga: I do exactly that with my cat, the he looks as deeply at the wall as he was looking into my eyes just a moment ago
SophiaSharon Larnia: ill pick up calm cheerful, chaotic dark
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: smiles
SophiaSharon Larnia: :) Steve
Calvino Rabeni: Or you get a hunch of who's avatar it is
Paradise Tennant: animals like to look away eye to eye contact is aggressive in the animal kingdom usually
SophiaSharon Larnia: I've done that too, and may or may not be right
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: though I find alts difficult to read sometimes
Calvino Rabeni: except when cats trust you or are in love
Calvino Rabeni: they have a straight gaze
Paradise Tennant: adoring
Paradise Tennant: animals radiate love sometimes in a way that you can touch almost tangible
SophiaSharon Larnia: gtg and finish some work stuff :) Goodnight!
SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you all
Calvino Rabeni: Bye Sophia
stevenaia Michinaga: night sophia
stevenaia Michinaga: I should be off too
Paradise Tennant: good nite sophia
Paradise Tennant: nite nite steve
stevenaia Michinaga: may be shoveling snow tomorrow
Paradise Tennant: smiles we have big load here to nite
Paradise Tennant: was walking by snow angels in the park
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: night cal, Paradise
Calvino Rabeni: Good Night :)
Calvino Rabeni: Water is strange stuff, and as ice it has so many different forms
Paradise Tennant: hmm this is making me think of a poem I use to read in junior high
Paradise Tennant: one sec goes to her book shelf
Paradise Tennant: hmm
Paradise Tennant: was in the oxford anthology of verse
Paradise Tennant: about talking into the night until the fires ebbed
Paradise Tennant: dated from roman time
Paradise Tennant: people love to talk :)
Paradise Tennant: when I was kid use to like to fall asleep to the murmur of voices ...my parents talking of the day
Paradise Tennant: sorry I interrupted water ..ice ?
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Calvino Rabeni: what we have here is not that often "Life as a Laboratory"
Calvino Rabeni: More often, Canterbury Tales
Paradise Tennant: more like life at shared
Paradise Tennant: life as shared
Calvino Rabeni: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
Calvino Rabeni: Water behaving strangely
Paradise Tennant: why Canterbury tales you know you are going to make me end up rereading it and I found it hard going the first time
Calvino Rabeni: forming little columns that grow day after day
Calvino Rabeni: Maybe there's a good translation
Calvino Rabeni: I'm not a purist who'd try to read it in the original
Calvino Rabeni: but like a translation that has flavor though
Paradise Tennant: I’ve only read the original
Calvino Rabeni: There are some side by side versions
Paradise Tennant: hmm
Calvino Rabeni: the original and the translation on facing pages
Paradise Tennant: is it a favorite book for you
Calvino Rabeni: it's a time machine
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: not the Jules Verne kind
Calvino Rabeni: also a bold transition in the history of literature
Calvino Rabeni: No, not the Jules Verne kind
Calvino Rabeni: You know the word anamnesis?
Calvino Rabeni: That kind of time machine
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: no
Paradise Tennant: blinks and wikis
Calvino Rabeni: Hmm I guess it comes from the classics
Calvino Rabeni: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Aanamnesis
Calvino Rabeni: it means recapturing something essential through imaginative inquiry into the past
Calvino Rabeni: an art of interpretation
Paradise Tennant: yes I know that
Calvino Rabeni: Some people say "science fiction" is more properly "speculative history"
Paradise Tennant: I once .. won a math contest city wide by doing a test really fast .. but I do not think I solved the problems it felt like I just remembered the answers.
Calvino Rabeni: Same imaginative skills as to do a good historical novel
Paradise Tennant: loss of forgetfulness
Paradise Tennant: so beautifully put
Calvino Rabeni: That's interesting
Calvino Rabeni: yes
Paradise Tennant: The transliteration of a Greek word for "remembering." Plato argued that we learn by remembering what we learned before coming to this world.
Calvino Rabeni: I like that phrase too "loss of forgetfulness" in that it suggests a more original knowing
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: I think we all have that
Calvino Rabeni: like a deeper source perhaps
Paradise Tennant: touched that in moments
Calvino Rabeni: (which was the contemplative exercise for the afternoon session here)
Paradise Tennant: ahh
Paradise Tennant: ones I never get to go too
Paradise Tennant: but I do like reading the logs
Calvino Rabeni: Because of work
Paradise Tennant: yep
Calvino Rabeni: The logs are nice for that
Calvino Rabeni: Do you start to feel like
Calvino Rabeni: reading a story that has episodes
Calvino Rabeni: episodes
Calvino Rabeni: and familiar characters, an ongoing narrative momentum
Calvino Rabeni: and maybe we're actors in it too?
Paradise Tennant: I think you get to know people .. their lives .. outlooks
Paradise Tennant: in the old days people wrote letters
Calvino Rabeni: Like more than a log, it's an ongoing story
Calvino Rabeni: Yes
Paradise Tennant: many many letters that if you read them back to back would tell the story of their lives
Calvino Rabeni: And maybe that's anamnesis to remember or recover how to do that
Paradise Tennant: more and more I think it is just one .. life and we each maybe only take turns between being a vowel or consonant
Paradise Tennant: or a shhh sound
Paradise Tennant: smiles think I would like being the shhh sound best
Paradise Tennant: lol
Calvino Rabeni: Good thing we have all the sounds, the vowels and the stops, the fricatives, plosives and the rest for good emphasis
Calvino Rabeni: to shape sound\
Paradise Tennant: lol fricative !
Calvino Rabeni: into an artful expression
Calvino Rabeni: some words evoke their meaning nicely
Calvino Rabeni: like "orality"
Paradise Tennant: booom
Paradise Tennant: ouch
Paradise Tennant: smooch
Paradise Tennant: smoosh
Calvino Rabeni: orality ends with a smile
Paradise Tennant: whooosh
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Calvino Rabeni: fly
Paradise Tennant: up
Paradise Tennant: down
Paradise Tennant: so many
Paradise Tennant: words are like little gifts
Paradise Tennant: really can capture
Paradise Tennant: the intangible
Paradise Tennant: with a exhalation of breath
Paradise Tennant: but not all of it
Paradise Tennant: big bits
Paradise Tennant: you just cannot fit into words
Paradise Tennant: or exhalations of breath
Calvino Rabeni: fun to play with
Paradise Tennant: yes they are like toys
Paradise Tennant: numbers to o
Paradise Tennant: toys
Calvino Rabeni: like you have two decks of cards with words
Calvino Rabeni: maybe one with nouns and one with adjectives
Calvino Rabeni: and pick one of each at random
--BELL--
Calvino Rabeni: so the noun says "creampuff" and the adjective or quality word says "triumphant" or "dire" - you say it and someone else guesses the quality
Paradise Tennant: do you ever play the dictionary game .. little scraps of paper try to find a word no one knows say it out load spell it .the person with the book writes down the real meaning every one else makes one up .. whoever with the most votes as being right gets the most points that round then the dictionary passes to the next person
Calvino Rabeni: (an acting school exercise)
Calvino Rabeni: Yes I've played that game
Paradise Tennant: like it very well
Paradise Tennant: did fine arts course in university some improv
Paradise Tennant: always found I laughed too much
Paradise Tennant: banana or humans impersonating bananas should not be giggling
Paradise Tennant: just not fruit like
Calvino Rabeni: During the pause, I remember some song, which was partly talk, and the leader said ... "Now, one more time! With Feeling!"
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: there are some great songs
Paradise Tennant: great singers
Paradise Tennant: was listening to my favorite cd today ..an old one,  hymns of the 49th parallel
Paradise Tennant: well hard to say a favorite cd
Paradise Tennant: there are so many
Calvino Rabeni: One thing that seems really hard .. at least to me, is to find the lyrics to a song, and then read them in the style and cadence of natural conversation
Paradise Tennant: song captures something beyond words ..
Paradise Tennant: hard to do
Calvino Rabeni: quite
Paradise Tennant: lyrics are set to the cadence of the music meant to be sung
Calvino Rabeni: It's easier to take conversation and sing it
Paradise Tennant: yes you can sing the phone book
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Calvino Rabeni: Or the instructions on medication
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: smiles looking for that poem
Paradise Tennant: going to bother me now
Calvino Rabeni: Or to carry a conversation only in tone, while reading the street signs during a long drive
Calvino Rabeni: What poem was it? Did you try web search?
Paradise Tennant: smiles everyone I know who has gotten older seems to take great joy in reading street signs
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: Do not have enough of it to search properly.
Calvino Rabeni: Which edition? Maybe I have it
Paradise Tennant: hmm hard to find the book in my many books
Paradise Tennant: old version of the oxford anthology of verse
Paradise Tennant: one sec
Paradise Tennant: let me look again
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: nope
Paradise Tennant: not there
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Paradise Tennant: well the jist of it was the joy of talking till the fires ebbed and the dawn broke :) the joy of friendship .. lives shared :) but with a roman lilt :)
Paradise Tennant: sometimes I think our lives are defined but what we share
Paradise Tennant: when we were talking of the appeal of sl ..by far I think the most addictive part is the sense of community
Paradise Tennant: belonging
Paradise Tennant: connection
Calvino Rabeni: what we recognize in the spaces we inhabit together
Paradise Tennant: that is more accepting on some levels because it is out of bounds
Paradise Tennant: yes
Calvino Rabeni: I like the group meetings I go to in RL quite a bit
Calvino Rabeni: and hardly at all because of the "content"
Paradise Tennant: yes
Calvino Rabeni: although having something everyone is interested in
Paradise Tennant: rl has sl topped by a huge margin .more data :)
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: richer tactile .. experience
Paradise Tennant: smiles at you .. fading fast .. ..here .. think I will have to say adieu and give blue his last chance to make a snow angel :)
Calvino Rabeni: leads to them showing up and sharing enjoyment
Calvino Rabeni: Ok
Calvino Rabeni: Dog snow angel?
Paradise Tennant: thank you cal ..for the company - the conversation . and for the loss of forgetfulness
Calvino Rabeni: big smile, Paradise
Paradise Tennant: lol at the very least he will make it his own with an addition:)
Calvino Rabeni: good night, say hi t Blue
Calvino Rabeni: he he
Paradise Tennant: yep going to whistle him up now >>:) big wave and a little pouf :)
Calvino Rabeni: AArf!
Paradise Tennant: Namaste
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Paradise Tennant: dream well .. hope you get your rabbit !
Calvino Rabeni: Thanks :)