2011.03.06 19:00 - Some of Our Favorite Things

The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

Archmage Atlantis: Hello Calvino
Archmage Atlantis: Pardon me, still baking
Calvino Rabeni: Good evening, Archmage :)
Archmage Atlantis: May I ask you a thought, Cal?
Calvino Rabeni: Yes?
Archmage Atlantis: What is the meaning of life?
Calvino Rabeni: hmmm ...
Calvino Rabeni is thinking
Archmage Atlantis: hears
Archmage Atlantis: Tis your session to claim, Cal
Calvino Rabeni: Yes! That's life!
Archmage Atlantis: Hello, Paradise
Paradise Tennant: smiles ..hello cal .. arch :) gtsy you two :)
Archmage Atlantis: I was just being bitchy with Cal
--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: listens :)
Archmage Atlantis: Well, I asked Cal the meaning of life
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone :)
Calvino Rabeni: Good evening SSL :)
Paradise Tennant: hiya sophia ..gtsy :)
Archmage Atlantis: That is sorta chy
SophiaSharon Larnia: gtsy 2 :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: listens with great interest :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles and the meaning of life is ???
Calvino Rabeni: Just sitting there in a pool waiting to be claimed
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Samuo
oO0Oo Resident sorry I'm late hello everyone :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Calvino Rabeni: Hi Sam
Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya O :) we are diving for the meaning of life :))
oO0Oo Resident: Ok ty
Archmage Atlantis: To me, it is when someone asks me where the symble of man on earth holding heaven originates
Paradise Tennant: to give appreciation .. for this complex web of beauty :) would be my bet :)
Calvino Rabeni: I like that symbol ... I'm considering either contemplating it or googling it :)
Paradise Tennant: or tapestry of .. wonder ..
Archmage Atlantis: A bettter way would be to say, for me, when reason is tempered by belief, ......and when belief is tempered by reason.
Calvino Rabeni: mmmm, I like those friendly classic meanings of Reason and Belief
SophiaSharon Larnia: brb
Archmage Atlantis: Pardon me.....I need to change into comforable prims
oO0Oo Resident: meaning in, or of life: I iknow it when I feel it, but can't describe it
Archmage Atlantis: To me, knowing I can describe it does not mean I feel it
SophiaSharon Larnia: back, the question is so big, and too many thoughts to verbalize, had to get a glass of water :)
oO0Oo Resident: hehe me too brb
Calvino Rabeni takes a sip of green tea
SophiaSharon Larnia: the idea of chatting here what eons of humans have pondered, hmm, easier for me to narrow it down a bit <3
Archmage Atlantis: Pls do SS
Paradise Tennant: hmmm... can define meaning in many ways ..how it relates .. how it is important .. what it does .. think maybe the best is how it translates .. how does life translate - we are each a little language lab :)))
SophiaSharon Larnia: first thought of categories, evolutionary need to procreate to sustain life
SophiaSharon Larnia: spiritual being at the end of the catorgory spectrum
SophiaSharon Larnia: or at least, the end, here
--BELL--

Paradise Tennant: smiles at lucinda .. and stev .. quietly :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Luci, hi Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: wwaves
Lucinda Lavender: HI Sophia Sharon, Arch, Calvino, Stevenai, Paradise:)
Paradise Tennant: we are exploring the meaning of life :) :) :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
Archmage Atlantis: _/\_
Lucinda Lavender: and Samuo:)
stevenaia Michinaga: meaning? to whom?
SophiaSharon Larnia: ah
Paradise Tennant: good question :)
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
SophiaSharon Larnia: surely not little ol me
oO0Oo Resident: back Hi Luci
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Calvino Rabeni:

Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
These are a few of my favorite things

Cream colored ponies and crisp apple streudels
Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few of my favorite things

Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes
Silver white winters that melt into springs
These are a few of my favorite things

SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Paradise Tennant: huge smile here :)))
Archmage Atlantis: In the best fairnes, I questioned Cal
Lucinda Lavender: beauty
SophiaSharon Larnia: i want to say without proof, to experience
Calvino Rabeni: I was thinking,  if I made a "meaning of life" list ... and was rather thorough about it .. for a very long time .. probably I'd forget and leave something off the list
SophiaSharon Larnia: is that like a bucket list cal?
Paradise Tennant: hiya lila :)
Lucinda Lavender: HI Lila:)
Paradise Tennant: lila this is play as being :)
Lila Utu: hi everyone ???
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi lila
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Rhiannon, hi Lila
Archmage Atlantis: Reading the im log this week was inspiring and difficult this am
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Lila
Lucinda Lavender: HI Rhiannon
Paradise Tennant: if you click on the little box if will give you a notecard with the info for this group :)
oO0Oo Resident: Rhi! long time. ntsy!
Calvino Rabeni: Hi, Lila .. there's an information box behind us about the group here
Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Lucinda; thanks for noticing me
Calvino Rabeni: The conversations are recorded
Paradise Tennant: hiya rhi gtsy :))
Calvino Rabeni: Are you comfortable with that, Lila?
Lila Utu: yes
Lucinda Lavender: was not looking that direction:)
Calvino Rabeni: You can find our conversations on the wiki
Rhiannon Dragoone: hiya, Paradise.
Calvino Rabeni: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/
Rhiannon Dragoone: Lucinda, well, at least you said hi. :)
stevenaia Michinaga: waves to Rhi
Paradise Tennant: we have been talking of the meaning of life ..kind of a big topic :))
Calvino Rabeni regards Rhiannon -
Calvino Rabeni: waves across the pool
Rhiannon Dragoone waves at Cal
Rhiannon Dragoone waves at steve
Calvino Rabeni: It's funny, someone could say the word meaning in that context, without it being plural
Lila Utu: Rhi - is that invitation for this group?
Rhiannon Dragoone: The meaning of life is connected with how we live it; it's not like the meaning of a phrase or concept; it's more connected with the purpose of life
Paradise Tennant: what is the purpose of life
Archmage Atlantis: You are saying, Cal, that life has multiple meanings?
stevenaia Michinaga: was to a museum this weekend with thousand of years of statues w/ stories that are still with us, buddist and hindu stories, winders if they know their meaning would have relivance so so many eos into the future
Rhiannon Dragoone: steve, I think they did; they were universalistic in their perspective
Lucinda Lavender: amazing
SophiaSharon Larnia: meaning formed by the creators
Archmage Atlantis: I wonder if our electronic communication will have that
Calvino Rabeni: Multiple meanings... I'd suggest the meaning of life is no simpler than the totality of life itself
stevenaia Michinaga: not if they forget the switch
Rhiannon Dragoone: Meaning in this context means purpose; as in what is the purpose of life.
Rhiannon Dragoone: The toality of loife itself wouldn't be meaningful apart from life's purpose
Calvino Rabeni: It seems to have its own purpose coincident with its existence
Archmage Atlantis: not sure I agree Rhi
Archmage Atlantis: The purpose of life is to continue to life
stevenaia Michinaga: so each of us exist to move things forward one step
Rhiannon Dragoone: What else can it mean, Arch?
SophiaSharon Larnia: move to where
stevenaia Michinaga: ahead :)
Lila Utu: purpose can be to share a legacy
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Rhiannon Dragoone: It could have it's own purpose; i'm not suggesting it has to be assigned by some supernatural agency.
Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps there is something beyond life
Rhiannon Dragoone: Sophia, Cleveland
Lila Utu: leave something that will survive you
SophiaSharon Larnia: ok
stevenaia Michinaga: memories
Paradise Tennant: children - our message to a time we will not see ? ?
Calvino Rabeni: Purpose is to share a legacy ... yes
--BELL--

Archmage Atlantis: Something beyond children, beyond what we can create and see
Rhiannon Dragoone: That would be one purpose--like in Erikson's generative stage of life
Rhiannon Dragoone: Arch, something transcendent, perhaps?
Archmage Atlantis: We would likely see it as transcendent
SophiaSharon Larnia: gtg, have fun everyone :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: tc Sophia
oO0Oo Resident: bye SSL :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: Then it could aim at a supernatural focus, if not be rooted in it
Archmage Atlantis: Yes Rhi,.....but it would still be us
Calvino Rabeni: I suppose we call something transcendent when we have a hard time understanding it
Paradise Tennant: waves at ssl :) nite nite
Lucinda Lavender: But perhaps we can observe them...maybe that is all there is to do..observe them
Lucinda Lavender: by SSL:)
Calvino Rabeni: Observation is a name for a certain type of interaction, is it not?
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Rhiannon Dragoone: gtg Sorry; feels like I just got here
Lucinda Lavender: Luci is just back from yoga where observing was mentioned
Calvino Rabeni: Leaving so soon ?
Archmage Atlantis: in some meanings, yes, Cal
Paradise Tennant: smiles good nite rhia nice to have you join us ..even if briefly:) namaste
Calvino Rabeni: Take care Rhia.. fly well
Rhiannon Dragoone: 'fraid so; Roslayn need mse
Archmage Atlantis: Sheshall, Cal, Sheshall
Rhiannon Dragoone wavesa and poofs
oO0Oo Resident: ntsy Rhi :)
Lucinda Lavender: Rhi...nice to see you...
Paradise Tennant: maybe we are each a little meaning of life .. a kind of subjective translation of energy motion :)
Archmage Atlantis: Parden me....I may need to exit with a flourish....or a dud......we shall see......but I do need to exit
Calvino Rabeni: Cinda, what came up in the Yoga class?
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Arch
Calvino Rabeni: Arch, you're good at that
Calvino Rabeni: Looking poised to fly to heaven
Paradise Tennant: good nite arch sweet dreams ..namaste my friend:)
oO0Oo Resident: tc Arch, ntsy :)
Calvino Rabeni: Take care
Lucinda Lavender: that when images and memories come up they can be oberved:)with the movement of energy this happens I guess
oO0Oo Resident looks heavenward
Lucinda Lavender: happy travels Arch:)
Paradise Tennant: smiles nice wings arch :)))
stevenaia Michinaga: nice exit
Lucinda Lavender: sitting back and observing
Calvino Rabeni: That must help somehow with the meaning of life question, otherwise it would not be recommended so frequently in yoga schools and other places
Lila Utu nods
Calvino Rabeni: but I think there are some extra ingredients that come into play in the yoga schools
Calvino Rabeni: that people don't understand at first
Calvino Rabeni: and maybe at some point there is an "aha" type of thing
Lila Utu: we use mantra in kundalini yoga
Lucinda Lavender: curious about what the other things are...
Lila Utu: it isn't about arriving at a point after X hours of practice
Lila Utu: it is the realization it was already there
Paradise Tennant: yes !
Calvino Rabeni: What in the yoga class seems a little out of the ordinary, Cinda?
Lucinda Lavender: the deep quietness...
Lucinda Lavender: the warm energy moving through the body is what is newly pointed out and most interesting
Lucinda Lavender: like warm water
--BELL--

Calvino Rabeni: It's a practice too .. the instructions give some hints or how-to's, is that true?
Lucinda Lavender: yes...we were given the direction not to focus on the image we have of the pose...
Lucinda Lavender: or what our neighbor is doing
Lucinda Lavender: but to allow winds to move up through ourselves like a hollow bamboo
Calvino Rabeni nods
Calvino Rabeni: poetic
Lucinda Lavender: quiet lovely...
Calvino Rabeni: yes
Paradise Tennant: well opening up to the flow of life .. its joy ... like how digging a tennis ball from under a couch can bring joy to a dog's face :))) a joy that suffuses his whole body in riggling spasms of happy :)))
Calvino Rabeni: being reminded to embody a certain quality
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Lucinda Lavender: :)))joyful ...
Lila Utu: friend asked today why can't we always stay at the high plateau instead of riding waves up and down?
oO0Oo Resident: what do you think Lila?
Lila Utu: if we didn't have the valley we'd get bored by the peaks
Lila Utu: you know how you drive toward the mountains
Paradise Tennant: yes .. too many peaks very very dull :)
Lila Utu: they look so big
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Lila Utu: then once on top it seems different
Paradise Tennant: the valleys are the dramatic bits
Lila Utu: yes!
oO0Oo Resident remembers the feeling of being on a mountaintop
Lila Utu: like we have a packet of anti-matter in our pockets ???
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Lucinda Lavender: The hills are alive...
stevenaia Michinaga: are we breaking into song?
Calvino Rabeni: We did earlier :)
oO0Oo Resident: la lala la
Paradise Tennant: most certainly laughter :))
Lucinda Lavender: what is anti matter tho?
oO0Oo Resident: the songs we have sung.... for a thousand years
Lila Utu: the word "alive" often brings me to "Young Frankenstein" memories
Calvino Rabeni: :)
Lila Utu: a different sort of movie
oO0Oo Resident: hehe
Calvino Rabeni: That echoes the heaven, earth, and man idea from earlier
Lila Utu: indeed - I've wondered - anti-matter
Lila Utu: a question for a physicist
Lucinda Lavender: has a catchy name...
stevenaia Michinaga: matter/antimater, yin/yang
Lila Utu: I don't think those are equivalent
Lila Utu: the yin yang indicate that one is contained in the other
Lila Utu: is that also true of matter/antimatter?
stevenaia Michinaga: no, they are compliments
stevenaia Michinaga: you can;t have one w/o the other
Lila Utu: but with yin yang each carries inside it the dot/seed of the other within itself
Calvino Rabeni: antimatter is matter that is wound in the opposite direction .. if you bring it together with matter, the windings cancel and you have free energy
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Paradise Tennant: :)
Lucinda Lavender: free energy...sounds interesting as well
Paradise Tennant: yes !
Paradise Tennant: unfettered !
Lila Utu: holding the space for that free energy to empower my automobile so I don't have to buy gas
Paradise Tennant: smiles :)))
oO0Oo Resident: lol
--BELL--

Lila Utu: thanks for including me, Paradise, and everyone ???
Lila Utu: must go
Lucinda Lavender: yes...nice to meet you Lila:)
Paradise Tennant: smiles good nite lila always nice to see you :))
Calvino Rabeni: I'd like my neighborhood rearranged so whatever I like is near enough for a me-powered vehicle to reach easily
Lila Utu: you too!
Calvino Rabeni: Yes Lila, thanks for stopping by
oO0Oo Resident: Nice to meet you Lila, tc
Paradise Tennant: sigh I should go too.. or I will start my week squinty eyed :)) thank you all for the company ..the conversation .. the taste of free energy :)))
Paradise Tennant: waves all round .. namaste my friends :))
Calvino Rabeni waves
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Lucinda Lavender: namaste Paradise:)
Lucinda Lavender: Cal I like the idea too...
stevenaia Michinaga: night paradise
Lucinda Lavender: taking the bus involves 2 buses
oO0Oo Resident: all the best para :)
Calvino Rabeni: Or, another alternative is for the things one needs to travel and come to where one is ..
Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
Calvino Rabeni: Which works well in some economies
stevenaia Michinaga: time for me to leave too, thanks for a lovely evening Cal, and luci and 0
Calvino Rabeni: expecially if one has a love for simple traditional things
Lucinda Lavender: night Stevenaia:)
Calvino Rabeni: YW, be well Stevenaia
oO0Oo Resident: goodnight Stevenaia... rest soundly, dream well
Lucinda Lavender: Any dreams of late?
Lucinda Lavender: I am not remembering them...
oO0Oo Resident: to love this planet we live on is to seek a simpler life
Calvino Rabeni: I had too much sleep deficit to easily remember the dreams
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Alfred Kelberry: meep!
Lucinda Lavender: Hi Boxy?
oO0Oo Resident: Hiya boxy :)
Alfred Kelberry: way past the session time :)
Calvino Rabeni: Hello Alfred
oO0Oo Resident: brbr
Alfred Kelberry: eager pabers are still here :)
Calvino Rabeni: I was thinking .. it's not exactly a "simpler life" scenario, but what if we could
Calvino Rabeni: What if we could dis-aggregate the consumer supply chain (sorry for the jargon) such that anyone could operate a mom & pop business and supply goods to ones neighbors
Lucinda Lavender: Luci likes that idea
Lucinda Lavender: we can make bread and eggs
Calvino Rabeni: like Amazon did for small book stores and other businesses, handling the ordering and payments but not the sourcing and delivery
Calvino Rabeni: so I could ask for "full ripe mangos" and someone in my neighborhood would bring them
Lucinda Lavender: that would bee nice

Here's a different take on the same idea .. the "gift economy" that could be enabled by reusing the consumer economy technology:  http://www.justfortheloveofit.org/thedeal#video

Alfred Kelberry: it'll be more expensive
Calvino Rabeni: Yes expenses are relative to a lot of factors
Calvino Rabeni: if you want quantity, drive miles to Costco
Calvino Rabeni: and the unit price is lower
Calvino Rabeni: but not the quality per price
Calvino Rabeni: this is where "simplicity" comes in
Calvino Rabeni: wanting fewer things of higher quality
Calvino Rabeni: life used to be that way
oO0Oo Resident: back
Lucinda Lavender: I am part of a coop for chicken feed
Calvino Rabeni: that's a good example Cinda
Calvino Rabeni: And, once I helped in the delivery :)
Lucinda Lavender: and there were chicks for sale today...and books...
Alfred Kelberry: cal, i agree that we have too much stuff in our homes
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Alfred Kelberry: half of them not being used
Calvino Rabeni: the technical machinery of Amazon e.g. could enable lots of co-op-ing
Lucinda Lavender: true...
oO0Oo Resident: sounds lovely Luci
--BELL--

Lucinda Lavender: I need to go soon...but hope you all have sweet dreams...
Calvino Rabeni: Or some other infrastructure to make the connections
Alfred Kelberry: luci goes to dream :)
Calvino Rabeni: And I, go to seek a full ripe mango
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Lucinda Lavender: nice
Alfred Kelberry: meep!
Calvino Rabeni: which came from some tropical place .. not a case of "eat local" :)
Lucinda Lavender: meep
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Calvino Rabeni: I'd like it if the produce came with its travel stories
Lucinda Lavender: that would be a learning experience then
Calvino Rabeni: I need to depart also
Calvino Rabeni: Good evening everyone
oO0Oo Resident: energy to those departing, free energy to all
Calvino Rabeni: dream of learning journeys
Lucinda Lavender: nice
Calvino Rabeni: Bye :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes
Alfred Kelberry: cal, i actually sometimes imagine how a fruit that i'm about to nibble was gathered
oO0Oo Resident: is that a nibble or a bit Boxy ;)
Alfred Kelberry: then how it was traveled in a box on a ship or plane maybe
oO0Oo Resident: or a byte? lol
Alfred Kelberry: nom nom :P
oO0Oo Resident smiles
oO0Oo Resident: smash dem bugs
Alfred Kelberry: aww, cute bunny :) http://nomnomtruck.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/nom-nom-nom.jpg
Alfred Kelberry: reminds me of gaya :)
oO0Oo Resident: OMG, so cute
oO0Oo Resident: we could talk about emotions
oO0Oo Resident: or, even feel them
Alfred Kelberry: ok... i want honey
oO0Oo Resident: honey was the name of a rabbit that lived with me once. house trained. I loved her.
Alfred Kelberry: cute :)
oO0Oo Resident: and her mate was named moon
oO0Oo Resident: i was sad when they died
Alfred Kelberry: :(
Alfred Kelberry: bunnies don't live long
oO0Oo Resident: fortunately sadness also passes
Alfred Kelberry: otherwise the world would be full of grief
oO0Oo Resident: then we'd all be griefers ;)
Alfred Kelberry: i think we are for some people
Alfred Kelberry: :)
oO0Oo Resident: :)
--BELL--

oO0Oo Resident: ntsy Alred
Alfred Kelberry: night :)
oO0Oo Resident: night
oO0Oo Resident: tc