2010.10.04 01:00 - Entity and non-duality

The Guardian for this meeting was Cosmicflower Ushimawa. The comments are by Cosmicflower Ushimawa.

Bertram Jacobus: good morning cosma :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: good morning Bert
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I was about to log off, thougt no one would come
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: glad you came :)
Bertram Jacobus: oh. sry. hope, i do not detain you !?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: detain?
Liza Deischer: hi Bert and Cos :)
Bertram Jacobus: yes - could you look it up in your dictionary plz perhaps ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hi Liza
Bertram Jacobus: and hi liza ! :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: nice to see you
Bertram Jacobus: good morning ! :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, I stay because you two came lol
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it was silent first half an hour
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Liza Deischer: ah,okay
Bertram Jacobus: that is what i meant - is that ok for you cosma ? still staying a bit ?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sue, yesss
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sure
Bertram Jacobus: great. but what would you do, when you log off ?! :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: go to bed
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smiling
Bertram Jacobus: whaow ! napping a bit !?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yess
Bertram Jacobus: lol okay :-))
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smiling
Bertram Jacobus: and liza - new jeans ? :-)
Liza Deischer: haven't you been sleeping well cos
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: last nigt maby 7 hours
Liza Deischer: hmmmm, don't wear it much :)
Bertram Jacobus: hehe. okay :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but that flu gave up on me
Liza Deischer: oh, you have that flu, nasty
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and now came back with hurting my huge muscles
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: :D
Bertram Jacobus: hello zen - good morning ! :-)
Liza Deischer: hi Zen :)
Zen Arado: Good morning everyone
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Zen ;)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Nice to see you
Bertram Jacobus: that flu seems to travel over whole europe lol
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
Liza Deischer: yes
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: they are fast... those viruses :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but
Liza Deischer: I'm afraid flu spreads easily
Zen Arado: I get a vaccination
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I got them herbs
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
Liza Deischer: hehehe
Liza Deischer: one side vaccination, other side herbs :)
Bertram Jacobus: yes. especially this one. quick and very agile ;-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehheh
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smiling
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: i made at morning also cure to them muscles
Bertram Jacobus: sometimes i think, the pharma industrie produces them lol ... ;o)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: actually to my shoulders
Liza Deischer: hehehe
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hot water
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and sea salt
Liza Deischer: well some virusses do escape, I'm sure
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: to towel
Bertram Jacobus: would be a great deal lol - much money, nice income :o)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and to put the towel on hurt muscle
Liza Deischer: relaxing...... :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: doctors and pharmacy are married
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: :D
Zen Arado: flu is bad if you are weak already
Liza Deischer: an interesting couple
Liza Deischer: yes it is, flu can be pretty mean
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe, yes indeed
Zen Arado: I can just about get up from bed at the moment
Bertram Jacobus: and i´m facinated about the diversity of those virusses : all are different, the symptomes always are different, but also when one is traveling, you can say exactly : it will go so and so, shows these symptomes in that order, x days long etc. - when you know it already
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: both gets strenght from each others
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: :)
Liza Deischer: but then you already have the flu Zen?
Zen Arado: there was a big scare last year but the flu didn't happen
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, simo woke up, will go to give him food. brb
Bertram Jacobus: ah yes. also a quite strange thing ...
Liza Deischer: the big flu no
Zen Arado: no I haven't had flu for 20 years or more
Bertram Jacobus: ok cosma
Bertram Jacobus: hello arch ! :-)
Liza Deischer: ah,now I understand
Liza Deischer: it is getting busy :)
Zen Arado: but if I got weaker from flu I would be scared
Liza Deischer: yes, I understand Zen
Zen Arado: that's why I get vaccination
Liza Deischer: it took a while though
Liza Deischer: hi Arch :)
Zen Arado: hi Arch
--BELL--
Bertram Jacobus: and why do you wear a beatles t shirt zen ? :-)
Bertram Jacobus: [oops]
Archmage Atlantis: Heym, hey , hey.....good enriries here
Zen Arado: ha - I changed to viewer yesterday for a while and it changed my clothes
Archmage Atlantis: Gotta find better glasses
Zen Arado: viewer 2 I mean
Liza Deischer: yes V2 is doing that
Zen Arado: but I like the Beatles too
Liza Deischer: well to me Arch you are still a cloud
Bertram Jacobus: what are enriries !? entities arch ? ;o)
Archmage Atlantis: I gave v2 a long test
Liza Deischer: black looks better on you Zen :)
Archmage Atlantis: I am usingin phoenixs now
Bertram Jacobus: entity is a strange word to me ... not very clear ... bit nebulous ... ;-)
Zen Arado: I was rtying to find a place yesterday and the slurl started v2
Liza Deischer: yes
Zen Arado: Urban Guru Cafe
Archmage Atlantis: Entities are beings who unerstand they are beings
Liza Deischer: that is the default
Liza Deischer: but you can change that
Bertram Jacobus: whaow - do you others also have that understanding of the meaning of the word "entity" ?
Zen Arado: it only said it was going to start v2 so I started it myself
Zen Arado: actually it didn't - it started Phoenix
Liza Deischer: :)
Liza Deischer: entity is not a word to me that is pretty clear
Zen Arado: an entity is something we aren't I think :)
Liza Deischer: but I can imagine the definition Arch just gave
Archmage Atlantis: Ok, phonix wing time
Bertram Jacobus: interesting ... :-)
Bertram Jacobus: and zen : were you at that guru cafe ? and if so , what is it , plz ? :-)
Zen Arado: it is a place where they talk about non duality
Bertram Jacobus: heyy cal ! good morning ! :-)
Liza Deischer: hi Cal :)
Zen Arado: http://urbangurucafe.com/
Zen Arado: Hi Cal :)
Bertram Jacobus: non duality ... that is always the topic there ?
Zen Arado: yes I thnk so
Liza Deischer: interesting
Calvino Rabeni: Did someone say non-duality?
Bertram Jacobus: ty for the link ...
Archmage Atlantis: If I say I am only part human, does that have meaning?
Liza Deischer: I should have a look there
Calvino Rabeni: Hello, hmmm all my favorite people :)
Bertram Jacobus: hehe. yes cal. zthat was zen ... :o)
Liza Deischer: when do they meet Zen ?
Bertram Jacobus points at him :o)
Zen Arado: Darryl Bailey's talk was interesting
Zen Arado: they had a meeting yesterday at 6am SLT
Bertram Jacobus: i don´t know arch - may be you can say a bit more about that ? plz ?
Zen Arado: they have one during the week but at 7pm SLT I think
Liza Deischer: and that was with Darryl Bailey?
Liza Deischer: oh, bad time for me
Archmage Atlantis: tiger, tiger, burning bright, in the forest of the night
Zen Arado: no with an American guy
Zen Arado: I asked him a lot of questions
Zen Arado: ason something
Zen Arado: Jason
Zen Arado: bad time for Europeans
Bertram Jacobus: (whaow - arch rezzed finally) ! :-)
Archmage Atlantis: One's mind is many
Liza Deischer: yes, in the middle of the night
Zen Arado: but 6am one is ok
Zen Arado: it's just my current interest
Liza Deischer: yes 6 am is okay
Liza Deischer: is mine interest too :)
Liza Deischer: of any Buddhist I guess
Zen Arado: I can give LM if you are interested
Bertram Jacobus: and yes arch - in hermann hesse´s "steppenwolf" that is a strong and metioned point, put into very nice pictures - the multiplicity of humans ! ...
Liza Deischer: sure, would like that
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: back
Liza Deischer: thanks
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Cos, flower
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Arch and Cal <3<3<3
Zen Arado: wb Cos :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
Calvino Rabeni: <3<3<3 Cosmicflower :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: read them lines
Bertram Jacobus: wb cosma :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ty
Bertram Jacobus: and non duality ... hmmm ... so seemingly paradox : talking and reading and thinking about it, dealing with it , no ? but i agree : can be very and really entertaining ! (?) :-)
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: It amuses me....that all we are able to conceive is duality, or non
Archmage Atlantis: Triality
Archmage Atlantis: Auadality
Zen Arado: oneness
Archmage Atlantis: Duodecality
Archmage Atlantis: all exist
Zen Arado: oneness without a second they say
Bertram Jacobus: to me it´s not knowing
Liza Deischer: what is not knowing?
Zen Arado: or not clinging to knowing
Bertram Jacobus: i can´t be sure finally is my impression
Zen Arado: I have to go and do my shopping
Liza Deischer: if there is non-duality, it is both knowing and not knowing
Zen Arado: bye all
Liza Deischer: bye Zen
Bertram Jacobus: not knowing is an impression that all could be different to that what i experience and think liza
Zen Arado: thanks for discussion
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: bye Zen
Bertram Jacobus: bey zen -
Archmage Atlantis: Zen, in a wheelchair?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Good to see You
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: looks at dictionary "duality"
Liza Deischer: yes, he hasa desease on his muscles
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah
Liza Deischer: since birth, is slowly getting worse
Bertram Jacobus: and he has helpers who come - may be he "goes" out with such a person ...
Liza Deischer: but you should ask Zen about it :)
Archmage Atlantis: I so also Lisa
Liza Deischer: in a wheelchair Arch?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: so, we all have pain in our muscles here
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: LOL
Liza Deischer: :)
Archmage Atlantis: No, only a cane for now
Bertram Jacobus: hehe lol. yes ! me too - but only a little i "must admit" (?) ;-)
Liza Deischer: ok
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smiling ;)
Liza Deischer: I've got loads to do, so need to go
Bertram Jacobus: ok bye liza have a nice day ! *wave*
Liza Deischer: bye everyone, se you all :)
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Archmage Atlantis: Bye Lisa
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Bye Liza
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3<3<3
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: on the log
Bertram Jacobus: ;-)
Archmage Atlantis: So, my best PAb friends
Archmage Atlantis: well, except Bruce
Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3<3<3 I love You too Arch ;)
Archmage Atlantis: I think I am supposed to reply in sanskrt
Archmage Atlantis: But German wil have to do......Ich liebe ich
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sanskrt
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
Bertram Jacobus: hehe - love is all around ? ...
Bertram Jacobus: and which kind of love may it be ? philia or agape ? or even eros ? ;-)
Calvino Rabeni: those are all 1
Archmage Atlantis: Not eros.......that is confusing
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smiling
Calvino Rabeni: for nondualists:)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: i feel too not to separate them
Bertram Jacobus: confusing !? interesting point ! ... hm ... :-)
--BELL--
Archmage Atlantis: Back in the beginning of thought, when we became more than only animals
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3<3<3
Bertram Jacobus: i think "animal" and "human" are words ... but i don´t see, that a human shall be more specific as for example a dolphin (?)
Archmage Atlantis: Back to the definition of entities.......
Bertram Jacobus: being aware ...
Archmage Atlantis: Life with a knowing it is life
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: dolpins are beatifull
Archmage Atlantis: As are Orca
Bertram Jacobus: on the one hand i don´t like so much the human idea being very special and in this way also seperated. on the other ... as i said before : i feel unknowing ... at least in a way - but : feeling good is the most important to me. and this for all beings
Archmage Atlantis: Yet, Orca devour flesh.....dolphin devour fish
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: goes to change pants for simo :) he is talking to You very much ;) siting on my arms
Archmage Atlantis: Are we able to design a more loving world that was given to us?
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: nowstarted to smell a bit ***
Bertram Jacobus: so - if ones "insights" lead somebody to a good feeling and behaviour, to ethics and so on - which ever his "insights" may be - that is ok to me ...
Bertram Jacobus: hehe lol hy simo ! ;-)
Archmage Atlantis: I love that Simo comes to hear in the circle with you Cos
Bertram Jacobus: and yes arch - i think at least we can try to love and that myay help
Archmage Atlantis: Poopy and all
Bertram Jacobus: yesterday i read for instance a wonderful word from the dalai lama : it doesn´t matter if somebody believes in rebirth or in religions. but everybody appreciates loving kindness and compassion (!) ...
Archmage Atlantis: I suppose I could change diapers, (ugh), if I loved someone.....like my mm an ad
Bertram Jacobus: i like to become able to do such for all
Bertram Jacobus: and another idea i associate to your point (make the world a bit better) is : we should be aware how much even little actions cause big reactions (!) ...
Bertram Jacobus: and i again and again forget that ... sadly ... but then remeber again ... and so on ...
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think i will go to bed now to have a day dream with Simo
Archmage Atlantis: You are a good entity, Bert
Bertram Jacobus: okay cosma - sounds wonderful - i think you will enjoy that ! :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: heh yes I di :)
Bertram Jacobus: :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: do
Bertram Jacobus: so cu later :-))
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yess
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: enjoy all
Bertram Jacobus: and ty ! for your having been here ! ... :-)
Archmage Atlantis: yes, time to go and reflect
Calvino Rabeni: And I as well .. TC all :)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: :)
Bertram Jacobus: yes. i agree - bye all ... :-)
Cosmicflower Ushimawa: bye
Bertram Jacobus: ty all -
Calvino Rabeni: bye
Archmage Atlantis: Bye Cal