The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.
DR42 Resident: 's current display-name is "Marjorie Chardin".
DR42 Resident: ηαмαѕтє
Riddle Sideways: Aloha :)
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Riddle Sideways: please forgive asking, but are you the real Maude?
DR42 Resident: Yes
Riddle Sideways: good
DR42 Resident: My name is Dame Marjorie Chardin, but please, call me Maude. All my friends do..
Arisia Vita: 's current display-name is "Ari".
Arisia Vita: greetings all
Riddle Sideways: Hi Ari
Riddle Sideways: long time
Arisia Vita: I've missed you both too
Riddle Sideways: small trouble getting motivated this morning to chat about motivation :)
Arisia Vita: The pillars of self-improvement are awareness, good-judgment, motivation and self-discipline. The awareness to recognize those things which need improvement, the good-judgment to select an appropriate plan of action, the motivation to act on the plan, and the self-discipline to carry it through.
Arisia Vita: there is much to be said for quiet contemplation too :)
Riddle Sideways: each of those 4 get harder as they go
Arisia Vita: so true
Arisia Vita: I wonder why?
Riddle Sideways: awareness of needing improvement is pretty easy
Riddle Sideways: lots of others around to mention them
Arisia Vita: why should each step along the path be more difficult?
DR42 Resident: But others mentioning them isn't the point.
Arisia Vita: forgive me, as an engineer I am always asking why... :)
Arisia Vita: or how
DR42 Resident: I don't think it does get more difficult, unless you have ADD. :)
Arisia Vita: perhaps they only seem more difficult to you Riddle?
Riddle Sideways: :)
Riddle Sideways: when is a tough question too
Arisia Vita: indeed
DR42 Resident: Is it that you are reaching for "Perfction" and you see it as a more difficuly goal?
Arisia Vita: good question Marjorie
Riddle Sideways: Perfection would be a lofty goal. Good judgement would be to know that almost perfection would be a better goal
Arisia Vita: more attainable...
Arisia Vita: perfection is always just beyond our grasp
DR42 Resident: It could be that, as one expands their awareness they are able tounderstand their environment more and more, and, hence, the areas where they could strive for self-improvement.
DR42 Resident: Accept that you will never be perfect.
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DR42 Resident: What motivates one to strive for unreachable perfection?
Arisia Vita: the desire to improve?
Riddle Sideways: it might be good judgment not to be unreachable perfection
Arisia Vita: one can always be better without ever reaching perfection
DR42 Resident: "Good enough for Government work."
Arisia Vita: "It's impossible," said Pride. "It's risky," said Experience. "It's pointless," said Reason. "Give it a try," whispered the Heart.
Riddle Sideways: yesterday, spent a long time learning (and living with) a song "More than Fine" (by Switchfoot"
Riddle Sideways: is not enough to get up each morning to be just Fine
Arisia Vita: what did you learn?
Arisia Vita: ah, do not settle for the status quo?
Riddle Sideways: yes
Arisia Vita: keep climbing...
Arisia Vita: On the mountains of truth you can never climb in vain: either you will reach a point higher up today, or you will be training your powers so that you will be able to climb higher tomorrow. -Friedrich Nietzsche
DR42 Resident: "Truth" can be so subjective, however.
Arisia Vita: how true :)
Riddle Sideways: obtaining the top of the mountain is a great goal, but the journey ... might be worth more.
DR42 Resident: Life IS the journey.
Arisia Vita: each new day a promise of new discovery
Riddle Sideways: Being Motivated to pop out of bed, for today perfection will be reached
DR42 Resident: When we go on vacation, my partner wants to have a specific place to head. I say: "Let's just 'Go' and see where we end up."
Riddle Sideways: ha, did both of those Sunday
Riddle Sideways: target destination for some in the car was a little jade cove 2 hours away
Arisia Vita: one path planned, the other left to chance...
Riddle Sideways: target experience for some was to see the coast and walk a beach
Riddle Sideways: motivated to just go drive the car for other's pleasure
Riddle Sideways: motivated to put a smile on a vistor's face
DR42 Resident: What is the motivation for participation here?
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Arisia Vita: my motivation is to help others
Riddle Sideways: Being !!
Riddle Sideways: (and Playing)
Arisia Vita: helping
Riddle Sideways: by helping others... are you helped yourself?
DR42 Resident: You are already being. Can it be said to be enhancine your understanding of being?
Arisia Vita: always
Riddle Sideways: In another sitcom an I plays an I, ego, self that forgets/drifts away from knowing I am Being
Riddle Sideways: come here to ground
Arisia Vita: to connect with others?
Riddle Sideways: a touchstone of ALL
Arisia Vita: "I" connected to others becomes "we"
Riddle Sideways: no, to connect with not others
Arisia Vita: to connect with yourself
Riddle Sideways: and more
Arisia Vita: a worthy goal
Riddle Sideways: taking 9 seconds to re-connect with "we"
DR42 Resident: "Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part."
Riddle Sideways: taking an hour to re-connect with that web
Arisia Vita: what causes one to "disconnect" from that web?
Arisia Vita: what breaks the connections?
Riddle Sideways: could be just drifting
DR42 Resident: Isolation, depression,
Arisia Vita: loneliness
Riddle Sideways: lack of motivation?
Arisia Vita: are the broken connections real or just illusion?
Riddle Sideways: not sure that matters
Riddle Sideways: one school says it is all illusion
DR42 Resident: Are connections elastic? Some stronger, some weaker, but all of them stretch and contract. Motivation could be to make them stronger, even if they are stretched.
Arisia Vita: good point Marjorie
Riddle Sideways: good description of String theory
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Riddle Sideways: coming here to see Entropy arranged many ways
Riddle Sideways: motivated to come and hear your take on the topic
Arisia Vita: to learn by listening to others
Riddle Sideways: the anticipation of hearing what an Ari says on motivation
Arisia Vita: which is why I come too...
Arisia Vita: to hear what others say
Riddle Sideways: an opening to what new exciting way this chat box will word the next line
Riddle Sideways: and what thoughts it will create
Riddle Sideways: this play is not already written
Arisia Vita: to just see where the path will take us...
Arisia Vita: why do children play?
Arisia Vita: to learn? or to laugh?
Arisia Vita: what is the motivation of a child?
DR42 Resident: We used to play a game when traveling. Each in the car took turns deciding which way to turn when at an intersection.
Riddle Sideways: better question might be... why do (adults) not pla. Or pertend we are not playing
Arisia Vita: I wonder if you answer the first question, will you not find the answer to the second?
Arisia Vita: and where did you end up Marjorie?
DR42 Resident: Some interesting places. :) We once found a covered bridge reachable only on dirt roads with a sign "$2 fine for driving faster than a man can walk."
Arisia Vita: how interesting
Arisia Vita: and even if you end up where you began....
Arisia Vita: We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. - T.S. Eliot
Arisia Vita: is knowing the basis for some motivation?
Riddle Sideways: or is not knowing the basis for some motivation?
Arisia Vita: to know what you don't know....
Riddle Sideways: is a worthy motivation
Arisia Vita: otherwise known as wisdom
Riddle Sideways: may it be found today
Riddle Sideways: than given to others
DR42 Resident flashes on a "Calvin and Hobbes" comic on intentional ignorance.
--BELL--
Arisia Vita: alas, rl calls and I am motivated to answer.... it's been great being with both of you, which is justification enough for me...be well and happy until we meet again
Arisia Vita: see you soon
Riddle Sideways: have your best day
Riddle Sideways: and thank you
DR42 Resident: bye
Arisia Vita: my pleasure, and yours I hope
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