2010.10.06 13:00 - O Si Yo

The Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.

Barcalona Rhapsody: hi fefonz
Fefonz Quan: Hello Barce
Barcalona Rhapsody: i think we never met before
Barcalona Rhapsody: or once
Fefonz Quan: I think we did shortly, in my previous session
Fefonz Quan: ("my") :)
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Barcalona Rhapsody: our
Fefonz Quan: yep
Barcalona Rhapsody: i like it here
Fefonz Quan: me too. for quite a long time now...
Barcalona Rhapsody: nice people and relaxed communication style
Fefonz Quan: indeed
Barcalona Rhapsody: with respect and humor
Barcalona Rhapsody: what are your interests today ?
Fefonz Quan: could you rephrase?
Barcalona Rhapsody: what are your intersts today ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: interests
Barcalona Rhapsody: items ?
Fefonz Quan: the identical rephrasing, hmmm...
Barcalona Rhapsody: issues ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: what u mean ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: rephrasing ?
Fefonz Quan: i think i have a slight language problem here,
Fefonz Quan: (not being a native english speaker)
Barcalona Rhapsody: me too
Barcalona Rhapsody: i am dutch
Fefonz Quan: I thought rephrasing is saying something in different words, not the same
Freud Jungsten: O si yo.
Fefonz Quan: Hello Freud
Freud Jungsten: How be you today?
Barcalona Rhapsody: hi freud
Fefonz Quan: great, and you?
Barcalona Rhapsody: good thnx
Fefonz Quan: have you been here before Freud?
Freud Jungsten: Was busy for a bit.... but now the office has quited down a bit.... so some time for SL.
Freud Jungsten: I have.
Freud Jungsten: You?
Barcalona Rhapsody: we never met before freud
Fefonz Quan: good thanks, we haven't met so i should ask it considering the recording etc.
Freud Jungsten: As normal, please do.... smiles
Fefonz Quan: I have, for almost 2 years now
Barcalona Rhapsody: what is your mother language ? fefonz ?
Fefonz Quan: hebrew
Freud Jungsten: Only stopped by here for eth last month or so.
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Freud Jungsten: Tsalagi.
Barcalona Rhapsody: intersting
Freud Jungsten: Oh sorry.
Fefonz Quan: what is tsalagi?
Freud Jungsten: Cherokee.
Fefonz Quan: ah, i see.
Freud Jungsten: Native American Language.
Barcalona Rhapsody: indian ?
Barcalona Rhapsody: african ?
Freud Jungsten: native American.
Barcalona Rhapsody: intersting i am native dutch
Freud Jungsten: Lol.. and us all talking in English...
Fefonz Quan ain't sure it's the sme...
Barcalona Rhapsody: so we may thank columbus
Barcalona Rhapsody: and our teachers English
Freud Jungsten: Thinking Colmubus would prety much get your beat up in my crowd, so lets not please.
Barcalona Rhapsody: sorry
Barcalona Rhapsody: and dutch kolonists neither ?
Fefonz Quan: ( i thought so too)
Freud Jungsten: lol.. ANcient History though really.
Barcalona Rhapsody: maybe i have to listen
Barcalona Rhapsody: lets talk about future
Fefonz Quan: you should know Freud that mostly we are more polite here
Freud Jungsten: OK.
Fefonz Quan: ;-)
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Freud Jungsten: THere are just certian things that I must comment on.
Freud Jungsten: But I will be polite when I do....
Freud Jungsten: Or at least ry.
Freud Jungsten: try
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok
Fefonz Quan: (I didn't mean that YOU were impolite)
Barcalona Rhapsody: no it was me
Freud Jungsten: OH OK..
Fefonz Quan: yep
Freud Jungsten: SOrry, I miss subtletees in English a bit.
Barcalona Rhapsody: ok sorry
Freud Jungsten: SO did I interupt?
Barcalona Rhapsody: not
Fefonz Quan: no, not at all.
--BELL--
Fefonz Quan: infact we just started, and no specific subject of discussion was on the air
Agatha Macbeth: Hi guys
Freud Jungsten: O si yo Wol, Agatha.
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed :)
Barcalona Rhapsody: sure
Fefonz Quan: (Hi Agatha, Wol)
Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Wol :))
Wol Euler waves silent.y
Barcalona Rhapsody: hi ladies
Freud Jungsten: I have never been here for a realy in depth discusion so far.
Agatha Macbeth waves silent.y back
Freud Jungsten: Alwasy been casual chat, wich is fine by me.
Freud Jungsten: So what are the normal topcis?
Agatha Macbeth: Do we have normal topics?
Fefonz Quan: maybe now that Wol is here, we canhave real discussion instead of just casual chat :)
Wol Euler: heheh
Freud Jungsten: Verbalicious sounds like a verbalicious work Agatha.
Freud Jungsten: word
Agatha Macbeth: Sure is :p
Freud Jungsten: I soooo can't type today... way lagged.
Agatha Macbeth: And work!
Wol Euler nods. The pool is hexagonal for me. Reallllllllllyyy laggy
Agatha Macbeth: I see the lindens are sending us new TOS to sign
Freud Jungsten: Ben a while though.
Barcalona Rhapsody: well i go again bye folks
Wol Euler: yeah, did anyone read it?
Freud Jungsten: Must have goten sued again.
Agatha Macbeth: C ya Barca
Fefonz Quan: Bye Barca
Wol Euler: bye barca, take care
Agatha Macbeth: No, just agreed to it
Wol Euler: the preamble said that the change was related to closing down the XStreet online store
Freud Jungsten: THe changes said something about if you continue to use SL for 30 days after a new TOS, then you pasivly agree.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, tacit consent
Wol Euler: though in point of fact, you cannot log on without agreeing.
Agatha Macbeth: This is true
Freud Jungsten: I thought it strange.
Wol Euler: it is explicit, next time you long on you'll be presented with the dialog
Freud Jungsten: But lawyers have ways of twisting things.
Wol Euler: though it's a strange kind of "choice"
Agatha Macbeth: I'll get me a lawyer next time...
Fefonz Quan: are there SLawyers?
Freud Jungsten: Probably not worth the hygiene and self respect issues that may cuase you.
Agatha Macbeth: Probably :)
Agatha Macbeth: Greenberg and Liebermann rings a bell
Wol Euler: like telling somebody who lives in a penthouse in Manhattan with a huge circle of friends, that they have the choice of moving to a trailer in the middle of the mojave desert
Agatha Macbeth: They might go for it
Freud Jungsten: Moving to a desert sounds good to me.
Agatha Macbeth: Call it a retreat :p
Fefonz Quan: yes, some monk forced monk time
Agatha Macbeth pictures a forced monk
Wol Euler: sure, but don't compare the trailer to your penthouse, nor being alone to a circle of friends
Fefonz Quan: (he, great minds think alike)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, now i get the point Wol
Freud Jungsten: Well, mid you, ther are some mighty fine trainors these days... smiles
Freud Jungsten: trailors
Wol Euler: thinking of the choice: you don'T have to agree to be in SL, you could go off to OpenSim instead
Agatha Macbeth: I never wear 'em
Agatha Macbeth: Some choich eh?
Agatha Macbeth: choice
Wol Euler: yep
Freud Jungsten: WHere what?
Freud Jungsten: Wear what?
Fefonz Quan: or just stay in cruel RL :)
Agatha Macbeth: Trainers
Wol Euler: egad, fef, the worst option of all
Fefonz Quan: yes, cruality itself
Freud Jungsten: Must be missing something.
Agatha Macbeth: I think we all are
Wol Euler: heheh
Freud Jungsten grins
Wol Euler: the multithreaded conversation is coming apart at teh seams
Freud Jungsten: I am missing something chocolate right now.
Agatha Macbeth: Anyway...
Fefonz Quan: Freud, i think this chat is our twisted way to show the nourmous fer we have of being banned out of SL
Fefonz Quan: enormous*
Wol Euler nods
Fefonz Quan: fear*
Agatha Macbeth: yep
Freud Jungsten: Never managed to be banned from SL..
Freud Jungsten: And been in here since 2005.
Fefonz Quan: you see, my subconsciousness doesn't even let me write it down correctly :)
Agatha Macbeth: Well, me either...yet
Freud Jungsten: Had a couple of prifiles die horrible deaths though.
Fefonz Quan: wow, you are a veteran Freud
Freud Jungsten: Joined SL in Fall semester of 05 to do a paper on cybersex.... lol
Fefonz Quan tries to picture horrible SL death
Agatha Macbeth: A vet, yet
Freud Jungsten: Was an eyeopener for sure.
Agatha Macbeth: I can believe it
Fefonz Quan: did you finish up the paper?
Wol Euler: heheh
Freud Jungsten: Imagine an all black AV, groussly miss shappen and a completely unreconizable inventory.
Freud Jungsten: I did... got an A as well.
Wol Euler grins.
Fefonz Quan: nice :)
Freud Jungsten: Was rather annoying... go figure.
Agatha Macbeth: Well i can relate to the inventory at least
Fefonz Quan: maybe some day we'll get paper view
Freud Jungsten: paper view?
Fefonz Quan: yes, indeed tough image of the AV
Freud Jungsten: But all in all, I think SL is a great product.... I really enjoy it despite it's flaws.
Fefonz Quan: (Wol, you can say that i am in charge of the bad word-games here)
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: it's true
Freud Jungsten: bad-worse games?
Fefonz Quan: exactly
Freud Jungsten: Sory, idiums still puzz`le me.
Agatha Macbeth: Idioms?
Freud Jungsten: English spelling also puzzles me.
Freud Jungsten: bad-worse games?
Agatha Macbeth: You should see irish spelling ;-)
Wol Euler: ((this is far too laggy and ugly, I'm going to reboot and try again. back in a bit))
Agatha Macbeth waves
Freud Jungsten: You should see Tsalagi spelling.
Fefonz Quan: laggly
Agatha Macbeth: Does it have its own script?
Freud Jungsten: 84 charaters in our sylibary.
Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
Fefonz Quan: oh, a lot
Fefonz Quan: how many vowels?
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Thx Freud, wow...
Freud Jungsten: THere are essentaly 6 vowels, but they are inherent wiht a concenant to their own character.
Fefonz Quan: thanks Freud
Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
Freud Jungsten: SO there are difernt characters for ci, vi, ri, ti, li, pi etc.
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Yaku
Fefonz Quan: Heyaku!
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey guys
Freud Jungsten: O si yo Yakuzza
Freud Jungsten: ANd gals.... smiles
Fefonz Quan: what is O si yo? hello?
Agatha Macbeth: ty :)
Freud Jungsten: Hello in Tsalagi.
Freud Jungsten: INformal, but not intamate.
Fefonz Quan: it has a nice sound to it
Agatha Macbeth: Thats cute
Freud Jungsten: What is cute?
Agatha Macbeth: INformal, but not intamate.
Agatha Macbeth: (sic)
Freud Jungsten: Wel, in Tsalagi, you don't say hello to a loved one.
Agatha Macbeth: No?
Fefonz Quan: (sic?)
Freud Jungsten: You use ther name.
Freud Jungsten: their
Agatha Macbeth: Right, that's interesting
Freud Jungsten: WEl, that depends really.
Freud Jungsten: I guess some don't.
Freud Jungsten: O si yo Wol.
Wol Euler: hello again
Agatha Macbeth: wb Wol
Fefonz Quan: wb Wol
Wol Euler: ty
Freud Jungsten: There are three recongnized bands of Cherokee and we can not agree on the language..... lol
Agatha Macbeth: Yaku pinched your parking space
Fefonz Quan: sounds like jewish Freud hehe
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe
Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Freud Jungsten: lol.. maybe.
Liza Deischer: hi everyone :)
Wol Euler: hello liza
Freud Jungsten: O si yo Liza.
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liza
Fefonz Quan: Hey Liza
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey liza
Agatha Macbeth: Lot of famous people with cerokee ancestry
Agatha Macbeth: +h
Liza Deischer: I'm glad to see you are yourself today Wol :)
Agatha Macbeth: Elvis, Jimi hendrix, david carradine
Wol Euler: ty :)
Freud Jungsten: If you are from Oklahoma or the Carolinea, you have some cherokee in your family.
Fefonz Quan: have you been someone else lately Wol?
Wol Euler: it's left over from yesterday, there were alts around and tags reading "I'm really X"
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Agatha Macbeth: Silly game
Liza Deischer: :)
Fefonz Quan: ah, interesting. mostly where all of us here are 'no ourselves' in a way
Wol Euler: yeah, I try to keep my alts' lives separate :)
Liza Deischer: hmmmm, not sure Fonz
Agatha Macbeth: Me too, or they argue :p
Wol Euler: right
Freud Jungsten: OH.. I get it.. smiles
Freud Jungsten: I need to make me an alt realy.
Fefonz Quan tries hard not to say 'just don't do shift-alt-del')
Wol Euler: but Freud must be an alt herself if you#ve been in SL since 2005
Agatha Macbeth: What does that do?
Liza Deischer: :) Fonz
Freud Jungsten: My previous AVS died.
Liza Deischer: or dy
Wol Euler: what? how?
Fefonz Quan: i guess it moves the alt left and then delete it...
Freud Jungsten: SO that is why I need and alt, so when Freud dies, I will have somethign to pick up..
Fefonz Quan: sounds like SL reincarnation in action
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe a cultural thing?
Wol Euler: how do avs die? I've never heard of that
Freud Jungsten: My AV wnet all black and misshapen, then the inventory became unreadable.
Wol Euler: oh, I see.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Freud Jungsten: Was a common problem 4 years ago.
Agatha Macbeth: Teething troubles
Liza Deischer: ah okay
Liza Deischer: first time I hear about it
Freud Jungsten: Arcadia Asylum was the most notable victim.
Agatha Macbeth: Me too
Yakuzza Lethecus: i only know that alts can turn out all black :)
Liza Deischer: but then I'm just growing up in sl :)
Agatha Macbeth grins
Fefonz Quan: in what sense was she famous?
Freud Jungsten: She was the most prolific builder int eh first 2 years of SL... one day her alt dies.... bad day for SL.
Yakuzza Lethecus: coming to age in secondlife
Wol Euler: a great book
Freud Jungsten: Check out the Arcadia Asylum group.
Agatha Macbeth searches
Wol Euler: http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Age-Sec.../dp/0691135282
Freud Jungsten: arcadia asylum recovery
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
Liza Deischer: she didn't re-appear in a new incarnation?
--BELL--
Freud Jungsten: Wow.... so lagged, but Agatha and Wol are runnign very hard to draw AVs.. well over 4000 rendering costs.
Freud Jungsten: I don't htink anyone knows.
Agatha Macbeth: That's a real shame
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe she came back incognito?
Wol Euler: I was thinking that
Fefonz Quan: (we tend to keep silence in those 90 sec)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Freud Jungsten: SOrry.. so lagged I was typing before I saw the green lines.
Agatha Macbeth: I didn't even notice the bell
Freud Jungsten: So anyway, in the early days of SL, profiles were not stable.
Fefonz Quan: Think i'll hit the sack, good night all
Wol Euler: 'night fef, sleepwell
Liza Deischer: nit Fonz :)
Liza Deischer: nite
Agatha Macbeth: Careful it doesn't hit you back Fonz
Freud Jungsten: do na da go hv i Fefonz.
Wol Euler: save up on sleep, you gon't get much once the baby is born!
Fefonz Quan: _/!\_
Liza Deischer: baby?
Fefonz Quan: thanks Freud, it sounds like a good way to say it
Liza Deischer: wow
Agatha Macbeth: Fonz is pregnant?
Wol Euler: mmhmm :)
Agatha Macbeth: Good lord
Fefonz Quan: ms. fonz in fact :)
Freud Jungsten: Till we meet again.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Fefonz Quan runs away from this outing here ;-)
Wol Euler: sorry :)
Freud Jungsten: RUn.
Agatha Macbeth: HA!
Freud Jungsten: I soooo need to go for a nice long run this evening.
Fefonz Quan: waves goodbye
Liza Deischer: waves
Agatha Macbeth: Shalom Fonzie
Freud Jungsten: One more hour.
Freud Jungsten: So what is next?
Wol Euler: onigokko
Wol Euler: sotp
Wol Euler: stop
Freud Jungsten: I'M GONNA BE A MONKEY!!!
Agatha Macbeth: Now when did i take that off?
Freud Jungsten: lol
Agatha Macbeth throws freud a banana
Freud Jungsten: Thanks.
Freud Jungsten: Need the potasium.
Freud Jungsten: Thot or chocoate.. of corse.
Wol Euler prefers chocolate
Liza Deischer: or both
Freud Jungsten: Agreed.
Agatha Macbeth: Or chocolate bananas
Freud Jungsten: Just remember, the lack of chocolate is the roote of all evil..
Liza Deischer: with icecream
Agatha Macbeth: And great for your teeth
Freud Jungsten: I cant eat icecream.
Freud Jungsten: Way lactose intollerent.
Wol Euler: :(
Agatha Macbeth: Ouch
Wol Euler: how about sorbet, or yoghurt?
Liza Deischer: isn't that in choclate
Liza Deischer: ?
Freud Jungsten: Or let me rephrase that, I choose nto toeat it fo teh comfort of those that have to be around me 12 hours later... smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Freud Jungsten: When you have to make half your desert lactiad, you are missing the point.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I can see that
Liza Deischer: yes
Freud Jungsten: So, if I may aks, where if everyone from?
Wol Euler: Canadian but I live in Germany
Liza Deischer: Holland
Agatha Macbeth: UK me
Liza Deischer: this is a late night european gathering, most of the time
Freud Jungsten: Oklahoma here, near TUlsa.
Wol Euler: tornado alley?
Freud Jungsten: No, that is more down south of Ardmore.
Freud Jungsten: I have only been in a few up here.
--BELL--
Liza Deischer: I'm going to find out if my bed is still in the same place
Freud Jungsten: lol
Agatha Macbeth: ??
Wol Euler: hehehe
Wol Euler: don't get lost!
Freud Jungsten: OK.... ciao bella.
Agatha Macbeth: Does it walk?
Liza Deischer: by everyone :)
Wol Euler: goodnight, liza
Yakuzza Lethecus: good night liza
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Liza
Liza Deischer: I hope not Wol :)
Freud Jungsten: And I need to get bakc to that RL thing for a bit.
Wol Euler: enjoy :)
Freud Jungsten: do na da go hv i
Yakuzza Lethecus: good night everyone
Agatha Macbeth: Do na...thingy
Wol Euler: goodnight freud, goodnight yaku
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, and er goodnight yaku
Agatha Macbeth blinks
Agatha Macbeth: Did he have an appointment or something?
Wol Euler: nah, just always in a hurry
Wol Euler: AFAIK
Wol Euler: TTBOMKAB
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we scare him :)
Wol Euler: well, yeah :)
Agatha Macbeth: Poor Yaku [grin]
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder if he'll ever find his other shoe?
Wol Euler: isn't there a saying about the shoe falling = acquiring wisdom?
Agatha Macbeth: Never undedrstood that saying
Agatha Macbeth: -d