2011.01.31 13:00 - The Neverending Story

The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Aggie

Bleu Oleander: hi Agatha and Aph

Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bleu :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: I think Aphro is afk
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm back!
Agatha Macbeth: Or she may be back...
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Aph, welcome aboard
Aphrodite Macbain: Can't you read my text? Oh dear.
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh good. Tx Aggie
Aphrodite Macbain: I like your art work Bleu
Agatha Macbeth grins
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Arch
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Arch, Hi Koya
Archmage Atlantis: Hello Agatha, Bleu, Aph
Agatha Macbeth: And Koya too
Bleu Oleander: hey ty Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: I clicked on your board but didn't get a text yet
Bleu Oleander: I put a notecard there
Bleu Oleander: hmmm
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh. strange.
Bleu Oleander: both not working?
Aphrodite Macbain: I "touched" it but nothing happened
Archmage Atlantis: Is there a general flow in the coversation (oft called a topic)
Aphrodite Macbain: no. not 4 me anyway
Agatha Macbeth: Not yet it seems
Archmage Atlantis: Ok
Aphrodite Macbain: no arch. Bleu and I are jut talking about the art as being exhibit
Aphrodite Macbain: just
Wol Euler: hello aph, bleu, arch, aggers
Bleu Oleander: hey Wol
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm still trying to get my act together
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Wollage :)
Archmage Atlantis: I must admit I am a bit unsure of what to bring to the exhibit
Bleu Oleander: just heard a great Metanomics talk
Aphrodite Macbain: Wol! Great to see you
Agatha Macbeth: Great what?
Aphrodite Macbain: what is metanomics Bleu?
Agatha Macbeth: Yeah
Bleu Oleander: on sl/rl
Archmage Atlantis: MetaWol?
Bleu Oleander: embodiment
Wol Euler: oh, with Tom ... thingy
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Bleu Oleander: yeah
Wol Euler: Bukowski?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: huh?
Aphrodite Macbain: where?
Agatha Macbeth: I like Tom Thingy better
Bleu Oleander: Metanomics
Wol Euler: I'm sorry to have missd that
Bleu Oleander: very good comments from audience
Aphrodite Macbain: I have absolutely no idea what metanomics is
Archmage Atlantis: Do any of you listen to the music of Eliot Fisk?
Agatha Macbeth: Me either
Wol Euler: he was one of the first people to examine SL as a social phenomenon, not just a game
Aphrodite Macbain: nope
Archmage Atlantis: He was a student of Segovia
Wol Euler: wrote "Coming of age in SL"
Agatha Macbeth: It isn't a game
  --BELL--
Wol Euler: no, don'T know it
Bleu Oleander: METANOMICS Live every Monday At NOON/SLT! Event Partner Landing Hub: http://tr.im/C7dH
Aphrodite Macbain: ah. I'd like to find out what he said so I can explain this better to all my friends
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :)
Wol Euler: eliza! hello!!
Bleu Oleander: hi Zon
Wol Euler: welcome back
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Liz :)
Zon Kwan: hey all
Agatha Macbeth: And zon#
Bleu Oleander: good retreat?
Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Zon
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Thank you!
Wol Euler: hello zon
Archmage Atlantis: Greetings Eliza, Zon
Eliza Madrigal: yes...quite dynamic
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Eliza
Bleu Oleander: highlights thursday?
Eliza Madrigal: yes, seems that is the master plan
Aphrodite Macbain: Please tell us more Eliza
Wol Euler: what time?
Bleu Oleander: 1pm?
Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, fire away Liz
Eliza Madrigal: mmm, hard to know where to start. It will be 1pm Lia's session
Wol Euler: ty
Archmage Atlantis: No, my stylist says hightlights are for younger people, that I should stay with salt n pepper
Aphrodite Macbain: Or maybe you'll save the summary until Thursday
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Wol Euler: :)
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Eliza Madrigal: I've been trying to write about it...
Aphrodite Macbain: arch... :-)
Eliza Madrigal: so I may post something before then to the guardian contributions
Agatha Macbeth grinz
Aphrodite Macbain: in the Chronicles Eliza?
Bleu Oleander: hi Qt
Eliza Madrigal: For now, i've posted an audio to the NO retreat page
Archmage Atlantis: Hello Qt
Eliza Madrigal: Aph, no...just the contributions
Aphrodite Macbain: Ciao QT
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Qt :)
Wol Euler: hello qt
Qt Core: Hi all, ciao Aphro
Aphrodite Macbain: There is a NO retreat page?
Eliza Madrigal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Retreats/2011-01_New_Orleans%2c_USA
Archmage Atlantis: Ciao Aphrodite......sounds almost classical
Eliza Madrigal: this is the info page for now... I added the mp3 at the bottom
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes- Roman rather than Greek perhaps!
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks liza
Qt Core: i may try with ave next time, then ;-)
Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: after the session Eos will possibly pull together all the reports and such as he usually does, but for now this is one act that we were able to see...
Aphrodite Macbain: I'll change my ame to Maria
Aphrodite Macbain: name
Aphrodite Macbain: QT
Qt Core: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera Qt
Qt Core: 'sera Agatha
Archmage Atlantis: ave maria.....that's a town here in SW Florida
Aphrodite Macbain: un altro!! Bennissimo
Aphrodite Macbain: a town called ave maria?
Qt Core: (that make me imagine my mother (her first name is Maria) in SL, a strange thought :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: Benissimo
Archmage Atlantis: yes, founded by a conservative catholici
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: There ya go
Archmage Atlantis: with a university
Archmage Atlantis: Jesuits gone wild......you know how spring break is here
Bleu Oleander: nice audio post Eliza
Bleu Oleander: a snippet of NO
Wol Euler: veyr nice :)(
Wol Euler: *very
Eliza Madrigal: :) I had to edit it down quite a bit...
Eliza Madrigal: have a few
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, well not I, Gaya actually...
Eliza Madrigal: the original has laughter and silliness...
Eliza Madrigal: but nice way to tie this retreat and Nova Scotia together :)
Aphrodite Macbain: sounds good!
Wol Euler: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: laughter and silliness
Wol Euler: what's wrong wit a little laughter and silliness?
Eliza Madrigal: :) yes, and that particular song
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, nothing wrong...just made too large a file :)
Agatha Macbeth: Truly
Wol Euler: ah :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Aphrodite Macbain: silliness takes up a lot of space...
Eliza Madrigal: its the googly eyes
Aphrodite Macbain: and laughter fills it
Archmage Atlantis: Is anyone attending the lecture series on Sun Tsu and the Art of War?
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, when/where is that Arch?
Aphrodite Macbain: no.
Wol Euler: didn't know there was one.
Aphrodite Macbain: who or what is Sun Tsyu?
Aphrodite Macbain: Tsu
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds familiar
Wol Euler: was a Chinese general/philosopher who wrote one of hte first books of strategy (theory of warfare, not just hitting the opponent)
Bleu Oleander: so he's the one :)
Aphrodite Macbain: tactics?
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Bleu
Wol Euler: that too, perhaps :)
Agatha Macbeth: A kind of chinese Clauswitz then?
Aphrodite Macbain: strategy?
Wol Euler: yeah :)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Qt Core: used in last decades tr train management
Wol Euler nods.
Aphrodite Macbain: how would it apply to management? strategy and tactics?
Archmage Atlantis: He is the one, that has elements of rezzing in it Bleu
Wol Euler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, so
Eliza Madrigal: from wiki: He thought that strategy was not planning in the sense of working through an established list, but rather that it requires quick and appropriate responses to changing conditions. Planning works in a controlled environment, but in a changing environment, competing plans collide, creating unexpected situations.
Archmage Atlantis: One order of chop souey plse, Aggie
Qt Core: changing word and financial acts for archery and swords the tricks are the same
Wol Euler smiles and nods
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
Bleu Oleander: :)
  --BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: Has anyone been to the cathedral of La Sagrada Familia?
Aphrodite Macbain: and then there's his son, Sun Bin...
Agatha Macbeth: SL or RL Arch?
Wol Euler: nope
Wol Euler: neither
Aphrodite Macbain: Wish I have
Archmage Atlantis: either l
Aphrodite Macbain: amazing architecture - Gaudi - why do you ask?
Archmage Atlantis: It is a piece of the same story
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh?
Archmage Atlantis: well, at least as I see the story
Aphrodite Macbain: with Chinese art of war?
Aphrodite Macbain scratches her head
Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
Aphrodite Macbain: what story are you referring to?
Wol Euler: you'll need to expand on that a little, Arch :)
Aphrodite Macbain: or not.Maybe it's a koan
Bleu Oleander: take care everyone ....
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleu
Qt Core: bye Bleu
Wol Euler: bye bleu
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Blue!
Archmage Atlantis: entitykind is always at war.....kind entitiy is always at peace
Aphrodite Macbain: entity kind??
Agatha Macbeth ponders
Aphrodite Macbain: is that a koan? entity kind= human kind?
Aphrodite Macbain is away right now and has not broken her neck
Aphrodite Macbain: afk
Eliza Madrigal: that's rather interseting Arch...
Eliza Madrigal: *interesting
Eliza Madrigal: "always at war" v "always at peace"
Archmage Atlantis: The poet sees
Qt Core: entity kind = multiple separate entities kind entity only one big entity ?
Wol Euler: personkind (non-sexist vocabulary)
Agatha Macbeth: Wow, that charch looks like something from outer space
Agatha Macbeth: church
Agatha Macbeth: even
Eliza Madrigal: :) qt
Aphrodite Macbain: I like your translation QT
Agatha Macbeth: That is a seriously amazing building
Qt Core: well, it still needs Arch seal of approval, Aphro
Archmage Atlantis: I must go.....ty friends......blessing and namaste
Wol Euler: bye arch, take care
Eliza Madrigal: so does the UU church I used to attend... hah really like a spaceship: http://www.uumia.org/
Qt Core: bye arch
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Arch, take care
Eliza Madrigal: (Bye arch)
Eliza Madrigal: (oh and blue) :)
Eliza Madrigal: *bleu
Eliza Madrigal: sheesh what is with my fingers today... not enough typing for a week
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! arch
Wol Euler: that looks like a F L Wright building, ELiza.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: See what you mean Liz
Wol Euler: or one of his students
Agatha Macbeth: Where's the water
Aphrodite Macbain: who is/was the architect?
Eliza Madrigal: good question....
Aphrodite Macbain: It makes me think of the Sidney opera house
Aphrodite Macbain: clean lines, sails
Eliza Madrigal: Arthur Rude... I think it reads... hmm
Agatha Macbeth: Good name
Eliza Madrigal: nope, wrong snippet
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Aphrodite Macbain: I don't think he's like Gaudi's work at all
Eliza Madrigal: haha but yes great name
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Wol Euler: yeah, the satellite view in google maps doesn'T look like Wright. Too recent, that's a simple concrete shell
Eliza Madrigal: just in being spaceship like Aph :)
Agatha Macbeth: 'I can't design a church, but I have a great name'
Aphrodite Macbain: ah
Agatha Macbeth: Fair trade off
Aphrodite Macbain: Do you attend that church Eliza - looks interesting
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: http://www.docomomofl.org/news.html
Eliza Madrigal: yes I did, for a little while, they still have jazz concerts I try to go to
Eliza Madrigal: and a weekly buddhist meeting :) but I don't attend that anymore
Eliza Madrigal: wish I'd raised the kids there actually
Eliza Madrigal: haha...none of the pics on this page are that church either, sigh
Aphrodite Macbain: They are still very relevant today unlike many other denominations
  --BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: Did eeveryone get my email requesting regular funding support for PaB?
Qt Core: while i attended service there only a couple time in my life i have a strange (good) feeling about it like it is a bigger brother
Qt Core: forgot the subject... Milan Duomo
Eliza Madrigal: there is a nice core group of folks who keep it going but because it is so liberal people just wander in and out and maybe don't organize much, hah
Aphrodite Macbain: there= the unitarian church QT?
Eliza Madrigal: ah, here are the architects: Earl Starnes and Joseph Rentshcer.
Eliza Madrigal: (couldn't stop til I had that, hahah)
Wol Euler: haven't checked lately,aph,sorry
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) nice to recognize thm
Aphrodite Macbain: I sent it yesterday
Eliza Madrigal: they call it a hyperbolic parabola
Qt Core: got it Aph
Eliza Madrigal: excellent email Aph, thanks for that
Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a good parabola
Aphrodite Macbain: yw Storm gave me the facts and I shaped and tweeked them
Eliza Madrigal: that's what I always say
Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes it read very clearly and simply...
Aphrodite Macbain: especially a hyperbolic one
Eliza Madrigal: does seem basic...would be nice to have the group be self-sustaining
Agatha Macbeth: Hypothetical hyerbolic paabola?
Agatha Macbeth: r
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- for less than 2 lattes
Aphrodite Macbain: a month
Agatha Macbeth: Whatever happened to the latte guy?
Qt Core: with imaginary roots obviously ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: The one who used to come to PaB
Aphrodite Macbain: Is that what his name is?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi cybersufi, cute name
Eliza Madrigal: imaginary roots and wings
Agatha Macbeth: Can't remember his name
Eliza Madrigal: parabola in the sky
Wol Euler: oh, hmmmmmmmm
Wol Euler: damn, yes, latteman
cybersufi Resident: hello everyone
Agatha Macbeth: Isen somebodyorother?
Eliza Madrigal: Enzo?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes!
Aphrodite Macbain: ah. Hello cyberstuff
Qt Core: hi cybersufi
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes I miss seeing Isen around
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, hello
Wol Euler: welcome to SL, cybersufi. 14 days old :)
Aphrodite Macbain: oops cybersufi
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: have you been here before?
Aphrodite Macbain: please take a cushion Cyber
Agatha Macbeth: He has :)
Wol Euler: ok, good :)
cybersufi Resident: young again, different incarnation
Wol Euler: ah :)))))
Aphrodite Macbain: how doesthis incarnation feel?
Agatha Macbeth: It's probably Zen again! ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: curioser and curioser
Eliza Madrigal: hahahahah Ag
cybersufi Resident: been about 3 years since last one so well rested
Eliza Madrigal: Do you have sufi stories for us Cyber?
cybersufi Resident: many if you like
Eliza Madrigal: Ohhh yes we like those!
Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, how's Idris Shah?
Aphrodite Macbain: Please tell us one
cybersufi Resident: still dead I here
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
cybersufi Resident: I knew him well only inderectly, some contact with his brothers group Omar before he passed on
Aphrodite Macbain: Who was he
cybersufi Resident: but my linage is more from the western hermetic branch, witha bit of Chan Zen, and Taoism
cybersufi Resident: thin tick
Agatha Macbeth: Thought you'd gone Arch
Eliza Madrigal: oh very interesting cyber...
cybersufi Resident: excellent program
Wol Euler: wb arch
Aphrodite Macbain: what program?
Eliza Madrigal: so now you are a puzzle... chan zen piece over here, tao over there, sufi in another spot...
Archmage Atlantis: I am with you always
Archmage Atlantis: Always wanted to say that
Agatha Macbeth: Someone else said that once...
Eliza Madrigal: will be an interesting story you tell Cyber :)
Archmage Atlantis: Cheap theatrics
Eliza Madrigal: haah Arch and Ag...
Agatha Macbeth: Naaw
Wol Euler nods to aggs
Eliza Madrigal: you forgot the "lo"
Agatha Macbeth: Io isn't here ;-)
Archmage Atlantis: I know the lo
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
Aphrodite Macbain: But fun and silliness
Agatha Macbeth: Io Silver
Aphrodite Macbain: awayyyy
Agatha Macbeth hears William Tell
Aphrodite Macbain: and I wil follow...
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
Archmage Atlantis: oft the first, there 3 they be, the man , the girl and the snake is he
Wol Euler: stop
Wol Euler: onigokko
Aphrodite Macbain: onigokko
Agatha Macbeth: Too late
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: gosh you're tall Aph
Archmage Atlantis: Oh ook
  --BELL--
Wol Euler: wow, yes.
Aphrodite Macbain: hhh and it isn't even friday!
Agatha Macbeth: She's a beeeeg beeeeetch
Aphrodite Macbain: stop
Agatha Macbeth: Ooops
Eliza Madrigal: stop
Agatha Macbeth: Aphro's in orbit
Eliza Madrigal: off the chain...
Aphrodite Macbain: stop
Eliza Madrigal: please stop?
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: STOP
Agatha Macbeth: Halten bitte
Archmage Atlantis: onigokko
Wol Euler: eeep
Agatha Macbeth: Arette s'il vous plait
Archmage Atlantis: 
Eliza Madrigal: stop
Wol Euler: stop
Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
Wol Euler: meh
cybersufi Resident: Well Eliza not as much of a puzzle as it seems , generally there is cross pollenation after all Idries Shah's family where the custodians of a buddish temple
Archmage Atlantis: ONIGOKKO
Archmage Atlantis: onigokko
Agatha Macbeth: They were?
Eliza Madrigal: I'm interested to hear more Cyber... it only looks like Im being distracted...
cybersufi Resident: I see we have a high percentage of whirlers here lol
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Archmage Atlantis: tHE SNAKES ARE OUT OF THE BOX
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Archmage Atlantis: STOP
Agatha Macbeth: Is it Friday?
Wol Euler: stop
Wol Euler: must be friday somewhere.
Archmage Atlantis: lollipop
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Honolulu?
Agatha Macbeth wonders where Aphro went
Archmage Atlantis: lolli
cybersufi Resident: there is a saying in sufi circles that people percieve the different traditions as being in competition with each other when in fact they are fingers of the one hand
Eliza Madrigal: ah, nice...
Agatha Macbeth: Did someone drop an onigokko?
Archmage Atlantis: The sufi have wisdom
Agatha Macbeth: Cos i still hear one
Archmage Atlantis: stop
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
cybersufi Resident: so would you like a story then
Eliza Madrigal: yes it really can't be otherwise...
Eliza Madrigal: yes very much so
Agatha Macbeth: Yes please
cybersufi Resident: any particular theme
Qt Core: sleeptime for me, bye all
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm
Agatha Macbeth: Ciao Qt
Eliza Madrigal: Night Qt
Wol Euler: ciao qt
Qt Core: Ciao
Eliza Madrigal: Perhaps generosity or humility
cybersufi Resident: ok I will see what I can pull out the hat for you
Zon Kwan: ''''
Zon Kwan: .
Agatha Macbeth waits for the rabbit
Eliza Madrigal perks up
Agatha Macbeth: (not the rabbi)
Archmage Atlantis: A rabbit has more to teach than a rabbi?
buxar Shamen: good morning ...good night
Eliza Madrigal: Hello buxar, cybersufi is going to tell us a story :)
Wol Euler: hello buxar
Eliza Madrigal: we are all at the edge of our cushions
buxar Shamen: uwww :D
buxar Shamen: yey!
Agatha Macbeth: Who said that?
Wol Euler: have you been here before?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
buxar Shamen: im lugh
Wol Euler: ah! ok
Agatha Macbeth: Oh hello
buxar Shamen: ling stpry dont ask
Agatha Macbeth: Oh it's you Lugh
buxar Shamen: hehe :) hey agatha :D
Agatha Macbeth: I've got a bag like that
Archmage Atlantis: I do not beleive it is Lugh....l.only an imposter
Agatha Macbeth: Or his sister
Wol Euler sniffs. Smells like Lugh.
buxar Shamen: :P
Agatha Macbeth: Ask him something in Maltese
buxar Shamen: im running from responsibility
Agatha Macbeth: You too?
Wol Euler: snap
Archmage Atlantis: As a desendent of Dracul, I can smell what he is
buxar Shamen: no shame in taking the easy way out
Agatha Macbeth: Good old Vlad
Eliza Madrigal: uh oh.... must be a big hat
Wol Euler: oh dear, we bored cybersufi to sleep
Agatha Macbeth: Poor dear
buxar Shamen: hehee now where that story!!
Eliza Madrigal: we mezmerized him with our onigokkos
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like we'll never hear it
buxar Shamen: is he new?
Wol Euler: once upon a time, there was a rabbit who wanted more than anything else, to be a rabbi.
Eliza Madrigal: hehehehe
Wol Euler: (we take turns, one line at a time)
Archmage Atlantis: lolli
Agatha Macbeth: Not so much the neverending story as the never beginning one
buxar Shamen: :P hehe
Eliza Madrigal laughing hard
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, hello
cybersufi Resident: patience
buxar Shamen: yeeeyy!!
Agatha Macbeth: Doctors
Wol Euler: boom boom
Agatha Macbeth: Basil
buxar Shamen: sory mate nice name bdw i like sufis pls to meet you an di shut up now
cybersufi Resident: The Rich Man's State
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Johnathan?
cybersufi Resident: A Millionaire decided to vist a sufi, to obtain his blessing,
  --BELL--
cybersufi Resident: He made a long journey, accompanied by a glittering retinue,
cybersufi Resident: and arrived at last at the sage's home.
cybersufi Resident: 'O illuminated one!'
Archmage Atlantis: Pla, pls.. update this to Billionaire......Millionaires are a diamond a dozen
Eliza Madrigal listening...
cybersufi Resident: The rich man cried as he entered the presence, 'Teacher whose invocations are always answered
cybersufi Resident: say a prayer for me!"
cybersufi Resident: The sufi asked, 'What prayer would you have me say?"
cybersufi Resident: 'Ask', requested the man of wealth, 'that I should never fall to a lower state than I am right now in'
cybersufi Resident: The Sufi agreed, and the prayer was said.
cybersufi Resident: some years later, the Sufi entered a miserable caravanserai to find a begger, dressed in rags, who at once attacked him.
cybersufi Resident: I'I am the Magnate who you prayed for, you false and villainous so-called Sufi!' he screamed.
Eliza Madrigal: hmm...
cybersufi Resident: The Sufi said, 'What , more preciesly, is your complaint?'
cybersufi Resident: 'Complaint? Look at me, begging and unhappy...'
cybersufi Resident: 'Your pryer,' the sufi told him, 'was indeed answered. Your state was greed and insecurity, and you are still powerfully in its grasp.
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: ah, so a story of seeing the way things are...both humility and generosity (in showing its lack) THANK YOU!
Agatha Macbeth: ***** APPPPPPPLLLLAAAUUUSSSSeeee***********
Agatha Macbeth: clap
Eliza Madrigal: :)
cybersufi Resident: your most welcome
buxar Shamen: clap clap calp butiful story
cybersufi Resident: worth a little wait was it not lol
Eliza Madrigal: also 'dropping what we have to see what we are'
Eliza Madrigal: yes, haha
Agatha Macbeth: All comesto he who waits
Eliza Madrigal: Patience is something we (I) need many stories about :)
buxar Shamen: have you ever meat a real live sufi?
cybersufi Resident: many times but most do not call themself sufi
buxar Shamen: cool
Eliza Madrigal: I think I will have to go... eyes are crossing at the keyboard ...
cybersufi Resident: sleep well eliza
buxar Shamen: good ight eliza
buxar Shamen: :)
Wol Euler: goodnight eliza, take care.
Agatha Macbeth: Better than crossing at a green light
Wol Euler: it's good to have you back
Agatha Macbeth: C ya Liz
Eliza Madrigal: but thanks for the story Cyber, for the session Aggers, for the company...
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, the company
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks :) Nice to be back
Wol Euler: I'm going to leave too, I've been struggling against drowsiness all evening
Wol Euler: goodngiht all, take care, be happy
Eliza Madrigal: be well and happy
Agatha Macbeth: Hit the hay Wol, schlaf gut
Wol Euler: ty u2
Agatha Macbeth waves
buxar Shamen: what i find funny about sufis is that they try very hard not to say that all is god and they them selfs are the godhead like in hindu thought ... i thinck becouse of their cultural background state
  --BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Ah well, back to it...
Agatha Macbeth: Have fun all
buxar Shamen: byebye agatha nice seeing you :)
buxar Shamen: ciaw pupa hii!
cybersufi Resident: Well there is good reason, words reduce the infinite to the finite
buxar Shamen: heelow yashmen
cybersufi Resident: people often confuse the word concepts with the reality behind the words
buxar Shamen: thats tvery rue and can lead you very fast out of this world in some occestions
buxar Shamen: wher you from csufi?
Archmage Atlantis: Words are only symbols, and symbols are less than being
cybersufi Resident: It is like Bruce lee said to his student in enter the dragon "it is like a finger pointing to the moon... don't look at the finger or you will miss all the hevenly glory"
buxar Shamen: symbols in them self must rapresent something
buxar Shamen: hehee nice qoute
Archmage Atlantis: Life twirls
buxar Shamen: hehee you look nice arch whit your bed hair :P
cybersufi Resident: thats weird I appear to be levatating lol
buxar Shamen: all in the magic of the mokment
buxar Shamen: moment*
cybersufi Resident: shocking distraction lol
Archmage Atlantis: Descartes was close....the thought that he thought therefore he was.......
Archmage Atlantis: I am without thought or other
Archmage Atlantis: Namaste, Blessings, Shalom