2009.01.02 13:00 - Spoon bending mind

Solobill was the guardian for this session, and though there were some earnest sputters, the engine really never got going on this one...comments are Solobill's.

I arrived at pavilion and sat quietly for a few minutes until Steve arrived.

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Solobill
Solobill Laville: Hey, Steve! Happy New Year!
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks same to you
stevenaia Michinaga: you all alone today?
Solobill Laville: thx
Solobill Laville: so far
Solobill Laville: (not anymore, unless you leave)
Solobill Laville: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: i can stay for a bit, I ahve a 4:30 bus to catch
Solobill Laville: ah, ok then!

Doug joined us.

doug Sosa: hi all.
Solobill Laville: Hey, Doug
Solobill Laville: Happy New Year!
doug Sosa: so far :)
Solobill Laville: ;)
Solobill Laville: Hiya, Syl!
Sylectra Darwin: hi everyone.
stevenaia Michinaga: so much for staying
Solobill Laville: connection issues?
stevenaia Michinaga: SL crash
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Sylectra and doug
Sylectra Darwin: smiles
doug Sosa: hello.
Solobill Laville: How is everyone? Anything to share?
Solobill Laville notes to be careful with Syl, as she is packing heat..
Sylectra Darwin: hehe
Sylectra Darwin: it's for a space girl costume.
Sylectra Darwin: just for fun.
doug Sosa: i have found "happy new year' more strange than usual.i guess because most people seem cautios, appreensive..
Sylectra Darwin: I am definitely in that camp.
Solobill Laville: Hmmm...why is that do you suppose?
doug Sosa: but then no need to..
doug Sosa: can't imagine..
doug Sosa: it is too in our face..
doug Sosa: obvious..

Steve brought the phenomenology experiments.

stevenaia Michinaga: I have attending the Happy hours on friday the past few weeks, this week Pema informed us the path he is investigating is no light step (me words) ie, his experiments are tought little excerises
stevenaia Michinaga: kira Happy hours
Solobill Laville: Can you explain more Steve?
stevenaia Michinaga: mind bending tought experiments
Solobill Laville: "no light step"?
Sylectra Darwin: interesting
stevenaia Michinaga: the report are on a Google group page
Solobill Laville: oh yes, the object-subject experiments, are you doing those?
doug Sosa: yes, fun when you realize everything is looking at you all the time :)
Solobill Laville: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: yes.... I ask doug but as put it so wonderfully to pem ... I don't read email
stevenaia Michinaga: as he
Solobill Laville: Oooh, that is enticing...no email...
doug Sosa: well, i read email bot PaB email.
Solobill Laville: I have read a little bit of those discussions, very interesting stuff indeed!
doug Sosa: bot = but not
stevenaia Michinaga: http://groups.google.com/group/kira-phenomenology-workshop
Solobill Laville: I remembered that about 10 years ago I had a spell where I actually did that, without choosing to do so, seeing myself from outside, so to speak
stevenaia Michinaga: unfortunately I can only stay a few munutes longer so I can't get into to much detail, but it certaily interesting reading, in some respects
Solobill Laville: yes, it is interesting to read the consistent reports of appreciating

Solobill Laville: "non-animate" things like refridgerators, buses, and so on...makes me smile as I read them
Sylectra Darwin: I think so too although i have not yet tried the subject object experiment
Sylectra Darwin: steven take care
stevenaia Michinaga: some can write beautifully
Solobill Laville: "inspired", perhaps...
Solobill Laville: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: inspiring refrigerators, and spoons only here
Solobill Laville: hehe
doug Sosa: the real trick is, they also find us inspiring:)
Solobill Laville: ahhh
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, indeed, that's what bends the mind
Sylectra Darwin: hehe!
Sylectra Darwin: opportunities for humor there.
stevenaia Michinaga: more like excercise
Solobill Laville: Go on, please, Doug
doug Sosa: a bent mind can see around corners the straight mind can't.
Solobill Laville: (lol, the mind-bending spoon!)
stevenaia Michinaga: no, spoon bending mind in this case
stevenaia Michinaga: and on that note, have a good weekend all
Solobill Laville: Bye, Steve :)
doug Sosa: joking aside (imposible), he experience of being watched by an object is very interesting.
Sylectra Darwin: you too steven!
Solobill Laville: How so?
doug Sosa: yes, i too need to go for a few things before the 2pm tak at kira.
Solobill Laville: OK, bye, Doug
doug Sosa: thanks bye!

With just me and Syl I ask her a semi-personal question; then a newbie arrives.

Solobill Laville: So, are you feeling settled yet, Syl?
Solobill Laville: Hello, Brad
Sylectra Darwin: starting to, thanks!
Brad1 Rexen: Hi,am i too late for this?
Solobill Laville: No, please join us
Solobill Laville: (yw, Syl)
Solobill Laville: Are you familiar with play as being Brad?
Brad1 Rexen: no im not
Solobill Laville: OK, here are a couple of notecards
Solobill Laville: but, briefly, we're a group that explores the nature of reality and awareness
Solobill Laville: we publish these chats to our wiki
Solobill Laville: are you ok with your comments being seen by the internet universe?
Brad1 Rexen: Sure
Brad1 Rexen accepted your inventory offer.
Solobill Laville: okey-dokey
Solobill Laville: thanks
Solobill Laville: It is interesting, Syl
Brad1 Rexen: no problem
Solobill Laville: SOmetimes I do not feel very settled in my, hmmm, practice(?)
Solobill Laville: And sometimes I feel very...
Brad1 Rexen accepted your inventory offer.
Sylectra Darwin: that describes me at the moment...smiles
Solobill Laville: :)
Sylectra Darwin: are you trying the subject-object experiments?
Solobill Laville: nope
Sylectra Darwin: either of you?
Solobill Laville: (Brad is new here)
Sylectra Darwin: I need to. they sound interesting.
Sylectra Darwin: nods
Solobill Laville: Yes! your should then
Sylectra Darwin: welcome brad.
Brad1 Rexen: thanks
Solobill Laville: I think it helps to break through the crust that builds up around our impressions of what we are
Solobill Laville: (SL does that too I think, yes?)
Solobill Laville: In other words, if you look at yourself from the "camera's" perspective (or whatever perspective)
Sylectra Darwin: interesting way of thinking about it!

At this point, a Spanish speaking new avatar arrived and I spent several minutes communicating with him with my translator on ultimately pointing him towards a Spanish-speaking search to learn how to make SL money...

...Nostrum joins us.

Solobill Laville: Heya, Nostrum!
Nostrum Forder: Hi
Sylectra Darwin: hi!
Solobill Laville: I don't think we have ever met, nice to meet you
Nostrum Forder: Seems kind of slow today.
Sylectra Darwin: weve had people dropping by.
Solobill Laville: 4 others than us...or do you mean SL is slow?
Nostrum Forder: SL is working ok for me.
Nostrum Forder: Just usually find a bunch of people here when there's a meeting.
Solobill Laville: ah, ok, me too...
Solobill Laville: Yes, well, it's my session....so...you know....
Solobill Laville: ;)
Solobill Laville: Syl, are you doing any PaB practices now?
Sylectra Darwin: yes i am. :)
Sylectra Darwin: brb - phone
Solobill Laville: anything to report? ah, ok
Nostrum Forder: She's doing an exercise we like to call "screaming at the @$%^heads at Verizon."
Nostrum Forder giggles.
Solobill Laville has Verizon too...
Solobill Laville: Verizon troubles, Nostrum??

Nostrum was then away from the keyboard, so I sat quietly for a few minutes.

Solobill Laville: Hi, Lia
Solobill Laville: Hi, Pila
Lia Rikugun: sorry i have to go
Solobill Laville: np :)
Pila Mulligan: hi
Lia Rikugun: to kira cafe no
Lia Rikugun: ?
Solobill Laville: yes, there is a meeting in 3 minutes
Solobill Laville: at kira
Solobill Laville: (so I'm told)
Pila Mulligan: greetings -- now heading for the 2:00 pheno meeting :)
Solobill Laville: okey-dokey :)
Pila Mulligan: hmm, verry laggy
Solobill Laville: Could be the beans...
Solobill Laville: ;)

Lia TP'ed, Pila crashed, Syl and Nostrum sat in afk silence...

Solobill Laville strikes the gavel
Solobill Laville: Goodday, ladies!

And so ends one for the books...