The Guardian for this meeting was Santoshima Resident. The comments are by Santoshima Resident.

DR42 Resident: 's current display-name is "Marjorie Chardin".
Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
DR42 Resident: Hello Bruce.
Bruce Mowbray: Hello,Marjorie.
DR42 Resident: "Maude" is fine.
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!

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Bruce Mowbray: "Maude" is will be!
DR42 Resident: My name is Dame Marjorie Chardin, but please, call me Maude. All my friends do..
Bruce Mowbray: Have you noticed that at the top of the hour, the "Silet for 90 secs niotice doesn't come up in the chat box?
DR42 Resident: That is a line from the movie "Harold and Maude", IIRC.
Bruce Mowbray: Silent for 90 sec."
Bruce Mowbray: OH ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITES!!!!
DR42 Resident: Yes, I did.
Bruce Mowbray: Absolutely loved her in that role.
Bruce Mowbray: and Bud Cort, too!
DR42 Resident: and some times the line does not turn bright red.
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: I've been thinking about that movie this week ...
DR42 Resident: I even have a copy of the script for the movie, some place.
Bruce Mowbray: I hve a DVD of the movie...
DR42 Resident: Me, too.
Bruce Mowbray: (trying to think of the actresses name ... slips my mind at the moment).
Bruce Mowbray: help me out, here.
DR42 Resident: Ruth Gordon.
Bruce Mowbray: OH YES!!!!
Bruce Mowbray: [`·.] APPLAUSE!! [.·´]
Bruce Mowbray: [`·.] APPLAUSE!! [.·´]
Bruce Mowbray: Remember the scene in which she does nude posing for a sculptor?
DR42 Resident: That is why I picked the name "Maude"
Bruce Mowbray: The scultor's name was Malchus.
DR42 Resident: yES, i THINK i HAVE THE WHOLE THING MEMORIZED. :)
DR42 Resident: sorry
Bruce Mowbray: and this week I've been doing a study of the Gospel of John — and the Roman soldier whos ear Peter cut off./..
Bruce Mowbray: was named MALCHUS!!!
Bruce Mowbray: and that made me think of Harold and Maude.
Bruce Mowbray: I love it when she tells the cop he's "so efficious."
DR42 Resident: officious?
Bruce Mowbray: When she and Harold rescue th potted tree.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes Officious.
Bruce Mowbray: sry.
Bruce Mowbray: She rescues the potted tree and replants it in the forest, remember?
DR42 Resident: Yes. I think I like it best when he does the chop job on the XKE.
DR42 Resident: In the script, the car was a simple MGB.
Bruce Mowbray: Cooool. Turns it into a hearse.
Bruce Mowbray: I can see it now!
DR42 Resident: The XKE is one of my favourite cars of all time. I lusted after one.
Bruce Mowbray: Also the music in the movie is cool --- Cat Stevens.
Bruce Mowbray: I loved the Jag, also!
DR42 Resident: I once drove an XKE from my home to a sportscar race, and averaged 90 MPH, and about 1/3rd of that was on local roads.
Bruce Mowbray: OMG!
DR42 Resident: It was at 4, 5 AM.
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm. Well, you were probably the only one on the roads at that hour.
Bruce Mowbray: Speaking of late hours...
DR42 Resident: Thankfully.
Bruce Mowbray: I've just put on some coffee - which I hope will keep me awake long enough to see some cool meteors tonight.
DR42 Resident: Ah, it was overcast here last night.
Bruce Mowbray: Looks like it might get that way here tonight, but so far so good.
Bruce Mowbray: bright sun.
Bruce Mowbray: I will check the forecase.
Bruce Mowbray: Might not need to stay up so late.
Bruce Mowbray: forecast*
DR42 Resident: "Mainly Clear, low of 50." (F)
Bruce Mowbray: hmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: Is that for SL?
DR42 Resident: I wish. No, it means I might turn the stove up some.
Bruce Mowbray: yes, 50's a coolish.
Bruce Mowbray: a strange August, huh?
DR42 Resident: Yep, and July was wicked hot.
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: I have a friend in Anchorage — and they had the hottest summer ever up there.
Bruce Mowbray: There were days that were hotter up there than it was in southern Ohio.
DR42 Resident: Yea, I have one up in Nome, she spends 6 months a year up there, the other 6 in Fairbanks.
Bruce Mowbray: Oh COOOOL!
Bruce Mowbray: I really loved visiting Fairbanks.
Bruce Mowbray: riding the riverboat.
DR42 Resident: She is a geologist for the oil companies. Works up on the north slope. Way too cold for me.
Bruce Mowbray: oh — too cold for me, also.
Bruce Mowbray: 60 below zero is normal for Fairbanks in the winter.
Bruce Mowbray: I'm going to slip into the kitchen and get some coff now. brb.

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DR42 Resident: brb
Bruce Mowbray: kk.
DR42 Resident: Back
DR42 Resident: What about music for movies, what is your fav?
Bruce Mowbray: I just realized that if one's sun setting is "midnight" and one looks straight up, one can see a full moon through the top of the playgoda. (wonders if it's always a full moon ...)
Bruce Mowbray: with clouds going by ...
DR42 Resident: Yes, it is always full, some people have filed a JIRA in the past, asking LL to fix that to correctly have moon phases.
Bruce Mowbray: Really!?
Bruce Mowbray: That's cool.
Bruce Mowbray: moon phases.
Bruce Mowbray: I have a friend who is very much affected by moon phases, or so he claims.
DR42 Resident: Well, LL hasn't fixed in inthe last 6 years. :(
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Bruce Mowbray: Seems to me that wouldn't be difficult to fix, actually.
Bruce Mowbray: What is an SL day? four hours?
DR42 Resident: Yea, but I rather have them fix actual bugs rather than introduce new ones. Unfortunately, the seem to do the later just fine on their own.
DR42 Resident: Yea, think so.
DR42 Resident: maybe 6.
Bruce Mowbray: yeah, it's either four or six ... one of those.
Bruce Mowbray: Just this week I learned what "in the sixth hour" means in the Bible ...
Bruce Mowbray: (in the Rabbinic tradition, I mean.)
Bruce Mowbray: I always thought that it meant six hours after midnight...
Bruce Mowbray: but that's wayyyy wrong.
Bruce Mowbray: The rabbinic day is only daylight...
Bruce Mowbray: and the hours are always 12 ...
Bruce Mowbray: and always equal.
DR42 Resident: So, 6th hour is mid day.
Bruce Mowbray: so in the winter, the length of the hours is shorter than in the summer.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, sixth hour is 6/12 of the daylight.
DR42 Resident: 11th hour is just before Sunset.
Bruce Mowbray: each day is 12 equal parts.
Bruce Mowbray: and the length of those varies..
Bruce Mowbray: depending on season and geographic location.
Bruce Mowbray: so, your friend in Nome...
Bruce Mowbray: would have NO hours in the winters,
Bruce Mowbray: and 2-hour long hours in the summer!
DR42 Resident wonders what 6th hour means north of the Artic Circle.
Bruce Mowbray: exactly!
Bruce Mowbray: either all day or all night!
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Hol.../calendar.html
DR42 Resident: I could never live in a place like that, even if it were not so cold.

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Bruce Mowbray: In rabbinical thinking, the hour (שָׁעָה) is calculated by taking the total time of daylight (from sunrise until sunset) of a particular day and dividing it into 12 equal parts. This is called sha'ah zemanit, or a "proportional hour." Since the duration of daylight varies according to seasons of the year, a proportionate hour will therefore vary by season. The "sixth hour of the day" does not mean 6:00 a.m. or even six 60 minute hours after sunrise, but is the 6th proportionate hour of the 12 that are counted for the day in question.
DR42 Resident: Written by a people who never were north of the artic circle. :)
Bruce Mowbray: for sure!
Bruce Mowbray: When I visited the University of Alaska at Fairbanks...
Bruce Mowbray: I was amazed at the vegetation...
Bruce Mowbray: since the days are so long in the summer.
Bruce Mowbray: the plants get more sun, of course, and so grow much larger.
DR42 Resident: Short growing season, but really intense.
Bruce Mowbray: enormous flowers and vegetables.
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, really intense.
Bruce Mowbray: It HAS to have some effect on humans, I suppose.
Bruce Mowbray: I think I'd get depresed without sunlight for so long.
Bruce Mowbray: depressed*
DR42 Resident: Daylight lamps. lots of Daylight lamps.
Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, lots and lot of them!
Santoshima Resident: hello you two
Bruce Mowbray: I know folks right here in Ohio who need those lamps...
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, San!
DR42 Resident: Hi San
Santoshima Resident: hey and hi! pleases continue ... sorry to be late
Bruce Mowbray: Oh, we're talking about all sorts of things ...
Bruce Mowbray: from the movie Harold and Maude,
Bruce Mowbray: to moon phases,
Bruce Mowbray: to temperatures in Alaska..
Bruce Mowbray: all sorts of stuff.
Bruce Mowbray: very ecclectic, today.
Bruce Mowbray: Did you see HAROL AND MAUDE?
Bruce Mowbray: AROLD AND MAUDE.
Santoshima Resident: yes!!
Bruce Mowbray: HAROLD*
Santoshima Resident: harold
Santoshima Resident: and maude
Santoshima Resident: a wonderful film
Bruce Mowbray: (too much coffee for my typist!!)
Bruce Mowbray: YES!
Santoshima Resident: bud cort
Bruce Mowbray: one of my all-time favorites.
Santoshima Resident: (maybe not spelled right
Santoshima Resident: and
Bruce Mowbray: Ruth Gordon, too.
Santoshima Resident: who played maude ...
Bruce Mowbray: You spelled it right.
Santoshima Resident: yes!
Bruce Mowbray: Bud Cort.
DR42 Resident: Ruth Gordon
Santoshima Resident: great together
Bruce Mowbray: indeed.
DR42 Resident: And what was her name in the movie?
Santoshima Resident: maude
Santoshima Resident: :)
Bruce Mowbray: MAUDE!
DR42 Resident: Marjorie Chardin.
Bruce Mowbray: and his name was Harold.
Bruce Mowbray: But what was the name of the sculptor...?
DR42 Resident: My name is Dame Marjorie Chardin, but please, call me Maude. All my friends do..
Bruce Mowbray: now I'm thinking that it was Glaucus, not Malchus.
Bruce Mowbray: will have to watch the movie and get that right.
Santoshima Resident: maude was a proponent of oatstraw tea, life and love. harold, depression and suicide
Bruce Mowbray: Yes!
Bruce Mowbray: and chopping up XKE's
Bruce Mowbray: turning them into hearses.
Santoshima Resident: right
Bruce Mowbray: a brlliant movie.
Bruce Mowbray: When I lived in Berkeley, we used to go down to the Emerville mudflats and make driftwood sculpture ... and they showed some of that in the movie.
Bruce Mowbray: Emeryville*
Santoshima Resident: oh, very good ... got a pic?
DR42 Resident: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zj6bfx9etl...nd%20Maude.odt The script for the movie. (Open Office format)
Bruce Mowbray: Now, I'd have to pull out the DVD..
Bruce Mowbray: I don't have a pic of the stuff we used to make, either -- that was 45 years ago.
Bruce Mowbray: Wow! THANKS, Maude!
DR42 Resident: np
Bruce Mowbray: What program should I use to open an ODT file, Maude?
DR42 Resident: Open Office. It is a replacement for Microsoft office, but runs on everything, and is free.
Bruce Mowbray: Oh sure, I forgot.
Bruce Mowbray: kk, can do that!
Bruce Mowbray: I've done Open Office before..
Santoshima Resident: fun reading scripts, better than seeing the movie in some ways
Bruce Mowbray: yes.

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Bruce Mowbray: like books are almost always better than the movies made from them.
Santoshima Resident: an example. please?
Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm....
Bruce Mowbray: well, they are different genres, so it's not fair to compare.
Santoshima Resident: one you like
Bruce Mowbray: Huckleberry Finn.
DR42 Resident: But there are differences that you can pick opt, like in "Holy Grail", the ending in the script is very different than in the actual movie.
Bruce Mowbray: hmmm.
Bruce Mowbray: The Divinci Code also comes to mind.
Bruce Mowbray: One case of the movie being superior to the book, I thought, was THE REINCARNATION OF PETER PROUD.
Bruce Mowbray: The movie was FAR better than the book.
Santoshima Resident: looking up ...
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073615/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
DR42 Resident: It is rare that the movie is better than the book, in a book, you have so much more time to develop the characters.
Bruce Mowbray: Haven't read the screenplay - only the novel.
DR42 Resident: The only Movie that I have seen that does the book any justice is "To Kill a Mockingbird."
Bruce Mowbray: Agreed, Maude. Books seem to connect with a larger experience than movies do. . . Movies are more narrowly focused, usually.
DR42 Resident: "To Kill..." is my favoutite all time book and my favourite all time movie.
Bruce Mowbray: Oh wow!
Bruce Mowbray: I used to teach that novel....
Bruce Mowbray: and the kids really loved it.
Bruce Mowbray: Atticus Finch.
Bruce Mowbray: Jeb and Scout.
DR42 Resident: It's the first book I ever read twice, just for fun.
Bruce Mowbray: Boo Radley.
Bruce Mowbray ponders the first books his typist ever read. . . for fun....
DR42 Resident: "Tom Swift...."
Bruce Mowbray: The first book my typist EVER read was: TOBY TYLER or TEN WEEKS WITH THE CIRCUS.
Bruce Mowbray: he cried and cried when the pet monkey died.
DR42 Resident: I was a science geek, way back when.
Bruce Mowbray: That's good, Maude ...
Bruce Mowbray: it acquainted you with a lot of information ... many connections, there.
Bruce Mowbray: curiosity ...
Bruce Mowbray: a good thing.
DR42 Resident: Socially distancing.
Bruce Mowbray: That reminds me ---- Tonight will be the peak of the Period Meteor shower.
Santoshima Resident: right!
Bruce Mowbray 's typist is a hermit, so he prefers a bit of social distancing.
Bruce Mowbray: Persiod*
Bruce Mowbray slaps his typist.. Every time he types that word he gets it wrong.
Santoshima Resident: a book recommendation, before leaving?
Bruce Mowbray: hmmmmm .....
DR42 Resident: "When Things Fall Apart"
Santoshima Resident: perhaps one you'd like to see as a movie
Bruce Mowbray: Ahh by Pema Chodron.
Santoshima Resident: ah
Santoshima Resident: ty
DR42 Resident: Yes
Bruce Mowbray: Her writings are excellent.
Bruce Mowbray: I'm going to shove off to Berti's meditation now.
Bruce Mowbray: May you both be safe and happy.
DR42 Resident: kk
Santoshima Resident: The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz
DR42 Resident: Travel safe
Santoshima Resident: bye for now ~
Santoshima Resident: going back to the garden digging

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