2010.10.19 13:00 - From the Left and Behind

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.

     

    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Zon.

    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Yaku.

    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Wol.

    Wol Euler: hello Bruce, Blub, Zon

    Wol Euler: Zon, you seem to be wearing a rather large clock :)

    Zon_clock.jpg

    Wol Euler: ah

    Zon Quar: time..time

    Zon Quar: what is it

    Wol Euler chuckles.

    Zon Quar: and why

    Wol Euler: hello Eliza

    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Eliza.

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Guys :::zooming in::::: neat outfit Wol :)

    Wol Euler: ty :)

    Wol Euler: Eshi Otawara at her best

    Wol Euler: thanks for joining us, Bruce :)

    Eliza Madrigal: :))And Blub

    Wol Euler: sorry, IM-ing with Eliza about retreats

    Eliza Madrigal looks innocent

    Bruce Mowbray: Happy to be here ‑‑ Is this a theme session?

    Wol Euler: do you have a theme? :‑P

    Eliza Madrigal giggles

    Wol Euler: perhaps "happy to be here" could be a theme

    Eliza Madrigal: The theme session for the retreat is Saturday

    Eliza Madrigal: 7AM

    Wol Euler remembers Garrison Keillor

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I thought that was Saturday ‑‑‑ so is Prairie Home Companion, as I recall.

    Wol Euler: right :)

    Wol Euler: Saturday 7am, the retreat reports

    Eliza Madrigal: Sunday here for PHC, Saturday is Wait Wait Don't Tell Me :)

     

    ‑‑BELL—

     

    Bruce Mowbray: Oh, that's right.

    Wol Euler: I know PHC only from the movie and from Keillor's books

    Wol Euler: but I liked both very much

    Eliza Madrigal: He writes for salon.com sometimes as well

    Wol Euler: ah :)

    Wol Euler: he has a really nice tone of voice, slow and friendly and calm

    Eliza Madrigal: agreed... liked that Kevin Kline played Guy Noir in the film too

    Bruce Mowbray: "Have you tried 'em Powdermilk Biscuits"?

    Eliza Madrigal: heheh

    Eliza Madrigal hears washboard playing in the background...

    Eliza Madrigal: I have a very bad, modern version of Hamlet with Kevin Kline as Hamlet

    Wol Euler: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: well modern if 1980 is modern...

    Eliza Madrigal: :))

    Eliza Madrigal: strange what people buy

    Wol Euler grins.

    Wol Euler: did Zon just poof?

    Bruce Mowbray is wondering about this Life Shop AO that Zon gave me. . .

    Bruce Mowbray: Zon seems to have poofed, yes.

    Wol Euler: "life is brief as a candle" as they say

    Bruce Mowbray: Zon was trying on a number of articles ‑ then gave me an AO, then poofed. . .

    Wol Euler: heh

    Bruce Mowbray can't make hide nor hair of it.

    Wol Euler: I saw lots of object‑IM particles radiating around him

    Bruce Mowbray: yep.

    Bruce Mowbray predicts Boxy will soon arrive.

    Wol Euler: heheheh

    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Alfred.

    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha

    Eliza Madrigal: Bruce, you're amazing ;‑)

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Alfred

    Wol Euler: well done Bruce.

    Wol Euler: hello Alf

    Eliza Madrigal: He has a special talent... av whispering

    Wol Euler: :)

    Eliza Madrigal wonders what Alf is out there staring at

    Wol Euler: whoosh

    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Wol Euler: look! up in the sky!

    Wol Euler: it's a crate!

    Wol Euler: it's a parcel!!

    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha

    Wol Euler: no, it's Alfred!

    Alfred Kelberry: tada :)

    Eliza Madrigal: ^.^ Alfred

    Alfred Kelberry: good to see you all :)

    Eliza Madrigal: What have you discovered?

    Wol Euler: tell us all.

    Alfred Kelberry: who? me?

    Bruce Mowbray listens to hear all.

    Eliza Madrigal: very good practice, Bruce

    Alfred Kelberry: oh, I don't see Eliza

    Wol Euler: oh noes

    Eliza Madrigal: I think I'm here today

    Wol Euler: to my left

    Alfred Kelberry: I see Woly's beautiful dress though :)

    Wol Euler: just as well :)

    Alfred Kelberry: yes, she's a cloud

    Wol Euler: and ty

    Alfred Kelberry: leggy cloud :)

    Wol Euler: Eliza, can you rebake perhaps? ctrl‑alt‑R

    Bruce Mowbray: I see everyone clearly. No clouds for me.

    Alfred Kelberry: *touches Woly’s dress fluffy parts*

    Wol_Alfred.jpg

     

    ‑‑BELL—

     

    Wol Euler: :)

    Alfred Kelberry: yay! it worked ‑ thank you, Eliza :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you.... nice to be visible ;‑)

    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Alfred Kelberry: being invisible is kind of cool, too :)

    Alfred Kelberry: I see another group on the map

    Wol Euler: I imagine it being very lonely

    Alfred Kelberry: is it an I Ching meeting?

    Wol Euler: (invisibility)

    Wol Euler: dream session

    Eliza Madrigal: You mean like Bruce?

    Alfred Kelberry: Woly, um... it's fun for a while :)

    Wol Euler: exactly

    Eliza Madrigal: (who disappeared for a moment there to my view not sure if intentional)

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: would be fun to host a party while invisible...

    Alfred Kelberry: Bruce is here with us thankfully :)

    Eliza Madrigal: clean things up, etc

    Alfred Kelberry: ha! bruce :)

    Alfred Kelberry: we still can see your hair :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Okay... so not just me...

    Alfred Kelberry: sneaky Bruce :)

    Wol Euler: Bruce poofed for a few seconds then for me too

    Bruce Mowbray wonders if this is what happened to Zon a while back.

    Alfred Kelberry: um... I have a question

    Wol Euler: I have an answer!

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Al?

    Eliza Madrigal listens

    Wol Euler: let's compare your question to my answer, see if they match :)

    Alfred Kelberry: when you think of something in the past, do you imagine it as something from the left on an invisible arrow of time?

    Alfred Kelberry: um...

    Bruce Mowbray: I'd be more likely to think of it as being behind me.

    Wol Euler: either behind or left, yes

    Alfred Kelberry: interesting

    Eliza Madrigal: interesting question....

    Eliza Madrigal: not sure, if a memory from past I think of it in front...

    Eliza Madrigal: but past in general...

    Eliza Madrigal: somewhere fuzzy 'out there'

    Alfred Kelberry: I wonder if it's from the right in "right to left" cultures

    Wol Euler: Hmmmm

    Wol Euler: we should ask Fefonz. Hebrew is read from right to left.

    Eliza Madrigal: yes!

    Wol Euler: if it comes from that, he'd see the past on his right

    Alfred Kelberry: I think it's a good example of how our mind is wired into conceptual network of habits, etc

    Wol Euler nods.

    Alfred Kelberry: when in reality memory happens just now, in the moment

    Eliza Madrigal: yes

    Eliza Madrigal: sometimes I feel I can be more present in memories now, than I was when in them...

    Alfred Kelberry: hmm

    Eliza Madrigal: like they were just ideas before

    Eliza Madrigal: though the way I said that prob makes no sense to read... hahh

    Alfred Kelberry: um... a bit :)

    Alfred Kelberry: oops, Woly is gone

    Eliza Madrigal: uh oh... someone is stealing avs today

    Bruce Mowbray: Ooops. Woly went poofy.

    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Bruce Mowbray:  Maybe she ducked out for one of her past ideas.

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Bruce Mowbray: (to the left and backward.)

    Alfred Kelberry: fell into a puncture in spiritual ether :)

    Eliza Madrigal: It IS a really neat question though... I may come back to it now and then

    Bruce Mowbray: wb, Wol!

    Eliza Madrigal: WB Wol :) Wow... the dress is more amazing now...

    Alfred Kelberry: it's interesting, Bruce. I never thought of the past as behind.

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler: ty

    Alfred Kelberry: Woly is back :)

    Eliza Madrigal: in the 'rear view' window

    Alfred Kelberry: *hugs Woly* mmmm... :)

    Alfred Kelberry: fluffy things :)

    Wol Euler scratches your cardboard butt

    Eliza Madrigal: heheheh

    Alfred Kelberry: heheh

    Alfred Kelberry: oh, Rear Window is a good movie :)

     

    ‑‑BELL—

     

    Bruce Mowbray: So, if your past is not "behind" you, then perhaps you have your whole life ahead of you, Al.

    Alfred Kelberry: no, it's happening now :)

    Wol Euler: yeah, but even the past.

    Alfred Kelberry: I think dream workshop has taken place here before

    Bruce Mowbray was experiencing Now-envy – (not now, but during the bell.)

    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Maxine’s Kira dream workshop is going on now Alfred :)

    Alfred Kelberry: oh, *that* dream workshop :)

    Wol Euler: :)

    Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps Maxine is saying, "I have a dream today!"

    Wol Euler: ha!

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Wol Euler: do you know that, Alf?

    Wol Euler: Martin Luther King's speech in Washington in ... 1966?

    Alfred Kelberry: oh, sure

    Bruce Mowbray ponders MLK's "Free at Last" speech ‑ having been frozen himself for five days. . .

    Wol Euler: heh

    Alfred Kelberry: Bruce in memories from behind :)

    Eliza Madrigal: " two looking through prison bars: one sees mud the other stars "

    Wol Euler: :)

    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Interesting book out now, written by a prison librarian... has nothing to do with that quote but I really enjoyed the interview

    Eliza Madrigal: I mean, it is relevant in its way to the quote, but fascinating discussion

    Wol Euler: oh, btw, apropos freedom and all that: let me recommend a marvelous blogpost. http://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/10/18/things‑i‑dont‑have‑to‑think‑about‑today/

    Wol Euler: long but very much worth reading.

    Wol Euler: sounds interesting, Eliza

    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes I opened that but was in a hurry so I'm re‑noting intention to really read :)

    Bruce Mowbray: Bruce's biological avatar taught in a state prison for eight years. . .

    Wol Euler: wow

    Eliza Madrigal: you must have stories

    Bruce Mowbray: that was 25 years ago ‑‑ and he still sends books there every other week.

    Eliza Madrigal: Wonderful :))))

    Alfred Kelberry: oh, that's nice

    Bruce Mowbray: also still corresponds every other week [from the sending-books weeks] with the man who was his inmate clerk in 1984.

    Wol Euler: very good.

    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: one of the stories shared today, was of a lady who would read prisoners children’s' books...

    Eliza Madrigal: and how transformative because some of them had never had that

    Alfred Kelberry: tell him to join us for a chat in SL :)

    Wol Euler nods

    Bruce Mowbray: I have a feeling that "time" is an altogether different animal to folks doing several life sentences.

    Wol Euler: not a friendly one, I'd think

    Alfred Kelberry: hmm

    Eliza Madrigal: yes I wonder ...

    Eliza Madrigal: where to escape the noise... find refuge...

    Bruce Mowbray: My friend Mike seems to have made prison into his ashram. . .

    Bruce Mowbray: He meditates, runs regularly, and has truly transformed his life. . . .

    Alfred Kelberry: neat

    Wol Euler nods.

    Bruce Mowbray: He has been an inspiration to me in many ways ‑‑ but I would not trade places with him for all the particles in SL.

    Eliza Madrigal: many former prisoners called in and said similar... that if one takes the chance, there are ways to live...

    Wol Euler: :)

    Bruce Mowbray: I belong to the Prison Dharma group here in SL.

    Bruce Mowbray: They have a sim on Commonwealth Island.

    Wol Euler listens

    Bruce Mowbray: I used to meditate there every morning ‑‑ before I found PaB.

    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, I did too... as did Eos...

    Eliza Madrigal: At Peacemaker :)

    Bruce Mowbray: (both at 7 a.m.)  Yes, Peacemaker. . . .

    Eliza Madrigal: It is a nice zendo.... lovely environment but I never got involved with groups there

    Bruce Mowbray: I just activated their label.

    Eliza Madrigal: wouldn't it be funny to do that in RL... "I want to be generous today" so click "activate generous" tag...

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Wol Euler: heh

    Wol Euler: but you can.

    Bruce Mowbray: ;‑)

    Alfred Kelberry: I think we do :)

    Wol Euler: just do it.

    Eliza Madrigal: Indeed :))

    Wol Euler: it works *really* well

    Wol Euler: because other people see it on you

    Wol Euler: (feel, whatever)

    Eliza Madrigal smiles

    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you guys for a lovely chat. :)

    Wol Euler: oooh, nice dress.

    Eliza Madrigal: Such a pleasure

    Eliza Madrigal: TY :)

    Wol Euler: bye Eliza, enjoy the day.

    Bruce Mowbray: Thank you, Eliza. Be well!

    Eliza Madrigal: bye for now

    Alfred Kelberry: bye, leggy girl :)

    Wol Euler: I guess everyone looks tall to you, Alf :)

    Wol Euler: that’s become your default av, hasn't it?

    Wol Euler: you haven't been the male human Alf in quite a while.

    Alfred Kelberry: um... I actually stopped noticing that :)

     

    ‑‑BELL—

     

    Alfred Kelberry: yes, I like this boxy bot :)

    Alfred Kelberry: *notes yet another group on the map*

    Alfred Kelberry: Woly, how's your identity workshop going on? :)

    Wol Euler: eh

    Wol Euler: it won't start before the new year :(

    Alfred Kelberry: ah, yes... as usual :)

    Wol Euler: I just can't get the time to work on it, my job is still going crazy and I'm going to be away for 2 weeks, and then Christmas ...

    Alfred Kelberry: going back to ca?

    Wol Euler: mmmm

    Alfred Kelberry: neat

    Alfred Kelberry: do you miss Tim Horton’s? :)

    Wol Euler: heh. no.

    Alfred Kelberry: Germanized :)

    Wol Euler: well, ok, I miss eating at Tim's as part of the experience of getting into a vehicle and driving for hundreds of miles at a stretch

    Wol Euler: I miss the Road.

    Wol Euler: but not Tim’s as such.

    Alfred Kelberry: oh... the road

    Alfred Kelberry: we have it in common :)

    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    Wol Euler: the big empty.

    Alfred Kelberry: maybe one day we'll take a road trip across Canada? :)

    Wol Euler: sure :)

    Alfred Kelberry: along this train route... gold express? I forgot

    Wol Euler: mmmm, I think that's American, California and Nevada

    Wol Euler: hello Darren

    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Darren.

    Darren Islar: Wol, Bruce Alf :))

    Alfred Kelberry: um... or Swiss :)

    Alfred Kelberry: oi, Darren :)

    Darren Islar: and pumpkin :)

    Darren Islar: and Blub of course

    Darren Islar: you are saved Bruce?

    Bruce Mowbray: Blub says 'Oi' to Darren.

    Wol Euler: hallelujah!

    Darren Islar: :)

    Alfred Kelberry: woohoo!

    Darren Islar: sorry, did I interrupt?

    Alfred Kelberry: nope

    Darren Islar: .

    Wol Euler: nah

    Wol Euler: just chatting

    Bruce Mowbray: Blub and I have recently thawed out and escaped Limbo . . .

    Darren Islar: ok

    Bruce Mowbray: but "saved," hmmmm. . . . Not sure what we'd be saved from, actually.

    Darren Islar: :)

    Alfred Kelberry: Darren, when you think of the past, do you see it coming from the "left" as on an arrow of time?

    Darren Islar: I heard you couldn't log in because you were already here

    Bruce Mowbray: (. . . or saved FOR, for that matter.)

    Darren Islar: yes, could be

    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Darren Islar: .

    Alfred Kelberry: it seems universal... at least in the western world

    Darren Islar: not sure

    Darren Islar: it sounds plausible

    Darren Islar: .

    Alfred Kelberry: the future must be "right"eous then :)

    Wol Euler: :)

    Bruce Mowbray: ;‑)

    Alfred Kelberry: *gets tea*

    Darren Islar: I guess then I don't look much in the future, because I don't seem to recall that

     

    ‑‑BELL—

     

    Wol Euler enjoys the silence

    Wol Euler realizes she just broke it.

    Wol Euler: ah well.

    Darren Islar: :)

    Bruce Mowbray: I am learning to "hear" the silence as underlying everything else. . . and remaining there as other sounds rise and fall.

    Bruce Mowbray: The sound of the bell, for example, does not push the silence out. . . The silence is always there.

    Wol Euler nods.

    Bruce Mowbray: So, Wol didn't "break" it, not for me, anyway.

    Bruce Mowbray: ;‑)

    Wol Euler: we do silent days at our retreats. They are my favourite part of the week.

    Bruce Mowbray: ah well.

    Alfred Kelberry: meep‑meep!

    Bruce Mowbray: ;‑)

    Alfred Kelberry: *sips sencha*

    Bruce Mowbray: Living as a hermit, most of my days are "silent."

    Wol Euler: well, yes :)

    Alfred Kelberry: Woly broke something? :)

    Bruce Mowbray: but I talk to the plants and animals, of course.

    Alfred Kelberry: Bruce, I'm sure they appreciate it :)

    Wol Euler: I noticed that I spent several hours on the Internet during my "silent day", and felt that this was wrong *for me*

    Alfred Kelberry: why?

    Wol Euler: so I've decided to make that "no communication" not just "no talking" at my next retreat

    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I read what you wrote about that, Wol.

    Alfred Kelberry: :/

    Alfred Kelberry: puzzles

    Darren Islar: I think you're right Wol

    Bruce Mowbray: I thought a lot about it ‑‑ and applied it to my own life.

    Bruce Mowbray: and wondered how I would feel about doing that at a retreat.

     

    ‑‑BELL—

     

    Wol Euler: well, the point of the silence is to listen to what's in you, not what comes out of you.

    Alfred Kelberry: Woly, do you mean you practice silence on the retreat?

    Wol Euler: Alf, we have a silent day during the retreat, which usually means "no talking"

    Wol Euler: *I* found that my Internet use interrupted *my* experience of silence.

    Wol Euler: others may have felt differently, that's fine.

    Wol Euler: I'm not speaking for anyone but myself

     

    [From the nearby Kira Café, Yaku activates onigokko.  Stealth onigokko.]

     

    Wol Euler: it worked! ------

    Bruce Mowbray spills coffee.

    Agatha Macbeth: That was Yaku :)

    Alfred Kelberry: oh, I see

    Bruce Mowbray: Yahoo!

    Agatha Macbeth: Do you yahoo?

    Bruce Mowbray: Only when I'm in New York.

    Wol Euler: hello aggers

    Wol Euler: hello yaku

    Wol Euler: stop

    Wol Euler: onigokko

    Bruce Mowbray: hello Yaku.

    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Bruce Mowbray spills more coffee.

    Wol Euler grins.

    Darren Islar: hey Yaku :)

    Wol Euler: stop

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone

    Yakuzza Lethecus: stop

    Alfred Kelberry: ok, i'm off now. thank you all for the company :)

    Wol Euler: bye Alf, take care

    Darren Islar: bye Alf :)

    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye Alf

    Wol Euler: stop

    Agatha Macbeth: Well I got that in stereo :)

    Darren Islar: stop?

    Yakuzza Lethecus: so now it´s possible to remote-trigger onigokko from the cafe :)

    Wol Euler grins.

    Darren Islar: hey Agatha :)

    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Dar

    Agatha Macbeth: Probably works from the Hall too

    Agatha Macbeth: Is it me, or was Bruce here?

    Wol Euler: it's not you

    Agatha Macbeth: Ah

    Darren Islar: was wondering myself where he went

    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we both crashed

    Wol Euler: there’s been a fair amount of crashing today

    Darren Islar: yes and a lot of lag

    Darren Islar: like typing when you're not talking

    Yakuzza Lethecus: good night everyone

    Agatha Macbeth: Schlaf gut Yaku

    Wol Euler: 'night yaku

    Darren Islar: ah no use to say goodnight to Yaku

    Agatha Macbeth: He will soon be asleep anyway :)

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler: well, won’t we all.

    Wol Euler: Euros that we are

    Agatha Macbeth: I don't usually go before 1 AM

    Darren Islar: well I'm going to do some stuff before I go to sleep

    Wol Euler: goodnight Darren, take care

    Agatha Macbeth: Enjoy Darren :)

    Darren Islar: sleep well ladies :)

    Wol Euler: and you, kind sir.

    Darren Islar: :)

    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe

    Wol Euler: what, he's male.

    Agatha Macbeth: Really?

    Wol Euler: sure

    Agatha Macbeth: Oh

    Wol Euler: I see no reason to doubt his presentation.

    Agatha Macbeth: Course not

    Agatha Macbeth: I mean, who would...

    Wol Euler nods.

    Agatha Macbeth whistles

    Wol Euler: exactly.

    Wol Euler: and yet there's no outrage over other species (for example)

    Agatha Macbeth: Furries and Tinies and Nekos

    Wol Euler: I've never heard anyone say "OMG WTF did you know almost all the tigers in SL are human in RL ???!?!?!!?"

     

    ‑‑BELL—

     

    Agatha Macbeth: Truly :)

    Agatha Macbeth: What's happening with this thing you were doing at Kira?

    Wol Euler: eh

    Wol Euler: I missed the boat. it won't happen now before the new year, since I'm away for two weeks in November and Christmas is coming...

    Agatha Macbeth: Aww

    Wol Euler: just can't get my act together

    Wol Euler: and I sit here talking instead of getting it together

    Agatha Macbeth: Didn't you miss the meeting because of RL work tho?

    Wol Euler: well, yeah.

    Agatha Macbeth: Valid excuse then

    Wol Euler: sure, I can explain it

    Wol Euler: anyway :)

    Wol Euler: that's the situation

    Agatha Macbeth: Something to look forward to next year then :)

    Wol Euler: I've been doing a lot of reading for it

    Wol Euler: and conclude that doing a lot of reading is a dead end :)

    Wol Euler: because I don't want this to be a lecture course.

    Wol Euler: I can use the readings to help guide workshop topics and exercises

    Agatha Macbeth: An interactive thing then?

    Wol Euler: definitely

    Agatha Macbeth: Yay

    Wol Euler: I want to present the experience of embodiment and perhaps even backformation to people who appear not to have had it yet

    Wol Euler: (my ulterior motive! mwahahahahah!!)

    Agatha Macbeth: Right

    Agatha Macbeth: Must be plenty of those

    Wol Euler: so it seems. Perhaps that's my appearance‑based prejudice though. I'm keen to find out.

    Agatha Macbeth: It will be *interesting*

    Wol Euler: oh yes )

    Wol Euler: hopefully for all parties

    Agatha Macbeth: Perhaps people will discover things about themselves they didn't even know :p

    Wol Euler: indeed

    Wol Euler: as one does :)

    Agatha Macbeth: Mmm

    Agatha Macbeth: One of the joys of SL :)

    Wol Euler: speaking of which

    Wol Euler: how are you?

    Agatha Macbeth: ?

    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, fine

    Wol Euler: good :)

    Agatha Macbeth: Can't complain

    Agatha Macbeth: Well, no more than usual

    Wol Euler: :)

    Agatha Macbeth: Any post‑retreat effects to report?

    Wol Euler: not yet, but I know they'll come.

    Wol Euler: I am missing it, missing having the time to sit and contemplate

    Wol Euler: or so it seems

    Wol Euler: again, I have the time. I just use it differently

    Agatha Macbeth: Yes

    Wol Euler: there are not fewer hours in these days than a week ago

    Agatha Macbeth: But the hours are differently spent

    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    Wol Euler: I did notice one thing right away, though.

    Agatha Macbeth: ?

    Wol Euler: being coordinator has one really strong negative side to it:

    Wol Euler: at the end of the retreat, you stand still while everyone walks away from you.

    Wol Euler: you don't even have travelling to look forward to

    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, yes

    Wol Euler: I hadn't thought about that before.

    Agatha Macbeth: How did you return ‑ by train?

    Wol Euler: yes, with Pema and Eos. We had dinner together, then on Saturday Eos took a two‑hours‑before‑crack‑of‑dawn train to the airport

    Wol Euler: Pema and I had breakfast, then I put him on his train home

    Wol Euler: (train to the airport, that is)

    Agatha Macbeth nods

     

    ‑‑BELL—

     

    Agatha Macbeth: Still, you pulled it off ‑ quite an accomplishment

    Wol Euler: people seem to have been pleased. which pleases me

    Agatha Macbeth: Absoulutely

    Agatha Macbeth: With too many u's

    Wol Euler: :)

    Agatha Macbeth: Is there a working group meeting going on or something?

    Wol Euler: just finished, I assume, given who's logging off

    Agatha Macbeth: Mm, just noticed

    Wol Euler: I think I'll have to head off to bed too. Really yawny today.

    Agatha Macbeth: Okay Yawny

    Agatha Macbeth: Yawny owl? :)

    Wol Euler: heheheh

    Wol Euler: probably

    Wol Euler: makes a change from hooting

    Agatha Macbeth: Sure thing

    Wol Euler: goodnight <3

    Agatha Macbeth: Night Wol <3

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