2011.01.18 13:00 - South African Sunshine

The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.

Wol Euler: hello sunshine, bruce
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Wol
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Wol. Good to see you again.
Bruce Mowbray: This is Sun - and her first time here.
Wol Euler: hello sun, welcome.
Sunshine Vayandar: ty ;) nice to meet both of you ;)
Bruce Mowbray: We're a playful, friendly, respectful bunch, Sun - so please relax and feel free to contribute in whatever ways suit you.

--BELL--

Sunshine Vayandar: thanks Bruce ;) looking forward : just not sure what to look forward to ;p

Bruce Mowbray: I do need to tell you that every fifteen minutes a bell will ring - indicating that we will be in silence for 90 seconds.
Bruce Mowbray: (That was the bell - just then).
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm really
Sunshine Vayandar: what is the reason?
Bruce Mowbray:  We call that a "drop" or a "pause" -- and what we do is "Drop what we have to discover what we are."
Wol Euler: hello Mick
Bruce Mowbray: (That's all in the notecard).
Mickorod Renard: Hello all
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Mick ;)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey Mick -- Good to see you again.
Mickorod Renard: yea, good to see u all
Bruce Mowbray: This is Sun -- her first time at PaB today.
Mickorod Renard: hello sun
Mickorod Renard: Sun
Sunshine Vayandar: hi ㋡
Sunshine Vayandar: sounds great, Bruce
Sunshine Vayandar: found your song ;)
Bruce Mowbray: @ Sun - sometimes we have a set topic -- but usually we just talk about whatever folks want to talk about.
Sunshine Vayandar: kk
Bruce Mowbray: If someone has a particular concern - then we talk about that, if folks want to.
Sunshine Vayandar: ok ;)
Bruce Mowbray: it is discussion and discovery and exploration -- it is NOT psychotherapy (ha ha).
Wol Euler smiles.
Sunshine Vayandar: is there a short description of the reason for this group
Bruce Mowbray smiles back at Wol.
Sunshine Vayandar: or I just listen in first
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, on the notecard -- and also, I will find you a web link.
Bruce Mowbray: just a sec, please.
Sunshine Vayandar: I have it ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: just don't wanna read now
Mickorod Renard: I think we learn to cope with our own funny thoughts by talking through other people's concerns
Sunshine Vayandar: better experience
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I agree, Sun. But if later you want to check out Play as Being meetings, here's a fine URL for that:
Bruce Mowbray: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/About_PlayAsBeing/About_Our_Meetings
Sunshine Vayandar: oh great ty
Mickorod Renard: I enjoy the relaxed friendship we have
Bruce Mowbray: Our chats are also posted. . . We meet four times a day, around the clock and around the world -- at these times:
Bruce Mowbray: 1 am, 7 a.m., 1 p.m., 7 p.m. (all SLT)
Sunshine Vayandar: great ;)
Bruce Mowbray: right here....
Sunshine Vayandar: i heard about you today from a friend at Perfect Paradise sim
Mickorod Renard: I like to chill out here
Sunshine Vayandar: looks like the perfect chill ;)
Mickorod Renard: what's perfect at paradise sim?
Mickorod Renard: is it good?
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm it is a community - we chat a lot about different topics
Mickorod Renard: wow, similar to here
Sunshine Vayandar: many there run their own RL/SL projects of all kinds
Sunshine Vayandar: just in general - a community trying to be more aware about things around them and in them
Mickorod Renard: we also have the 90 second thing
Sunshine Vayandar: that is fantastic
Mickorod Renard: I find the practice is very good for rl issues
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: definitely.
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm I would love to have such a group in RL
Mickorod Renard: clearing the fog of confused multi thoughts
Sunshine Vayandar: but kinda isolated in this town
Wol Euler: that's the advantage of SL, Sun :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Mickorod Renard: I think it hard to find sufficient like-minded people in any sized town

Bruce Mowbray: me too, Mick.
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm u think?
Wol Euler: unlikely :)
Wol Euler: it is unlikely.
Mickorod Renard: many folk in rl are too reserved to admit a liking for chat like this
Sunshine Vayandar: this is why I feel there is kind a difference between RL and SL community life
Wol Euler: you'd need a large city to contain as many people of a single specific interest as you'll find here
Sunshine Vayandar: hm that is true
Wol Euler: but if you lived in that large city, you'd probably still never meet them because of geography
Sunshine Vayandar: so I am not so unique? ;p
Wol Euler: sadly, no :)
Wol Euler grins.
Sunshine Vayandar: even though I am convinced we are all the same eventually
Mickorod Renard: I get a suspicion that Quaker meeting houses may have similarities
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Mickorod Renard: but I am too shy to try one
Sunshine Vayandar: try what?
Wol Euler: hello sam
Sunshine Vayandar: hi
oO0Oo Resident: hi everybody
Mickorod Renard: going along and presenting myself to total strangers
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Samuo -- Good to see you again.
Mickorod Renard: Hi oOOOOooo
Sunshine Vayandar: oh kk Mick ;)
Mickorod Renard: yes Bruce, what do u think?
Bruce Mowbray: We will "drop" and have silence for 90 seconds when the bell rings at 15 past the hour... btw.
Sunshine Vayandar: well, living abroad makes it easy to get into situations like that a lot
Sunshine Vayandar: kk Bruce ;)
Bruce Mowbray: I agree totally, Mick.

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: Samuo, this is Sun - and this is Sun's first time at the fountain.
oO0Oo Resident: pleasure to meet you
Sunshine Vayandar: nice to meet you Sam ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: am i the only first timer ?
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
Wol Euler: not a problem :)
Wol Euler: everybody is new at something, sometime.
Bruce Mowbray: Well . . . I sort of suspect that one of the fish is also a first -timer.
Sunshine Vayandar: for sure
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
oO0Oo Resident: swimmingly put, Bruce
Bruce Mowbray:  Blub will now go to greet the first-timer fish.
Mickorod Renard: its funny, during the break I was reflecting on why I have been absent for a while; the only conclusion I had was that i had too much noise of activities going on in rl, surely a good reason to come here, not stay away
Wol Euler: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Wol Euler: but I do know what you mean, it can seem like this takes too much clarity or energy
Sunshine Vayandar: I try to be in a more aware space somehow through my day
Mickorod Renard: it can feel like an extravagance, even frivolous
Wol Euler nods.
Mickorod Renard: I meant my bit re coming on sl
Sunshine Vayandar: I feel like a Martian because of that lol
Mickorod Renard: :)
Mickorod Renard: did u say you are away in another country from your home, Sun?
Sunshine Vayandar: yes
Sunshine Vayandar: I am Hungarian but living in Africa
Sunshine Vayandar: big change
Wol Euler: wow
Mickorod Renard: is it a permanent move or just short term?
Mickorod Renard: wow
Sunshine Vayandar: 13 years already
oO0Oo Resident: wow
Mickorod Renard: wowwwww
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: I feel more African somehow than Hungarian ;)
Mickorod Renard: I guess Africa is home then?
Sunshine Vayandar: yes
Sunshine Vayandar: I felt like I had to move to Africa - not sure why
Bruce Mowbray: Wow and wonderful!
Wol Euler: now that is interesting :)
Bruce Mowbray: May I ask which country, Sun?
Sunshine Vayandar: I think traveling helps you learn to drop things
Mickorod Renard: I moved away from home for 8 years and although it was an experience I didn't settle and became lonely
Sunshine Vayandar: South Africa
Sunshine Vayandar: 8 years?
Mickorod Renard: cool
Bruce Mowbray: OK --- ty!
Sunshine Vayandar: and are you back home now?
Mickorod Renard: well 7 and a bit :)
Mickorod Renard: yes
Mickorod Renard: 7 i got the itch real bad
Sunshine Vayandar: well I seem to be very lonely too - I didn't expect it at all
Mickorod Renard: owww, then I can understand how u feel
Sunshine Vayandar: it might have many reasons I suppose
Sunshine Vayandar: it's very different to live in a country so different from yours
Bruce Mowbray finds feeling "lonely" to be interesting - especially since he's not felt that emotion in many years.
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Mickorod Renard: yes, yet some make the change very easily, for some reason
Bruce Mowbray listens intently to learn more.
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm lonely for me means - that I haven't gone out to have tea with a friend in 13 years
Bruce Mowbray: Oh my!
Sunshine Vayandar: so it's not so easy lol
Wol Euler: do you mean a particular friend, or never at all?
Sunshine Vayandar: never at all
Sunshine Vayandar: well maybe once
Wol Euler: O.O
Wol Euler: wow
Sunshine Vayandar: and before that I used to go all over the place
Sunshine Vayandar: traveled the world
Wol Euler: but in 13 years have you not made new friends?
Mickorod Renard: I hungered for a good conversation
Bruce Mowbray: You're welcome to have tea with us -- four times every day, Sun.
Sunshine Vayandar: I have been running a non-profit open source project for 10 years here
Mickorod Renard: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: you are lovely guys ;)
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: ty
oO0Oo Resident: interest piques
Sunshine Vayandar: lol ;)
Bruce Mowbray listens.
oO0Oo Resident: hey Blub looks great with the Koi, Bruce
Sunshine Vayandar: I decided to start a dream project where I explore openness
Bruce Mowbray: Blub is playing shark. . .
Mickorod Renard: dream project?
Wol Euler listens.
Sunshine Vayandar: lol he seems confident
oO0Oo Resident opens to listening
Alfred Kelberry: wee!
Wol Euler: hi boxy
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Alfred
Alfred Kelberry: woly :)
Bruce Mowbray listens even more intently to Sun.
Mickorod Renard: we have a dream session at Kira after this
Sunshine Vayandar: I mean boxy
Alfred Kelberry: hello, pablings :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey , Boxy.
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Mickorod Renard: Hi Alfie
oO0Oo Resident: Hi boxy
Sunshine Vayandar: well it all started in an Indian music club in Budapest
oO0Oo Resident: openness Sun?
Alfred Kelberry: sun is emitting lovely roses :)
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
Mickorod Renard: as they do
oO0Oo Resident: of course
Wol Euler: :)
Mickorod Renard: :)

--BELL--

Alfred Kelberry: ah, lotus
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm but it's time to drop I think ;)
Alfred Kelberry: thank you, sun :)
Sunshine Vayandar: yw
Wol Euler puts a finger to her lips.
Alfred Kelberry: *thinks: nice lips*
Mickorod Renard: :)
Wol Euler: ty sun
Sunshine Vayandar: yw ;)
Mickorod Renard: that was quick
Mickorod Renard: ty
Mickorod Renard: so Sun, tell us the story
Wol Euler: yes, please do
Mickorod Renard: please
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: well once upon a timeeee
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm I grew up as a musician
Sunshine Vayandar: and played classical European music since I was 8
Mickorod Renard: wow
Sunshine Vayandar: much to the horror of the neighborhood
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Wol Euler: why?
Bruce Mowbray doubts that!
Sunshine Vayandar: because I didn't know how to tune the violin
Sunshine Vayandar: ;D
Wol Euler: o.O
Wol Euler: you were entirely self-taught?
Wol Euler: wow.
Mickorod Renard: eeek
Sunshine Vayandar: nono
Sunshine Vayandar: but when you are small someone else does it for you
Sunshine Vayandar: it's not so easy first
Sunshine Vayandar: and one day when I was about 18 I visited an Indian music club
Sunshine Vayandar: with my grandmom
Sunshine Vayandar: it was very unusual for Hungary
Sunshine Vayandar: and I was shocked how different they played
Sunshine Vayandar: different sounds - and it somehow never ended ;)
Mickorod Renard: yes
Sunshine Vayandar: and there wasn't clapping
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: and people played in pajamas
Sunshine Vayandar: ;D
Wol Euler: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: opposite to the concerts I was used to
Mickorod Renard: so less formal?
Sunshine Vayandar: and this club had concerts once a week
Sunshine Vayandar: much less
Sunshine Vayandar: and we learnt about the guru - student relationships
Alfred Kelberry: a classical concert in pajamas would be nice
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm why not ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: Paganini in Pajamas ;p
oO0Oo Resident: with pranayama
Alfred Kelberry: maybe you should organize one :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Mickorod Renard: proms in pijama's
Bruce Mowbray listens, fascinated.
Mickorod Renard: me too
Sunshine Vayandar: and so all that made me think how different teaching and learning can be
Wol Euler: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: we could even do it in pajamas ;p
Sunshine Vayandar: and it seemed like your teacher becomes your friend
Mickorod Renard: nice
Sunshine Vayandar: there is so much respect between the sitar student and his / her teacher
oO0Oo Resident: the star being the sun?
Sunshine Vayandar: and they didn't ask money for classes
Sunshine Vayandar: nono ;)
Alfred Kelberry: isn't it so in a classical environment?
Sunshine Vayandar: then I thought it was too complex to even try sitar
Sunshine Vayandar: or tabla
Mickorod Renard: loves the sitar
Alfred Kelberry: yes, sitar is lovely
Sunshine Vayandar: in a "modern" class you mean?
Sunshine Vayandar: I just found everything so different
Sunshine Vayandar: incense, tea served
Alfred Kelberry: in your violin class
Sunshine Vayandar: videos about India
Alfred Kelberry: ah, tea
Alfred Kelberry: nice
Sunshine Vayandar: and chat about different ragas and beats
Sunshine Vayandar: violin class was very rigid
Sunshine Vayandar: and no pajamas ;p
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: boooooo hissss -- no pajamas..... ;-(
Sunshine Vayandar: of course that was my feeling
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
Bruce Mowbray: :-) me too.
Sunshine Vayandar: and so this started me on this exploration about teaching and learning and music
Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Chi Aho.
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Chi ;)
Wol Euler: hello chi
Mickorod Renard: would you suggest the formal violin was ridged replication and the sitar class guided creativity?
Mickorod Renard: Hi Chi
Chi Aho: Hello everyone
Sunshine Vayandar: well at a violin class - there is a book to read music from
Mickorod Renard: mm yes
Sunshine Vayandar: and always given melodies
Sunshine Vayandar: Indian club - no book and no melody is always the same
Sunshine Vayandar: and there are different ragas for different time of the day, season
Alfred Kelberry: could you play something? :)
Sunshine Vayandar: it's more organic
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe ;)

--BELL--

Sunshine Vayandar: I am usually just jamming on
Mickorod Renard: like life
Alfred Kelberry: we seem to have a lot of musicians on board. it'd be nice to organize a live concert event :)
Sunshine Vayandar: yes like life ;)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: so I started to learn about flowing more like life
Sunshine Vayandar: not having too many plans - rather just enjoy things
Sunshine Vayandar: and I thought that whatever I know - I can teach to anyone that needs it ... and then he/she can teach it to the next person etc
Mickorod Renard: nice idea
Sunshine Vayandar: so I started to ask people to teach me things
Sunshine Vayandar: in exchange for something I can teach
Sunshine Vayandar: I am sure you have done things like that
Wol Euler: erm, no :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Darren
Wol Euler: hello darren
Darren Islar: hi everyone :)
Wol Euler: it is fascinating though.
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Darren - Welcome back!
Sunshine Vayandar: I thought that was interesting that no money is involved
Chi Aho: Hi darren
oO0Oo Resident: hi darren. chi
Mickorod Renard: hi darren
Wol Euler: One thing puzzles me, Sun: why did a love of *Indian* music lead you to *Africa*?
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe ;)
Alfred Kelberry: it's in chapter 9 :)
Mickorod Renard: yes, I was wondering that
Sunshine Vayandar: I told you I am from Mars
Sunshine Vayandar: i do funny things
Wol Euler: I would have thought there were more Indian music in India ... but perhaps that's just simplistic :)
Alfred Kelberry: we're all from various planets here :)
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
oO0Oo Resident: :
Sunshine Vayandar: ah thank god
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Sunshine Vayandar: planetary meeting ;)
oO0Oo Resident: circling the sun today ;)
Mickorod Renard: I was thinking of giving exchange lessons in love
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Sunshine Vayandar: that is so nice Mick
Alfred Kelberry: Mick, I'll sign up :)
Mickorod Renard: free of course
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Sunshine Vayandar: how would u do it, Mick?
Mickorod Renard: it would be very personal and individual :)
Darren Islar: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Wol Euler: ah :)
Mickorod Renard: just pulling ur leg
Alfred Kelberry: um... i think woly could teach some love too :)
Wol Euler: actually I dreamed about doing that :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
Alfred Kelberry: ha! :)
Wol Euler: :)))
Darren Islar: we know you Mick, don't worry :)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
Darren Islar: you did wol ?
Alfred Kelberry: *reassigns himself to woly's class*
Wol Euler: mmhmm
oO0Oo Resident: :) boxy
Wol Euler: when I was in Japan, I dreamed one night that I was giving a pair of Japanese teenagers lessons in mime, using only gestures
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Wol Euler: since I spoke no Japanese and they no English
Sunshine Vayandar: wow
Wol Euler: yeah
Mickorod Renard: cool
Wol Euler grins
Darren Islar: ah
Sunshine Vayandar: I never had a dream like that ;)
Wol Euler: it was a really funny dream, my gestural inventiveness actually woke me up laughing
Mickorod Renard: I only know rude gestures
Darren Islar seeing some fish in the pool next to Blub :)
Wol Euler: hello Agatha!
Agatha Macbeth: Evenin' all
Alfred Kelberry: aga! :)
Darren Islar: hey Agatha

Bruce Mowbray: Aggers! Great to see you!
Wol Euler: hello pila
Mickorod Renard: Hi Ags
Darren Islar: hey Pila
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Agatha ;)
Alfred Kelberry: omg, pila! :)
Mickorod Renard: Hey Pila
oO0Oo Resident: hi pila, Agatha
Pila Mulligan: greetings
Agatha Macbeth: And hello again Pila :p
Alfred Kelberry: such a rare guest :)
Pila Mulligan: dream discussions all over the place today
Wol Euler: happy new year, Pila :)
Mickorod Renard: howz our Ags?
Agatha Macbeth: Smilin' for a change
Pila Mulligan: hauoli makahiki hou, Wol
Mickorod Renard: great :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Pila -- Welcome back!
Agatha Macbeth: That too
 
Pila Mulligan: hi Alfred
Darren Islar: smiling is good :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Sure is
Alfred Kelberry: smiling aga is a lovely sight :)
Agatha Macbeth: It's doing it can be difficult
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Pila Mulligan: et al
oO0Oo Resident: smiles are free and shine in all directions like the sun
Alfred Kelberry: sun, do you also play vuvuzela fluently? :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Mickorod Renard: lovely thought
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: There's always the Sun ;-)
Sunshine Vayandar: yes I am quite good
Sunshine Vayandar: you might hear it also if I really start
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Alfred Kelberry: gah! we're ought to organize a live concert! :)
Sunshine Vayandar: yes we could ;)
Mickorod Renard: that would be a nice idea Alf
Sunshine Vayandar: anyone plays instruments?
Agatha Macbeth: Are you going to sing Alf?
Alfred Kelberry: yes, quite a few musically inclined people around here
Alfred Kelberry: aga, you don't want to hear :)
Agatha Macbeth: You're probably right
Pila Mulligan thinks of South African football games
Agatha Macbeth: ??
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Alfred Kelberry: pila :)
Pila Mulligan: the vuvuzela Ags
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry, that one missed me totally
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm I should make one I think
Sunshine Vayandar: in SL
Darren Islar plays the piano
Sunshine Vayandar: I am the new comer ;) and from South Africa ;)
Agatha Macbeth: Very good

--BELL--

Mickorod Renard: I think I will have to go to dreams now
Pila Mulligan: it would be fun to have playable instruments for a SL thing
Pila Mulligan: sweet dreams Mick
Alfred Kelberry: night, Mick
Mickorod Renard: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: nitenitee Mick
Wol Euler: bye Mick, dream well
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Micko
Mickorod Renard: c u soon
Zon Kwan: hi there
Darren Islar: nite Mick, hey Zon
Wol Euler: well, there are plenty of musicians giving live concerts in SL
Mickorod Renard: hi Zon,  bye zon
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zon
Wol Euler: hello Zon
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Zon ;)
oO0Oo Resident: bye Mickorod
Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Zon -- always good to see you.
Alfred Kelberry: have you been to any world cup games, sun?
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm so who else plays music?
Sunshine Vayandar: yes I have
Wol Euler played (past tense) violin too
Alfred Kelberry: i play some guitar
Sunshine Vayandar: it was amazing
Sunshine Vayandar: yay Wol
Sunshine Vayandar: I try to play it often
Alfred Kelberry: ok, we have 2 violin players already for the concert :)
Sunshine Vayandar: and a guitar player
Wol Euler: actually I play bass guitar in SL :)
Alfred Kelberry: haha
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Bruce Mowbray: I took piano lessons from age 5 to age 16 -- then played as an adult.
Alfred Kelberry: never seen you doing that, wol :)
Bruce Mowbray: but haven't played the piano for many years now.
Sunshine Vayandar: kk
Wol Euler: there are many things you haven't seen me doing, Boxy :)
Alfred Kelberry: bruce, time to brush up your piano skills :)
Agatha Macbeth: Fortunately :)
Wol Euler: :-P
Alfred Kelberry: woly, mmm :)
Alfred Kelberry: Darren could help you, Bruce :)
Alfred Kelberry: Mick is back!
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm instead of me talking - I can show you some photos - to give you an idea about the cafe
Darren Islar: first I need to get the dust off my own piano :)
Wol Euler: oh, good idea.
Alfred Kelberry: hehe
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: I feel bad talking so much ;p
Alfred Kelberry: funny how music is often forgotten as we grow older
Wol Euler: naaah
Pila Mulligan: not a problem, Sunshine
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: http://www.flickr.com/photos/opencafe/sets/72157600054708803/detail/
Pila Mulligan: music is magic
Sunshine Vayandar: if u like u can have a look there
Bruce Mowbray thinks: Too many old demons involved with the piano lessons for me to return to them. . .
Agatha Macbeth: The talkative ones compensate for the quiet ones
Sunshine Vayandar: really Bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Really!
Sunshine Vayandar: I am usually very quiet
Agatha Macbeth: Sure
Pila Mulligan: but they may have moved on, Bruce
Sunshine Vayandar: so it feels strange - may be it's not me ;p
Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a good move
Darren Islar: ohhwww, too bad for such a nice instrument
Pila Mulligan: :)
Darren Islar: but I'm afraid it happens a lot
Bruce Mowbray is still working on child abuse issues related to piano. . . sry.
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Chi Aho: Sorry to hear that Bruce.
Darren Islar: I think music lessons are taught in a different way
Alfred Kelberry: Freedom Toaster :)
Wol Euler: :(
Sunshine Vayandar: I am not sure how to understand that ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: u know about the toaster?
Mickorod Renard: yea, I have a piano
Bruce Mowbray: So. . . I have THOROUGHLY enjoyed hearing your story, Sun.
Darren Islar: ohw......... that is bad, sorry
Bruce Mowbray: It is amazing, really!
Sunshine Vayandar: I am happy to have told it ;)
Alfred Kelberry: sun, just found out :)
Chi Aho: brb - the mail lady is here
Sunshine Vayandar: kk chi ;)
Bruce Mowbray: I am being called to the Working Group for PaB now -- and will start to feel guilty very soon if I don't go to that group. . .
Agatha Macbeth: Is she early or late?
Alfred Kelberry: *wonders what's in the mail*
Bruce Mowbray: So, if you folks will continue with your wonderful discussion. . . and I will sneak out. . . on tip toes...
Darren Islar: do we still have mail ladies ?
Agatha Macbeth: Looks that way
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks, everyone!
Mickorod Renard: bye Brucie
Pila Mulligan: bye Bruce
oO0Oo Resident: bye Bruce :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Brucie
Darren Islar: bye Bruce
Sunshine Vayandar: thanks Bruce for the amazing welcome
Wol Euler: hana! konnichiwa!
Wol Euler: bye bruce, take care
Sunshine Vayandar: take care ;)
Agatha Macbeth: Hai!
Darren Islar: hey hana
Hana Furlough: haha konnichiwa!
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Hana ;)
Pila Mulligan: hi Hana
Hana Furlough: i need to run to WG meeting
Hana Furlough: catch you all soon!
Pila Mulligan: :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Darren Islar: bye Hana :)
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyeee
Agatha Macbeth: Go for it
Mickorod Renard: bye hana
Wol Euler: take care, Hana, speak to you soon
Agatha Macbeth: Sayonara
Mickorod Renard: what's a WG meet?
Wol Euler: Working Group, I guess
Agatha Macbeth: A place to meet wgs
Mickorod Renard: ways of going?
Wol Euler: or that
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Agatha Macbeth: They all look alike to me
Mickorod Renard: brb, getting a cup of tea
Sunshine Vayandar: kk Mick
Alfred Kelberry: um, I have to go
Alfred Kelberry: it's been nice meeting you, sun :)
Wol Euler: bye boxy, fold well.
Sunshine Vayandar: take care Alfred ;)
oO0Oo Resident: Bye boxy :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Boxy
Alfred Kelberry: thank you for the company
Sunshine Vayandar: nice meeting you boxy ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm what are the things you chat about usually ?
Agatha Macbeth: All and everything
Pila Mulligan: bye Alfred
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Wol Euler: pretty much, yes.

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Das vidaniya Alf
Mickorod Renard: bye alf
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Wol Euler: :)
Chi Aho: :-)
Darren Islar: and about 'nothing' :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm I see ;)
Agatha Macbeth: It's hard to talk about nothing
Sunshine Vayandar: yesterday I went to a lecture about nothing
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Darren Islar: a lot of people have a lot to say about 'nothing' :)
Sunshine Vayandar: yes
Sunshine Vayandar: ppl can talk for days and days ;)
Mickorod Renard: that's so true
Pila Mulligan must slip away -- bye for now
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Pila ;)
Darren Islar: bye Pila
Agatha Macbeth: Aloha Pila, take care
Zon Kwan: byes all
Sunshine Vayandar: take care
Mickorod Renard: but a discussion about nothing could be more interesting
Mickorod Renard: bye Pila
oO0Oo Resident: bye Pila :)
Sunshine Vayandar: true Mick
Sunshine Vayandar: brb
Wol Euler: bye Pila, enjoy the day
Wol Euler: bye Zon, take care
oO0Oo Resident: bye Zon
Agatha Macbeth: C ya Zon
Mickorod Renard: bye Zon
Mickorod Renard: we discuss being sometimes
Mickorod Renard: that is a nothing too
Agatha Macbeth: Only sometimes
Darren Islar: and an everything
Darren Islar: it is a hard concept
Chi Aho: Yesterday I heard an interesting voice talk in sl
Mickorod Renard: :)
Mickorod Renard: yes?
Mickorod Renard: tell us all:)
Chi Aho: it was about the different types of ppl who log on to sl
Agatha Macbeth: Whoa, big subject
Chi Aho: according to The Roadside Philosopher
Chi Aho: very good speaker
Mickorod Renard: mmmmm
Darren Islar: and what types are there?
Chi Aho: She said there are the disassociatives, the immersives, and the augmentatives
Darren Islar: ah yes........
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes
Mickorod Renard: 3?
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Darren Islar: :)
Chi Aho: the disassociatives are really not involved; they are the opposite of the immersives who live for sl
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Mickorod Renard: I wonder which one I am?
Agatha Macbeth: I'm one of the Don't Knows
Chi Aho: then the augmentatives just want to add to what is going on
Chi Aho: She gives a talk every 2 weeks i am told

Actually, it's once a month: Pamala Clift gives her "Three States of Being in SL" on the first Tuesday of every month  - 6 p.m. SLT, at the Rockliffe University's Emerald Room

Mickorod Renard: that sounds like me
Wol Euler is definitely immersed
oO0Oo Resident: how we get from star dust to these categories, I can only wonder
Mickorod Renard: my wife says I am argumentative
Wol Euler: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: back
Darren Islar: we have those too on sl Mick, don't worry :)
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Chi Aho: yes, i hear plenty from the argumentatives in the philosophy sims
Chi Aho: LOL
Mickorod Renard: he he he
Chi Aho: This lady said she had been married 37 years
Mickorod Renard: she must know everything by now then
Chi Aho: but had a different husband in sl (with her rl husband's approval of course)
Chi Aho: true
Chi Aho: she was amazing
Chi Aho: loved hearing her speak
Darren Islar: to me it seems to be: the older you get, the more you realize you know nothing
Wol Euler smiles.
Chi Aho: how true
Sunshine Vayandar: sounds familiar
Mickorod Renard: that sounds like philosophy too
oO0Oo Resident thinks; I must have been born old
Chi Aho: this Roadside Philosopher was kind of "homespun" - refreshing
Wol Euler: :)
Darren Islar: experienced based, this time :)
Chi Aho: yes
Darren Islar: :) Sam
Mickorod Renard: I recall a strange event
Wol Euler: mmm?
Darren Islar: but that 'knowing nothing' seems to be a key to great things
Darren Islar: yes Mick?
Mickorod Renard: It was like a hallucination
Mickorod Renard: I saw this old guy at the top of some stairs/ladder
Mickorod Renard: I thought it was God
Mickorod Renard: I was well shocked
Mickorod Renard: but a passage of information came and it was me
Mickorod Renard: and in between me and me was my life
Mickorod Renard: beyond was not known
Mickorod Renard: so u never get an answer, just the life u get
Darren Islar: wow
Chi Aho: wow again
Mickorod Renard: it was just a like day dream
oO0Oo Resident: life as wow unfolding

--BELL--

Mickorod Renard: yes, spooky to see forwards
Mickorod Renard: as well as backwards
Wol Euler: that was quite wonderful, Mick.
Chi Aho: Has anyone learned things about themselves since being in sl?
Mickorod Renard: well, it seems silly now, but it was quite effecting at the time
Darren Islar: oh yes, still do
Mickorod Renard: me too
Wol Euler: yes, chi, I've learned quite a lot about "me"
Wol Euler: that me is a plural, for example
Agatha Macbeth: My name is legion for we are many
Wol Euler: but on that cliff-hanger I will have to leave you, my dears. Goodnight, take care, be happy
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Wol, have fun
Chi Aho: ty Wol; goodnight to you
Darren Islar: nite Wol :)
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Wol ;) time for me to go too
Darren Islar: bye Sun
Sunshine Vayandar: ty for the nice welcome
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
oO0Oo Resident: bye Wol:)
Darren Islar: bye Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: Nighty night all, have fun
Sunshine Vayandar: take care all
Chi Aho: bye now
oO0Oo Resident: bye Agatha
Mickorod Renard: bye Ags
Mickorod Renard: bye Sun
Mickorod Renard: sorry, i am a bit slow
Darren Islar: we noticed :)
Mickorod Renard: erk
Mickorod Renard: bye Wol
Chi Aho: Sam you have been very quiet.
Darren Islar: hehehe
oO0Oo Resident: try to listen more sometimes
oO0Oo Resident: just let it flow
oO0Oo Resident: and chime in when the spirit moves
Chi Aho: and?
oO0Oo Resident: when the group grows as it did this round, I notice it is harder to keep up with the pace, and my tendency is to back off and give space
oO0Oo Resident: then, like now, it changes again
oO0Oo Resident: a bit more intimate
Darren Islar: yes
Chi Aho: Want to tell us anything about yourself?
oO0Oo Resident: I'd like to tell you that I'm a 6th degree black belt in something, but .... I'm not-  lol
Darren Islar: :)
oO0Oo Resident: Revelation comes in weird ways with me
oO0Oo Resident: sometimes the tap is on, sometimes not
Chi Aho: from meditation?
Mickorod Renard: I am nothing special in that respect either, its nice to come to terms with that and not feel undervalued
oO0Oo Resident: I am pretty new to SL, and not settled in any way of being yet
Mickorod Renard: is that being or Being?
Mickorod Renard: he he
Chi Aho: i have found that different sims seem to develop their own group culture
oO0Oo Resident: :) Mick
Darren Islar: like in rl yes
Chi Aho: here it is more gentle than many places
oO0Oo Resident: yes different cultures Chi
Mickorod Renard: here it is very accommodating
oO0Oo Resident: To me, this is a remarkable experiment
oO0Oo Resident: with indirect magical miracles
Chi Aho agrees
Darren Islar: sl is or PaB is, or both
Mickorod Renard: do you mean PaB or SL?
Darren Islar: snap
Mickorod Renard: ahh, he he
oO0Oo Resident: PaB
Mickorod Renard: yes, that is a strong expression but perhaps accurate
Darren Islar: how so Sam?
oO0Oo Resident: Well, if I were to answer that fully, I'm afraid I might inadvertently cause a shift in the universe that would steer PaB in a way I would not like ;)
Mickorod Renard: :)
oO0Oo Resident: howzat?
Darren Islar: the weirdest answer I ever got :)
oO0Oo Resident: snap
Mickorod Renard: I think if I recall all the avi characters that have visited during my duration, which is quite a long time, I have only seen positive effects

--BELL--

Darren Islar: I guess I need to make a shift in my own universe
Mickorod Renard: me too, getting late
Darren Islar: see you :)
Mickorod Renard: bye darren
Chi Aho: that rl thing; me too
Mickorod Renard: bye Guys, have fun
Darren Islar: right :)
oO0Oo Resident: bye all, I press on too. Lovely to see you all
Chi Aho: see you Mick
Chi Aho: bye all
Mickorod Renard: bye Chi,,oOOOo
oO0Oo Resident: best wishes all