The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado. Present were Archmage Atlantis, Calvino Rabeni, Darren Islar, Sharry Ragu, LoveWitch Silverfish and myself.

Anxious times:

Zen Arado: Hi Sharry :)
Sharry Ragu: Hi Zen, how are you this find day? :))
Sharry Ragu: fine*
Zen Arado: I'm fine thanks
Zen Arado: who knows what I might find ? :)
Sharry Ragu: hahaha! indeed!! ;)
Sharry Ragu: I am sitting quietly, contemplating my life and wondering at the world around me..
Zen Arado: good thing to do
Sharry Ragu: my daughter is in hospital awaiting the birth of my first grandchild.. she will call me when things pep up, meanwhile I'm relaxed and patient.. funny tho, everyone else around me are buzzing like electricity!! lol
Zen Arado: ah - an anxious time for you
Sharry Ragu: not at all!
Sharry Ragu: I'm extremely relaxed.. waching the anxiety around me
Zen Arado: we seem to add anxiety to events like these
Sharry Ragu: this is what I am noticing
Zen Arado: it all plays out the same whether we worry or not
Sharry Ragu: absolutely *nods and smiles*
Zen Arado: I would tend to anxiety myself
Zen Arado: but not as much now
Sharry Ragu: it will happen, and any raging emotions are not going to change that, so I am just sitting back and enjoying the ride.. things will go as they will
Zen Arado: I know that but still.....
Zen Arado: meditation practice helps tough
Zen Arado: though *
Sharry Ragu: I may add tho, I was not expecting to be this ok about it all ;) lol
Zen Arado: funny the things we worry about
Sharry Ragu: yes! lol
Zen Arado: sometimes insignificant things trigger old worries I think
Sharry Ragu: good point Zen
Sharry Ragu: haha.. and that kinda makes them significant ;)
Archmage Atlantis: Rage is an acceptable emotion......It is even acceptable as a cause of action,,,,,it is not acceptable to me as harmful to others
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: oh Hi Arch didn't see you
Sharry Ragu: hi Archmage :))
Archmage Atlantis: Yea, neither of you did
Sharry Ragu: you snuckted in ;)
Archmage Atlantis: You were both absorbed in a discussion
Zen Arado: my inventory was hiding you :)
Sharry Ragu: my screen was facing Zen :))
Zen Arado: hmmm...acceptable emotions
Archmage Atlantis: How prophetic a statment Zen
Archmage Atlantis: And is this not a place
Sharry Ragu: I wouldn't say that rage was unacceptable, I would consider whether it was helpful
Archmage Atlantis: where to see is to learn?

Emotional responses:

Zen Arado: emotions come from thoughts tho
Zen Arado: generated by them
Zen Arado: no-that's not right
Sharry Ragu: yes, association and unconscious most of the time...
Zen Arado: sometimes they are generated quicker than thoughts too
Sharry Ragu nods
Zen Arado: like a flight or fight response
Sharry Ragu: exactly!
Zen Arado: where immediate action is required
Zen Arado: and our thinking would be too ponderous and slow
Sharry Ragu: however, I think our fight/flight response is linked to our perception.. and each has an individual take
Zen Arado: my teacher gave us a handout about that last week
Zen Arado: the emotional mind
Sharry Ragu: and with thought, the unconscious links much quicker than the neocortex.. so yes, thoughts would be slow and cumbersome.. and this is why it is difficult to 'catch' what triggers us
Zen Arado: kind of an evolutionary trait
Zen Arado: yes
Archmage Atlantis: Yeasur, kinda
Zen Arado: the organisms that took too long to reflect didn't survive
Zen Arado: Hi LOvewitch
LoveWitch Silverweb: hi:)
Zen Arado: have a seat :)
Sharry Ragu waves a hello to Lovewitch
Zen Arado: you been here before?
LoveWitch Silverweb: thank u
LoveWitch Silverweb: this is first time
Zen Arado: ah o k
Zen Arado: well the sessions are recorded and put on a Wiki - are you ok with that?
LoveWitch Silverweb: yes
Zen Arado: ok good
LoveWitch Silverweb: :)
Sharry Ragu: I'm not sure what I think about the evolutionary theory there Zen.. It makes me wonder about different adaptive abilities..
Archmage Atlantis: Do you prefer to be addressed by a name, LWS?
LoveWitch Silverweb: what people like
LoveWitch Silverweb: LW is ok
Archmage Atlantis: As some of us will shorten it
Sharry Ragu: lol.. thanks love ;)
LoveWitch Silverweb: or Love
Sharry Ragu: lol
Archmage Atlantis: Likes both
LoveWitch Silverweb: :) thank u
Sharry Ragu: reminds me of an old tv series.. with General Darling :))
Zen Arado: I knw someone called Sustainable Love Westlands in SL
Zen Arado: but we usually called her Sus :)
Sharry Ragu: hehe.. :))
Zen Arado: it seems to be the speed of response of the emotional mind
Archmage Atlantis: Music on lther sys is "Amie"...Counyin Crows
Archmage Atlantis: poor typping
Zen Arado: but it makes mistakes - sacrifices speed for accuracy
Zen Arado: so we tend to disregard it , like 'that's just an emotional response'
Archmage Atlantis: Amie, what you want to do..fading in the grave....one of usk, botjh of us will see.....Madd Hatter here
Archmage Atlantis: You know why hatters were know as mad?
Zen Arado: Hi Cal :)
Sharry Ragu: see, now I can't disregard.. I find a richness in emotional responses
Calvino Rabeni: Hi zen, Arch, Sharry
Sharry Ragu: Hi Calvino :))
Archmage Atlantis: Heya Calvino
Calvino Rabeni: Mercury poisoning
Sharry Ragu: ??
Archmage Atlantis: No fair, you came in late, Ca;
Zen Arado: yes they used mercury in the process
Archmage Atlantis: Now you have to explain
Calvino Rabeni: I think the mercury was used to press the felt used for hats?
Zen Arado: we were talking anout emotional responses Cal
Sharry Ragu: LOL
Calvino Rabeni: Not sure about that, but it wasn't too good for the hatters
Sharry Ragu: Arch's song ;)
Archmage Atlantis: Spmetjhing goood this way comres
Zen Arado: there seem to be quick and slow paths to emotional responses
Zen Arado: one through perseption the other through reflective thought
Sharry Ragu: hmmm...
Zen Arado: preception*
Zen Arado: perception* :)
Sharry Ragu: yes, I am seeing that.. rumination for instance Zen?
Archmage Atlantis: Do you find one more path valid, Zen?
Zen Arado: yes - that's the bad one maybe
Archmage Atlantis: The quick or the slow?
Sharry Ragu: the not helpful one, I would think ;)
Zen Arado: yes - the fast response is necessary for quick action sometimes
Zen Arado: the slow one seems worse
Zen Arado: the emotion kind of festers?
Sharry Ragu: I find I can make links in moments of reflection that I cannot whilst in action
Zen Arado: yes - rational thought is more accurate
Archmage Atlantis: I yhink yhis is where the gura says "discuss among yousefles?
Zen Arado: but remember reading that emotions are part of reasoning process too
Zen Arado: people who have lost the emotional part of their brain find that they can't reason very well either
Sharry Ragu: yes, dependent upon perception, which is dependent on the the unconscious associations from past experience..
Calvino Rabeni: perception there meaning judgment too
Calvino Rabeni: not just sensing]
Sharry Ragu: I think what fascinates me about that, is the amount of unconsciousness in the process..
Zen Arado: yes
Calvino Rabeni: all those faculties are talked about as if separate, but they aren't and never were
Calvino Rabeni: they are braided together in an intant
Calvino Rabeni: *instant
Zen Arado: yes - a kind of psychological reductionism
Calvino Rabeni: true
Sharry Ragu: yes.. linked and possibly why I chose the word dependent.. one cannot without the rest of it

"The heart has a mind of it's own" :)

Zen Arado: they have found that the heart has lots of thinking process
Sharry Ragu: I think individual cells have an amount of consciouness..
Sharry Ragu: so that's exciting for me to hear Zen
Calvino Rabeni: There's a teleconference coming up from the Heartmath institute in the Beyond Awakening presentation series on that topic
Zen Arado: Hi Steve :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Morning
Zen Arado: interesting Cal
Zen Arado: there is a radio prog coming up on BBC world service
Zen Arado: on the same topic
Calvino Rabeni: Intelligence of the heart is a topic du jour
Zen Arado: wish I knew when it was :)
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Sharry Ragu: can you explain du jour for me Calvino?
Calvino Rabeni: "of the day"
Sharry Ragu: ahh.. thank you :))
Calvino Rabeni: meaning a topic of current interest
Calvino Rabeni: YW
stevenaia Michinaga: I would have asked what is "Intelligence of the heart" but I'll read the log later
Sharry Ragu enjoys the peace
Calvino Rabeni: FYI http://beyondawakeningseries.com/blog/
stevenaia Michinaga: thx
Calvino Rabeni: or http://beyondawakeningseries.com/blo...debbie-rozman/
Zen Arado: thanks Cal
Zen Arado: I can't find when the BBC prog is broadcast

Internet spiritual activities:

Calvino Rabeni: I went on an all day drive today, so I downloaded some of these audio programs - usually I don't take time for it :)
Sharry Ragu: what a brilliant idea Calvino :))
Calvino Rabeni: An 8 hour in-the-car mini-retreat - nothing else to do :)
Archmage Atlantis: Heym there is thought and video out there
Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps not as succinct
Zen Arado: car meditation :)
Archmage Atlantis: but thrt on yhr lr
Calvino Rabeni: These popular spirituality activities on the internet are getting huge compared to traditional venues
Calvino Rabeni: LIke 30,000 on that series
Sharry Ragu: whoa!
Zen Arado: I just found I can download Eckhart Tolle talks very cheap on Amazon
Zen Arado: about $1 each
Zen Arado: I like listening to him
Sharry Ragu: wow.. I loved his book "A New Earth"
Zen Arado: yes - I read 'The power of now ' too
Zen Arado: but I prefer to listen to him
Zen Arado: he is much funnier in his talks
Calvino Rabeni: I found all the fairy tales (Grimm, Anderson, etc.) on Kindle for free on my phone - but wish they were in voice
Sharry Ragu: lol.. I thought he was entertaining in his presentation.. I may have to check them out Zen :))
Zen Arado: you can use the KIndle to talk the text but it's a bit robotic
Zen Arado: I downloaded one called 'Presence' - it has two parts
Zen Arado: and I found another last night called 'Discovering Your True Purpose in Life'
Zen Arado: which is probably that there isn't one :)

The dreaded question - 'How are you' ?

Calvino Rabeni: I'd like a talk (or even a workshop) on how to handle the Dreaded Question
Sharry Ragu: it seems to me, that there are many who seem to be seekers..
Calvino Rabeni: "How Are You?"
Sharry Ragu: LOL
Zen Arado: :)
Sharry Ragu: I'm always really honest with that one Calvino... do you have an approach?
stevenaia Michinaga: such a simple question, why dreaded?
Calvino Rabeni: It is truly the Koan For Our TImes
Zen Arado: and the answer - 'Fine thanks' :)
Sharry Ragu: or I'm here ;)
Calvino Rabeni: Does that sit well with you?
Calvino Rabeni: Not me :)
Calvino Rabeni: So answering it is a form of self-abnegation?
stevenaia Michinaga: because we answer it usually with only basic assesment of ourselves?
Sharry Ragu: I'm not sure what you mean there Calvino.. it is a choice to answer or not answer..
Calvino Rabeni: Emotional reactions?
Calvino Rabeni: How much do we want to be known, or to reveal, to be seen, etc.?
Calvino Rabeni: Is it boring?
Sharry Ragu: and for me, mostly I would answer I'm here.. which does not deny or minimise any aspect of my being...
Calvino Rabeni: Is it just routine and robotic, and is that OK?
Calvino Rabeni: Does it really give room for exppression, or not?
stevenaia Michinaga: I'm sure if you asked the same question twice, with diffrent emphasis, the answers will be quite diffrent
Calvino Rabeni hopes so
Sharry Ragu: that choice is with me, if I choose to expand, intonation, there is plently of room to express :))
Zen Arado: but if you tell people 'I am a bit depressed' they usually don't want to hear that
Calvino Rabeni: And that feels ... ?
Calvino Rabeni: Inauthentic?
Calvino Rabeni: OR what
Calvino Rabeni: OR does it invite too much self scrutiny, like .. why am I depressed?
Calvino Rabeni: Of course I don't find that easy to think about
stevenaia Michinaga: or compassion in your response to that
Zen Arado: societal interaction and etiquette seems to force us to be inauthentic
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it seems to challenge one for self-compassion
stevenaia Michinaga: and compassion for the one answering
Zen Arado: and there is the question of time
Darren Islar: good morning :)
Calvino Rabeni: What if I asked for a mutual pact of authenticity, for example, from one of you? Would you be tempted?
Calvino Rabeni: Hi Darren :)
Zen Arado: how much time would you have to explain why you feel depressed?
Calvino Rabeni: How are you ? :)))
Zen Arado: Hi Darren :)
Calvino Rabeni: (don't answer)
Zen Arado: How are you Darren ?
Zen Arado: :)
Sharry Ragu: it can go in a multitude of directions Calvino.. it could be authentic, not authentic.. it may invite scrutiny or one may ride it like a roller-coaster.. I'm not really understanding... I don't think
Darren Islar: I"m fine :)
Zen Arado: :)
Calvino Rabeni: When I hear "I'm Fine" it generally feels a little disappointing
stevenaia Michinaga: I think that is the point Sharry
Darren Islar: hehehe :) Cal
Zen Arado: pact of authenticity - sure - if you have time to listen :)
Calvino Rabeni: heheh Darren :)
Sharry Ragu: so I would wonder what you are expecting of the person answering...
Darren Islar: I have my coffee, that makes this morning worthwhile :)
Calvino Rabeni shakes on it with Zen .. within limits of available time
Sharry Ragu: :)) Darren
Zen Arado: you might be sorry Cal :)
Calvino Rabeni: And limits of confidentiality of the setting
stevenaia Michinaga: I know someone who when I ask, and their response varies from "I'm fine" to "I'm ok" tells me a world about how they are, and "I'm ok" is never good
Calvino Rabeni: because I haven't made the same deal with the rest of the world :)
Zen Arado: then you'll say ' he never stops complaining' ;)
Sharry Ragu: LOL
Sharry Ragu: :))
Sharry Ragu: well one does need some sort of hobby ;)
Calvino Rabeni: Have you noticed good complaining compared with sort of pointless complaining?
Sharry Ragu nods
Zen Arado: hmmm....thinking there are some things better left unsaid
Zen Arado: honesty can be brutal
Calvino Rabeni: I agree, but what does that depend on?
Zen Arado: self revelation isn't easy
Calvino Rabeni: What is better left unsaid, about oneself ?
Sharry Ragu: I believe it depends on awareness vs automation (habit)..
Zen Arado: I don't even know myself how I am :)
Darren Islar: that's the fun part :)
Zen Arado: yes - self awareness
Calvino Rabeni: Darren, we are trying to talk about the Dreaded Question - "How Are You?"
Zen Arado: politeness to others is important too
Sharry Ragu: hmmm... I thought we were talking about it ;) lol
Darren Islar: ah, and I was proof of..........? :))
Zen Arado: 'fine thanks 'response :)
Zen Arado: the dreaded response :)
Darren Islar: hmmmmmm
Calvino Rabeni: It's so unfair to spring it on Darren like that :)
Sharry Ragu: I don't think it's a dreaded response..
Zen Arado: the one I always use :(
Darren Islar is scratching his head
Zen Arado: yes - sorry Darren
Sharry Ragu: egads!! just what do you think is so wrong/dreaded about it??
Darren Islar: np :)
Calvino Rabeni: Well it's a bit opaque
Zen Arado: I mean it is probably true
Sharry Ragu: can it not be a choice to be opaque?
Darren Islar: I actually am fine :)
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, but I don't answer the question - Human
Calvino Rabeni: which is true also
Zen Arado: and maybe we like to be positive
Darren Islar: but I know it is also used to keep people from asking uncomfortable questios
Darren Islar: questions
Sharry Ragu: perhaps I do not want to go into detail with someone?
Zen Arado: 'fine' is a funny word when you think about it
Darren Islar: I do sometimes :(
Sharry Ragu: I like fine weather :))
Calvino Rabeni: Whether I do or don't depends on the chemistry of awareness between us
Darren Islar: yes
Zen Arado: it doesn't actually mean 'good'
Sharry Ragu: yes, that I think is true
Darren Islar: no, it is probably closer to 'okay'
Zen Arado: true too Cal - you get to know people as Steve said
Sharry Ragu: I think good has too many associations.. and is subjective.. perhaps fine is not so much? intonation would also convey it's meaning to I think..
Zen Arado: do moods come across in SL?
Sharry Ragu: I think they do Zen

Giving and receiving attention:

Calvino Rabeni: One of those audio programs I heard in the car was saying - most people relate to others "wanting to be seen" and expecting a dearth of good attention, whereas it is uncommon to enjoy being the "good seer". Do you think this is true?
Zen Arado: yes Sharry - was thinking voice is better for mood expression
Darren Islar: yes, I think so Cal
Zen Arado: yes Cal - sounds like our usual egoic selfishness
Sharry Ragu: I don't think so Calvino, however my job is to be 'the good seer' so I am probably not the best person to ask
Zen Arado: we want attention more than we want to give it to others
Darren Islar: though it can be really interesting when you turn that around
Calvino Rabeni: Is that one of the emotional dynamic behind "How are you?" "Fine" ?
Darren Islar: I guess it is a complex thing
Zen Arado: I remember an Aussie expression 'stickybeak' for giving others too much attention :)
Darren Islar: you know you are somehow expected to say that.........
Zen Arado: noseyness in other words
Darren Islar: it can cover up your real emotions.......
Darren Islar: time is an issue........
Calvino Rabeni: I understand, Sharry, about the job
Darren Islar: you know somebody isn't really interested
Darren Islar: a pretty complex set of emotions
Zen Arado: caring attention is great when you get it
Sharry Ragu: how about not being reliant on it ;)
Zen Arado: can you give it in SL?
Sharry Ragu: I believe you can Zen
Zen Arado: true too Sharry
Darren Islar: what do you do Sharry?
Sharry Ragu: I'm a counsellor
Zen Arado: but we are bruised by life
Darren Islar: ah....
Calvino Rabeni: Meditation with others seems to work, so I'd guess less subtle emotional connections would too in SL]
Calvino Rabeni: Thanks for the discussion everyone - it was better than "fine" ")
Darren Islar: well I was surprised when I came to sl, how much is still 'communicated'
Sharry Ragu: :))
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Calvino Rabeni: BUt I have to go ...
Calvino Rabeni: Bye
Zen Arado: :)
Sharry Ragu: be well Calvino :))
Darren Islar: bye Cal :)
Zen Arado: thaanks Cal - bye
stevenaia Michinaga: I do as wellm the sun will be rising soon
Sharry Ragu: yes Darren.. so was I!
stevenaia Michinaga: bye all
Darren Islar: bye stevenia :)
Sharry Ragu: see you Steve
Zen Arado: bye Steve :)
Darren Islar: Zen, you look a bit like a bird, standing on one leg :)
Sharry Ragu: hehe
Sharry Ragu: AO, gotta love SL :))
Zen Arado: I know - I bought a new jacket last night
Darren Islar: yes, it looks great on you
Sharry Ragu zooms in
Zen Arado: going to take bits of it off
Darren Islar: and that is not politeness :)
Sharry Ragu: very smart Zen :))
Zen Arado: am I standing on one leg?
Zen Arado: I see myself sitting
Darren Islar: yes you are now
Sharry Ragu: you are sitting now Zen :)'
Darren Islar: I guess your sit-AO was still on
Zen Arado: switched AO off
Sharry Ragu: ;)
Sharry Ragu: I was doing the bird earlier
Darren Islar: :)
Sharry Ragu: LOL.. the bird sit I should say ;)

SL communication:

Sharry Ragu: so Darren, you were saying you were surprised at how communication translated here in SL?
Darren Islar: yes
Sharry Ragu: can you describe what you have found?
Darren Islar: since I know I respond more to body-language
Sharry Ragu: oh ok, so how is here for you?
Zen Arado: yes - was going to say that too Darren
Darren Islar: hard to say, because I haven't figured it out yet
Sharry Ragu: I wonder if AO's would present a presence and convey communication?
Darren Islar: but there is probably more in talking then I assumed
Sharry Ragu: oh
Sharry Ragu: :))
Zen Arado: I find it difficult to use voice in SL because you miss subtle cues for when someone has finished speaking
Darren Islar: maybe, but to me that isn't the whole asnwer
Darren Islar: yes
Sharry Ragu: I wonder if that means your are both more visual??
Darren Islar: I have a girlfriend, that has a pretty fidget AO, not my style :)
Sharry Ragu: I know I have an auditory preference
Sharry Ragu: haha :))
Zen Arado: you can kind of add body language cues in text I think but women seem better at it than men
Darren Islar: I am more visual yes
Zen Arado: I don't know simply
Darren Islar: Sometimes it feels like I can feel chemestry through the screen
Sharry Ragu: occasionally, I'll slip in a *shuffles her feet*, or a *winks and smiles* :)) it seems to convey mood and tone better
Zen Arado: I have to go unfortunately
Zen Arado: my window cleaner needs paid
Sharry Ragu: yes Darren! its interesting that isn't it :))
Zen Arado: thanks for interesting discussion :)
Zen Arado: bye
Darren Islar: okay Zen, see you, bye :)
Sharry Ragu: thanks Zen :)) it's been wonderful chatting to yu
Darren Islar: like you feel the rythm of other persons anyway
Sharry Ragu: yes
Sharry Ragu: I'm not sure if one needs to be perceptive to cues or what it is..
Darren Islar: btw, I'm a cousellor too
Sharry Ragu: haha! nice to meet you :))
Darren Islar: :))
Darren Islar: well, you start wondering about what cues you really use
Darren Islar: it feels like the picture is different then what I expected
Sharry Ragu: for me, I think text mostly.. listening and perhaps an ability to empathise?
Sharry Ragu: oh? so what did you expect?
Darren Islar: more distance i guess
Darren Islar: hard to say what you expect, because it works pretty subtle
Sharry Ragu nods
Darren Islar: I did notice though that you use more text in sl
Darren Islar: you need to explain more
Sharry Ragu: I have a bit of a theory about SL.. somehow I think it translates essence...
Darren Islar: I get more questions about what I mean
Sharry Ragu: as filters used in RL are lessened as there is no 'physical' threat
Darren Islar: yes, I have been thinking in that line too
Darren Islar: but that is more because things are 'taken away'
Sharry Ragu: well yes, anonymity helps too
Darren Islar: body-language has a great impact on me
Darren Islar: but since there is hardly any in sl, I feel more free
Sharry Ragu: yes :))
Darren Islar: no-one is picking his nose, drops clothes everywhere, is looking annoyed or anything like it
Sharry Ragu: hahahah :))
Darren Islar: by cutting away all those things
Darren Islar: communication seems to be more easy
Sharry Ragu: yes, that's right :))
Darren Islar: we can now connect on a different level
Sharry Ragu: judgements are a little more removed I think
Darren Islar: and of course we all look good :))
Darren Islar: yes
Sharry Ragu: dang we is all sexy huh :D
Darren Islar: :)
Darren Islar: no boss that bosses you around
Darren Islar: no one you depend on for money
Sharry Ragu: unless you are into BDSM ;) lol
Darren Islar: yes, okay :)
Darren Islar: but that is by choice
Sharry Ragu: it is :))
Darren Islar: no professors in ivory towers
Darren Islar: bankmanagers that doesn't even look at you
Sharry Ragu: you will have to excuse my outbursts.. I have discovered my inner child and fostered my sense of humour here ;)
Darren Islar: that's okay, np :)
Sharry Ragu: yes, there is much freedom here and that is brilliant for self-exploring
Sharry Ragu: and for learning about others
Darren Islar: yes
Sharry Ragu: do you log on often?
Darren Islar: yes
Darren Islar: trying to put up some things in sl
Sharry Ragu: lol.. have you gone through the addiction period?
Sharry Ragu: or did you start with more self-discipline?
Darren Islar: wel, from my own experience I know what addiction means
Darren Islar: and self-disicpline is not really working I'm afraid
Darren Islar: but I do check myself on addictive behaviour
Darren Islar: even though I am here a lot
Darren Islar: I don't recognize addictive behaviour
Sharry Ragu: I know when I started, I did burn the midnight oil.. and sleep deprevation was experienced ;)
Darren Islar: sure, it is new, exciting and computers are weird things
Darren Islar: it is hard to notice how long you're behind the screen
Sharry Ragu: yes.. time loss ;) lol
Darren Islar: but with everything you need to find a way to handle it
Darren Islar: making it part of your daily life, instead of the other way around :)
Sharry Ragu: yes! that is the trick :))
Sharry Ragu: I have had very emotional experiences here.. unexpected and time where I just thought I would delete my av.. but I have discovered working through them can be very educational :))
Darren Islar: yes, you can use it
Darren Islar: instead of being carried away with it
Sharry Ragu: well, I don't mind doing a little of both ;) lol
Darren Islar: of course :)
Sharry Ragu: it's only life after all right?
Darren Islar: yessss
Darren Islar: it is live, different, but it is
Darren Islar: life
Sharry Ragu: :))
Darren Islar: need to go Sharry
Darren Islar: nice talking to you :)
Sharry Ragu: thank you for the discussion Darren, be well ::
Sharry Ragu: ã‹¡
Darren Islar: thank you !
Sharry Ragu waves