The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Susan
Eos Amaterasu: Have you been to PaB here before?
Eos Amaterasu: *(Play as Being)
iwandertoo Resident: Yes, thanks.

Eos reads Susan's (iwandertoo's) profile

Eos Amaterasu: "this engine keeping you alive" :-)

iwandertoo Resident: :)
Eos Amaterasu: that could be a great framing for a 90 second suspension....
iwandertoo Resident: how so?
Eos Amaterasu reads from iwantertoo's profile

wondrous....
listen again. listen.
the quiet hum,
this conscious moment,
this engine keeping you alive.

Eos Amaterasu: To me this seems like a wonderful evocation of Play as Being, so to speak

iwandertoo Resident: yes, i see what you mean
iwandertoo Resident: i dont know that i have thought about it in this way
Eos Amaterasu: heh heh, in a way when you say or write something, you let it out ,and then people have their own experiences with it
Eos Amaterasu: anyway, that's how it resonated for me
iwandertoo Resident: thank you for sharing

Eos Amaterasu: Will you attend any of the party?
Eos Amaterasu is studying the intense party schedule
iwandertoo Resident: party?
Eos Amaterasu: this weekend, starting Friday... it's described in the big white schedule
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Eliza
iwandertoo Resident: i dont know
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos, Susan :)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eos Amaterasu: the 3rd birthday of Play as Beiong
Eos Amaterasu: a toddler
Eos Amaterasu: more than that
Eos Amaterasu: a walker
Eos Amaterasu: Play as Child :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: three is old enough to climb up on countertops and plunder cabinets... very busy age...
Eos Amaterasu: playing a lot with things
Eos Amaterasu recalls Heraclitus talking about the Aeon being a child playing with colored balls on the beach

Eos Amaterasu: I had read Susan's profile
Eos Amaterasu: and found it resonating with a 90-sec, perhaps upcoming
Eos Amaterasu:

wondrous.... 
listen again. listen. 
the quiet hum, 
this conscious moment,
this engine keeping you alive.

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: Nice poem!
Eliza Madrigal: what a nice way to enter the pause
iwandertoo Resident: :)

Eos Amaterasu: Eos the tank engine
Eos Amaterasu: (3 years old)
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Eliza Madrigal: I'm half asleep but somehow this is very pleasant
Eos Amaterasu: "this engine keeping you alive"
Eliza Madrigal: the words are blending a bit... quiet hum... the sound/feel of a train running on its tracks
Eos Amaterasu: all the hums and moments and perceptions
iwandertoo Resident: it is inspired by Galt's engine
Eos Amaterasu: ? can u say more?
iwandertoo Resident: not sure it would be welcomed here
iwandertoo Resident: a reference to Atlas Shrugged
Eliza Madrigal: fun to play with things that would seem to have a place, and things that would seem not to...
Eos Amaterasu: so he was working on an engine?
iwandertoo Resident: yes, he created one that represented the best within the human mind...
iwandertoo Resident: much like one's heart
Eos Amaterasu: sounds like what Michelangelo tried to do
iwandertoo Resident: yes
Eos Amaterasu: the drifting in and out of place is like the pistons of the locomotive wheels
Eos Amaterasu: the question is inevitable: how would you represent the best within the human mind?
Eos Amaterasu: hi stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: hi
iwandertoo Resident: depends on the goal
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevenia :)
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eos Amaterasu: we are drifting in and out of being, swaying with it....
Eos Amaterasu: choose your goal, Susan!
Eos Amaterasu thinks of Mozart
iwandertoo Resident: one's happiness
Eliza Madrigal: :)

stevenaia Michinaga: Mozart did not seem to be a happy person
stevenaia Michinaga: what a strange result of that
Eos Amaterasu: infused with sadness
Eos Amaterasu: transparency
Eos Amaterasu: humor
Eos Amaterasu: mercy
Eos Amaterasu: lust
Eos Amaterasu: love
stevenaia Michinaga: yet created such profound beauty
Eliza Madrigal: both raw and refined
Eos Amaterasu: didn't hide the foibles, saw right through them, and that in itself was truth, beauty, complete allowing
Eos Amaterasu: (the operas especially)
stevenaia Michinaga: there seems to be beauty in even the saddist things

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bertrum :)
Bertrum Resident: Hi everyone
stevenaia Michinaga: h Bert
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Bertrum
Eos Amaterasu: "Pain is not a punishment; pleasure is not a reward"
Bertrum Resident: ?
Eos Amaterasu: Ha Ha... sorry, coming from a different context.....
Eos Amaterasu: we were talking about how to express the essence of the human mind
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eos Amaterasu: (something like that)
Eos Amaterasu: (we are nothing if not ambitious :-)
Bertrum Resident: Okay, thanks.
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eos Amaterasu: there's something painful about one's happiness, because it involves everybody else
Eos Amaterasu: as does the pain
Bertrum Resident: Would you explain that?
Eos Amaterasu: if happiness expands you, it then includes other people, who may or may not be happy
Bertrum Resident: Why is happiness and pain dependent on others?
Eos Amaterasu: well, you may not be able to separate yourself from others
Eos Amaterasu: we are awash in each other
Eos Amaterasu: I read the news today oh boy
Bertrum Resident: A day in the life...
Eos Amaterasu: A day in the lifetime...
Bertrum Resident: I suspect it is possible to experience happiness and pain -- alone.
iwandertoo Resident: nods
Eos Amaterasu: the quiet hum, this conscious moment, this engine keeping you alive.
Eliza Madrigal: seems impossible to be alone.. everything we touch is infused with the efforts of others, the thoughts, the dreams...
Eos Amaterasu: the hum is that of codependent origination (Eos' commentary)
iwandertoo Resident: how so?
Eos Amaterasu: all the bits and pieces of the engine are making up you
iwandertoo Resident: singular one
iwandertoo Resident: one's heart
Eos Amaterasu: your skin, your bones, the billions of cells and bacteria in you
Eos Amaterasu: all your thoughts
Bertrum Resident: Ah, one is her/his own universe...

--BELL--

iwandertoo Resident: oneself
Eos Amaterasu: I suppose there is also a pretty profound aloneness
Eliza Madrigal: 'we' as one, alone
Bertrum Resident: The world within...
iwandertoo Resident: what is 'we as one'?
Eliza Madrigal: sleepy musings :)
Eos Amaterasu: being is seeing double :-)
Eliza Madrigal: reflections, yes
Bertrum Resident: duality....
iwandertoo Resident: duality?
Eos Amaterasu: Aristotle said, "the mind is in a certain way 'all things'"
Eos Amaterasu: it is one and it is many
Eos Amaterasu: as pema likes to say, the opposite of a great truth is also a great truth
iwandertoo Resident: i don't believe this is what was meant
Eliza Madrigal listens
Eos Amaterasu: can u say more, Susan?

iwandertoo Resident: "the opposite of a great truth is also a great truth"...how so?
Eos Amaterasu: you could say, we are never alone
Eos Amaterasu: you could say, we are profoundly alone
Eos Amaterasu: I think they are both true
Eos Amaterasu: not in the middle
Eos Amaterasu: but at the ends
iwandertoo Resident: have you an example?

Bertrum Resident: Cut and pasted this definition: Alternatively, dualism can mean the tendency of humans to perceive and understand the world as being divided into two overarching categories. In this sense, it is dualistic when one perceives a tree as a thing separate from everything surrounding it, or when one perceives a "self" that is distinct from the rest of the world. In traditions such as classical Hinduism, Zen Buddhism or Islamic Sufism, a key to enlightenment is "transcending" this sort of dualistic thinking, without merely substituting dualism with monism or pluralism.
Eos Amaterasu: I'm down with that :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
iwandertoo Resident: i'm not...
iwandertoo Resident: lol
iwandertoo Resident: i see why i am so lost
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eliza Madrigal: hehe...
stevenaia Michinaga: I;m with you susan, been scratchiing my head with duality for years
Eos Amaterasu tries to imagine that :-)
stevenaia Michinaga: lol
stevenaia Michinaga: at least until the itch stops
Eos Amaterasu: what is the itch?
stevenaia Michinaga: clearity of understanding duality
Eos Amaterasu: can you suggest a way we could approach that question in the upcoming 90 secs?
stevenaia Michinaga: hmm
stevenaia Michinaga: Play with duality....
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eliza Madrigal will need to leave after the bell. Thanks much Eos, everyone:)

--BELL--

stevenaia Michinaga: night eliza
Bertrum Resident: night Eliza
Eos Amaterasu: night E!
iwandertoo Resident: waves
Eliza Madrigal: Night :)
Eos Amaterasu: I will also need to go....
iwandertoo Resident: thank, best to you
Eos Amaterasu: but thank you Susan, Bertrum, stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: night Susan and eos
stevenaia Michinaga: sweet dreams
Bertrum Resident: Night Susan, Eos
Eos Amaterasu: /||\
stevenaia Michinaga: are you a new Bert avatar, It say you are only 23 days old
Bertrum Resident: New AV and same old AV. That;'s duality!
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: the wonders of SL, what happened to your old one?
Bertrum Resident: Left SL entirely for awhile. Signed up again with the same first name.
stevenaia Michinaga: welcome back
Bertrum Resident: Thanks.
Bertrum Resident: Has your connection to SL stayed the same over time?
stevenaia Michinaga: in what sence... my regularity?
stevenaia Michinaga: It lessens from time to time
Bertrum Resident: By connection I mean interest.
stevenaia Michinaga: I think my interest has continued consistently, however the strength of any particular place, even this one, has its strong more involved periods and other less involved moments
stevenaia Michinaga: I am here during my quiet evenings
stevenaia Michinaga: usually with my cat
stevenaia Michinaga: but there always seem to be this place to sit quietly
stevenaia Michinaga: never any "pressure" to participate
Bertrum Resident: Cat feel the same way?
stevenaia Michinaga: just his need to sit on my typing arms
Bertrum Resident: Nice!

--BELL--

Bertrum Resident: Hi ButterflyZen
stevenaia Michinaga: not at all, please join us
ButterflyZen Nightfire: thank you
stevenaia Michinaga: we are in the second hour of a regualr session here, they are recorded and put on the groups wiki, is it ok to include anything you say here?
ButterflyZen Nightfire: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: I gave yu a notecard about our group, have you been here before?
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes we sit here quietly, other time we chat about the nature of reality
ButterflyZen Nightfire: no I have never been here
ButterflyZen Nightfire: I am sorry I must go thank you for including me
stevenaia Michinaga: we meet every 6 hours
stevenaia Michinaga: feel free to retuen
stevenaia Michinaga: 1:00 and 7:00 am and pm
Bertrum Resident: Good night ButterflyZen
ButterflyZen Nightfire: thank you I will
stevenaia Michinaga: night
Bertrum Resident: Steve, I need to log off too. Good to chat with you again.
stevenaia Michinaga: bed time for me too
stevenaia Michinaga: see yu soon
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I don;t see lina