2012.06.19 _ 70

Yes Eliza. Once we think of something we have to do, some technique that has to be performed, it also presupposes someone who does this. A lot of Buddhist teachings seem a bit dualistic because of this, to me. The mind isn't really any help in understanding any of this, as UG Krishnamurti says. It just separates us. Perhaps if we realise we're never going to understand anything of the reality of life through the intellect and just use our brains for amusement, we will be okay :-) edited 18:12, 19 Jun 2012

/me laughs @ "use our brains for amusement"...
During last night's session we talked about 'starting at the end' in the context of the topic of competition. Who is competing; what are they competing for; what wants to be known? IOW, what is the *heart point*.

it is summer break here and I feel acutely aware that I often fall into patterns of narrowing down ... sort of working at the larger pictures of things and transitions in a way so as to keep a lot to myself... some false notion that grown ups do this... figure things out on their own. But my kids especially, need to *hear me*. I think that I am so transparent and obvious, but over and over again I see how this just isn't so. I'm off to the beach tonight, for time 'out of context', considering this in a deliberate sort of way, along with a quote that Pema shared a while ago:

Suzuki Roshi:

We don't know what will happen in any moment. So, in
each moment, if you fail to express yourself fully you
will regret it later. Because you expect some other
time -- a future, a time in which you are more real --
you fail to express yourself fully right now. And of
course in this way you will be misunderstood by your
friends, even by yourself. So you should always
express yourself fully. edited 19:28, 19 Jun 2012

Who is at the heart point, watching the doing?
It does not matter. Just do.

It does not matter who is doing.
Let it simply be done.

It does not matter that mind does not understand this.
It cannot understand. Accept its limitation.

Lokeshvara once told me:
"Intellectual and philosophical arguments are not found in these teachings. There are many opportunities to be found in other writings for those. If they help a person come to the same point as the more simple path I present, then it is good. However, such routes can be confusing to many and be the source of mental conflict and disharmony with others. They are reserved, with caution, for the few who need to argue these things out in their minds. But in the end, they will arrive at the same point: that of liberation and compassion for others."