2009.01.07 13:00 - Cold Air and Warm Hearts

The Guardian for this session was Genesis Zhangsun, the comments below are hers.

I arrived to meet Claire and Tarmel....

genesis Zhangsun: Hey Tarmel
genesis Zhangsun: Hey Claire
Claire Beltran: Hi...
Tarmel Udimo: hey there gen & claire
Claire Beltran: How are you both?
genesis Zhangsun: okay freezing cold and you?
Tarmel Udimo: gen do you anwer emails by logging onto the wiki or do you do your own inbox
genesis Zhangsun: own inbox
genesis Zhangsun: why is that?
Tarmel Udimo: mine either bounce back or I end up sending x2 emails even when its only has x1 address
genesis Zhangsun: you mean on the wiki?
Tarmel Udimo: when the email then comes back to me as well since I am part of the group
genesis Zhangsun: so emails you are sending out to the group on the wiki are coming back to you
genesis Zhangsun: ?
Tarmel Udimo: leave it with me and i'll try to sort it out....
genesis Zhangsun: ?
genesis Zhangsun: I am confused are you talking about my emails Tarmel or yours
genesis Zhangsun: emails you are sending to me?
Tarmel Udimo: sorry sending work emails at the moment
genesis Zhangsun: oh okay
genesis Zhangsun: hows it going with you Claire?
genesis Zhangsun: Claire?
Tarmel Udimo: hi I'm back...
genesis Zhangsun: seems Claire is not there
Tarmel Udimo: no might have slow connection?

Claire shares with us...

Claire Beltran: I'm here... I'm sorry. I'm not in a good state right now.
Tarmel Udimo: so what's data visualization gen?
genesis Zhangsun: why is that?
genesis Zhangsun: to Claire
genesis Zhangsun: (Data visualization is a way to present information in a visual manner
genesis Zhangsun: anything more specific Tarmel?
Claire Beltran: It's for a couple of reasons... but partly because I'm just generally miserable these days.
Claire Beltran: I'm trying to get committed to a hospital for a while.
genesis Zhangsun: sorry to hear that Claire
Tarmel Udimo: is that the only option you see claire?
Claire Beltran: It sounds like a very good one. I'm in a lot of pain at the moment.
Claire Beltran: I'm staying in contact with someone there... as soon as there's an available bed, I'm checking myself in and having my parents bring me what I need after the fact.
Claire Beltran: I'm scared... but I think it should be done.
genesis Zhangsun: does it feel good in any case that you are doing something about this?
Claire Beltran: I'm not sure. Part of me is convinced that nothing good can come of *any* action, so... it's hard.
genesis Zhangsun: chin up :) I am giving you a big hug virtuall right now :)
genesis Zhangsun: don't mean to make light
genesis Zhangsun: but really we are here for you now
Tarmel Udimo: will this be the first time you have made a descion to take this action?
Claire Beltran: Yes.
Claire Beltran: So I relly don
Claire Beltran: Really don't know what will happen... what I'll be allowed to bring in, whether or not the staff will listen to me, how long I'll be kept, what I'll do to keep from going mad from boredom, whether I'll learn things about myself that I can't accept...
Claire Beltran: You know?
Tarmel Udimo: yes but this sounds like a very positive step
Tarmel Udimo: taking action is a very important thing to do
Wol Euler: happy new year everyone
Tarmel Udimo: happy new year
Tarmel Udimo: been dancing have we?
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: actually yes, the feathers move very nicely :)
Wol Euler gives Claire's hand a squeeze. How are you?
Tarmel Udimo: is there a good dancing place you like?
Wol Euler: several, depending on the mood = music.
Claire Beltran: Thank you, Wol.
Claire Beltran: I've just been airing a very... sensitive subject.
Wol Euler: (sorry, don't let me interrupt the PaBbing, we can dance later :)
genesis Zhangsun: Hey Wol!
genesis Zhangsun: You gained a few pounds over the holidays I see
Wol Euler: Claire, I seem to have fallen into a conersation. If you'd be more comfortable without me, I won't be offended.
Wol Euler: and yes, Gen, I did. A slight overindulgende, or maybe overreaction
Tarmel Udimo: overreactiom?
Claire Beltran: Oh, it's fine, Wol... ^^;
Tarmel Udimo: I think Claire you were actually making a joke?
Tarmel Udimo: :-)
Tarmel Udimo: but just in case not - this taking of action sounds very good to me
Tarmel Udimo: :-)
Claire Beltran: No... no joke.
Claire Beltran: Why would you think that?
Tarmel Udimo: I meant your response to Wol...
genesis Zhangsun: yes not the part about going to the hospital
Tarmel Udimo: sometimes we say things in a back handed way
Wol Euler: bonjour soleil
Tarmel Udimo: wol and i sepak to each other like that so sorry my misunderstanding
Soleil8 Andel: salut a tous
genesis Zhangsun: Hey Soleil
Soleil8's translator: salvation to all
Tarmel Udimo: hello soleil
genesis Zhangsun: greetings to you soileil
Soleil8 Andel: super
Soleil8's translator: great
Soleil8 Andel: je montrais a une amie
Soleil8's translator: I showed a friend
Soleil8 Andel: je reviendrais
Soleil8's translator: I reviendrais
Soleil8 Andel: bonne rencontre
Soleil8's translator: good meeting
Tarmel Udimo: gone
genesis Zhangsun: so Claire are you doing any meditative practice during this difficult time?
genesis Zhangsun: Claire?
genesis Zhangsun: you there girl?
Tarmel Udimo: how was your trip to the great white north wol?
Wol Euler: cold :)
Wol Euler: loved it.
Wol Euler: walking in the woods at -31°C
genesis Zhangsun: wow!
genesis Zhangsun: that is like northern Sweden
genesis Zhangsun: I guess the same latitude?
Tarmel Udimo: coooooooooold
genesis Zhangsun: funny how your face feels like its sort of burning off for awhile in that kind of cold
Wol Euler: about that, yes.
Tarmel Udimo: there a certain beauty to it all though
Tarmel Udimo: so your family's place is close to woods?
Wol Euler: some scrub trees, a little patch of woods on ground not good enough to farm
Tarmel Udimo: any pics?
Tarmel Udimo: smiles
Wol Euler: alas, no. I was too busy eating and drinking and talking
Tarmel Udimo: catching up with old freinds and family - good for us
Tarmel Udimo: grounds us in a strange kind of way
Wol Euler nods.
Tarmel Udimo: claire are you back with us now?
genesis Zhangsun: Claire?
Claire Beltran: I'm here.
Claire Beltran: What is it?
genesis Zhangsun: we want to talk with you!
Claire Beltran: Oaky, what about?
genesis Zhangsun: we are concerned :)
Wol Euler: well, about you.
Wol Euler: dammit, claire, we are your friends. we care.
Claire Beltran nods.
Claire Beltran: It may be hard for me to communicate, or even understand for myself... but I value my happiness little. Mostly all that matters is that I remain functional for others' sake.
Claire Beltran: Though... I wish I could just cast off al the pain and apathy.
Wol Euler nods
Tarmel Udimo: nods
Tarmel Udimo: and you think going to hospital will help that
genesis Zhangsun: I am sorry but I have to go to teh Kira Cafe for a talk
genesis Zhangsun: I will be holding you in my heart Claire
Wol Euler: bye gen, take care.
genesis Zhangsun: bye Wol