The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Eos Amaterasu: Hi zen
Zen Arado: Hi Eos
Eos Amaterasu: How are you this morning?
Zen Arado: no bad - just finishing my breakfast
Zen Arado: and you?
Eos Amaterasu: Not bad - up a bit early
Zen Arado: I'll bet!
Zen Arado: I couldn't remember if anyone wa going to do Wol's session - that's why I came
Eos Amaterasu: Ah - yes, I said I would do it - give Wol a chance to get ready to go to Japan!
Zen Arado: these 1am sessions aren't so popular
Zen Arado: Americans are still in bed and Europeans are at work
Zen Arado: how do you find the Imprudence browser?
Zen Arado: better than Phoenix?
Eos Amaterasu: Pretty good - a friend recommended it as having some better features than Phoenix. However, the other day I found I could not upload a graphic to SL - it repeatedly crashed. So went back to Phoenix to do that.
Zen Arado: that happens to me on Phoenix too
Eos Amaterasu: Would you like to suggest a way to approach the upcoming 90 secs?

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Zen Arado: no - but I generally come back to focus on my breath
Eos Amaterasu: That was the fastest 90 secs ever - I completely spaced out thinking about something
Zen Arado: many sessions they just type through it
Zen Arado: I am reading a book about unlearning meditation
Zen Arado: about questioning all the rules they give you
Zen Arado: freeing up the practice in many ways
Eos Amaterasu: A friend of mine was describing his current practice, which is to get up at 5 am, prop himself up in bed with pillows, and for an hour and a half "don't wander, don't meditate"
Eos Amaterasu: "to meditate" is itself a subtle thought
Eos Amaterasu: or maybe not so subtle: you can bang yourself over the head with the attempt to "meditate"
Zen Arado: yes - you can sit in a correct position with spine erect etc and not be meditating
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: and chastise yourself for not doing it 'correctly'
Eos Amaterasu: It may be a bit like giving a talk or presentation
Zen Arado: in what way?
Eos Amaterasu: What I've found is that it works best when you prepare a lot, mabye even over-prepare, but then drop the whole thing
Zen Arado: yes
Eos Amaterasu: So you can be more spontaneous, but nevertheless have a rich soup of background to be coming from
Zen Arado: but you never know how it will go
Eos Amaterasu: true :-)
Eos Amaterasu: the phenomenal world is a trickster, often :-)
Eos Amaterasu: phenomenality being whatever comes up, or drops down
Zen Arado: you could give the same presentation to 2 different audiences and it goes great with one and if flat with another
Zen Arado: I know this from teaching adults
Eos Amaterasu: I suppose part of that relaxation is to let go enough to feel the texture of the audience, the people, where they are coming from
Zen Arado: yes but if they have roughly the same background...
Zen Arado: it is weird sometimes
Zen Arado: the unpredictability of life
Eos Amaterasu: What sorts of things do you teach?
Zen Arado: I am retired now
Zen Arado: used to be a training instructor in power ..utilities I think you call them
Zen Arado: so I taught that kind of engineering
Zen Arado: and basic thermdynamics
Zen Arado: it was pretty dry stuff I guess
Zen Arado: how boilers and turebines work
Eos Amaterasu: thermodynamics sounds like hot stuff!
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado: it's all about heat exchangers
Eos Amaterasu: the details of how the world works are endlessly fascinating
Zen Arado: heat transfer

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Zen Arado: yes - there are a lot of mechanical gadgets in power generation
Zen Arado: lots of things that break down
Zen Arado: the heart of most power generation is massive steam boilers burning fossil fuels
Eos Amaterasu: burning life to phase transition water to create pressure?
Zen Arado: yes - high pressure and temperature steam
Zen Arado: maybe a ton per square inch pressure and 560 degrees C
Eos Amaterasu: ouch!
Zen Arado: there was an interesting lecture last week in SL about CCS - carbon capture storage
Zen Arado: about finding places to securely store carbon extracted from fossil fuel burning
Zen Arado: I missed some of it but they can store underground in old oil wells
Zen Arado: porous rock
Zen Arado: anyway I better go and do my shopping
Eos Amaterasu: okay, have a good day!
Zen Arado: you too
Zen Arado: Bye
Eos Amaterasu: Bye, Zen