2008.07.15 07:00 - Worlds crossing and coliding

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The wise crack comments are Riddle's.

    The morning's session got off to a slow start with 10 or more minutes of just listening to the in-world.  Which was very good because it got hectic later. 

    Maxine Walden: hi, Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: good morning Maxine
    Riddle Sideways: these bells, birds and sounds always calm me
    Maxine Walden: nice to just have birdsong in the morning, yes
    Maxine Walden: and align me with nature

    Regretfully, I broke the silence

    Riddle Sideways: did you speak in qwaq sunday?
    Maxine Walden: yes, I did, about a psychoanalytic perspective on insight. Are you coming to those much?
    Riddle Sideways: very sorry I missed it
    Riddle Sideways: that almost always a bad time for me
    Maxine Walden: life is so busy...I can imagine, is it your Sunday afternoon then?
    Riddle Sideways: if I am home, I am amid my honey-do list
    Riddle Sideways: how many were there?
    Maxine Walden: of course, RL and honey to do is essential on the weekends, well anytime
    Maxine Walden: oh, there were about 8 or so, nice group and we spoke for nearly 90 minutes
    Riddle Sideways: wow, very good turn out

    Adams Rubble joins us and hellos must be said.

    Adams Rubble is Online
    Riddle Sideways: hi Adams
    Maxine Walden: hi, Adams
    Adams Rubble: Hello Everyone
    Adams Rubble: Riddle, I haven't responded to your request for a replacement because it is too far ahead for me
    Maxine Walden: I'm coming to sit closer to you both, too far away over here
    Riddle Sideways: understand
    Riddle Sideways: good

    I tried to get back to finding out what I had missed in Maxine's led/guided/MC session.

    Riddle Sideways: we were just talking about Maxines talk in another virtual world Qwaq
    Adams Rubble: Oh?
    Maxine Walden: yes, I spoke about insight from a psychoanalytic perspective in a virtual space which uses voice rather than text
    Maxine Walden: another format, would you say, Riddle?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, a very different format
    Adams Rubble: Qwaq uses voice then?
    Riddle Sideways: that shapes the chat very differently

    Caspian enters and we stop to say HI.

    Adams Rubble: Hello Caspian
    Adams Rubble: Yes it would
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Caspian
    Adams Rubble: I was thinking about that overnight
    Caspian Inglewood takes a humble bow
    Maxine Walden: hello, Caspian, nice to meet you
    Adams Rubble: Yesterday Doug expressed concern over all the Hi's when someone walks in
    Caspian Inglewood: the feeling is mutual
    Adams Rubble: if we were using voice it would like one big HI
    Maxine Walden: a barrage of his
    Maxine Walden: His

    Very amusing that the plural of "Hi" is "His" :)

    Adams Rubble: Of course that is far afield from what you probably talked about Maxine
    Riddle Sideways: using voice has become more like lecturing too
    Caspian Inglewood: lol, I think many hi is okay
    Maxine Walden: I was speaking about how we need to be able to verbalize experience in order to think about it and understand it; just one way to view insight, but it was an interesting discussion
    Adams Rubble: I think so to, but he had a point about the interruptions of thought
    Riddle Sideways: many times somebodies mike is buzzy or too soft
    Adams Rubble: hmmm, that is interesting. How do you see that as different from writing the thoughts?
    Caspian Inglewood: I think voice is more intrusive than anything
    Riddle Sideways: both are verbalizing
    Riddle Sideways: but different
    Maxine Walden: voice can indeed be intrusive, depending on one's state of mind...
    Adams Rubble: I agree with caspian that I like the peacefulness of the typewritten discussion
    Maxine Walden: yes, agree writing is perhaps verbalizing to oneself
    Adams Rubble: hmmm
    Caspian Inglewood: is much quieter
    Caspian Inglewood: and is even more effective at conveying thought
    Riddle Sideways: many times we have 3-6 threads being typed at the same time here
    Adams Rubble: but are we writing to ourselves, interesting
    Maxine Walden: and there may be space for all those different strands in the quiet of the texting
    Caspian Inglewood: at my temple in Little Yoshiwara
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha
    Caspian Inglewood: we don't even talk
    Caspian Inglewood: we only sit
    Maxine Walden: Adams, are we writing for anyone else really other than ourselves, I wonder?
    Maxine Walden: only sit, Caspian, that is interesting
    Adams Rubble: I may do both, maybe at different times

    We started out using the term 'worlds' as places.  That we might visit these RL, SL, Qwaq, etc. worlds.  Then how we comunicate in those worlds.  Now 'worlds' takes on a more personal usage.  Wherein we all demonstrate our seperate 'world'ness by not listening to each other.

    Caspian Inglewood: Maxine, I would say right now there are 4 worlds present in room
    Adams Rubble: we still are communicating with each other
    Caspian Inglewood: yah, I mean we converse after
    Caspian Inglewood: upstairs for tea
    Caspian Inglewood: but during zazen, only sit
    Caspian Inglewood: everyone gathers
    Maxine Walden: yes, Adams, agree. Caspian, 4 worlds, each of us being one of those worlds?
    Riddle Sideways: I agree, caspian, but would add another world is what we combine to be
    Caspian Inglewood: yes, for every human being there is different world
    Caspian Inglewood: but originally there is only one world
    Caspian Inglewood: minus all me, my and I
    Adams Rubble: I learn so much from everyone
    Caspian Inglewood: you know?
    Caspian Inglewood: yes, but who is watching other world?
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha
    Adams Rubble: Lately I have been watching caspian
    Caspian Inglewood: reality never is what is
    Adams Rubble: ,Caspian
    Caspian Inglewood: always what we make it


    Then we all look up from typing and try to react to some portion of what some of us said :)

    Caspian Inglewood: watching Caspian?
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha
    Adams Rubble: I see people going througgh times of agitation
    Adams Rubble: and other times of feeling peacefulness
    Riddle Sideways: lately (every 15 min) I have been trying to watch the other
    Caspian Inglewood: yah
    Caspian Inglewood: originally I think everyone is of one mind
    Caspian Inglewood: but then we think
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha, we make opposites worlds
    Caspian Inglewood: I and you
    Caspian Inglewood: and then every mind is different
    Adams Rubble: But many of us are here looking for much the same thing
    Caspian Inglewood: hai
    Adams Rubble: we share our struggles
    Caspian Inglewood: oh I include myself in this human problem
    Adams Rubble: and offer each other insights
    Caspian Inglewood: like human beings
    Maxine Walden: we share and discover our common humanity amidst our struggles and feelings of aloneness

    Caspian is wound up on a roll here.  This is confusing and deep both in meaning and language phrasing.

    Caspian Inglewood: only Buddha, you know, don't want to be stupid
    Adams Rubble: ?
    Caspian Inglewood: So I ask you, everybody! When you come, when you are born here, why do you come here in this world? What do you DO here?
    Caspian Inglewood: When you die where do you go? DON'T UNDERSTAND! So you are stupid you see, everybody stupid. So, human beings appear in this
    Caspian Inglewood: world already big mistake. Only Buddha don't want to be, you know, stupid.
    Caspian Inglewood: And don't want this mistake of human beings. So he wants to understand! What is life? What is death?
    Caspian Inglewood takes a humble bow
    Caspian Inglewood: I hope was not intrustive
    Adams Rubble: Well, Caspian, there is the ideal (the goal) and the place where most of are
    Caspian Inglewood: yah?
    Adams Rubble: yah
    Caspian Inglewood: 2+2=4
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Caspian Inglewood: only mean that many human being do not understand job

    Maxine and I tried to get back into the conversation.  Hard to do with so many points and moving so fast.

    Riddle Sideways: there is our goals and hearing Maxine helps me to know a not known or forgotten step toward goal
    Maxine Walden: one view is to look down upon human frailty and another is to have compassion for our uncertainty and often present doubt
    Caspian Inglewood: they come in world, but don't understand
    Caspian Inglewood: even lion understands, okay
    Caspian Inglewood: roar roar!
    Caspian Inglewood: lion knows lion job
    Caspian Inglewood: but human beings
    Caspian Inglewood: how to say
    Caspian Inglewood: are stupid
    Riddle Sideways wonders why that is true?
    Maxine Walden: most of us don't understand most of the time; maybe the search in the dark and the courage to do so and to face our ever present doubts is part of the human journey
    Caspian Inglewood: what is correct way of human being?
    Caspian Inglewood: falling down, getting up
    Caspian Inglewood: all same point
    Caspian Inglewood: yes, this is part
    Caspian Inglewood: I hope you do not take criticism as personal attack
    Caspian Inglewood: obviously all beings are included in this
    Caspian Inglewood: is not meant to be derrogatory
    Maxine Walden: it may be a taunting idealization to think that there is a CORRECT way, and that taunting quality can lead to great distress
    Riddle Sideways: oops, I missed the attack :)
    Caspian Inglewood: good, because was none
    Caspian Inglewood: there is always correct way
    Adams Rubble: No Caspian, but it a bit too strong
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha
    Caspian Inglewood: but it manifests differently always
    Caspian Inglewood: so we say, "Only help all beings"
    Caspian Inglewood: that is human job

    When trying to catch onto a speeding train of thought you must grab whatever handle comes nearest first.  It is often not the choicest nor best handle.  Three of us tried to latch on to the many thoughts.

    Maxine Walden: it may be that the comment of 'stupid' is an attempt to get through frequent arrogance that we can surround ourselves with as would-be protection in the unknown
    Caspian Inglewood: yah, most people just laugh
    Caspian Inglewood: they already understand!
    Caspian Inglewood: yah, I am stupid!
    Riddle Sideways: getting up and falling down, has taught me many lessons.
    Caspian Inglewood takes a humble bow
    Riddle Sideways: for some reason I think that I should teach others
    Maxine Walden: we all are searching...and that can be called stupid, or searching
    Riddle Sideways: about my experiences
    Riddle Sideways: when they already know falling
    Caspian Inglewood: well but actually
    Riddle Sideways: and getting up again
    Caspian Inglewood: stupid is more for those who no search
    Caspian Inglewood: you all are okay
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha
    Caspian Inglewood: it is those who never question
    Caspian Inglewood: they I worry bout
    Maxine Walden: seems we are all questioning nearly all the time here
    Riddle Sideways: not only here
    Caspian Inglewood: but you all have met the type
    Caspian Inglewood: never question
    Caspian Inglewood: only accept own reality as truth
    Caspian Inglewood: real questioning is not questioning outside
    Caspian Inglewood: is questioning inside
    Caspian Inglewood: questioning society is very easy
    Caspian Inglewood: but questioning my beliefs, my opinion
    Caspian Inglewood: not quite so fun
    Riddle Sideways: and this personal questioning
    Riddle Sideways: that we all go on
    Maxine Walden: questioning oneself leads to uncertainty which can be painful because all our dreads reside there in uncertainty
    Caspian Inglewood: exactly so
    Maxine Walden: and when we let go of our 'certain' selves we fear facing those things we dread
    Riddle Sideways: why is it that we seem to have to tell others about our questioning and lessons and ...
    Caspian Inglewood: because human beings are stupid!
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha

    Adams loses grip on speeding thoughts and many threads.  Maybe I should have left the timestamps on for the last few seconds to show how fast we were typing. :)

    Adams Rubble: Ahhhhhghhh!
    Maxine Walden: Riddle, the rest of your question?
    Caspian Inglewood: oh Adams, you are so sensitive
    Adams Rubble: Blah!
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, no question. it was retorical
    Caspian Inglewood: yah, blah!
    Maxine Walden: ah...

    Slight slowdown, a breathe is taken, then we start picking up speed again.

    Caspian Inglewood: I don't like potatos!
    Caspian Inglewood: I like brocolli
    Caspian Inglewood: well, we eat both
    Riddle Sideways: we insist on becoming teachers to others (that may not want nor listen)
    Riddle Sideways: then in our teachings
    Caspian Inglewood: then why do you wish to teach?
    Riddle Sideways: we use words that are not known to other
    Adams Rubble: Teachers need to listem first, then teach
    Caspian Inglewood: if nobody has ears, nobody has ears
    Caspian Inglewood: to a beginner, many many poassability
    Caspian Inglewood: to expert....very few
    Maxine Walden: Caspian, I think Riddle and Adams are sublty suggesting that you might listen here as we try to do with each other before trying to offer your teachings

    Thank you Maxine, but I think this is where things start to go south.

    Caspian Inglewood: I am offering teachings?
    Caspian Inglewood: I am not completely dull, I know exactly what they say
    Caspian Inglewood: lol, no sharing!
    Caspian Inglewood: I understand that when someone runs show
    Caspian Inglewood: sometimes they really want to run show
    Riddle Sideways: just before you came in Maxine was telling about another VW she was discussing this in
    Caspian Inglewood: they don't like loss of control
    Caspian Inglewood: especially of theme
    Riddle Sideways: yes, sometimes I feel bad if a theme gets lost
    Caspian Inglewood: what is VW?
    Riddle Sideways: virtual world
    Caspian Inglewood: ah okay
    Riddle Sideways: many times I read past logs
    Caspian Inglewood: I come, I share, I listen
    Caspian Inglewood: but somehow always is taken as "teaching"
    Caspian Inglewood: this has happened before
    Riddle Sideways: and read 3 comments on something very important to me
    Riddle Sideways: and it gets lost
    Riddle Sideways: sometimes in hellos :)
    Caspian Inglewood: then please proceed
    Maxine Walden: that is frustrating when an interesting theme gets lost, as often happens

    I am noticing that I had a little trouble getting one complete thought out.  I should type a lot faster.
    Granted, I am trying to selfeshly force my one thought to get completely. 
    Doing such has put me trying to forcible steer the conversation.
    Which only derails the entire train of thoughts.

    Caspian Inglewood: so this is very closed group, then
    Riddle Sideways: I think the opposite is true
    Caspian Inglewood: actually, if may say
    Caspian Inglewood: on occasions i come here
    Caspian Inglewood: conversation is always steered
    Caspian Inglewood: never flows natural
    Adams Rubble: Caspian, that is so wrong
    Caspian Inglewood: yes?
    Maxine Walden: not a closed group, but we try to approach it with respect for what may be going on as we join,
    Riddle Sideways: has not been my experience
    Caspian Inglewood: interesting
    Caspian Inglewood: perhaps you are all on same page then
    Adams Rubble: You sometimes seem to be playing a role
    Adams Rubble: wanting to disrupt
    Caspian Inglewood: ah see
    Riddle Sideways: each individual brings and receives
    Caspian Inglewood: this is what I mean
    Adams Rubble: It seems overdone sometimes
    Caspian Inglewood: it must be my perception
    Caspian Inglewood: because this always, always must come up
    Caspian Inglewood: let us get out in air
    Caspian Inglewood: you do not like
    Caspian Inglewood: no problem
    Adams Rubble: Look at the log to how much you say to what everyone else says
    Caspian Inglewood: if it makes you feel better, i do not like dogs
    Adams Rubble: you are dominating the conversation
    Caspian Inglewood: more of cat person
    Caspian Inglewood: but I never beat dog
    Adams Rubble: see you keep talking
    Adams Rubble: not listen

    Maxine starts backing out of room.

    Maxine Walden: I am sorry, but I need to leave in a moment
    Caspian Inglewood: Adams
    Caspian Inglewood: do you not see irony here?
    Riddle Sideways: I have to leave in another 10 also
    Caspian Inglewood: you all claim you do not steer conversation
    Caspian Inglewood: but then someone shows up
    Caspian Inglewood: maybe person nmamed Caspian
    Maxine Walden: and I can see that this conversation is not concluded. Sorry i cannot stay longer
    Caspian Inglewood: and he must conform
    Caspian Inglewood: only to your liking
    Maxine Walden: bye all. See you soon
    Adams Rubble: Bye Maxine
    Caspian Inglewood: bye Maxine
    Riddle Sideways: ok, see you Maxine

    Maxine leaves.  Adams' typing starts getting a little hurried.

    Please withstand my not having added comments below.  There is no good breaking point within the next big section.

    Adams Rubble: Cspian, we try to lsten to everyone
    Caspian Inglewood: you do know that this is rude
    Adams Rubble: Everyone has something to offer us
    Caspian Inglewood: if my speaking is rude
    Caspian Inglewood: maybe it is
    Caspian Inglewood: your "corrections"
    Caspian Inglewood: this is very, very rude
    Adams Rubble: I am sorry I am being rude
    Riddle Sideways: I think perhaps Maxine had something valuable to add
    Adams Rubble: but it is in response to rudeness
    Caspian Inglewood: why use fertilizer?
    Riddle Sideways: and we overpowered her
    Caspian Inglewood: why not just let grass grow naturally?
    Caspian Inglewood: I cannot really say what motivates Maxine
    Caspian Inglewood: maybe they would know best
    Adams Rubble: I ould like to have heard Maxine
    Caspian Inglewood: okay
    Caspian Inglewood: but they had to leave
    Caspian Inglewood: but you are saying
    Riddle Sideways: we all started down our own trips rather then hear her
    Caspian Inglewood: because I show up
    Caspian Inglewood: you not hear Maxine
    Caspian Inglewood: I completely understand you Adams
    Caspian Inglewood: but I think this would be no problem
    Caspian Inglewood: if no fuss was made
    Adams Rubble: It is not your showing up. You are very welcome
    Caspian Inglewood: is that so?
    Adams Rubble: of course you are welcome
    Caspian Inglewood: ah, tyvm then
    Caspian Inglewood: I did not know that
    Riddle Sideways: yes, your input is always welcome
    Adams Rubble: tyvm?
    Caspian Inglewood: thank you very much
    Caspian Inglewood: I always got impression am not welcome
    Adams Rubble: We all know we are not Buddha, or Bodhissatvas
    Adams Rubble: we are doing the best we can
    Caspian Inglewood: so in other words, don't talk of Buddhism
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha
    Caspian Inglewood: you ask too much
    Adams Rubble: and we try to help one another
    Riddle Sideways: ha ha
    Riddle Sideways: not the point
    Adams Rubble: I like to talk about Buddhism
    Caspian Inglewood: well, is the point
    Caspian Inglewood: basically saying, "Yeah yeah, we know. Shut up about Buddha."
    Adams Rubble: You take a very hard view Caspian
    Caspian Inglewood: we know, we know

    While the battle rages all around, I wonder where senior moment Riddle went...

    Caspian Inglewood: next subject
    Adams Rubble: you talk as if everyone has to do just one thing
    Caspian Inglewood: maybe we talk of turkeys instead
    Caspian Inglewood: but conversation...no, no....never steered
    Adams Rubble: see, I don;t see how that helps us understand
    Riddle Sideways: I wonder where the our turkeys went?
    Adams Rubble: it is just arhumntative
    Caspian Inglewood: well I don't wish for this anymore than you
    Adams Rubble: argumentative
    Caspian Inglewood: but problem arose, apparently
    Caspian Inglewood: so am addressing
    Riddle Sideways: last week there were 13 baby turkeys
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha
    Caspian Inglewood: 13!
    Caspian Inglewood: wow
    Riddle Sideways: I have not seen them for days
    Riddle Sideways: little football birds
    Caspian Inglewood: argumentative?
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha
    Caspian Inglewood: you don't know the half of it
    Caspian Inglewood: I cried first time in Dharma combat

    Long pause.

    Caspian Inglewood: look, I know you come to discuss Play as Being
    Caspian Inglewood: but when i hear things, maybe I connect in different way
    Riddle Sideways: which is what I like
    Adams Rubble: Caspian, we are used to a gentler form of discussion
    Caspian Inglewood: unfortunately Zen has never been gentle, Adams
    Riddle Sideways: I come to hear all members connect these things differently
    Caspian Inglewood: which is much of the problem here
    Adams Rubble: where we listen and try to understand what people are going through

    I think this is the seventh line up from below, being referred to.

    Caspian Inglewood: it is very confrontational
    Caspian Inglewood: no cozy happy feeling
    Adams Rubble: Do you read all the logs Caspian?
    Caspian Inglewood: I have never read one
    Adams Rubble: Then how can you say that?
    Caspian Inglewood: how can i say what?
    Adams Rubble: That our conversation is confrontational
    Caspian Inglewood: I never did say that
    Caspian Inglewood: was speaking of Zen
    Adams Rubble: what did you say seven lines up?
    Caspian Inglewood: unfortunately Zen has never been gentle, Adams; it is very confrontational
    Riddle Sideways: occasionally (the logs show) that many conversations here are confrontational and others are overly supportive
    Adams Rubble: But I am not Zen; I am not even a Buddhist. I respect Buddhism
    Riddle Sideways: many times overly questioning
    Caspian Inglewood: okay
    Caspian Inglewood: but I am
    Riddle Sideways: some times there are too many answers
    Caspian Inglewood: so what are you saying?
    Caspian Inglewood: it is not clear
    Caspian Inglewood: for on one hand you say be self
    Caspian Inglewood: then you say, do not be self

    By now I have lost track of the score, but both sides are score at will.

    Adams Rubble: I think you should read some logs to have a better understanding of what we are about
    Caspian Inglewood: irony
    Caspian Inglewood: how to play as being
    Caspian Inglewood: lol
    Caspian Inglewood: if cannot be who am?
    Adams Rubble: That bsounds like "I" talking
    Caspian Inglewood: yah it is I talking
    Caspian Inglewood: right now I am having little I tangent
    Adams Rubble: Do you think that PaB should be about Caspian whenever you are here?
    Caspian Inglewood: but for Big I purpose
    Caspian Inglewood: no I do not
    Caspian Inglewood: in fact, I hope that is never the case
    Caspian Inglewood: do you think I should put on game face when here?
    Caspian Inglewood: only relate gentle, only calm
    Caspian Inglewood: now now, it will all be better
    Adams Rubble: There is a time to listen; there is a time to talk
    Riddle Sideways: I use to think that you put on a game face here, but now I think you really are like you are
    Caspian Inglewood: unfortunately this requires much talking
    Caspian Inglewood: plus, expression nis in my nature
    Riddle Sideways: yes it does
    Adams Rubble: there is a time for acting; there is a time to refrain from acting
    Adams Rubble: there is a time for worrk; there is a time for play
    Caspian Inglewood: yes, and every time each manifests
    Caspian Inglewood: that is the time!
    Caspian Inglewood: you don't see?
    Caspian Inglewood: I cannot make apple orange
    Caspian Inglewood: so why try?
    Adams Rubble: I am sorry about that
    Caspian Inglewood: sorry for?
    Adams Rubble: that is apples and oranges
    Caspian Inglewood: no game face, but maybe am a little crazy
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Caspian Inglewood: well I cannot make wind bend to desire
    Caspian Inglewood: I cannot make rain stop
    Adams Rubble: but you are not wind
    Caspian Inglewood: I cannot make any other do what they wish not do
    Adams Rubble: you are not rain
    Adams Rubble: you are Caspian
    Caspian Inglewood: yes
    Caspian Inglewood: so let me be Caspian
    Caspian Inglewood: lol
    Caspian Inglewood: otherwise, you only cause self distress
    Caspian Inglewood: I am not to change for you
    Caspian Inglewood: I am sorry, i love you
    Caspian Inglewood: but this asks too much
    Adams Rubble: I love you too Caspian
    Caspian Inglewood takes a humble bow

    Tension broken.

    Caspian Inglewood: you should come sit at temple some time, join us for tea
    Caspian Inglewood: then you will see me not talking
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha
    Riddle Sideways: I am very sorry, I do not know how to humble bow
    Caspian Inglewood gave you Humble bow.
    Riddle Sideways: ah, thank you so much
    Caspian Inglewood: hai
    Adams Rubble: thank you
    Caspian Inglewood: no problem
    Adams Rubble takes a humble bow
    Adams Rubble: bow
    Caspian Inglewood gave you MUDA.

    Hard to discribe this in words.  The MUDA gesture we recieved is a kata form complete with the kiai (scream).  Both Caspian's flowing robes and Adam's flowing dress make whurling visions in the room.

    Caspian Inglewood: that last one is fun gesture
    Riddle Sideways takes a humble bow
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha
    Caspian Inglewood: yes
    Riddle Sideways: ha ha, very good
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Caspian Inglewood: okay
    Caspian Inglewood: so now dust has settled
    Riddle Sideways: the beauty of your robes flowing
    Caspian Inglewood: nothing like gifts to make better of tension
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Caspian Inglewood: that i make special
    Caspian Inglewood: special gift
    Caspian Inglewood gave you Seung Sahn wall hanging.
    Caspian Inglewood: ty adams
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Caspian Inglewood: ha ha ha
    Caspian Inglewood: nice, ty

    I am such a n00b...  I have no gifts stored up in inventory and do not really know how to give them away yet.  [note to self: learn stuff]

    Riddle Sideways: well, good people I need to go be RL for a while
    Caspian Inglewood: yah, I should go too
    Adams Rubble: bye Riddle :)
    Caspian Inglewood: bandwidth
    Adams Rubble: bye Caspian :)
    Caspian Inglewood: bye Adams
    Caspian Inglewood: hope next time we have better time
    Adams Rubble: Yes, let's leave as friends :)
    Riddle Sideways takes a humble bow
    Caspian Inglewood: oh
    Caspian Inglewood: 12 am SL time
    Caspian Inglewood: we have sitting at doujou-ji
    Riddle Sideways: bye all
    Caspian Inglewood: you should both join us sometime
    Caspian Inglewood is Online
    Caspian Inglewood: i will send reminders
    Adams Rubble: Thank you Caspian
    Caspian Inglewood: hai

    Oops, I got 12am confused with noon.

    Riddle Sideways: noon is a busy time for me, but thank you
    Caspian Inglewood: oh, 12 am is noon for you?
    Caspian Inglewood: wow, you must be on different continent
    Adams Rubble: no, it is 3 am for me
    Riddle Sideways: yees, I am the same as SL time
    Caspian Inglewood: ah okay
    Caspian Inglewood: me, too

    Please to note that Caspian lives in Pacific Time zone.

    Caspian Inglewood: i am night person
    Caspian Inglewood: ah well
    Caspian Inglewood: maybe someday you are free then
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: will try
    Caspian Inglewood: okay
    Caspian Inglewood: goodbye
    Adams Rubble: bye :)
    Caspian Inglewood takes a humble bow
    Riddle Sideways: goodbye
    Riddle Sideways takes a humble bow

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