2009.01.06 07:00 - Squee

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     Riddle Sideways was GoC for this morning and is adding the comments.

    Other very close title (or at least sub-title) chooses included:
        Befriend a Programmer
        Voices vs Images vs what is said

    A slow quiet morning.  Little Red Dragon is the pet I mention later that I just got and left over at my house.

    PaB Listener Master: Recording has started!
    Little Red Dragon: , I am lost at:Buyeo<25.83642, 20.41627, 22.27482>
    Riddle Sideways: Good Morning, Master Listener
    Adelene joins me in a new av (at least to me).  Very impressive melding of human (2 legs / 2 arms) body and animal furry paws/claws and head.  Thanks Gaya, for the snapshot.  It may help the reader understand.2008.01.06 7AM_001.png
    Riddle Sideways: good morning, Addlene
    Adelene Dawner: Good morning :)\
    Riddle Sideways: that is so creative
    Adelene Dawner: hm?
    Riddle Sideways: you magik light when you type

    came back to finish the commenting that I was so interrupted from and found a lot of comments did not get saved here. Wish I could remember all the witty and poinient things I wrote :)

    Adelene is typing, but it looks like waving of hands around an orb of pulsing light or illumined cystal ball.

    Adelene Dawner: Ah :)
    Riddle Sideways: I just wiggle my arms
    Adelene Dawner nods. "Typers aren't hard to come by - I got this one at Grendel's, and they have several choices there."
    Riddle Sideways writes that down
    Adelene Dawner: hehe
    Riddle Sideways: one of these days (years) I am going to learn this SL wiz-bang stuff
    Adelene Dawner: The beauty is, you don't really have to... Scripting is nice to know, but you can buy all this stuff pre-made, really.
    Ah, a perfect openning.
    Adelene Dawner: (or, yanno, befriend a programmer and ask 'em to make you whatever you want ^.^)
    Riddle Sideways: ok, ummmm will you be my friend :)
    Adelene Dawner chuckles.
    Riddle Sideways: storm, does lots for me, land-wise
    Adelene Dawner nods.
    Riddle Sideways: now that sounds funny
    Riddle Sideways: a storm shapes my ocean front property
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    And here is the news of how hard/busy RL can be.
    Riddle Sideways: meanwhile what has been up with you
    Adelene Dawner: Well, I'm not homeless.
    Riddle Sideways: have seen that you are online, but haven't seen ya here
    Adelene Dawner: It was hit and miss for a while...
    Riddle Sideways: oh, good. good to have a roof in winter
    Adelene Dawner: yes.
    Adelene Dawner: I'm in the process of moving, as my now-ex boyfriend and I have not been getting along well for the last ... oh, couple years, really. Corvi's coming to get me and bring me to my new apartment, tomorrow actually, but Tommy and I had a nasty fight and he kicked me outon Friday.
    Adelene Dawner: I'm staying with my parents for now, which is not pleasant - I don't get along well with my parents.
    Riddle Sideways: being a parent and a child I can understand both sides
    Adelene Dawner: mm.
    Riddle Sideways: I love my son, but have trouble being under same roof for weeks
    Riddle Sideways: moving is such a ....
    Riddle Sideways: [fill in blank]
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm
    Riddle Sideways: hi abigail
    Well, I thought I read Abigail as who entered, but the logs shows Adams.
    Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle and Adelene :)
    Adelene Dawner: hullo ^.^
    Squee: Possessing knowledge has two advantages: you judge less, and you judge better.
    I spent the next few minutes looking around for who Squee is and where the voice is coming from.
    Adams Rubble notes Adelene's new shape with interest
    Adelene Dawner got sick of not being able to use poseballs ^.^
    Adams Rubble: Very nice look, Adelene :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: Abagail gets idea... watch Adams be half animal (forgotten name) next
    Riddle Sideways: Ani-morphs?
    Adelene Dawner: Furry, or anthromorphic.
    Adams Rubble thinks there are enough selves in this corporation :)
    Adelene Dawner chuckles.
    Riddle Sideways: nah, you got room for more
    Adams Rubble would need a database to keep track :)
    Adelene Dawner thinks of it much less as 'selves' and much more as 'states'.
    Riddle Sideways: how do novelist keep track of all those characters
    Adams Rubble: Lots of ways to think about it
    Here is a well turned phrase.  I will try to use it in conversations over the next week.
    A positive spin on what I call AAD (Adult Attention Deficient).

    Adelene Dawner: The difference being a lack of intentional continuity.
    Riddle Sideways: oooo like that
    Riddle Sideways: you have soooo much going on intentionally, that lack of it would be good
    Adelene Dawner: well, most people have a lot going on intentionally, I'll give you that.
    Adams Rubble: What often seems intentional either is or turns into something else
    Adelene Dawner nods, wondering if 'intentional' is even really the right word.
    Adams Rubble: ..or just gets out of hand :)
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Adams Rubble: What's in a word among friends :)
    Riddle Sideways: continuity is not all it is cracked up to be anyway
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adelene Dawner: I find that continuity arises on its own just fine, without me paying any attention to it at all.
    Gaya enters.
    Adams Rubble: hello Gaya :)
    Riddle Sideways: between friends is were many words take on the best meanings
    Adelene Dawner waves to Gaya
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel: Apologies for being late
    Adelene Dawner: No worries :)
    Riddle Sideways: NP
    Adams Rubble chuckles...
    Adams Rubble: Just got here myself Gaya
    Riddle Sideways: I was 2 min. late too
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel smiles. Hello everyone
    Adelene Dawner: Gaya has a new look, too. Interesting.
    Adams Rubble smiles back
    Adelene Dawner: And, RL calls. Back later, maybe.
    Gaya Ethaniel: oh
    Adams Rubble: bye Adelene :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy your day Adele
    Adams Rubble will have to go suddenly too at some point, not yet
    Gaya Ethaniel snapshots Adele's new look quickly before she leaves
    Adams Rubble: I just came on to check out an historic synagogue on SL and noticed it was PaB times
    Adams Rubble: fore the exhibition
    Riddle Sideways: oh, where is synagogue?
    Riddle Sideways: and thanks for taking photo, my vid card does not take good pics
    Adams Rubble: It is the Toledo Beth Shalom Synagogue that was converted to S.Maria la Blanca. It is in the Al Anadalus complex in SL
    Gaya Ethaniel: [I will send you a copy Riddle]
    And Gaya did send it to me, thanks. I compared it to one I took and my photos just don't turn out that good.
    Adams Rubble: They had to reconstruct the synagogie parts
    Riddle Sideways: TY
    Adams Rubble: It has many fewer bays than the original. Those were the things I needed to check
    Riddle Sideways: so, the SL copy is more complete then the RL one
    Adams Rubble: Yes and no :)
    Adams Rubble: More of a synagogue, less of a building
    Adelene Dawner is back.
    Riddle Sideways: wb
    Adams Rubble: wb
    Gaya Ethaniel: wb :)
    Adelene Dawner: (my old job, needing tech support ^.^)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel likes the little friend on Adele's head
    Adelene Dawner: Thanks, Gaya. ^.^
    Squee: The heart wants what the heart wants.
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Finally, Gaya points out where Squee is.
    Riddle Sideways: ah, so that is Squee
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm ^.^
    Riddle Sideways: could not find
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Adams Rubble: It is a seeing exercise :)
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Riddle Sideways: and I failed :)
    Adelene Dawner chuckles.
    Adams Rubble didn;t mean to imply that :(
    Squee gets some attention and makes the most of the opportunity.
    Squee: Being happy doesn't mean every thing's perfect; it just means you've decided to see beyond the imperfections.
    Squee: I can see beauty where others see ugliness. That either makes me an artist, or a person with very poor taste.
    Adams Rubble: yup
    Squee: Ignore the propaganda. Focus on what you see.
    Squee: It's vital to remember who you really are. It's very important. It isn't a good idea to rely on other people or things to do it for you, you see. They always get it wrong.
    Squee: No truth can make another truth untrue. All knowledge is part of the whole knowledge. Once you have seen the larger pattern, You cannot get back to seeing the part as the whole.
    Adelene Dawner: oh, no, there he goes ^.^
    Riddle Sideways: hehehe
    Squee: We don't see things as they are. We see them as we are.
    Adams Rubble: Squee has found a soapbox it seems
    Squee: You can only see as far as you think.
    Adelene Dawner swats Squee. "Shoosh."
    Squee: eep!
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Adams Rubble: Lots of things for iddle to comment on
    Adams Rubble: Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: yep, haha
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    I really should just fill the borders with comments now. :)   As usual this is when I can't think of any.
    Adelene Dawner is fond of the second of those quotes, about seeing beauty where others see ugliness.
    Adams Rubble liked the imperfection quote
    Gaya Ethaniel likes all the quotes
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways is lost into a couple of the quotes
    Riddle Sideways: did little squee swallow a quote book?
    Riddle Sideways: or are they squee's originals
    Adelene Dawner: Just about. He knows more than 350 of 'em.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Squee sounds somewhat similar to a person I know :)
    Adelene Dawner: Squee uses a modified version of Faenic's script to read quotes from a file I made - some are things that were said by people I know, most are gleaned from the internet.
    The images we put to voices (or even text) before we meet the speaker.
    Riddle Sideways: before I knew the look/size of squee I heard a different voice
    Riddle Sideways: funny, how appearences can change text voices
    Adelene Dawner: hehe
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Do you think we have something equivalent of such effects in RL in terms of appearances?
    Adelene Dawner: I'm sure we do.
    Riddle Sideways was not sure they we wanted to go there
    Riddle Sideways: that
    Adams Rubble thinks of intercoms
    Riddle Sideways: is email RL
    Gaya Ethaniel: At work, I used to get an image of a person over the phone [ie IT support members in the company] and often get surprised when meeting in person
    Riddle Sideways: and Radio personalities
    Adams Rubble: and RL avatars :)
    Adelene Dawner: Body language is a big deal, too... there's things I just can't do, RLwise, because my body language syncs so poorly with what I'm saying or doing that people tend not to react to me as they would to most people.
    Adelene Dawner: So anything that relies on someone else choosing to be 'friendly' with me...
    Adams Rubble nods
    Adelene Dawner shrugs. Such is life.
    Gaya Ethaniel nods...

    Riddle Sideways: the heart of that is the "relies on someone else choosing"
    Adelene Dawner nods.
    Riddle Sideways: we can't predict, dictate nor afix that
    Adams Rubble: yes Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: just live with it
    Adelene Dawner: I'd argue 'predict', at least in a general sense, but, yeah.
    Adams Rubble: We can remain as constant as we are able
    Adams Rubble: back to continuity :)
    Riddle Sideways: again, all we can change is our attitude toward it
    Adelene Dawner nods.
    Adams Rubble: yep
    Adelene Dawner: (And people wonder why auties tend to be asocial...)
    Gaya Ethaniel nods @ changing oneself
    Squee: Just because I'm busy doesn't mean I don't love you.
    Riddle Sideways: then again, there is "ya can't always get what ya want.... but if you try sometimes..."
    Adelene Dawner: Yup.
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adelene Dawner: But it does get to the point where it's not worth beating your head against a wall for every little thing, only for the stuff that's important.
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    Adams Rubble: There's not too much worth beating one's head against the wall :)
    Adelene Dawner nods.
    Adams Rubble: unless one is looking for the lectrical wires
    Riddle Sideways: except headaches
    Gaya Ethaniel: Even for the important stuff, perhaps something more genteel than beating one's head against the wall perhaps
    Riddle Sideways: "... ya get want ya need"
    Adams Rubble thinks it may be time to stop beating her head against the wall
    Riddle Sideways: yep
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    Adelene Dawner: :)
    Riddle Sideways: are you looking for lectrical wires?
    Riddle Sideways: then go ahead
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, I really should never write peoples own words back to them
    Riddle Sideways: I would not like that
    Adelene Dawner: Why not, Riddle?
    Adams Rubble looking over the log. hehe
    Gaya Ethaniel: Yes why not?
    Adelene Dawner often finds having her own words repeated back to be useful.
    Gaya Ethaniel nods
    Adams Rubble wonders why there are so many dents in the wall
    Riddle Sideways: well, adel and squee your words are worth repeating
    Adelene Dawner: hehe
    Adelene Dawner: That's part of Squee's job, too - theres' a few things in there that I've said, that are useful for me to be reminded of, too.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Sounds painful Adams
    Gaya Ethaniel: Wish I have something like Squee in RL :)
    Adelene Dawner hmmmmms
    Riddle Sideways erases what was about to comment
    Adelene Dawner: Actually, Gaya, that wouldn't be too hard to do, except that you'd have to remember to ask it for a quote by yourself.
    Adams Rubble: Sorry I have to go. bye :)
    Adelene Dawner: cya, Adams.
    Gaya Ethaniel: See you later Adams
    Riddle Sideways: bye Abagail
    Adams Rubble is Offline
    Gaya Ethaniel: You mean a programme or a soft toy like your AV?
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Adelene Dawner: Well, what I was thinking of was even lower tech than that... ^.^
    Adelene Dawner: Something like a deck of cards, with one saying on each... shuffle 'em and pick one.
    Riddle Sideways: brb
    Gaya Ethaniel: ok
    Adelene Dawner: Or look through, or whatever.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Or... a web page with a quote of the day... have you seen something like that online?
    Adelene Dawner: yep.
    Gaya Ethaniel: oh do share please :)
    Adelene Dawner: oh... didn't save it, when I did.
    Gaya Ethaniel: I will google it, no worries :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Find a 'motivational' quote - Don't stay long when the husband is not at home. (Japanese Proverb)
    Gaya Ethaniel: mm...?
    Adelene Dawner: o.O
    Gaya Ethaniel nods...
    Gaya Ethaniel closes the web page :)
    Adelene Dawner: I'm ating Squee's quote file as we speak - I can give you a copy of that and the script, if you want to make your own quotey friend. ^.^
    Riddle Sideways: back
    Gaya Ethaniel: oh oh thank you so much Adele but... this will lead you to provide 'support' when I make a friend :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: wb :)
    Squee: Shrinking away from death is something unhealthy and abnormal which robs the second half of life of its purpose.
    Adelene Dawner: nah, it's easy. I fixed the script up so all you do is find a moddable shoulder pet or something, drop the script in, drop the notecard in, and you're done.
    Gaya Ethaniel: :) sounds great thanks Adele
    Riddle Sideways: ah (liking back to early chat) now gaya has a programmer friend
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Adelene Dawner: hehe
    Adelene Dawner gave you Adelene's Quotefile 1/06/09.
    Riddle Sideways: TY
    Adelene Dawner gave you Chatty Pet Script.
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks :)
    Riddle Sideways: I just got a pet dragon, but it did not follow me today
    Riddle Sideways: this might help
    Gaya Ethaniel: :) why dragon may I ask?
    Adelene Dawner checks the script. "It should work either way, but it may give you an error if you put the script in before the notecard, so put the notecard in first."
    Gaya Ethaniel: ok :)
    Riddle Sideways: it came free
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Riddle Sideways: long story, but wizard and dragons are linked
    Riddle Sideways: even tho they fight
    Riddle Sideways: is good to keep dragon where you can see it
    Gaya Ethaniel: oh didn't know that... about wizard and dragon
    Riddle Sideways: bits of knowledge I choose to keep
    Adelene Dawner: Western dragons are a bit different from eastern dragons, Gaya.
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: How so?
    Adelene Dawner: Meaner, for one.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah... that's a 'western' trait... imo
    Adelene Dawner: More interested in humans. More likely to hold a grudge.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Dragon and grudge...? Interesting
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm
    Adelene Dawner: One common story theme is that if you steal something from a dragon's horde, even a small simple thing, not worth much, he'll follow you to the ends of the earth to get revenge and get the thing back.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah... yes like 'the hobbit' :)
    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm
    Riddle Sideways: many times I look at my cats (one in particular) and see the (western) dragon-ness of it
    Adelene Dawner hmms, and squashes a potential bug in the chatty pet script... delete the one I gave you, guys, and I'll give you an update.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ok
    Gaya Ethaniel: How many do you have Riddle?
    Riddle Sideways: 3 cats, very different
    Adelene Dawner gave you Chatty Pet Script.
    Riddle Sideways: ah, speaking of bugs... I need to go to work soon
    Gaya Ethaniel: ty :)
    Riddle Sideways: ty
    Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy your day Riddle. I should go and look for a pet looking like Adele
    Riddle Sideways: that would be funny
    Adelene Dawner: heh
    Riddle Sideways: if my av had a small av on shoulder
    Gaya Ethaniel: Can't imagine wearing a lion somehow though :) Would be happy to find something as cute
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
    Adelene Dawner: Plenty to choose from at Grendel's. ^.^
    Riddle Sideways: if each of us wore a little friend that looked like another PaB member
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Have a good day Adele and thanks again
    Gaya Ethaniel: Engage...
    Riddle Sideways: yes, thanks
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Adelene Dawner: See you around, Riddle.
    Riddle Sideways: ok, and have fun with all your new adventures
    Adelene Dawner: ^.^
    Adelene Dawner: Will do.
    Riddle Sideways: changes can be fun tooo

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