The Guardian for this session was Genesis Zhangsun.
Fael Illyar: Hi gen :)
Susi Alcott: hi gen
Susi Alcott: RL phone
genesis Zhangsun: Hey Fael and Susi
genesis Zhangsun: ok
genesis Zhangsun: cute outfit Fael :)
genesis Zhangsun: Hey Myoko
Myoko Fhang: Hey guys
genesis Zhangsun: so you are a guardian now :)
Fael Illyar: Hi Myoko :)
genesis Zhangsun: welcome
Myoko Fhang: My god, I just noticed...
Susi Alcott: hi Myoko
Fael Illyar: not quite the pose I was looking for but it'll do
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
genesis Zhangsun: you hadn't realized?
genesis Zhangsun: it sort of creeps up on you I agree ;)
Fael Illyar: until you get used to it, it might surprise you :)
genesis Zhangsun: Fael are you getting some therapy?
Fael Illyar: therapy?
genesis Zhangsun: yes some treatment from Susi?
Myoko Fhang: I guess I have, it just realized I got to behave now....
Fael Illyar: No, just sitting in Susi's lap :)
Susi Alcott: sitting on lap therapy
genesis Zhangsun: :)
genesis Zhangsun: that is the best kind :)
genesis Zhangsun: so hows it going? Anyone want to bring up anything?
Susi Alcott: or maybe Fael gives therapy to me
Susi Alcott: letting me have her on my lap therapy
Fael Illyar: maybe both ways? :)
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Myoko Fhang: I am just curiouse as a new guardian. How consistent are you with the practis? Asking cause I am not that persistent myself...
Myoko Fhang: Thinking aout the 9 secs...
genesis Zhangsun: Oh yeah I think is is good to do obviously so that you can share the experience with newcomers but I don't think it is necessary or central
Fael Illyar: When I started, I was quite consistent but lately ... I do remember doing them sometimes but ... most of times it doesn't stay in my memory so I'm hesitant to say consistent or not consistent :)
genesis Zhangsun: there are other way as you know Myoko to get the same 9 second effect
genesis Zhangsun: but good question!
Myoko Fhang: Thats the thing, I don\t feel that well dressed for answering questions....
Myoko Fhang: Then again, I guess it's like so many other things> try your best, and don't be to hard on your self if it slips.
genesis Zhangsun: yes exactly :)
Fael Illyar: Hi Solo :)
genesis Zhangsun: we are not "experts" as Guardians but rather just facilitators
genesis Zhangsun: if we don't know we try to help them get some answers elsewhere
Myoko Fhang: Right. Good point
genesis Zhangsun: and some questions, or perhaps most there really are no right answers too
Fael Illyar: no expert/non-expert categorization at PaB ... at least no official ones.
Solobill Laville: Heya, all :)
Susi Alcott: hi Solo
Myoko Fhang: hi solo
genesis Zhangsun: just perspectives and yours is as good as anyones
genesis Zhangsun: or better as I know from personal experience :)
genesis Zhangsun: Hey Solo!
Solobill Laville smiles at Gen
genesis Zhangsun: was that you Fael?
genesis Zhangsun: the additional chime?
Fael Illyar: perhaps this watch Moon gave me :)
Fael Illyar: on my AV's right wrist
genesis Zhangsun: :)
genesis Zhangsun: So any topics of interest?
Susi Alcott: how are you genesis today ?
genesis Zhangsun: thanks for asking Susi...sometimes I am just so right to business
genesis Zhangsun: I am doing fine
genesis Zhangsun: and you?
Susi Alcott: good to hear ; I'm fine too
Fael Illyar is good today.
genesis Zhangsun: I had a great massage in RL before going to sleep last night and had the best sleep I have had in weeks :)
Fael Illyar: a bit exhausted but good.
genesis Zhangsun: how's your cold Fael?
Susi Alcott: Fael has birth day today
genesis Zhangsun: AH!! Happy Birthday :)
Fael Illyar: umm, tomorrow to be exact :P
Susi Alcott: aha
Fael Illyar: Corvi just wanted to hold a get together today as she's not around tomorrow.
genesis Zhangsun: Ah yes that is the notecard I received :) I had not had a chance to look at it yet
Susi Alcott: in Japan it's tomorrow already
genesis Zhangsun: what time is the get together?
Fael Illyar smiles 'All that's left of my cold is a cough, although I'm not so sure if it's related anymore.'
Fael Illyar: was
Fael Illyar: but I think I'll hold one myself at my new place tomorrow :)
genesis Zhangsun: oh sorry to hear I missed it :)
genesis Zhangsun: ok but let me know about tomorrow
genesis Zhangsun: glad to hear you feel better
genesis Zhangsun: I have also had a nasty cough for some weeks
Fael Illyar: many seem to have sticky coughs lately ...
genesis Zhangsun: funny to think we might have the same strain of virus :)
genesis Zhangsun: from Finland to California
genesis Zhangsun: the beauty of interconnectedness no?
Solobill Laville: Maybe SL is a virus and we all have it
Solobill Laville: or it has us...
Play as being Watch for mens will ring next in 5 minutes 21 seconds.
genesis Zhangsun: hehe yes a pretty sticky one too
Fael Illyar: Yep :)
Susi Alcott: hi Fefonz
Fael Illyar: Hi Fefonz :)
genesis Zhangsun: Hey Fefonz
Solobill Laville: Hello, FQ
Fefonz Quan: Hey guys :)
Fael Illyar: Hi Steve :)
genesis Zhangsun: Yo FQ, thanks for coining that SL
Solobill Laville: ;)
genesis Zhangsun: we can keep up the theme from last week starting with BO
Solobill Laville: hehe
genesis Zhangsun: I'm GZ not quite as cool as Jay Z but it works ;)
Fael Illyar: BO...?
stevenaia Michinaga: happy birthday Fael
Fefonz Quan: didn't coin that one :)
genesis Zhangsun: yes as in what would Barack Obama do?
Solobill Laville: Heya, Steve
Fael Illyar smiles 'Thank you Steve.'
genesis Zhangsun: Hey Steve :)
Fael Illyar: (although it's actually tomorrow)
stevenaia Michinaga: don't know if I will see you tomarrow
Fael Illyar: Well, there's that :)
Solobill Laville: BO = Barack Obama, from last week's chat... > Fefonz
Solobill Laville: Oops, sorry > Fael
Fefonz Quan: that's what happens when you notice just the first latter :)
Solobill Laville nods
Susi Alcott: hi steve
genesis Zhangsun: So how are you Steve and Fefonz?
Fael Illyar: Oh, not FZ, but FI?
Solobill Laville: yup :)
Fefonz Quan: great, did we interrupt in the middle of a fascinating disccusion?
Fael Illyar: interesting, I just realized that I've got my countrycode as my name's first letters :P
genesis Zhangsun: actually no :)
Solobill Laville: yep, you killed it...just kidding
stevenaia Michinaga: was snowed in today, was a very nice day for me
Fefonz Quan: snowy white here too
genesis Zhangsun: sounds fun! so no work then :)
Solobill Laville: nice....shovelling outside?
Susi Alcott: snowed the whole day ?
stevenaia Michinaga: had a son to shovel so I was very work-productive
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
stevenaia Michinaga: well I did go out, it doesn't take much to find an excuse not to travel to work, even 6" of snow and ice
genesis Zhangsun: thats what kids are good for...waiting for my 2 year old to get big enough to hold a shovel ;)
Fefonz Quan: is it before they do dishes?
genesis Zhangsun: dishes would be excellent too, probably more useful here in CA
stevenaia Michinaga: brb
stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, I didn;t miss much
Susi Alcott: wcb steve
Solobill Laville: Just waitin' fer you, Steve ;)
Fefonz Quan: wb
genesis Zhangsun: yeah we are sort of in a small talk mood it seems :)
genesis Zhangsun: so did anyone check out the retreat site I found?
stevenaia Michinaga: well feel free to join me tonight for my session :) I just needed a break from work and the rain outside
Fefonz Quan: it looked very nice on the web, GZ
Solobill Laville: I can't make it tonight, unfortunately
stevenaia Michinaga: yes Gen, I know the area, it's a beautiful place in Calif.
Solobill Laville: Yes, great place
genesis Zhangsun: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: and yes, I cannot make it as well
genesis Zhangsun: and $425 pretty reasonable don't you think?
genesis Zhangsun: yes I know sorry to hear that Steve
Fefonz Quan: great, yes
genesis Zhangsun: but I understand your wife is more important
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, and I see air fare keeps falling
genesis Zhangsun: only thing is that Pema is a little worried that five days is not enough
stevenaia Michinaga: hehe, well sometimes :)
genesis Zhangsun: he thinks we will likely only get 2 days of serious practice in
Solobill Laville: I wouldn't be able to give more than 5 days, personally
Fefonz Quan: well, there aer a lots of 9-secs in 5 days :)
Fefonz Quan: are*
Solobill Laville: hehe
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, a day in a day out and 5 days of emersion, plenty of time
Solobill Laville does the math
stevenaia Michinaga: it's not a vacation after all.. remember solo, people have to sleep
genesis Zhangsun: yeah it is definitely an improvement over the 1.5 day fest anyway
Solobill Laville: hmmmm.... ;)
Susi Alcott: sleep ?
Solobill Laville smiles
Susi Alcott: something to eat ?
genesis Zhangsun: and being so away from it all an in such a beautiful environment I think people will feel sufficiently transported from regular life to be able to drop into practice
stevenaia Michinaga: laughs, yes, where the truly creative problems olving gets done
Fefonz Quan: yes, definitely
Fefonz Quan: some old monks would be very amused by the conditions those westreners need for practice :)
Solobill Laville: It may be smart to put out a possible pre-retreat practice suggestion for folks not used to that...
Susi Alcott: somebody called me ?
stevenaia Michinaga: most of my important decision get put off for a day if I can, seems I always ahve a solution or a clearer persopective on the problem after sleep
genesis Zhangsun: good idea SL!
Fael Illyar: Steve, that's true for m too.
genesis Zhangsun: what I am a little worried about it that some people don't get that this will be about practice
genesis Zhangsun: I got the impression that some thought this was more of a spa retreat
stevenaia Michinaga: the initial thoughts on the week seems pretty rigorious
genesis Zhangsun: yes I think so too Steve
Fefonz Quan: and concerning sleep: wasn't there some ideas of getting up very early?
genesis Zhangsun: the original plan looked a little extreme and possibly unreasonable for people who are not used to sitting for so many hours
Fefonz Quan: yes, a little Be-pashyana like
genesis Zhangsun: :)
Fefonz Quan: ((guenka wise)
stevenaia Michinaga: less Play perhaps
stevenaia Michinaga: but do thay have WiFI?
genesis Zhangsun: if I know this group though if we swing more towards the Being, the Play side will probably well balanced.
genesis Zhangsun: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: i forgot to to look
Solobill Laville: I thought Pema's initial email was very description and clear about the activities
genesis Zhangsun: Steve this is not about WIFI!!! ;)
stevenaia Michinaga: <grins>
Solobill Laville: spa, finger sandwiches, etc
genesis Zhangsun: yes gourmet food, nice beds etcx
Solobill Laville: Right!
genesis Zhangsun: no there isn't any of that
genesis Zhangsun: organic vegetarian is pretty good though right?
Solobill Laville: yes :)
Fefonz Quan: finger sandwiches - only when you upt one hand on top of the other and fold :)
Fefonz Quan: put*
genesis Zhangsun: yes a lot of lotus foot sandwiches too :)
genesis Zhangsun: sorry bad joke
Solobill Laville: :)
Fefonz Quan: (like the joke with the oil...)
genesis Zhangsun: oil?
Fefonz Quan: if olive oil is made of olives, and coconut oil from coconut, (shuld i procced?)
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
genesis Zhangsun: :)
genesis Zhangsun: still don't really get it (but trying hard to pretend so others don't notice)
Fefonz Quan: the what's baby oil made of?
Solobill Laville: convincing, Gen
genesis Zhangsun: baby!!!
Solobill Laville: hehe
genesis Zhangsun: Whew
Susi Alcott: :))
Solobill Laville: You have passed the PaB Bar, congratulations, Gen :)
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
genesis Zhangsun: AHH thanks...at least one bar under my belt
genesis Zhangsun: does that mean I get to practice in the land of PaB?
Solobill Laville: Is that where the law people put it?
Solobill Laville: and yes
Fefonz Quan: sound like a song
genesis Zhangsun: it does doesn't FQ!
genesis Zhangsun: *it
Fefonz Quan: "in the land of PaB, where we proctice you and me"
Susi Alcott: man was hit by a car and was taken to the hospital; the docter who recieved him said; "Omg my son" but the doctor was not that man's father. How is this possible ?
Fefonz Quan: i know so i wont tell
Solobill Laville: Mother
Solobill Laville: (sorry)
Susi Alcott: smiles
Fefonz Quan: "we just sit, and watc at Being, till we hear the 9-sec ding"
genesis Zhangsun: "Where we practice seeing being, and find that being really sees me"
Fefonz Quan: watch*
genesis Zhangsun: continuing the song...
Fefonz Quan: :)
genesis Zhangsun: its sort of corny folk...
genesis Zhangsun: do you get that vibe?
Solobill Laville: Marlo Thomas-ey...
Fefonz Quan: "we all live on the land of PaB, the land of PaB, the land of PPaB"
genesis Zhangsun: someone has to bring a guitar to the retreat
Solobill Laville: (very American that reference...sorry again, floks)
genesis Zhangsun: don't worry SL we all have wikipedia :)
Solobill Laville is trying to get used to being called SL.. :)
Susi Alcott: and/or the violin
Fefonz Quan: i guess you're not calles like that in RL ;0
genesis Zhangsun: a little confusing your SL
genesis Zhangsun: *yours
genesis Zhangsun: Sounds like Second Life
Solobill Laville: uh huh :)
Solobill Laville: Well, Gen, back to the retreat topic
Fefonz Quan: i can bring a guitar, though the one i have here needs amlification...
Solobill Laville: I am about 90% now on attending
Solobill Laville: It's lookin' good
Solobill Laville: But I need to start walking in June to get there on time
genesis Zhangsun: I could bring one by FQ you have to play it ok?
genesis Zhangsun: So are you doing a walking meditation as your pre retreat practice?
Fefonz Quan: sure, though american folk song are not my seciality...
Fefonz Quan: speciality*
genesis Zhangsun: thank go
genesis Zhangsun: &god
genesis Zhangsun: *god
Solobill Laville: Not a big Dylan fan, Gen? ;)
Fefonz Quan: folk-rock is something else :)
genesis Zhangsun: Ok yeah hes alright :)
genesis Zhangsun: yes FQ
Fefonz Quan: anytime you print it, i say the latters, and it sounds, well, a little....
genesis Zhangsun: hehe
Solobill Laville: (Like FU?)
genesis Zhangsun: SL whats up with your walking meditation?
Fefonz Quan: yep :)
Solobill Laville: Just a bad joke, I guess... ;)
Fefonz Quan: is gilles giving his talk now?
genesis Zhangsun: keeping the theme going :)
Solobill Laville: ahhh
Solobill Laville: the bad joke theme?
Fefonz Quan: well, that is going well :)
Solobill Laville: It is 2:00 PM SLT....
Solobill Laville: >Fefonz
genesis Zhangsun: it is...
Pema Pera is Online
genesis Zhangsun: oh yes!
genesis Zhangsun: there is Gilles's seminar
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