2011.10.17 19:00 - Reality of Emotion and Strange Attractions

The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza, joined by Stevenaia and oO0Oo, with sightings of Susan and Aphrodite...

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eliza, how are you?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevie, lovely to see you
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, Hi Samud
stevenaia Michinaga: you looked like you were doing a moon walk over there
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Girls
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Samúð :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: your eyes are striking tonight Eliza
stevenaia Michinaga: hello APh
Eliza Madrigal: why, thanks Stevie :))
Eliza Madrigal bats lashes
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite :)
Aphrodite Macbain: hello again. Notices there's a lttle sam in the air. bats at it
oO0Oo Resident: cams in on Elizas eyes
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Your eyes are very blue
Aphrodite Macbain: at least one is
stevenaia Michinaga: green, Aph

Eliza Madrigal: We had an interesting visitor this morning... she asked "Why are we doing this?"
Eliza Madrigal: about the pauses...
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm having a hard time with lag tonight. I may have topoof.
Aphrodite Macbain: and poof
Eliza Madrigal: glad you are unstuck, though
stevenaia Michinaga: were you online or jsut pausing, Eliza
stevenaia Michinaga: pardon my typing
Eliza Madrigal: This was in this morning's session... filling in for Zen
Aphrodite Macbain: What did you answer Eliza?

Eliza Madrigal: we shared about the pauses, each in turn
Eliza Madrigal: it was sort of nice that way... and she shared....
Aphrodite Macbain: but we aren't about the pauses - not only
Eliza Madrigal: true
Eliza Madrigal: yet if anyone asks me what the heart of things is, I point there

Aphrodite Macbain: although the negative spaces are as important as the positive ones
stevenaia Michinaga: so much in those words, Aphodite
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm going to have to go. Bon soir mes amis
stevenaia Michinaga: what is a negative space?
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, bye Aph
stevenaia Michinaga: hold that thought :)
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Eliza Madrigal: you can continue though :)
oO0Oo Resident: Bye Aph

stevenaia Michinaga: wonders what she ment? positive and negative space, good and bad space? all space id negative space
Eliza Madrigal: think the analogy was discussion/silence?
stevenaia Michinaga: but it can be uplifting
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
stevenaia Michinaga: positive negative space :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes :)))
Eliza Madrigal: someone said 'the in-breaths take care of themselves'
stevenaia Michinaga: I have been in depressing spces too
oO0Oo Resident: perhaps "negative spaces" as used in art?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, not all space is emotional
stevenaia Michinaga: (in a negative way)
stevenaia Michinaga: in fact all space is emotional when experienced
stevenaia Michinaga: but I am rambling :)

Eliza Madrigal: no that's an interesting point...
Eliza Madrigal: you mean facing space?
stevenaia Michinaga: any experience can be emotional, any space is an experience
stevenaia Michinaga: space we walk though
stevenaia Michinaga: is what I am refering to
stevenaia Michinaga: it is experienced or ignored as a way to get soemwhere

stevenaia Michinaga: hi susan
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Susan :)
Eliza Madrigal: How are you?
Eliza Madrigal: your first session went very well
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Susan
Eliza Madrigal: (hosting I mean)
stevenaia Michinaga: did you post it ok?
iwandertoo Resident: hey
iwandertoo Resident: sorry
iwandertoo Resident: havent posted it yet

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hmm
Eliza Madrigal: What about space in SL?
stevenaia Michinaga: hmmmm, interesting question
stevenaia Michinaga: Storm has mastered SL space
stevenaia Michinaga: bye susan
Eliza Madrigal: (hope susan wasn't worried about the log just then, don't think so)

stevenaia Michinaga: I love this pavilion, maybe cause I spend so much time here
stevenaia Michinaga: I offered a log posting party when she is ready
Eliza Madrigal: there are indeed sacred spots in SL I think
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, nice of you, hah
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, but there are no SL ruins.. jsut dissappearences
Eliza Madrigal: I went back to a Zen Retreat meditation tonight, first time in a while...
Eliza Madrigal: felt remarkable
Eliza Madrigal: like many things clicked in
oO0Oo Resident: ...some ghost sims....
Eliza Madrigal: :))
stevenaia Michinaga: where the group meditation takes place?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: near the original tea hut where PaB began
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Eliza Madrigal: I do miss when Dakini would change the weather :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hehe
stevenaia Michinaga: forgot about that
Eliza Madrigal: hm...

stevenaia Michinaga: Have you taking the monday night spot, ELiza or filling in?
Eliza Madrigal: I'm here for now... trying it out :)
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eliza Madrigal: not quite as perky last thing as first though, hah
stevenaia Michinaga: let me know how it works out, I am usually around monday nights
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks
Eliza Madrigal: I've enjoyed the sessions so far, very different
oO0Oo Resident: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: different from what? another time?
stevenaia Michinaga: AM
Eliza Madrigal: yes... my usual pattern is morning
Eliza Madrigal: so fun to try new ones
stevenaia Michinaga: aww

stevenaia Michinaga: have you been attending the Friday morning Sessions with Maxine?
Eliza Madrigal: yes :)
Eliza Madrigal: really wonderful
stevenaia Michinaga: are they recorded?
Eliza Madrigal: yes.... look for 6 am
stevenaia Michinaga: (posted)
Eliza Madrigal: I've labled them with Regarding Reality
Eliza Madrigal: one sec....
stevenaia Michinaga: I have scheduling issues unfortunately, ok
Eliza Madrigal: Maxine has a wonderful way of describing emotion
oO0Oo Resident: how would you describe that Eliza?

Eliza Madrigal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2011/10/2011.10.14_07%3a00_-_Regarding_Reality%3a_Protective_Shells_and_Healing_Caves
Eliza Madrigal: so insightful, noticingsof describing emotion? or the session?
Eliza Madrigal: Oops... two lines
Eliza Madrigal: :)
oO0Oo Resident: :) I meant her way of describing emotion as you saw that.
Eliza Madrigal: Oh :)
Eliza Madrigal: Maxine sees and factors projections
oO0Oo Resident: *insightful*
Eliza Madrigal: which I think is an insightful aspect
oO0Oo Resident: wow.. interesting

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: intuitive?
stevenaia Michinaga: hinking of the diferences between the two
stevenaia Michinaga: thining
stevenaia Michinaga: thinking
Eliza Madrigal: that, and just quite sensitive, takes her time...
Eliza Madrigal: and in doing so I think she's able to separate things many of us clump together
Eliza Madrigal: and those clumps can be overwhelming, emotionally
stevenaia Michinaga: clearity is a gift
Eliza Madrigal: yes and I think her 'practice' :)
Eliza Madrigal feels fuzzy thinking of Maxine's gentleness

stevenaia Michinaga: it was nice meeting her in RL
stevenaia Michinaga: actually everyone I have met from PaB in RL ha been remarkable
stevenaia Michinaga: strange attactions
Eliza Madrigal: I like us :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: wonder what it is :)
stevenaia Michinaga: let's ask Maxine :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: maybe the focus on dreams helps too
Eliza Madrigal: re Maxine's clarity
stevenaia Michinaga: focus on dreams? dreaming?
stevenaia Michinaga: awww
stevenaia Michinaga: her focus

Eliza Madrigal: somehow I've felt in these first two sessions that we've talked about sensitive things without feeling bogged down by that
Eliza Madrigal: What do you feel Sam? You attended the last...
stevenaia Michinaga: you mean vulnerable?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
Eliza Madrigal: indeed :)
oO0Oo Resident: I agree with Maxine's positive qualities, and she holds a seat well in meetings, and balances many things that allow for what you describe Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: 'that allow for'
Eliza Madrigal nods

oO0Oo Resident: RE: real life meeting being positive: I think the willingness to stay again and again through all of what happens here, means that people who end up on RL retreat togther, tend to have experienced so much together anyway, that RL meeting is bound to be a blessing rather than a threat of any kind
Eliza Madrigal: persistent openness?
stevenaia Michinaga: seems so

oO0Oo Resident: it's so interesting as a space to meet space
oO0Oo Resident: one can come and go freely
oO0Oo Resident: so
oO0Oo Resident: we get to work with aversion and desire directly
oO0Oo Resident: and see where/when we are open and closed
oO0Oo Resident: but one needs to walk into the space.. and be willing to stay in some way
oO0Oo Resident: the architecture holds up
stevenaia Michinaga: :), we rely on that
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: so insightful, too...

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: experiment:
Eliza Madrigal: ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Stevie
stevenaia Michinaga: ??
oO0Oo Resident: Stevie))))))))))))))))))))))
Eliza Madrigal: wait... hhehe
Eliza Madrigal: group hug :)
Eliza Madrigal: something like that anyway
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, thought you had a cat on your keyboears
Eliza Madrigal: keybears...cute
oO0Oo Resident: "keyboers" is a keeper
Eliza Madrigal giggling
oO0Oo Resident: *keyboers
oO0Oo Resident: keyboears lol
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Eliza Madrigal now wonders where cat is
Eliza Madrigal: how is your cat stevie?
stevenaia Michinaga: all I see it missplace fingers full of freudian slips
stevenaia Michinaga: cat is back to normal, eating, going out taking pills 2x a day
Eliza Madrigal: great :)
Eliza Madrigal: some normals are nice
stevenaia Michinaga: going out side ever 5 minutes...cause he can
stevenaia Michinaga: they truely can train human to do what they need doing
oO0Oo Resident: resting head on Stevie arm when need be
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, that is a winter sport of kitty, computer company

Eliza Madrigal: wow, misspellings in the absynthe script :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I had nothing to do with that
stevenaia Michinaga: it seems to work though
Eliza Madrigal: :)

oO0Oo Resident: thinking about your Tai Chi visualisations Stevenaia... gave me permission to do something similar.
stevenaia Michinaga: :). what path did you choose to trace?
oO0Oo Resident: I let myself imagine I was having a full body massage
stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm, not the you moving but something moving you, interesting
oO0Oo Resident: went through it in my mind
Eliza Madrigal listen
Eliza Madrigal: s
oO0Oo Resident: I projected a very kind and talented massage therapist ;)
stevenaia Michinaga: did you feel it or see it? (or both)
oO0Oo Resident: and we explored my body together
oO0Oo Resident: both
oO0Oo Resident: and back and forth
Eliza Madrigal: subject object reversal?
stevenaia Michinaga: I found each time things become clearer, more complete in experience
stevenaia Michinaga: was thinking that Eliza, like YSBS

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: only this is more physical visualization
stevenaia Michinaga: watch yourself meditate sometime, ELiza
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: when you are about to go to sleep
Eliza Madrigal: :) interesting
Eliza Madrigal: falling to sleep I disappear
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, this will make you sleep quicker (it puts me right to sleep, jsut as it gets interesting)
Eliza Madrigal: sort of a sally?
stevenaia Michinaga: sally?
Eliza Madrigal: mmm... intentional open ended story I guess
Eliza Madrigal: lia has talked about those before
Eliza Madrigal: but I guess not much... bit different
Eliza Madrigal: but somehow looking from angles gives a tangible impression, so thinking :)
stevenaia Michinaga: getting sleepie

Eliza Madrigal: thanks for staying... interesting talk... think I will read parts of it again :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I must be because I am visualizing my tai chi moves
stevenaia Michinaga: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
stevenaia Michinaga: nigth ELiza, Samud
oO0Oo Resident: hehe
oO0Oo Resident: Night Stevenaia :)
Eliza Madrigal: night :))