2009.01.28 07:00 - About God, Nature, Being.

The Guardian for this meeting was Antonia Braveheart. The comments are by Antonia Braveheart.

Antonia Braveheart: its my first time i come here as a guardian
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Antonia Braveheart smiles
Antonia Braveheart: what does it mean that gesture?
Susi Alcott: ah
Susi Alcott: = join hands together the buddhist way
Antonia Braveheart: oh, that's nice.
Antonia Braveheart: where are you from, if i may ask?
Susi Alcott: it means many 'yes' things, but also it's that when ever we do so, we give our x-tra energy out from our fingers for anybody to use
Antonia Braveheart: interesting, never heard about that
Susi Alcott: your free to ask, but I prefer leave my RL I not to be know
Susi Alcott: known
Antonia Braveheart nods
Susi Alcott: well; now you did :)
Antonia Braveheart: it's ok, dont worry :)
Antonia Braveheart: i respect this chice.
Susi Alcott: to any other question I am very willing the best answer I can
Antonia Braveheart: choice :)
Susi Alcott: I'm also willing to tell about my experiences, what ever
Susi Alcott: like to listen too
Antonia Braveheart: yes, thanks. It's my first time here, so yes, just tell me a bit about it
Susi Alcott: about what 'it' ?
Antonia Braveheart: your sensations, feeling , experiences when you are here, what do you generally talk about...
Susi Alcott: pls think me like I was a pc; need clear question :))))
Antonia Braveheart apologizes for her english.
Susi Alcott: I have no general topic
Susi Alcott: same here :)
Susi Alcott: my feelings and motions are usually this; everything goes around, but inside there is the peace
Antonia Braveheart: i know you dont use a general topic : last tiem we talked about " Love for God"
Susi Alcott: but almost anything can activate me
Antonia Braveheart: :)
Susi Alcott: hm
Susi Alcott: God does not need anybody's love...god is for example love
Susi Alcott: imo
Susi Alcott: sure
Antonia Braveheart smiles
Susi Alcott: even I'm in buddhism, for certain reason---comes from my 'past---I know good sentencies of few books
Susi Alcott: in bible there is the best sentence I know
Susi Alcott: "God is everywhere"
Antonia Braveheart: true
Susi Alcott: sadly it's not so well understood sentence
Susi Alcott: that some people even call an other person to be the devil :)
Antonia Braveheart: yes, i talked about my doubts last time i came here
Susi Alcott: aha
Antonia Braveheart: but its nothing related to devils or such
Antonia Braveheart waves at Corvuscorva
Susi Alcott: sad that my memory is gray what comes to that
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins. Hi all.
Susi Alcott: Hi Cor
Susi Alcott: but would you mind to repeat your telling about your doubts ?
Antonia Braveheart: well, my doubts were about the existence of God.
Susi Alcott: aha
Susi Alcott: ...and ?
Susi Alcott: ...not good to create questions...
Antonia Braveheart: sometimes i believe, sometimes i think like marx said : religion is opium for the mass (people)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: it isn't, Susi?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: What Do you believe Antonia?
Susi Alcott: to me all of the religions are part of the truth
Susi Alcott: most of them are some persons try to explane 'god'
Corvuscorva Nightfire: or rather what do YOU believe, Antonia?
Antonia Braveheart: I dont know, im supposed to believe in the christian God
Susi Alcott: so; to me; the best sentence about god is in the bible
Corvuscorva Nightfire: why? Antonia?
Susi Alcott: ah; but how is it; as the bible sais that god is everywhere
Susi Alcott: yet; it speaks much about the 'father ---god---in heavens'
Susi Alcott: so; which is the truth ...
Susi Alcott: that god is everywhere, or that he is a one being in heavens ?
Susi Alcott: both cannot be true
Antonia Braveheart listens carefully
Corvuscorva Nightfire: if there is a god...like in the bible..how could either of those things be anything but metaphor, Susi?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: in which case both could be "true" in a storytelling way?
Susi Alcott: to be everywhere is possible
Susi Alcott: well; the sentence does not say that god is all; it says that god is everywhere
Susi Alcott: there's the difference
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods...I see...so even more literally it could be true.
Susi Alcott: 'everywhere' is no one direction or location
Susi Alcott: to me god is true
Corvuscorva Nightfire: to me..it's a hypothesis too big for me to grasp.
Antonia Braveheart: uhm.....but we have no certainties
Susi Alcott: but maybe I would prefere replace the word to be 'nature'
Antonia Braveheart: so god=nature?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi Bill.
Susi Alcott: HI Bill
Antonia Braveheart: Hello Bill
Antonia Braveheart: :)
Solobill Laville: Hey, folks :)
Susi Alcott: that would've been my sentence to bible if I could've chooce *
Susi Alcott: HI Solo
Susi Alcott: it's also good to remember that people have written the bible
Fefonz Quan: hi all, sorry for the delay,
Antonia Braveheart ponders. That sounds plausible, Susi. It could mean a lot
Antonia Braveheart: hello Fefonz ^^
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I'll send you two the chat log so far.
Susi Alcott: it can mean also that 'god is everyhere'
Solobill Laville: Hi, Fefonz (just got your note so I logged in, and now will quietly excuse myself)
Susi Alcott: Hi Fefonz
Susi Alcott: from somewhere else I have read this good sentence;
Fefonz Quan: had troubles teleporting here, it's weird
Antonia Braveheart: please tell susi
Susi Alcott: "Who can see god's face everywhere, can see god"
Susi Alcott: SL lag
Solobill Laville: I have a some time :)
Susi Alcott: I'de also say that when ever one is strongly within Love, one is able to see god everywhere
Susi Alcott: including oneself
Antonia Braveheart: so, if we say that god is nature, and we actually are surrounded by nature and its laws, we are then surrounded by god. right?
Susi Alcott: including even Bush
Antonia Braveheart giggles
Susi Alcott: arnt' we also natural beings ?
Antonia Braveheart: of course we are
Susi Alcott: so why would we be only surrounded by god ?
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Antonia Braveheart smiles. " God is inside of us."
Antonia Braveheart: right?
Susi Alcott: you all give me so much love that I need to join my hands many times that I can write too
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Solobill Laville: :)
Antonia Braveheart smiles warmly.
Solobill Laville: (too early for floating above my cushion ;))
Antonia Braveheart: (giggles)
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins at Bill..well...
Antonia Braveheart ponders.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I sort of like the PaB way of looking at all this.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: where God or not God doesn't matter.
Fefonz Quan nods
Corvuscorva Nightfire: where I can just look without labelling.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: or trying to decide...just trying to understand.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: to see clearly.
Antonia Braveheart smiles
Corvuscorva Nightfire: or at least a little more clearly.
Susi Alcott: try to lay my hands back on the letters of the keyboard the moment I read some question to myself
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Solobill Laville: For some, depending on what they bring to the table, perhaps
Solobill Laville: the idea of "God" being within is a sort of initial step
Solobill Laville: Towards not seeing a "God is not me" perspective
Corvuscorva Nightfire wraps her brain around this and nods.
Solobill Laville: In other words
Solobill Laville: Especially in the Christian West
Solobill Laville: There is the idea of God as the supernatural entity - "Old man in the Chair"
Solobill Laville: Very separate, very not intimate
Solobill Laville: To that perspective the idea of God within is somewhat earth shaking
Fefonz Quan: yes, for me this idea which is the natural meaning of the word god, is an obstacle, so i avoid it totally when practicing
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods..I guess, that's true for me, too, Fefonz.
Fefonz Quan: it has to much load on it, to much pre-concepts
Fefonz Quan: too much **
Corvuscorva Nightfire: It requires unloading to make it work or me.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: way too much.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: it's easier for me to let go of the metaphors and start fresh.
Fefonz Quan: exactly. especially metaphor that are so compex in themselve
Fefonz Quan: s
Susi Alcott: >cor your sentece gave me one idea
Susi Alcott: in case people here would like to hear one story from my RL how one person started fresh ?
Antonia Braveheart: sorry, i crahsed
Solobill Laville: wb Antonia
Susi Alcott: wcb
Antonia Braveheart: thanks very much
Fefonz Quan: wcb
Corvuscorva Nightfire: would like that, Susi..thanks..wb Antonia
Antonia Braveheart: can smeone resume what i missed?
Fefonz Quan: sure, susi
Susi Alcott: there was one very adult men in Egypt, with whom we spoke about god; he is muslmin
Susi Alcott: muslim
Susi Alcott: I 'thought' aloud this way;
Susi Alcott: 'Because that is, that the creating force in free nature is female, wouldn't that proove that god is goddess ?"
Moon Fargis: greetings :)
Antonia Braveheart: Hello moon :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi Moon.
Solobill Laville: Hello, Moon :)
Susi Alcott: Immediately this mand stood up laughing loud and releasing laugh; delight
Susi Alcott: hi Fael , Moon
Susi Alcott: like he'd got rid of life time's stone on his heart :)*
Moon Fargis: fael ? where?
Susi Alcott: end of the story
Solobill Laville: To Muslims, is Allah generally considered male?
Susi Alcott: Quran gives 99 names to Allah
Solobill Laville: OK, but male?
Susi Alcott: basicly it tries many ways to tell the same that the sentence in bible and what is the first buddhist teaching to me
Antonia Braveheart: Hello Draco :)
Solobill Laville: Hi Draco
Susi Alcott: I dont know that Quran would say anywhere if Allah is male or female
Susi Alcott: but I believe that this man has had the thought in his spirit that god is female
Draco Caerndow: Greetings all.
Susi Alcott: and my words released that thought to rise up
Solobill Laville: I think, to Fefonz's point earlier, there is still a certain amount of baggage
Susi Alcott: HI Draco
Susi Alcott: thought that the idea that god could be female, would 'crash' to fresh like it happened to this man
Solobill Laville: with the the concept, of God, or Allah, or Nature in many ways, gender included :)
Solobill Laville: Hence, perhaps, Pema's use of the word "Being" ;)
Antonia Braveheart smiles
Susi Alcott: to me 'god' is female based on that thought that creative energy is female
Fefonz Quan: that gender thing seems really like projecting our narrow human perception upon the univers
Fefonz Quan: e
Solobill Laville smiles appreciatively at Draco's creative tag
Moon Fargis: imo god is a visualisation of all fears and problems and their solve in one person to humans, reflecting their with to live in peace without fears
Moon Fargis: wish
Antonia Braveheart: that's what Marx says :P
Moon Fargis: oh really?
Antonia Braveheart: more or less i mean
Fefonz Quan: agreewith Moon
Solobill Laville: Moon the Marxist Zennie
Antonia Braveheart: as i said before
Moon Fargis: HAHA
Solobill Laville: :)
Antonia Braveheart: lolz
Moon Fargis: (east german guy:)
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Antonia Braveheart: as i said before , Marx thought : " Religion is opium for the mass"
Solobill Laville: Yes, Marx thought is would be you guys first, got that one wrong... :)
Fefonz Quan: well, it doesn't say anything he said is wrong :)
Antonia Braveheart: he meant that
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Draco..we post what is said here to a public wiki, I'll send you a notecard with the address, do you mind if we include your words?
Susi Alcott: maybe Marx was smart guy :)
Draco Caerndow: Go right ahead.
Antonia Braveheart giggles
Solobill Laville: Marx was decidely a smart guy ;)
Moon Fargis: yes he saw all the problems of kapitalism before they arrised
Solobill Laville: Just had his country picked incorrectly...
Antonia Braveheart: hahaha
Fefonz Quan: (off-topic - who claimed the recording?)
Susi Alcott: may I now ask > Antonia; have you got more doubts or have you got rid of some, for the words You've read here today ?
Antonia Braveheart: I still have some little doubts, but the idea of God-Nature has made it possible to me to get rid of some doubts.
Antonia Braveheart: as well.
Antonia Braveheart smiles
Susi Alcott: what about this; have you got some more peace that it does not so much matter if you have doubts ?
Fefonz Quan: thanks to good old spinoza
Antonia Braveheart: mmm yes
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Solobill Laville was a big Spinoza fan in College
Antonia Braveheart: really Solobill?
Fefonz Quan: yeah, me too
Fefonz Quan: Fanteism, Solo?
Fefonz Quan: :)
Solobill Laville: Yup, quite a while ago now though...try not to get caught up in too much thinking :)
Draco Caerndow: Also, you must all excuse my silence, because I am still getting warmed up to the group.
Solobill Laville: Don't recall Fanteism...
Fefonz Quan: (that was a word play of fan and panteism)
Antonia Braveheart: could you enlighten my mind with that please?
Susi Alcott: _/!\_> Draco
Antonia Braveheart giggles
Solobill Laville: ahhh
Solobill Laville: :)
Antonia Braveheart: i found it weird
Solobill Laville: hehe
Antonia Braveheart: "fanteism"
Antonia Braveheart: i didnt get it
Antonia Braveheart: :P
Solobill Laville: Honestly, I've forgotten it, but remember liking it
Draco Caerndow: .. What is our purpose here?
Fefonz Quan: (Solo, that reminds me of a joke of an old lady, )
Moon Fargis: ohhhhhh
Moon Fargis: i forgot
Solobill Laville: Draco > "here' or "Here"?
Moon Fargis: i wanted to create a pab swatch
Draco Caerndow: Yes, why do we exist?
Susi Alcott: maybe for fun _/!+_
Fefonz Quan: Draco, some of us start that question dropping the why in the eginning :)
Fefonz Quan: Funteism :)
Antonia Braveheart: Pantheism is a metaphysical and religious position. Broadly defined it is the view that (1) "God is everything and everything is God … the world is either identical with God or in some way a self-expression of his nature" (
Draco Caerndow: Well, think about it. Out of all of the inifinite possibilities, for some reason, the existence we know is a human one, on this planet.
Solobill Laville: It is a primary question we feel inclined to ask
Draco Caerndow: Why not a fish, or a plant, or anything else -why- are we human, and more importantly, what is our purpose as human beings; why exist?
Susi Alcott: because we chooced so
Fefonz Quan: just luck, we could be fish, couldn't we?
Susi Alcott: only in case you would've chooce that
Solobill Laville: Well, one thing that we can do in a practical sense
Solobill Laville: Is to expand the notion of what we are
Susi Alcott: because you are human, I take that to be the proove of your choice
Fefonz Quan: yes, what over why, i like that
Draco Caerndow: Ah, but we can only do that with the gift of sentience; that cannot be our purpose, for as if was said before, if it was only luck..
Susi Alcott: was you ?
Susi Alcott: asking only because I do not so much like 'if's' like an answer
Susi Alcott: sure you dont' need to answer :)))))
Draco Caerndow: I didn't quite understand the 'was you' bit
Fefonz Quan nods :)
Susi Alcott: was you lucky ?
Draco Caerndow laughs
Fefonz Quan: guess he could be a dracon given the choise :)
Solobill Laville: Different world views have different takes on the "whys" of being human
Solobill Laville: I think, though, the Big answers, aren't found externally, at least not yet
Solobill Laville: Stripping away at what you think you are, yields better results :)
Susi Alcott: I think that the answer is already before birth; in one's spirit
Susi Alcott: therefore it is also to be found
Fefonz Quan: that's a nice assumption, how can we explore it?
Draco Caerndow: What is 'the spirit' then, can it be defined, Susi?
Antonia Braveheart listens carefully.
Susi Alcott: spirit is the 'part' of our existence that is the eternall lif
Susi Alcott: life
Susi Alcott: in case one's spirit is such my called god-spirit; independed spirit with own will
Susi Alcott: spirit do not ever forget anything it's seen/experienced
Susi Alcott: that is the treasure of human mind to have the skill to forget
Solobill Laville: Susi, for clarity, which part is independent with own will?
Susi Alcott: the spirit with own will is independed 'god-spirit' which never dies
Solobill Laville: ok, thanks :)
Susi Alcott: but human being can be also 'a drop' of bigger spirit
Susi Alcott: in that case it's different
Solobill Laville: do you feel there is a difference between "can also be" as in the the future, versus "is", which is NOW?
Solobill Laville: In terms of your "drop" comment...
Fefonz Quan: (i like to start with ''drop" but as a verb...)
Solobill Laville: Yes, like Being, it is a bit both verb and noun ;)
Susi Alcott: such 'drop' can get growth to turn to be such -god-spirit- so the future can be different in case you mean that
Solobill Laville: Yes, just exploring your view on the relative versus the absolute :)
Susi Alcott: ah
Antonia Braveheart: (brb)
Susi Alcott: dont know any absolute
Solobill Laville nods
Susi Alcott: know 'can be's' :)
Solobill Laville: I was going to add, and maybe you don't! :))
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Antonia Braveheart: back
Susi Alcott: wcb
Corvuscorva Nightfire: wb
Antonia Braveheart: tnx
Fefonz Quan: wow, moon ! nice wheel
Moon Fargis: ^^ thanks :)
Fefonz Quan: (is it free wheel?)
Corvuscorva Nightfire snickers.
Moon Fargis: nope and also not selled so far:)
Solobill Laville: color change I see :)
Antonia Braveheart smiles
Antonia Braveheart: why you have that wheel ?
Moon Fargis: well it represents the buddhist teaching and the 8 fold path so its well placed back there:)
Antonia Braveheart: that's nice
Antonia Braveheart: id like to learn more about buddhism some time
Solobill Laville: Plenty of opportunities in SL for that! :)
Antonia Braveheart: good.
Fefonz Quan: yeah, i was thinking the dharma wheel seeing it
Antonia Braveheart: Well, i think our session is over, anyway. Any questions?
Draco Caerndow: Over already?
Moon Fargis: hi star!
Stargate Tone: Hi all
Fefonz Quan: looks like its just starting
Antonia Braveheart: unless we want to continue :)
Solobill Laville: Hi, Star, and I must bid you all adieu for now... :)
Antonia Braveheart: hello star
Fefonz Quan: Hey Starg
Susi Alcott: the session is over whan all have gone
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Bye, Bill..thanks
Fefonz Quan: Bye Solo :)
Solobill Laville: :)
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Antonia Braveheart: thanks Susi, *keeps that in mind*
Susi Alcott: hi star
Antonia Braveheart: Bye solo
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi Star.
Draco Caerndow: Hey Star
Draco Caerndow: Is discussing politics or current events allowed?
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes, Draco
Corvuscorva Nightfire: though...we do it more often than we like, sometimes.
Draco Caerndow: What does everyone think of what's happening in Central Asia?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Religion, politics, sports..nothing is off topic.
Draco Caerndow: Israel and Palestine seem to be on the brink of full scale war
Draco Caerndow: China is unhappy about US selling arms to Taiwan, and then there's a rebellion going on in Sri Lanka, also - I believe.
Draco Caerndow: As well as the US dealing with Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan
Susi Alcott: and they with US
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods....
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I might be the only US citizen here...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: unless Antonia is?
Draco Caerndow raises hand. I am.
Antonia Braveheart: hehe
Antonia Braveheart: i am italian
Fefonz Quan: SL citizen all :)
Stargate Tone: finish :)****
Stargate Tone: meaning ; from finland :)*
Corvuscorva Nightfire high fives brother Draco Malkin.
Antonia Braveheart smiles
Fefonz Quan: ah, now it makes sense :)
Stargate Tone: lol
Antonia Braveheart: i was surprised for your answer indeed...finish what?
Antonia Braveheart: lolz
Draco Caerndow: Tensions are high in the world it seems, just one push and a new world war might begin..
Stargate Tone: our nation is finish; land is Finland
Antonia Braveheart: finnish*
Stargate Tone: we also write the 'name' of the nation with small leter
Corvuscorva Nightfire: You're nervous about it?
Stargate Tone: we use the both ways; with one or tow 'n'
Antonia Braveheart: ok, back to the topic.
Antonia Braveheart: :)
Stargate Tone: nervous about what ?
Antonia Braveheart: (thanks for the info Star :))
Fefonz Quan: So Draco, things are bad, but what's the question?
Draco Caerndow: Who's to blame for it?
Stargate Tone: (your welcome Antonia)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: blame?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: hmm
Susi Alcott: human life
Fefonz Quan: human suffering
Fefonz Quan: and if we find who's blame, will it solve the problem?
Stargate Tone: not only few things for which it's reason to try to forgive the whole life
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods to Fefonz
Draco Caerndow: How can we help make the world a better place?
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Stargate Tone: nobody can do but one's best
Antonia Braveheart: It's actually hard to make the worls a good place, Draco.
Stargate Tone: life has always been, is and shall be chaos
Stargate Tone: it's possible only to try to create 'own' peace
Fefonz Quan: maybe i should start small - make our home better, neighbourhood better, then for the world
Fefonz Quan: (ourselves should be first...)
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Fefonz Quan: first, we take manhatten :)
Antonia Braveheart: i think that you make good for yourself when you start to make good things to others.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: /em starts singing with Fefonz
Draco Caerndow: But if everyone lives for themselves.. who will live for others? It is very easy to achieve and then forget what purpose you had in achieving..
Fefonz Quan: then . . . .
Draco Caerndow: A young orphan rises to power, and has it corrupt him... (Vladimir Putin)
Fefonz Quan: i didn't mean living for ourselves
Fefonz Quan: changing our neighbourhood means our friends, neighbour, the people we ineract with
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but if that orpahn had a supportive community and found the tools to ....I dion't know..sort of "be"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: then...if power had fallen in his lap...the world would be changed.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: each of us has power..
Fefonz Quan nods
Corvuscorva Nightfire: some kind...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: each of us changes the pattern of the world.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: maybe in ways we don't know.
Antonia Braveheart nods
Susi Alcott: also they who want's to keep things as they are, have power
Moon Fargis: okay my friends who wants to have the first version of the play as being watch ?
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Fefonz Quan rasing hand :)
Susi Alcott: I may be quick sometimes too :)
Antonia Braveheart: id like to
Stargate Tone: me too **********
Stargate Tone: ah
Stargate Tone: sry
Corvuscorva Nightfire: me...
Stargate Tone: oh how nice :)*****
Moon Fargis: you might have to correct the band
Antonia Braveheart: uhm what should i do with this now?
Moon Fargis: to fir it to your arm
Stargate Tone: Thank You Moon :)****
Antonia Braveheart: ok
Moon Fargis: it will ring every 15 minutes antonia
Fefonz Quan: yeah, ladies first :)
Antonia Braveheart: yes
Moon Fargis: please when you modifyd the watch to fit your arm send me one copy back
Antonia Braveheart: okay
Antonia Braveheart: but mine is no trans
Moon Fargis: as i will give you a transferable version now
Antonia Braveheart: O.o
Antonia Braveheart: okay
Draco Caerndow: Thanks Moon, but I'm not a watch person ;)
Moon Fargis: okkay:)
Susi Alcott: ty Moon
Fefonz Quan: i thought long ago that the pab wiki should have such feature (or does it?)
Moon Fargis: hmm no idea:)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I think Fa
Corvuscorva Nightfire: has something on the wiki somewhere.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: for pc's.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I wish thre wre a rl watch that buzzed each 15 minutes...if told to.
Draco Caerndow: What happens every fifteen minutes?
Moon Fargis: turn up your sound and wait :)
Fefonz Quan: the world blink, and we blink back :)
Draco Caerndow waits for a fireworks display
Corvuscorva Nightfire: at the times when we're practicing..we stop and "drop what we are"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: to see what "is"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: as best we can.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: different people do it different ways.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I stop "sometimes during the day"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: when I think about it.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: others do it every 15 minutes for several hours a day.
Moon Fargis: gonnnnnnnngg
Corvuscorva Nightfire giggles at Moon.
Fefonz Quan: yesterday i saw in a new-age site a description of practice that sounded familial to it but with a buzzzz
Fefonz Quan: familiar*
Antonia Braveheart: hehe
Susi Alcott: hi tsuki
tsukino Udimo: ^^
Stargate Tone: Hello tsuki
tsukino Udimo: greetings
Antonia Braveheart: Hello tsukino :)
Fefonz Quan: generally it went - "take a few seonds, and watch the bzzzzz of life - surrounding you, in you, in the body"
Draco Caerndow: Let me see if I understand this correctly, for nine seconds of every fifteen minutes, we completely forget who we are and just 'be'?
tsukino Udimo: hehe the error girl is back ^^
Antonia Braveheart: its ok.:)
Corvuscorva Nightfire waves off Tsuki's fluff and giggles.
Antonia Braveheart: and yes Draco.
Antonia Braveheart: :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I find it easier than meditating, Draco..and since I'm lazy...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I keep trying it.
Draco Caerndow: It's hard. And, I don't often seem to get much done while just 'being' but it does leave you with a sense of serene calm.
Fefonz Quan: calm is a good start i sould say
Fefonz Quan: would*
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods...I always like doing it if I'm in conversation...still listening..but dropping..
Corvuscorva Nightfire: it sort of allows more to happen.
Fefonz Quan: p.s. - i clicked on the fountain for the menu - what should i do without interupting it? cancel? ignore?
Draco Caerndow nods. I'm probably going to go now, eat lunch and all that, noon here. Farewell everyone.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: cancel
tsukino Udimo: uhm
tsukino Udimo: hmm
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods to Draco Malkin.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I hope you enjoy lunch..and that you return.
Fefonz Quan: By Draco
Fefonz Quan: bye...
Moon Fargis: bonnnnng
Moon Fargis: *giggles*
Corvuscorva Nightfire gets up and stretches..time for me to go!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye all.
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Fefonz Quan: Bye Corvi :)
Fefonz Quan: namaste
Antonia Braveheart: Ok, guys, it's time for me to leave, i have to attend RL matters as well
Susi Alcott: pls feel free
Antonia Braveheart: Fefonz, would you mind to send me whats more said?
Fefonz Quan: sure, though i'll be onmy way soon. you should claim the recording though
Antonia Braveheart: okay
Antonia Braveheart: bye everyone then.
Fefonz Quan: do you know the procedure with calining it?
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Antonia Braveheart: uhm...not really :P
Fefonz Quan: you left-click on the middle of the fountain
Susi Alcott: wait a sec
Antonia Braveheart: ?
Susi Alcott: I'm asking from Fael in case she's got time to drop by
Susi Alcott: she's the creator of this system
Susi Alcott: and we just had the topic with Pema
Fefonz Quan: put your cursor below the "recording" sign
Susi Alcott: that the recording shoudn't be stopped before all has left
Susi Alcott: as the meetings are always with the open end
Antonia Braveheart: i clicked
Fefonz Quan: i guess, Susi, if she will claim, she will have the recordings till now, and then the ones remaining can reactivate it for the rest of the session
Antonia Braveheart: but itss still recording
Susi Alcott: just a sec; Fael is coming
Fefonz Quan: did you get the menu and clicked "claim" ?
Antonia Braveheart: no
Susi Alcott: she knows all of this system; she created it
Antonia Braveheart: even if i left clicked
Fefonz Quan: good, lets wait for Fael, he is the gudjet master :)
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Antonia Braveheart: okay :)
Fael Illyar: Hello everyone :)
Susi Alcott: Hello Fael
Antonia Braveheart: hello Fael :)
Fefonz Quan: Fael, Thou had been called to help a new Guardian :)
Fael Illyar: Actually, it's mostly Wol's creation ... if you talk of the autologger.
Moon Fargis: hi fael
Antonia Braveheart: giggles
Fael Illyar: but I have a part in it :)
Susi Alcott: sry
Susi Alcott: I have missunderstood something then
Fael Illyar: and the idea came from me originally :)
Fael Illyar: So, what's the trouble?
Susi Alcott: and I was present with Pema when Fael improved it; got my view that way
Antonia Braveheart: when i left click it the menu doesnt appear to me
Fael Illyar: did you make sure you click the lighter part and not the darker pipe that's the fountain?
Antonia Braveheart: uhm
Susi Alcott: lol
Antonia Braveheart: lolz
Susi Alcott: nothing such happened that cannot be fixed
Antonia Braveheart: i tried to click again O.o
Fefonz Quan: well, it appears for me when i click the pyramid
Fael Illyar: me too... I guess Antonia still needs to be added to the notecard
Fael Illyar: although, wearing the group tag should help with that.
Antonia Braveheart: it just gives me a notecard about autologging
Fael Illyar: unfortunately, only Wol can change the notecard for the moment.
Fefonz Quan: Antoniya, should i take that record, being it was my shift till today?
Fefonz Quan: (i can send you the link to it, antoniya, anyhow)
Antonia Braveheart: yes
Susi Alcott: that O.o is bad in case the boss of the nuclear power plant sais it
Antonia Braveheart: thanks
Fael Illyar: interesting, it no longer uses the group tag for identifying guardians.
Antonia Braveheart: uhm
Fefonz Quan: Fael, will that work for us, or do you need to twick with it some more?
Fael Illyar: any fix to it will cancel the recording.
Fael Illyar: so... kind of has to go through someone for whom it works now.
Fefonz Quan: so should we claim it before fixing it?
Fael Illyar: yes
Antonia Braveheart: i think its better
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Fefonz Quan: should i be honored ? :)
Fael Illyar: Go ahead :)
Antonia Braveheart: hehe
Susi Alcott: Mastered system _/!\_
Fefonz Quan: claimed, but still recording, i guess it's send me the link after all are gone
Fael Illyar: yes, or if you force it to stop
Moon Fargis: fael
Fefonz Quan: willl try
Moon Fargis: i will need your help in about a hour