2013.08.18 07:00 - Intention and Life

The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
DR42 Resident: 's current display-name is "Marjorie Chardin".
Bleu Oleander: hi Maude
DR42 Resident: Hi
Bleu Oleander: how are u?
DR42 Resident: Kind of tired, but otherwise fine. And you?
Bleu Oleander: pretty good
Bleu Oleander: our dogs got us up too early today :)
DR42 Resident: Our cat does that, too. Have you seen the "Simon's Cat" videos at all?
Bleu Oleander: no
Bleu Oleander: googling ... will watch ty!
DR42 Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ffwDYo00Q is the first. about being woken up.
DR42 Resident: They are all under 2 minutes.
Bleu Oleander: very cute!
Bleu Oleander: that's what my dog does only she's almost 100 lbs!
Bleu Oleander: hiya Bert!
DR42 Resident: Hello
Bleu Oleander: haven't seen you in a while :)
Bleu Oleander: how's everything?
Bertram Jacobus: that´s right - first live takes most of my time (!) ... ;-)
Bleu Oleander: me too these days :)
Bertram Jacobus: ty ! a new gf since beginning of this year ... so - that´s fine ! :-)
Bertram Jacobus: but how about you !? :-)
--BELL--

Bleu Oleander: been pretty busy with rl too
Bleu Oleander: topic this week is intention
Bleu Oleander: what guides people to motivate them to come to PaB?
Bertram Jacobus: oh. i see ! ... hmmm ... :-)
Bleu Oleander: last week's topic was motivation ... so a followup week's topic intention
Bertram Jacobus: for me, it´s the fascination of meeting other interesting people ...
Bleu Oleander: yes for me too ... for sl in general
Bertram Jacobus: what is the difference between motivation and intension - aren´t the y very similar ?
Bleu Oleander: related ...
DR42 Resident: PaB drives my curiosity, unlike most of SL.
Bertram Jacobus: hehe. i see. nice ... majorie ... :-)
Bleu Oleander: you could have an intention to come to PaB, but no motivation to follow through perhaps ... so what pushes on you might ask
DR42 Resident: short term goals vs. desires
Bertram Jacobus: hmm - i see bleu - ty for the explaniation ...
Bleu Oleander: at least that's how I interpret it
Bertram Jacobus: and excuse my typos, pls ... ;-)
Bleu Oleander: np :)
Bleu Oleander: make many myself lol
Bertram Jacobus: hmmm - i tzhink, i can follow that interpretation, at least to have a talk about that, here ... ;-)
Bleu Oleander: ok good
Bertram Jacobus: so - i found pab by chance and i come again and again, i return, because the people here are serious mostly, in a way ... ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: i like to communicate and i found really good friends via the net ...
Bleu Oleander: is it an experiment to you? in the sense of using your mind as a lab to discover reality?
Bertram Jacobus: hmmm - let me think ...
Bleu Oleander: I think that was the general idea when it started
Bleu Oleander: seems to have gotten away from that a bit
Bertram Jacobus: not really - it´s more a game (!) i try to see the whole life as a game (!) ...
Bleu Oleander: life as a game?
Bertram Jacobus: serious and playing at the same time - i hope that can be understood (?) ...
Bleu Oleander: what are the game-like qualities of life to you?
Bertram Jacobus: yes ! i found that i don´t like to see life as a fight or as a kind of criminal movie - i prefere to play, as being ... ;o)
Bleu Oleander: nice :)
Bertram Jacobus: everything should be playful in taht way that we can call it "relaxed" - that is, what i meant ...
Bleu Oleander: who is playing?
Bertram Jacobus: nobody, at the end ... ;-) (is playing) - everything and everybody is without an eternal existence - that is how i understand it ...
Bertram Jacobus: only being lasts ...
Bleu Oleander: and what is being to you?
Bertram Jacobus: but not a "me" , an "ego" or such ...
Bertram Jacobus: being is being
Bertram Jacobus: existance
Bleu Oleander: so all life?
Bertram Jacobus: yes
Bertram Jacobus: life is mobvement to me ...
Bertram Jacobus: damn - i write like a horse - sry again pls ... :o)
Bleu Oleander: lol
Bertram Jacobus: :o))
Bleu Oleander: movement?
Bertram Jacobus: yes - is´nt live moved, moving ?
Bertram Jacobus: life*
Bleu Oleander: so movement of anything is life?
Bertram Jacobus: it´s an impression i have , yes
Bertram Jacobus: a kind of idea ...
Bleu Oleander: interesting ... very broad definition
Bertram Jacobus: let me look up broad in my dictionary ... i guess what it is but like to know it exactly ... ;-)
Bleu Oleander: wide
Bleu Oleander: all encompassing
--BELL--

Bertram Jacobus: yes. i see. ty ! :-)
Bleu Oleander: a large net that captures everything

Bleu Oleander: btw, speaking of typos .... can you read this?

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(Bleu Oleander: sorry to throw that in there lol)

Bertram Jacobus: but ... isn´t it correct : life = movement ? ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: ehm - no (?) :o)
Bleu Oleander: well some things move that I wouldn't call life
Bertram Jacobus: (can´t read that) ! :o)
DR42 Resident: No, I will not forwared it, because I could not read it. :)
Bertram Jacobus: hmmm - which ones , for example ?
Bleu Oleander: atoms move
Bleu Oleander: electrons move
Bleu Oleander: light moves
Bertram Jacobus: may be they live (!) ... ;-)
Bleu Oleander: well then you could say everything is life
DR42 Resident: Heat moves.
Bertram Jacobus: mye be, all that is part of the life of the universe ...
Bleu Oleander: so no need to make a distinction then
Bertram Jacobus: i don´t have to do that, but i can do that and i do so i consder ... ;-)
Bleu Oleander: we call some entities "life" and base our values on that
Bleu Oleander: so we may treat our dogs differently then we treat the rocks in our backyard
Bertram Jacobus: i know the value of considering everything in a kind of same appreciation ...
Bleu Oleander: yes appreciation for everything
Bleu Oleander: but not necessarily because everything is life?
Bertram Jacobus: no :-)
Bertram Jacobus: it´s "enough" to learn, that appreciation in general is helpful, healthy so to say and so on ... good
Bleu Oleander: yes appreciation of all is a good thing
Bertram Jacobus: and i appreciate you company very much, play as beers ! ;-)
Bleu Oleander: and I yours!
Bertram Jacobus: hehe. ty ... :-)
Bleu Oleander: so lovely to have conversations with everyone and listen to their ideas on such a wide range of topics!
Bertram Jacobus: yes ...
Bleu Oleander: a good motivation to keep coming here!
Bertram Jacobus: very much so -
Bleu Oleander: do you both explore sl outside of PaB?
Bleu Oleander: or other virtual worlds?
Bertram Jacobus waits to give now a bit space to marjorie (!) ...
Bertram Jacobus: but as long as she doesn´t write ... i can say that i mostly do the weekly meditation here and sometime svisit dancing places here ...
Bleu Oleander: dancing is fun in sl :)
DR42 Resident: Yea, I will find the linden roads or trains and follow them just to see what I find.
Bertram Jacobus: and i am active on another caht platform , only text based ...
Bertram Jacobus: chat*
Bertram Jacobus: hehe. i find sl very exciting, but one needs to have time to explore and "live" in it - and not only few (!) ... ;-)
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
DR42 Resident: Meditation at the Buddha Center, music at various places, even a support group or two.
Bertram Jacobus: most of the time, sadly, i don´t have so much time anymore ...
Bleu Oleander: I don't find meditation in sl good for me
Bertram Jacobus: hehe. that sounds very similar to my interests here marjorine (!) ... :-)
Bleu Oleander: too distracting
Bertram Jacobus: hmm - why not bleu ?
Bertram Jacobus: - hmmm ;-)
Bleu Oleander: my computer is in a busy part of my home
Bertram Jacobus: it´s really an astonishing new form of meditation ! ...
Bertram Jacobus: oh . i see ...
Bleu Oleander: I like meditation out in nature
Bleu Oleander: listening to the sounds of "life"
Bertram Jacobus: i like meditation everywhere ...
--BELL--

DR42 Resident: 90 seconds seems so long today.
Bertram Jacobus: and i feel life everywhere ... not at least inside ...
Bertram Jacobus: hehe. sometimes long, sometimes short ... :-)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bertram Jacobus: i ,ove the pauses ! ...
Bertram Jacobus: love*
Bleu Oleander: what happens in the pauses for you?
Bertram Jacobus: peace ...
Bertram Jacobus: awareness ...
Bleu Oleander: do you clear your mind?
Bleu Oleander: what are you aware of?
Bertram Jacobus: hmmm - i´m not sure, but it feels nice, mostly ...
Bertram Jacobus: aware of waht is
Bertram Jacobus: what*
Bertram Jacobus: feelings, perceptions, thoughts ... some examples
Bleu Oleander: for me new things expand within my perceptions
DR42 Resident: Clear my mind, but sometimes deal with interuptions.
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: interruptions are a part of life
Bleu Oleander: its how we deal with them
Bertram Jacobus: dears - i´m sorry : i feel, i shoul relax a bit ... exhauting times these days for me. not bad, but exhausting. so excuse me pls ! ...
Bleu Oleander: sure, nice to see you Bert
Bleu Oleander: take care
DR42 Resident: bye
Bleu Oleander: thanks for stopping by
Bertram Jacobus: ty - same same ;-) - and ty for the chat ! "may all beings be happy pls" ! ... *wave* ...
Bleu Oleander: I must go also ... need to walk the pups before it gets too hot :)
DR42 Resident: kk
Bleu Oleander: take care Maude
DR42 Resident: you, too
Bleu Oleander: have a nice Sunday
DR42 Resident: Don't watch too many cat cartoons
Bleu Oleander: lol kk