The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

DR42 Resident: 's current display-name is "Marjorie Chardin".
Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
DR42 Resident: ηαмαѕтє
Bruce Mowbray: Namaste!
Bruce Mowbray: I read the screenplay of HAROLD AND MAUDE.
Bruce Mowbray: .. and learned that the sculptor's name was not "Malchus."
Bruce Mowbray: It was "Glaucus."
Bruce Mowbray: Malchus was the name of the Centurian whose ear got cut off by Peter.
DR42 Resident: It may have been changed in the Movie. For instance, in the screen play, the car was a MGB, in the movie, they upgraded it to a XKE E-type. Much more pointed.
--BELL--1300
Bruce Mowbray: kk, didn't realize that.
Bruce Mowbray: I haven't watched the movie in some time. Maybe I will watch it tonight.
Agatha Macbeth: 's current display-name is "Aggers".
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, aggers.
Agatha Macbeth: Evenin'
Agatha Macbeth: How is we?
Bruce Mowbray: I is good, don't know about Maude, though.
DR42 Resident: Semi OK. I have entered the Epsilon minus state.
Bruce Mowbray: oh my....
Agatha Macbeth: Is that bad?
DR42 Resident: It is for the idiots.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
DR42 Resident: I feel like my IQ is about 75 today.
Agatha Macbeth: What is it usually?
Bruce Mowbray: Epsilon Minus was a EBM/techno/trance band from Canada formed in 2000 by Bogart Shwadchuck and Jennifer Parkin. They signed with Belgian record company Alfa Matrix to release their first album in 2002. Jennifer left in 2003 to start her own project, Ayria. Bogart continued the band solo, releasing records in 2003 and 2004 with help from collaborators The Azoic, Distorted Reality, Null Device, and Stromkern.
Bruce Mowbray: (Do you now know any more than you did before, aggers?)
Agatha Macbeth: Bogart Shwadchuck sounds like a SL name
Bruce Mowbray: Here comes Wollie.
DR42 Resident: It was also used to refer to the challenged in some sci-fi book that I cannot for the life of me, remember.
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Bruce Mowbray: (at least she just came on-line.)
Agatha Macbeth: Well life's all about challenges eh
Bruce Mowbray: I will try to find the sci-fi book, Maude.
Agatha Macbeth: Does Blub's son have a name?
Agatha Macbeth: Wollie ♥
Wol Euler: evening all
Wol Euler: Blub MacBlubson
Bruce Mowbray: Brave New World, it is.
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Wol!
DR42 Resident: Yes!
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if we'll see a son of Spot?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh BNW
Bruce Mowbray: McBlubson
Agatha Macbeth: Mr Huxley
Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: hey all :)
Agatha Macbeth: He was about 6 foot 10 and blind as a bat if I remember right
DR42 Resident: Elevator Man.
Wol Euler: hello bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Bleuji :)
DR42 Resident: hi hi
Agatha Macbeth: Definitely the only person I know called Aldous
Bruce Mowbray feels that Wol should become a professional fish-namer.
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe she could design one for us?
Wol Euler smiles modestly.
Agatha Macbeth: How's it going Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: pretty good, u?
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, good but sad summer is coming to an end
Bruce Mowbray: sad summer?
Bleu Oleander: happy for me :)
Bleu Oleander: too hot!
Agatha Macbeth: No good one, that's the point
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, warm here too
Bruce Mowbray: kk, "sad" that a good summer is coming to an end.
Bruce Mowbray: (Got it!)
Wol Euler grins.
Agatha Macbeth pulls your antlers
Wol Euler: it gains from careful phrasing
Bruce Mowbray: ouch!
Agatha Macbeth: What made you move to the desert Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: good question!
Bruce Mowbray: listens carefully.
Bleu Oleander: still trying to formulate an answer to that one lol
Agatha Macbeth: Thought it might be work or something
Bleu Oleander: combo of things
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Bleu Oleander: has its moments though
Agatha Macbeth: Stormy did it for love of course :)
Bruce Mowbray feels that most things in life (if not ALL) are combos of things.
Agatha Macbeth: Bless him
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, true that
Bleu Oleander: well love was part of it :)
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: origins are infinite.
Bruce Mowbray: (like Dharma gates).
Agatha Macbeth: People always seek simplistic explanaitions tho it seems
Bleu Oleander: have any of you been to AZ?
Wol Euler: nope
Wol Euler: or: not yet
Agatha Macbeth: I've been from A to Z :p
Bruce Mowbray: AZ is only one of three states I have not yet had the pleasure to visit.
Bleu Oleander: very nice Oct - June
Agatha Macbeth: Lots of cactus?
Bleu Oleander: indeed
Bruce Mowbray makes note to visit in Oct - June.
DR42 Resident: Many times.
Bleu Oleander: yes?
Bleu Oleander: did you like it?
DR42 Resident: Yes, I was in Tucson, mostly, then Tempe.
Bleu Oleander: its a very pretty state if you get out of the big cities
Bruce Mowbray: Is your state really as beautiful as those photos in ARIZONA HIGHWAYS, Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Bruce Mowbray: Ahhh!
Bleu Oleander: should work for the dept of tourism haha
--BELL--1315
Bruce Mowbray: http://arizona-highways-magazine.com...FQ1gMgodrXQAxQ
Bruce Mowbray: yw.
DR42 Resident: it is quite pretty, but I would not trade it in for the fall in New England.
Bleu Oleander: well, I might argue there
Bleu Oleander: fall in the desert is gorgeous
Bruce Mowbray: apples and oranges.
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: the most beautiful sunsets are in the fall
Bruce Mowbray: Newton and Einstein
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Mm sunsets
Bleu Oleander: I do love the fall back east though too
Bruce Mowbray: "back east"?
Bleu Oleander: NYC
Bruce Mowbray: ou once lived "back east"?
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh!
DR42 Resident: Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how twisted, sick, perverse, or wrong it may be. Mine is fairly twisted.
Bruce Mowbray: so is my typist's, Maude.
Bleu Oleander: sounds OK to me :)
Wol Euler: sure, but that entitlement does not mean that we must listen to the opinion, much less accept it
Bruce Mowbray: indeed, Wol.
Wol Euler: the right of free speech includes the right of "don't give a damn, not going to listen"
Agatha Macbeth: I take it as it comes
DR42 Resident: But, I olny live in SL, and we don't have things like summer and winter here. Kind of like "The big island"
Bruce Mowbray: Regard it, possible, as an 'emergence' of the larger Cosmos.
Bruce Mowbray: possibly*
Bleu Oleander: I would give it a listen ... maybe not a second listen ...
Agatha Macbeth: Emergence...there's a word
Bruce Mowbray: "All things are possible."
Bruce Mowbray: Isn't "emergence" a lovely word?
Agatha Macbeth: It is
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
DR42 Resident: All things are possible, but not desirable.
Bruce Mowbray: viva le difference!
Bleu Oleander: pictures a butterfly when hearing emergence
Agatha Macbeth: Oui
Bruce Mowbray pictures transformation when imagining "emergence."
Agatha Macbeth: Metamorphosis
Agatha Macbeth: Yay flutterbies
Bleu Oleander: uh oh here they come ...
Agatha Macbeth: Now e just need Liz
Bruce Mowbray: Did someone say "transformation"?
Agatha Macbeth: +w
Bleu Oleander: this is emergence on steroids :)
Agatha Macbeth: Transformer was an album by Lou Reed
Bruce Mowbray: https://www.google.com/search?q=Lou+...ient=firefox-a
Agatha Macbeth: Take a walk on the wild side
DR42 Resident: transformer is also an electrical component.
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Agatha Macbeth: Do they still make them?
Bruce Mowbray: Transformers?
DR42 Resident: Of course.
Agatha Macbeth: Haven't been replaced by silicon chips then?
Agatha Macbeth: Well that's good to know
Bruce Mowbray: (Sleep easy, aggers.)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I do
Agatha Macbeth: Waking up is my prob
Bruce Mowbray: Oh yeah!
Agatha Macbeth: I'm like a freakin zombie first thing
Bruce Mowbray: (a recious moment, indeed.)
Bruce Mowbray: precious*
Agatha Macbeth: Precioussss
DR42 Resident: Takes me 1 1/2 hours to wake up and be presentable.
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: That fast?
Bruce Mowbray: caffeine more caffeine more caffeine.
Bleu Oleander: or a couple of dogs haha
Agatha Macbeth: That just makes me go to the toilet too much
Wol Euler: I can usually roll out of bed and get going in seconds
Wol Euler: except for jetlag days
Bruce Mowbray: Me too, Wol. My typist is definitely a "morning person."
Agatha Macbeth: It's actually the rolling out that's the hard part
DR42 Resident: Ah, the smell of cold pizza in the morning.
Bruce Mowbray: yukkkk.
Agatha Macbeth: Euch
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Zen Arado: 's current display-name is "Zen".
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Zenny
Bruce Mowbray: Yo, Zen-ji!
Bleu Oleander: hiya Zen
--BELL--1330
Zen Arado: Hi all
DR42 Resident: bruce, I am surprised that you didn't get the reference. Ah, the smell of napalm in the morning.
Bruce Mowbray: Nope, didn't get that.
Wol Euler: time for you to watch it again, I
Wol Euler: I'd say :)
DR42 Resident: Apocalypse Now
Wol Euler grins.
Bruce Mowbray: Ahhh! YES! HAROLD AND MAUDE
Agatha Macbeth knows it well
Bruce Mowbray: Or.....
Wol Euler: or, indeed.
Wol Euler: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Apocalypse Now??????
Agatha Macbeth: This is the end
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: "I love the smell of napalm in the morning." First spoken line of the film
Wol Euler: well, first speech by a character, there are noises and voices from outside as he wakes up
Agatha Macbeth: The book it was based on is good too
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXVGQnJm0w
Wol Euler: yes, love that too. One of the very rare occasions IMHO where a film is as good as the book
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, that is indeed a rare event
Bruce Mowbray: iconic.
Agatha Macbeth: Tho in the case of Blade runner I found the opposite true
Wol Euler: hmmmmmmmm
Bruce Mowbray listens.,
Wol Euler: you may be right :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
DR42 Resident: To Kill a Mockingbird. book == movie.
Agatha Macbeth awards herself a gold star
Wol Euler: certainly the "tears in the rain" scene is one of the best bits of cinema ever made by anyone anywhere#
Agatha Macbeth: True that
Bleu Oleander: if the book is a good book its nearly always better than the movie for me
Agatha Macbeth: Usually
Bleu Oleander: usually
Wol Euler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_saUN4j7Gw
DR42 Resident: Well, you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how .... Wait, we went there already.
Wol Euler smiles.
Bleu Oleander: :)
Zen Arado: haven't seen either film
Agatha Macbeth: Bloody hell Zenny
Zen Arado: I'll have to get out more
Agatha Macbeth: Where have you been all your life?
Wol Euler: hello zen, didn't see you arrive
Zen Arado: not watching films anyway :)
Agatha Macbeth: Evidently!
Agatha Macbeth: Playing music I guess
Bruce Mowbray: "Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it?"
Zen Arado: doing useful things like...umm..
Agatha Macbeth: Yah
Zen Arado: couldwatch on internet
Zen Arado: but that's illegal
Bruce Mowbray: "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe."
Wol Euler smiles.
Bruce Mowbray: "all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain."
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Bruce Mowbray: :(
Zen Arado: I thought Apocalypse now was post apocalyptic
Wol Euler:  (lost when he dies)
Zen Arado: like thise Mel Gibson movies
Zen Arado: looks like Vietnam
Agatha Macbeth: I like the comment someone made 'Ford is thinking he'll never be as good as this guy'
Wol Euler: there's a Borges short story about this, which starts with the death of an old man, who had seen a druid ceremony performed when he was a boy. He was the last person alive who had seen that, and now it's gone. Just as there was a last person to have heard Jesus, etc. (Paraphrasing)
Agatha Macbeth: Lucrecia?
Zen Arado: really enjoying 'History of Rock' Bleu
Zen Arado: will do part 1 when it starts in September
Bruce Mowbray reminds Bruce's typist of the last person in Native American tribes.
Bleu Oleander: nice Zen
Zen Arado: though Marjorie gave me videos already
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Vorder
Wol Euler: hello vorder
Bleu Oleander: hi Vorder
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Vorder!
DR42 Resident: So, if you start them now, you will be ahead of the game when it runs again.
Agatha Macbeth: Hope you can stay oline this time!
Zen Arado: also doing Songwritng course but it's a bit early for me to get fully into that
Agatha Macbeth: +n
Vorder Forder: hello.)
DR42 Resident: Vorder,
Zen Arado: Hi Vorder
Vorder Forder: good evening
Agatha Macbeth: You and your courses Zen
Bleu Oleander: tried the songwriting course ... too much for me to follow
DR42 Resident: There is a guitar course, also.
Zen Arado: it reminds me fo doing poetry in writing course
Zen Arado: he is a great teacher though
--BELL--1345
Zen Arado: but I would likwe to learn how to produce melodies
Bruce Mowbray: yw.
Zen Arado: songs need a singer
Agatha Macbeth: Wow, your fish did the pause too Bruceie
Zen Arado: polite fish
Agatha Macbeth: Now he's stuck :(
Bruce Mowbray: yeppers, he a;ways tries to stop swimming for the drops.
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Zen Arado: hands too weak for guitar now Marjorie
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Zen Arado: pity
Wol Euler sighs.
DR42 Resident: Oh, sorry to hear that.
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Berti.
Agatha Macbeth: Could you not do a Hendrix and use yer teeth?
Zen Arado: Hi Bert :)
Agatha Macbeth: Nabend Berti wie geht's?
Bertram Jacobus: hii friends :-)
Zen Arado: tried an electric one couple years ago
Bertram Jacobus: ty - it´s ... weired ? ;-)
Zen Arado: can strun a few chords but that's it
Bleu Oleander: hi Bert :)
Agatha Macbeth: Good to see you here again
Wol Euler: hallo berti
Bertram Jacobus: ty ! ... :-))
Wol Euler: setz dich zu uns
Bruce Mowbray: yw!
Zen Arado: gonna get an analogue synth
Zen Arado: just for fun
Agatha Macbeth: I see Mira is starting a blues club on PP
DR42 Resident: If I tried to use my teeth on an electric guitar, I would electrocute myself.
Agatha Macbeth: Zzap
Zen Arado: oh?
Bruce Mowbray: ouch!
Bertram Jacobus: we just had a interruption of the water system here in cologne (!) tz ... ;-)
Zen Arado: never heard that
Agatha Macbeth: Yep on sundays it says here
Agatha Macbeth: Erk Bert
Bruce Mowbray: some terrorist activity, Berti?
Bertram Jacobus: unbelievable ! ... *g*
Vorder Forder: Hendrix did that useing teeth :)
Agatha Macbeth: Very un-german
Bruce Mowbray: oh my.
Bertram Jacobus: no idea - now it´s running again , but ...
Bertram Jacobus: yes. i never experienced such before
Bruce Mowbray: wow.
DR42 Resident: Happens in Boston all the time.
Bleu Oleander: interesting what we take for granted
Bruce Mowbray: never happens here at the farm, because my typist has his own pump and well.
Agatha Macbeth: Well well
Wol Euler: wells run dry where fracking is used
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Bertram Jacobus: i think, people get more and more confused and the money goes more and more to some accumulations and so away from the masses where it would be needed (!) ...
Agatha Macbeth: Just don't go too many times Bruce, you know the old saying
Zen Arado: can't imgine doing without water
Bruce Mowbray: (No fracking here, thank goodness.)
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Bertram Jacobus: it does not work : life without water
Bertram Jacobus: at least not as we know it ...
Bertram Jacobus: and yes : that feels very ungerman ! ... ;o)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Wol Euler: Bob Marley reference?
Agatha Macbeth ponders?
Bruce Mowbray: "One Love"?
Agatha Macbeth: Wholemeal porridge?
Wol Euler: bottom dropping out of the bucketz
Wol Euler: -z
Agatha Macbeth: Ahh
Zen Arado: not uberman anyway
Zen Arado: (guesses)
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you all ... take care
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdB-8eLEW8g
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry, slow today
Zen Arado: byee Bleu
Bertram Jacobus: byee bleu ! *wave* ...
Agatha Macbeth: Epsilon minus must be contageous
DR42 Resident: bye
Agatha Macbeth: Take care Bleuji
DR42 Resident: Yes.
Agatha Macbeth: Stay cool
Wol Euler: bye bleu!
Bruce Mowbray: Bye bye, Bleu!
Vorder Forder: bye Bleu
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: <--- loves being slow ... :-)
Bruce Mowbray: Slow is good.
Agatha Macbeth: Slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
DR42 Resident: I have another meeting to attend, see you all leter.
Agatha Macbeth: Bye M, attend well
Zen Arado: doesn't have much choice
Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now, Maude!
Bertram Jacobus: bye marjorie :-)
Wol Euler: bye marjorie, take care
Zen Arado: but talked about that already ;)
Zen Arado: byee Marjorie
Bruce Mowbray: My typist is hitting on me to end this session, so I must go, also.
Agatha Macbeth: All ready for friday night Zen?
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Brucie and fish
Bruce Mowbray: bye for now, good people.
Bertram Jacobus: byee bruce ! :-)
Zen Arado: yes Aggers
Vorder Forder: take good care
Wol Euler: bye bruce, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Lookin forward to it
Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Zen Arado: might play a disco ance set
Agatha Macbeth: And Sunny too natch
Wol Euler: hello san
Vorder Forder: what is happening ?
Zen Arado: hard to know what people want
Santoshima Resident: hello everyone
Zen Arado: yes
Bertram Jacobus: san ... hello ! ... :-)
Zen Arado: Hi San :)
Vorder Forder: hello San
Agatha Macbeth: You know what they say can't please everyone
Agatha Macbeth: Hi San
--BELL--1400
Agatha Macbeth: The bird life suddenly got noisier
Bertram Jacobus: <--- hears nothing ! (?)
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe just me Berti
Bertram Jacobus: hmmm - why could rhat be ?+
Wol Euler: is your sound off? :)
Bertram Jacobus: - + ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Perhaps I have an insomniac blackbird outside my window
Bertram Jacobus: ah. now. strange : i had tried to switch on the sound just before, but seemingly it had not worked
Agatha Macbeth: Silly Bert
Bertram Jacobus: yes
Agatha Macbeth pokes you
Bertram Jacobus: matrix faults ... ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Software glitsch
Bertram Jacobus: illusion interruotions ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: That too
Bertram Jacobus: interruptions*
Bertram Jacobus: "a strange and wonderful world" ... ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Just trying to think who Zen reminds me of
Zen Arado: Stec=vie Wonder?
Zen Arado: Stevie
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Zen Arado: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Could be
Zen Arado: not black enough yet
Agatha Macbeth: Or a very tanned George Michael maybe
Vorder Forder: do you play an musical instument?
Bertram Jacobus: i play guitar and a bit klavier - whats the english word for it ? ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: I always wished I could play the piano or violin
Zen Arado: keyboard
Bertram Jacobus: ty zen :-)
Bertram Jacobus: klavier = keyboard ? no, i guess ...
Wol Euler: piano
Wol Euler: ?
Bertram Jacobus: hehe klavier = piano ?
Wol Euler: there are many keyboard instruments :)
Zen Arado: clavier is keyboard in French
Zen Arado: so I just guessed
Bertram Jacobus: my dictionary says piano ...
Agatha Macbeth: Piano is klavier in german then?
Bertram Jacobus: yes !
Agatha Macbeth: Aha
Bertram Jacobus: :-))
Agatha Macbeth: Makes sense somehow
Bertram Jacobus: hehe - in which way ? :-)
Zen Arado: computer keyboars id clavier in French
Zen Arado: a generic word
Santoshima Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikbQ4lThJGo
Agatha Macbeth: I seem to have heard 'klavierspiel' said somewhere
Bertram Jacobus: *click*
Santoshima Resident: 1 hour +
Bertram Jacobus: nice link - "clavier" ... :-)
Bertram Jacobus: and yes aggers : klavierspiel is a term which can be used ... :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Bertram Jacobus: :-))
--BELL--1415
Bertram Jacobus: vorder - i think we did not meet before - are you visiting pab since already a while ? ... :-)
Agatha Macbeth: You have been coming a while now I think?
Agatha Macbeth: Seems a long time
Wol Euler: End of October 2011 is when I met Vorder first :)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bertram Jacobus: yes : i must admit that i was not here very often the last months ... sry ... :-/
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: And we miss you too
Agatha Macbeth: Still good to see you on sundays
Bertram Jacobus: first life is just "too busy" - so no time left for everything i would like to do (!) ...
Agatha Macbeth: Berti the ladies man :p
Bertram Jacobus: and sl and pab needs a lot of time, is my impression - am i wrong ?
Agatha Macbeth: I think you're right
Bertram Jacobus: hehe aggers - you found one point ! ;-) - although ... i would use other words and angles of perspective, in a way ... ;-))
Agatha Macbeth smiles
Bertram Jacobus: i love when people recognize others (!) ...
Agatha Macbeth grins
Wol Euler: anything worth doing takes time, and many things that aren't worth doing too :)
Bertram Jacobus: other fear that (!) ...
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Bertram Jacobus: + s
Bertram Jacobus: i experience very much "hiding people versus open people" these days ...
Agatha Macbeth: In RL or SL?
Bertram Jacobus: both. because sl is a part of rl ...
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Bertram Jacobus: hmm ? ;-)
Wol Euler listens.
Bertram Jacobus: what does that mean, pls ? ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: That could be a topic on its own
Bertram Jacobus: which topic, pls ?
Agatha Macbeth: Hiding v Open
Santoshima Resident: is that introvert/extrovert?
Bertram Jacobus: ah okay. i experience that that is very much linked with fear ... so ... not easy to talk about for the hidden folks ...
Bertram Jacobus: i think, introvert/extrovert is at least very close to open - hidden -
Bertram Jacobus: i experience it so intense because ma gf is the opposite side of me relating to this topic (!) ...
Wol Euler is curious.
Agatha Macbeth: Opposites attract eh?
Bertram Jacobus: no. not so much as similarities
Agatha Macbeth: Not like magnets then
Bertram Jacobus: common interests are more helpful, easie
Bertram Jacobus: r
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Bertram Jacobus: but some differences are interesting, for sure
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe works both ways
Bertram Jacobus: and what about is your curiosity wol, pls ? ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: i would say : 80 % similarity and 20 % difference could be a nice mixture, for example ... ;o)
Wol Euler: how you would say who is which :)
Wol Euler grins.
Bertram Jacobus: oh - you don´t guess that woly !? ...
Wol Euler: oh yes :)
Agatha Macbeth twangs Wol's straps
Wol Euler: just being a little silly
--BELL--1430
Wol Euler: ow
Bertram Jacobus: ;o)
Bertram Jacobus: and i´m convinced that openness is better as being introverted (!) ...
Wol Euler: why?
Agatha Macbeth: Much of it is governed ny the personality
Bertram Jacobus: because you don´t have to suffer from boundries, then
Santoshima Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RjebdVKIAM
Bertram Jacobus: boundaries - sry ...
Wol Euler: perhaps others suffer from the extrovert's lack of boundaries
Zen Arado: openness makes us more vulverable
Zen Arado: heh
Santoshima Resident: agreed wol, possible
Bertram Jacobus: oh san - i still hear the clavier link ! ...
Zen Arado: vulverable
Wol Euler: I think that being what you are is better than trying to be something else
Zen Arado: vulnerable
Zen Arado: no vulva involved
Zen Arado: :)
Bertram Jacobus: lol
Santoshima Resident: aw
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
Bertram Jacobus: but wol - how then we develop ?
Bertram Jacobus: and for sure openness should not harm (!) ...
Bertram Jacobus: and motivation is the key i would say ...
Zen Arado: it is lowering defences too
Bertram Jacobus: when you don´t need any defence that is the best defence ...
Zen Arado: so we are careful who we expose ourselves to
Wol Euler: okay, my statement was far too broad
Zen Arado: hmm sometimes we have to protect I think
Agatha Macbeth: Should always beware of exposing yerself
Zen Arado: heh
Zen Arado: :)
Wol Euler: feeling that one's basic mode of being is invalid, is a bad thing. (Assuming for the moment that your basic mode is not a murderous psychopath)
Bertram Jacobus: more or less zen. less is better in my opinion - if we need to do that less i mean ...
Zen Arado: but I agree we should be as open as we dare
Wol Euler: always respecting the involuntary listeners' right not to have to hear your shit :)
Zen Arado: without allowing ourselves unnecessary hurt
Zen Arado: to be
Zen Arado: or something
Bertram Jacobus: we could have a look at the things which says : there is nothing unneccesairy ...
Vorder Forder: you can hear shit
Vorder Forder: ?
Wol Euler: spoken shit, aye
Wol Euler smiles.
Vorder Forder: spoken shit
Agatha Macbeth: You can smell it too
Zen Arado: better go ...tired
Santoshima Resident: bye Zen
Vorder Forder: gone
Wol Euler: goodnight zen, sleep well
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Zenny, bop well
Santoshima Resident: bye Vorder
Wol Euler: bye vorder, take care
Zen Arado: nite all
Agatha Macbeth: And Vorder
Bertram Jacobus: good night dear zen ! *wave*
Santoshima Resident: bye folks
Agatha Macbeth: Bye San
Wol Euler: bye berti, bye san
Bertram Jacobus: bye san ...
Wol Euler: oh, hat wasn't berti, who sat over there?
Bertram Jacobus: oops ? i leave ?
Bertram Jacobus: hehe. yes ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Musical cushions
Wol Euler: dunno why I thought that was you
Bertram Jacobus: hehe. human failures ? ... ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Of which there are many
Bertram Jacobus: it´s a part of us, an aspect ...
Bertram Jacobus: so to say -
Wol Euler: I err, therefore I am
Bertram Jacobus: *giggle*
Agatha Macbeth: Err...
Bertram Jacobus: how´s your live currently wol ? much work again ?
Wol Euler: alas no, almost nothing to do
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Wol Euler: we have one small house project, that's the only paid job at the moment
Agatha Macbeth: No wonder you're falling asleep
Wol Euler: hehehe
Wol Euler: so we are doing competitions and hoping
Wol Euler: we have stuff in the pipeline, with indefinite dates
Bertram Jacobus: so - the usual architecs life ?
Wol Euler: yep
Agatha Macbeth: Is there a slump in the architect business now?
Bertram Jacobus: :-))
Wol Euler: feast followed by famine
Wol Euler: I don't know, it has been down for a long while. I'm not sure if the state now has worsened
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: The building trade seems to me one which has been least affected by recession
Bertram Jacobus: did i tell already that fee's (ma gf) best gf commited suicide two weeks ago ? ... *sigh*
Wol Euler: oh damn, no I didn't know
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Wol Euler: my condolences
Bertram Jacobus: tyvm ...
--BELL--1445
Bertram Jacobus: you may know or not : i lost my only brother many years ago - so i have some impressions how such feels ...
Bertram Jacobus: i felt for two weeks as if the world would stand still ...
Wol Euler: are you comfortable with this going into the log, berti?
Bertram Jacobus: i thought about it - handle it as you like - but ... i think ... i would like to see that in the log ...
Agatha Macbeth: OK
Wol Euler: okay :)
Bertram Jacobus: because that are the real important things -
Bertram Jacobus: and i find it sad when we often only have so to say smoothed versions of our realities
Agatha Macbeth: I would agree
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: But 'edit' is always a useful standby ;)
Bertram Jacobus: now, slowly, live begins to go on for her ... and me as a close person ...
Wol Euler reaches over and gives your hand a squeeze
Bertram Jacobus: sure - when there are people who want to edit something, that is not illegitim ately
Bertram Jacobus: and she canceled her job now ...
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Bertram Jacobus: what may be a good decision ...
Bertram Jacobus: it was a bit heavy ...
Agatha Macbeth: Not surprising
Wol Euler nods.
Bertram Jacobus: no. some things came together ...
Bertram Jacobus: but we can learn from everything (!) ...
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: well, give her my regards and my encouragement, please
Agatha Macbeth: Me too
Bertram Jacobus: i learned from the sudden death of my young brother the truth of fugacity, very intense
Bertram Jacobus: yes. ty. when i will have a situation to tell her from our talk here ...
Wol Euler: of course
Wol Euler: it won't be the first thing on her mind :) nor should it be
Bertram Jacobus: as said, she is more hidden and so i always have to see, how i can slowly show her that my openness is ... good (!) ...
Bertram Jacobus: we learn so much with each other !
Agatha Macbeth: Good
Bertram Jacobus: it´s wonderful and really special
Bertram Jacobus: we want to stay together for our whole life - we both have never felt such before ...
Wol Euler: awwww
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: I'm pleased to hear it
Bertram Jacobus: ty :-))
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Bertram Jacobus: amazing and astonishing at the same time ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Anyways kiddiwinks...
Wol Euler: yeah, me too
Agatha Macbeth: Think I'll call it a day
Wol Euler: nearly midnight
Bertram Jacobus: byee dear aggers ! *wave* ...
Wol Euler: goodnight aggers, take care
Wol Euler: bye berti, and bye fee, be kind to each other
Agatha Macbeth: Hope you and GF will be ok Berti
Bertram Jacobus: :-)))
Bertram Jacobus: ty ! :-)
Wol Euler: gutes nächtle!
Agatha Macbeth: May all beings be happy :)
Agatha Macbeth: Schlaf gut
Bertram Jacobus: ty, both ... :-)9
Wol Euler: euch auch
Agatha Macbeth waves
Wol Euler: ♥
Agatha Macbeth: ♥
Bertram Jacobus: so kind ...