2011.03.04 19:00 - Humble chores

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Sylectra Darwin. The comments are by Sylectra Darwin.

     
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Sylectra
    Sylectra Darwin: Hi oOOOo!
    Sylectra Darwin: I love your name by the way.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Good evening folks
    oO0Oo Resident: ty, I like yours too!
    Sylectra Darwin: Greetings, Rosecrucian, how are you?
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Rose
    Sylectra Darwin: Rosecrucian, have you been here before?
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I have but it has been a while. I come and go and am not sure just where I fit at times.
    Sylectra Darwin: grin - welcome
    Sylectra Darwin: you are OK with us recording this session to post on our wiki?
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I ahve no probllems with recording. I say what I say and that is it.
    Sylectra Darwin: An excellent way to approach the world!
    Rosecrucian Roeth: It is very easey here in SL, but not necissarily hte same way in the RW.
    Sylectra Darwin: Good point, and especially here at Play as Being we try to accept people as they wish to be, not as we wish them to be.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I must admit that the older one gets, the easier it is to say what you feel and not be as bothered with the consequences :>)
    Sylectra Darwin: Isn't that liberating? I am 39 and feel more empowered to speak my mind than in the past, especially at work.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I wish I were 39 again adn felt that way. I am 61 and have just, in the past couple of years discovered that I do have control over my life and what I do with it, and yet at your age you perhaps have that already.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: My avitar is built to portray how I feel not how I am .
    Sylectra Darwin: That's actually an interesting idea - do we really feel we have complete control over our lives and what we do with it? Or is there some illusion in this feeling of control?
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I do not believe that there is any illusion other that the one we may create for ourselves, and that is more a result of or life experience than of what we should be.
    Sylectra Darwin: When we look around us with certain expectations colored by our experience, we see the world one way, but if we had additional experience we might see the world differently?
    Rosecrucian Roeth: What I am trying to say is that we create our life based on our life experience and not on what others outside our lives may think it should be.
    Sylectra Darwin: nods
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Does that maek sense? Or am I being rather indistinct.
     
    --BELL--
     
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I should come here more often as I find the conversations are rather stimulating adn I do not get that anywhere else.
    oO0Oo Resident: nice to be with you
    Sylectra Darwin: I have the same experience when I am here.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Your comment about if we had additional experience we might see th world a different way is very incisive, and very true, as what we experience is our life and no matter what it is it will affect us for the rest of our lives.
    Sylectra Darwin: I have an example from a sad time in my life.
    oO0Oo Resident listens
    Sylectra Darwin: When I found out my mom had cancer and it had spread quite a bit before they found it, she had her first surgery and I was there to help her afterwards.
    Sylectra Darwin: The experience was my first of being with a person and not being able to help them at all.
    Sylectra Darwin: My feeling of disappointment, sadness and frustration was so overwhelming that I created a lot of trauma for myself that night as I lay awake worrying.
    Sylectra Darwin: Yes, it was serious and would eventually kill her, but I had a choice as to how to respond emotionally to what was happening.
    Sylectra Darwin: I chose to feel intensely sad and upset. Even today, remembering that moment, I can say it was the saddest moment in the whole experience.
    Sylectra Darwin: There were much sadder moments to come, but I was learning how to be with them and not let them destroy me.
    Sylectra Darwin: Hello, Alfred!
    Sylectra Darwin: Care to join our discussion?
    Alfred Kelberry: meep!
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hey Boxy!
    Alfred Kelberry: i think i only know sam :)
    Alfred Kelberry: cause it's not my usual hour
    Sylectra Darwin: Welcome. :)
    Sylectra Darwin: Can I assume you are okay with us recording this session?
    Alfred Kelberry: anyhow, nice to meet new pablings :)
    Sylectra Darwin: Nice to meet you too!
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Ho Boxy, adn Sylectra I know what you mean, it is a time that measn many things and will stay with us forever.
    Alfred Kelberry: actually, no, but i comply to the rule :)
    Alfred Kelberry: otherwise i can't talk
    Sylectra Darwin: LOL - if you wish, I can delete you from the log. You only need ask.
    Alfred Kelberry: nah, it's fine. i'm all over the logs anyway :)
    Alfred Kelberry: what's the topic?
    Sylectra Darwin: Very good. We were just discussing how we create our lives and how we experience our lives depending on our own personal experiences.
    Alfred Kelberry: oh...
    Sylectra Darwin: Rosecrucian said, "What I am trying to say is that we create our life based on our life experience and not on what others outside our lives may think it should be."
    Alfred Kelberry: *ponders*
    oO0Oo Resident: reminds me of a lojong slogan
    Alfred Kelberry: rose, so few can do that
    Sylectra Darwin: My take on it is that I can sometimes make an experience unnecessarily traumatic or unpleasant by the way I get carried away with my emotions.
    Sylectra Darwin: lojong slogan?
    Alfred Kelberry: as we live in a society we're expected to behave a certain way
    Sylectra Darwin: nods
     
    --BELL--
     
    Rosecrucian Roeth: That is true, Boxy, but as life goes on , we realize that many things are not as they seem, nor should we be as submissive as we are at a younger age.
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Rosecrucian Roeth: \That did not come out exactly as I wanted it to.
    Alfred Kelberry: take an average teen. he's hardly submissive :)
    Sylectra Darwin laughs
    Sylectra Darwin: I live with four teens.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: No, but having 2 in my household, teens are not exactly up to scratch in teh ways of the world, although they think they are:>)
    Alfred Kelberry: i think we comply even more and become slaves to the societal norms as we grow older
    Sylectra Darwin: Talk about bending like a willow - you cannot come up directly against them.
    Sylectra Darwin: (teens that is)
    Sylectra Darwin: Alfred, can you say more about becoming slaves to norms as we grow older?
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Boxy, are you a teen ?? and did you just admit that you do not continue your non complicity??
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Methinks we are awaiting with baited breath, boxy's response.
    Alfred Kelberry: it is during youth we dream big and want to change the world. as we grow, we become more aware of the rules that the world is played by and then we don't even notice how we live our lives in a nicely prepared setting for us.
    Alfred Kelberry: i like this qoute: he did it because he was too young to know that it's impossible
    Sylectra Darwin: Maybe that is similar to what I think of as "letting my world get smaller" or "making my world bigger"
    Sylectra Darwin: nice :)
    Sylectra Darwin: Hello Lucinda!
    Alfred Kelberry: luci! :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Sylectra:)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hey Luci
    oO0Oo Resident: The lojong slogan that came to mind, here interpreted here by Ani Pema Chodron: "Of the two witnesses, hold the principal one" is saying that one witness is everybody else giving you their feedback and opinions (which is worth listening to, there's some truth in what people say) but the principal witness is yourself. You're the only one who knows when you're using things to protect yourself and keep your ego together and when you're opening and letting things fall apart, letting the world come as it is - working with it rather than struggling against it. You're the only one who knows. [ Lojong ] "is mind training, a practice in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition based on a set of aphorisms formulated in Tibet in the 12th century by Geshe Chekhawa. The practice involves refining and purifying one's motivations and attitudes. The fifty-nine or so proverbs that form the root text of the mind training practice are designed as a set of antidotes to undesired mental habits that cause suffering. http://is.gd/DJQJ57
    Lucinda Lavender: Boxy...Samuo...
    Alfred Kelberry: nice skirt, luci :)
    Alfred Kelberry: dreamy :)
    Lucinda Lavender: thank you...
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi also Rosecrucian:)
    Sylectra Darwin: No problem, Boxy :)
    Alfred Kelberry: as for the external influence. it is big. either we notice it or not.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: You make a good point, but having gone through the whole youth and then young adult thing and then mature adult thing, I find I am now more into changing the world because I see more about it that I do not like than I did when I was young. I like the quote, but teh reality is that it si the more mature that make the changes as they see the way to get itdone and not just to go headstrong into the maelstrom.Hi Lucinda.
    Sylectra Darwin: I think there are two ways to go along with the wishes or actions of others - one is to accept what we cannot change and work with the flow; the other is to feel that this is our rule structure and that we are not allowed to go beyond it, or to fear going beyond it.
    Alfred Kelberry: as we grow and learn new things and people that shape our identity, we have to be consistent in our interaction with the external world. otherwise, you'll be seen as an unstable person.
    Alfred Kelberry: rose, yes, experience is a big factor, no doubt
    oO0Oo Resident: no way to be consistent, and view of instability is subjective and prone to predjudices of all kinds
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Boxy, your comment about "you will be seen as an unstable person" is true to a certain extent, but I think as life goes on it is less than it once was. I find now that people are moresusceptible to new ideas and new things than ever before and the norm is not what it once was.
     
    --BELL--
     
    Alfred Kelberry: sam, it is on an individual level, but groups form their own norms
    Alfred Kelberry: say, here at pab you're expected to be open and non-judgmental
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Samao not sure exactly about your post but being prone to prejudice is a human fraility which may disappear eventually,but not in our lifetime.
    Alfred Kelberry: rose, i agree
    Rosecrucian Roeth: If you don't want to answer that's OK, but how old are you Boxy? (I'm like the cat...curiosity gets me:>))
    Alfred Kelberry: it's difficult to just drop all the judgment. yet you can be open and tolerant.
    Alfred Kelberry: rose, not in my teens :)
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, i've seen someone just passed by
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Neither am I !
    Alfred Kelberry: i think it's stev
    Alfred Kelberry: stev! :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ouch, you lag, stev :)
    Alfred Kelberry: good to see you :)
    Sylectra Darwin: ...and approaching!
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, yes
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Hello Stevenaia.
    Sylectra Darwin: Hi Stevie :)
    Lucinda Lavender: hi steve:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi everyone
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Stevenaia, ntsy :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: sorry I'm late, long day
    Alfred Kelberry: *misses beautiful stev's dress*
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: it's around somewhere
    Alfred Kelberry: in your purse :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: will find it for next time
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: merci :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Sylectra Darwin: We were just having a very stimulating chat.
    stevenaia Michinaga: sorry to interrupt, pls continue
    Sylectra Darwin: About how we create our world and the extent to which we let others define it for us, and how age may be a factor in that.
    Sylectra Darwin: Did I get that more or less right, friends?
    oO0Oo Resident: yes Syl
    Lucinda Lavender: sounds right on...
    Rosecrucian Roeth: You put that age thing in for me, right :>)
    stevenaia Michinaga: A subject close to my heart
    Sylectra Darwin: Rose, no! We were discussing teens and their desire to charge into the world and fix things.
    stevenaia Michinaga: Sylectra, also a good listener
    Sylectra Darwin: smiles
    Alfred Kelberry: it's not very fair to discuss teens without them being present :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, stev, you'll represent teens :)
    Lucinda Lavender: headstrong in to the maelstrom...was mentioned an interesting image
    stevenaia Michinaga: some of us have never left their teens
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Sylectra Darwin: But since you bring it up, - good point, Alfred - Rose, how does your age impact your view of the world and what you can do within it?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes steve:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I think it;s nice... at a certain age, to stop "questing" and let the quest come to you
    Sylectra Darwin: a very nice image, Steve.
    oO0Oo Resident: brb
    Alfred Kelberry: stev, conformity? :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, definds by surroundings rather then defining them
    Rosecrucian Roeth: We do create our own worlds and we do populate them with those we want , but when we are younger we do not see the world, whether it is our own or others, as it really is, we see it more as we want it to be. I may be old, but I do remember how I looked at the world when I was in my teens and in my twenties. I still feel as if I am twenty, but the physical reality hits me where it hurts.
    Alfred Kelberry: stev, well, it's basically that :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmm :(
    Alfred Kelberry: why the sad face? :)
    Sylectra Darwin: I see your point, Rose. :)
    Alfred Kelberry: it's just a different perspective :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I nver viewed it as conformity
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, boxy, that is how I view it, a different perspective, exactly
    Sylectra Darwin: Steve, when I think about the conversations we have had involving your view of the world, I remember what you said once about washing dishes.
    oO0Oo Resident: back
    stevenaia Michinaga: pls remind me
    Sylectra Darwin: I will paraphrase it rather badly here, but you said that even washing dishes can feel very zen and relaxing if your mind is in the right space.
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
    Sylectra Darwin: When you first shared that view with me, I was mad at you.
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Sylectra Darwin: I thought that everyone should be struggling, fighting with the world as the antagonist.
    Alfred Kelberry: stev, actually, i practice it sometimes :)
    Sylectra Darwin: It didn't seem right that you almost never got frustrated with your job like the rest of us.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: There are many ways to view the world and teh way I viewed it whan I was in my teens was as a teenager in rural Nova Scotia, Canada, which is much different than as a teenager in rual New York, or urban New York or any big city. That has affected my view of the world now and also my experiences of the world soince have also affected my view.
     
    --BELL--
     
    Alfred Kelberry: i see a pile of dishes and it's discouraging and somewhat stressful. then i think of water, how it streams, about the dishes that'd like to be clean and just start washing... in peace :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: in time you can think of everything you do like that sylectra
    stevenaia Michinaga: the joys of age
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Syl, if everyone struggled with the world nothing would get done, what is needed is some to struggle with the world adn some to hel p th eworld and then maybe it willcome out right:>)
    Sylectra Darwin: In my personal experience I find that the layering of experiences can enrich my perspective but it can also have the impact of creating scars that make some activities more painful each time I am reminded of them.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Boxy, I see dishes adn I think if I don't do them no one will, so I do them and then it is OK>
    Alfred Kelberry: that's a valid point too, rose :)
    Rosecrucian Roeth: It all depends upon your point of view!
    Alfred Kelberry: it sure does
    Sylectra Darwin: My zen activity is weeding the garden. I can pour my good intentions into the fresh green seedlings and the squirmy worms and carefully sort out the weeds from the plants.
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: eeek, 148 sessions with dishes mentioned
    Lucinda Lavender: ll likes hearing of the dishwashing and the weeding...has spent a lot of time on the phone today so I feel quiet...
    Sylectra Darwin: Wow, Steve, that's a lot of dishes.
    Lucinda Lavender: :)))
    Rosecrucian Roeth: If you wish to make the washing of dishes a life experience, more power to you, and if you want to make it a drudging experience, that's OK too, but which is the better experience?
    Sylectra Darwin: Did anyone here read Eat, Pray, Love? I love the part about her doing her humble chores in the ashram.
    Lucinda Lavender: yes I read that book...
    stevenaia Michinaga: a choice of pain vs pleasure, you learn from both
    Lucinda Lavender: enjoyed it too
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Sevenaia, do you p[refer not to do dishes?
    Sylectra Darwin: She sweeps the floor a lot, as I recall.
    stevenaia Michinaga: if there are there, I will do them
    Alfred Kelberry: i also like to just start doing it (some daunting task at first glance). the minute you're in it, it doesn't feel as bad, and in a few more minutes you think: ha, not a big deal :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes boxy:)
    Lucinda Lavender: likes to make the pile disappear...
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Actually, Boxy7, the reality is that once it is done it is VERY POSITIVE!! No matter how dreary the task.
    stevenaia Michinaga: not dissappear, just rearranged
    Rosecrucian Roeth: The problem lies in teh starting or the deplorabel task.
    Lucinda Lavender: well I am fooling myself I suppose:)
    Sylectra Darwin: It's a good feeling to clean the whole kitchen before starting on a complicated recipe. Makes my head feel clear enough to get started.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: All tasks are despicable until done.
    Alfred Kelberry: there's a rl example of fixing about 500 bugs in 2 days. when you first hear it, it's like: what?!! are you serious?! not going to happen!! but then you open the first bug, fix it in a few minutes, then the second one... in a while it turns out that a lot of them are duplicates, many take only a minute to fix, so... in no time it's done! :)
    Lucinda Lavender: me too...sometimes used to set up a whole work station to do study work...so easily distracted...but things left out...like to make it beautiful as well...
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I do love to maek a fine dinner and as I do, I clean up on the way, spouse cooks adn leaves a mess .... deplorable.\
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: perception of time passing...strenuous to begin but flows right along...
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I know that feeling Boxy, it is so simple to catch things as the arrive rather than wait for them to accumulate.
    oO0Oo Resident: Doing dishes for me is a human activity that is cyclic, and necessary throughout ones life, and very, very solvable, and therefore grounding, and a way also to feel my different responses to it over time, which in itself I feel is beneficial.
    Lucinda Lavender: feeling it has been a long day...will leave you all...have a lovely evening:)
    Sylectra Darwin: solvable - I like that!
    Sylectra Darwin: nite Lucinda!
    Alfred Kelberry: rest well, luci :)
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks:)
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Night Lucinda
    oO0Oo Resident: night Lici :)
    oO0Oo Resident: ntsy
    stevenaia Michinaga: night lucinda
     
    Alfred decided to show us a fun dance. : )
     
    Alfred Kelberry: wakaon
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: wakaoff
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe boxy
    Sylectra Darwin: Wow, Alfred, that's a cute dance
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, guess they don't do the waka at this hour :)
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Coulda fooled me:>)
    Alfred Kelberry: it's one of the oni's alternative :)
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Maybe I'll try it one of these days.
    Alfred Kelberry: onikogo... i can never remember the name :/
    Sylectra Darwin: I remember that one...Pema did that to us the first time I visited PaB! Funny.
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: onigokko
     
    --BELL--
     
    Alfred Kelberry: wee!!! :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: stop
    stevenaia Michinaga: stop
    Sylectra Darwin: So cute!
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ommmm...
    stevenaia Michinaga: wakka wakka is much more mellow
     
    Nap as Being?
     
    Alfred Kelberry: i woke up pema once with the waka dance :)
    Sylectra Darwin: woke him up?
    Alfred Kelberry: one morning session :)
    Alfred Kelberry: guess he was dozing :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: asleep at the computer?
    Sylectra Darwin: hehe
    Sylectra Darwin: hmmm, I know a certain other PaBer that sometimes dozes off at the computer.
    Alfred Kelberry: you?! :)
    Alfred Kelberry: actually, when i think of dozing at a pc, i imagine neo :)
    Sylectra Darwin: hehe, it happens sometimes :)
    Alfred Kelberry: knock-knock, white rabbit, etc
    Alfred Kelberry: gah, it was so long ago :/
    Alfred Kelberry: syl, i think pab is a good place for a nap :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, sometimes it's perfect
    stevenaia Michinaga: so relaxing here sometimes
    Sylectra Darwin: nap, meditation, two sides of the same coin!
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: I must make my way dear people... very nice to meet you Rosecrucian. Nice chatting Selectra, boxy, Stevenaia... be well, be with your best wisdom
    stevenaia Michinaga: thx sam, night
    Alfred Kelberry: bye sam :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :))
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Good evening Samuo.
    Sylectra Darwin: night!
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I do not come here often but on an iregular basis and I find those who ar ehere chagne, it seems everytime I come here. I thought I came here rather sort of, maybe, possible semi-frequently, but maybe not?
    stevenaia Michinaga: the same but different
    Alfred Kelberry: syl, i remember i was surprised to learn that our thumbs during zazen are guards of those two sides :)
    Sylectra Darwin: smiles
    Alfred Kelberry: rose, i kind of remember you :)
    Rosecrucian Roeth: stevenaia, the perfect answer, adn of corse the right one:>)
    Alfred Kelberry: and i wish you'd come more often
    Sylectra Darwin: agrees
    stevenaia Michinaga: have you ever read the logs from different times, Rose?
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Yes Boxy I have been here upon occasion not really as often as I would like.
    Alfred Kelberry: stev changes her dresses, but stays the same smart and beautiful woman :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: actually I don;t change my clothes as often you might think
    Sylectra Darwin: LOL!
    stevenaia Michinaga: but appriciate your observations
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, not as woly, she's the champion :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, here's another dance...
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, went shopping with her and paradise, she knows what she wants
    Alfred Kelberry: i usualy do it with yaku
     
    Changing the world in small ways that are big...
     
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I have not ead the logs, and I am in a position in which I wish I had the time to read them, and read books, and catch up on a lot of things, but with 2 boys in college and bills, I do have to pay the bills adn I do work from home and .........................................t with
    Alfred Kelberry: aflac
     
    --BELL--
     
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Stev, as Bosyt said, I concur!
    Alfred Kelberry: rose, that's a rather stressful picture you presented :)
    Alfred Kelberry: i guess you don't have much time for "changing the world" these days? :)
    Alfred Kelberry: but your kids might :)
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Wasn't meant to be, I would not change it for the world, 2 boys, 1 20 and weanting to be a Policeman and the other about to go to cvollege in teColorado as a soccer player and with phys ed as ahis major. It is not cheap adn it is not easy but it is what it is adn I would not trade it for the world.
    Alfred Kelberry: that's a beautiful picture now :)
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I will do what I can to change the worlds but maybe it is my influence on them that may make more change in teh world?
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm
    Alfred Kelberry: i believe so
    Sylectra Darwin: We act in many ways, directly and indirectly. We can't predict what will have the most impact.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I do find that now it is so much easier to contact the whole world than ever before and it is happening in North Africa now and the world will never be the same.
    Sylectra Darwin: nods - each moment is unique
    Rosecrucian Roeth: When I say it is my influence on my sons that will change the world, I refer to the small things, such as being polite to people, being receptive to others and their beliefs, being understanding of those who may not think exactly as you do. If I ahve done nothing else, I woudld hope that I ahve instilled in them a realizatrion that people are people and althoug different than us they deserve everythign that we do.
    Sylectra Darwin: that's lovely!
    stevenaia Michinaga: I remember when my son was very small and we were waitng in line for the bolloon sculpturess to make a hat or a sword for him, when it was his turn, and he rceived the ballooon he said thank you... the sculptress looked stunned and said that was the first theank you she had gotten and made my son another bolloon
    Alfred Kelberry: rose, sounds like my dad :)
    Alfred Kelberry: wow, stev
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm... rather shocking
    stevenaia Michinaga: so few show their appriciation
    stevenaia Michinaga: it takes so lille yet means so much
    stevenaia Michinaga: little
    Alfred Kelberry: yes! very much so
    Sylectra Darwin: your boy is a charmer :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, he does tend to charm his way to places
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Probably am the same age, boxy. Stecenaia I know that feeling, I have had people coming to me saying they were impressed with the manners of my sons, and it is a very nice feeling. "Not that they may be the same way at home" but it is in thepublic eye that mattes:>)
     
    --BELL--
     
    stevenaia Michinaga: so true Rose
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'ev had his GF's parents threaten to adopt him because he was so helpful (to them, the parents)
    Sylectra Darwin: Well, it's getting late for me. I'd better be getting to bed.
    Rosecrucian Roeth: I am now a ta point where I can sort of sit back and relax a bit, knowing that they are in good hands (their own) and all I ahv et odo is look after th e6 mnth old German Sheppaard that they wanted to get and I will have to look after! (BUT HE IS SUCH A CUTIE!)
    Sylectra Darwin: smiles
    Sylectra Darwin: Thanks for the stories!
    Rosecrucian Roeth: G'night Selectra.
    stevenaia Michinaga: brb
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Almost midnight and time to get home before the coach turns into a squash! Godd evening folks, I ahve enjoyed it and hope to be back sooner than later.
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you for sharing, rose
    Alfred Kelberry: it's been nice
    Rosecrucian Roeth: Au revoir, mes amies!
     
    --BELL--
     
    stevenaia Michinaga: oops sorry
    stevenaia Michinaga: son arrived, was distracted
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: no worries
    Alfred Kelberry: i just... afk sort of :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods, ditto
    stevenaia Michinaga: I think the turkish coffee I had after dinner has kicked in
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: i only drink latte
    Alfred Kelberry: sometimes
    Alfred Kelberry: that's all coffee for me :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I usually have one double espresso about 7 am and that's it, unless I go to a syrian restaurant
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: an interesting problem can keep me awake better than any coffee :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, syrian rest, nice :)
    Alfred Kelberry: what do you have there?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, the "all nighter" when you are fully engaged until the problem is complete
    stevenaia Michinaga: the food id like lebanese, toubouli, spinich pie, stuffed grape leaves
    stevenaia Michinaga: humas
    stevenaia Michinaga: and lots of garlic on the chicken
    Alfred Kelberry: sounds tasty :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, it's like that :)
    Alfred Kelberry: garlic is a great addition
     
    --BELL--
     
    Alfred Kelberry: meep!
    Alfred Kelberry: wakaon
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm
    Alfred Kelberry: wakaon
    Alfred Kelberry: time for my honey cake
    Alfred Kelberry: and tea
    stevenaia Michinaga: yumm
    Alfred Kelberry: wakaoff
    Alfred Kelberry: sun's gift :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: do you ahve a copy of that w/ instructions
    Alfred Kelberry: it's no copy
    stevenaia Michinaga: will talk to sun, I love my digeridoo
    Alfred Kelberry: she bought one kind heart :)
    Alfred Kelberry: as far as i know you just click it and iterate throug hthe sounds
    Alfred Kelberry: 3 of them
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: neat
     
    --BELL--
     
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Boxy, enjoy your snack
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