2011.02.02 13:00 - How Differently People Unpack the Time

The Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The comments are by Fefonz Quan.

 At the middle of the session there where two visitors that participated shortly, but they were gone before giving permission to record, hence I removed there names and remarks addressed to them in the log. I did though left some of their lines, anonymously, where i felt it was a contribution to the conversation. The mark '----' shows places where they were mentioned.

Mickorod Renard: hi Fef,,hi scath
Mickorod Renard: wow,,scath,,long time no see
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Fefonz, Mick:)
Mickorod Renard: :)
Scathach Rhiadra: just downloaded the new viewer, can't find anything!!
Mickorod Renard: have i been missing or has it been you scath?
Fefonz Quan: Hi Scath, Mick!
Mickorod Renard: Hi Fef
Mickorod Renard: hows lil un?
Scathach Rhiadra: oh, maybe both of us mick
Mickorod Renard: Hi Lugh
Fefonz Quan: getting more charming and beautiful every day :)
Mickorod Renard: wow,,lovely
Scathach Rhiadra: :))
Scathach Rhiadra: are you getting much sleep?
Mickorod Renard: I have a little one here,,10 months
Fefonz Quan: I would say not much, but ok
Fefonz Quan: Oh, great Mick
Mickorod Renard: this one sleeps well
Lugh Fehr: hellow
Mickorod Renard: hellowwwww
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Lugh
Fefonz Quan: heu Lugh
Fefonz Quan: Has any of you been to the new orleans retreat?
Scathach Rhiadra: not me
Mickorod Renard: having children opens up a wholle new dimension to life
Mickorod Renard: not me eoither
Scathach Rhiadra: and haven't heard anything from those who were there yet
Lugh Fehr: nope :)
Mickorod Renard: I am just about to book flights for assisi
Scathach Rhiadra: ah nice Mick
Fefonz Quan: Italy?
Mickorod Renard: I think Eliza will turn up soon,,she was there
Mickorod Renard: yes italy
Fefonz Quan: that sounds great mick, I would love to be there, not sure i'll be able too yet.
Mickorod Renard: I was goin to say,,it would be great if you could make it
Scathach Rhiadra: you will have to arrange one in Israel Fefonz
Mickorod Renard: that would be wonderful
Fefonz Quan: well, Ialy is not so far away, the only issue is leaving my wife alone for some days with the little one, and that's the same even if it'll be here
Fefonz Quan: italy*
Scathach Rhiadra nods
Mickorod Renard: have you ever been to the church of st george Fef?,,in israel?
Fefonz Quan: or else we could all travel to Italy :)
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: wb lugh,,hi eliza
Fefonz Quan: Hi Eliza, you are so springy today!
Mickorod Renard: heyyy,,is it Gaya?
Eliza Madrigal: wow, Hi Scath! :)
Scathach Rhiadra: have a family holiday in italy, that would b e nice:)
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Eliza:)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick and Lugh and Fef... and yes SL keeps making me run
Lugh Fehr: hey eliza
Lugh Fehr: hey gaya
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Gaya :)
Fefonz Quan: And Hi Gaya, good to see you
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Gaya:)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello everyone :) Came by to say hello to Fefonz and others before logging off :)
Mickorod Renard: Gaya,,dont go yet
Fefonz Quan: We are all anxious to here about the RL retreat, little bird tolg us you've been there
Gaya Ethaniel: hehe yes
Fefonz Quan: told*
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Fefonz Quan: it's your first, isn't it?
Gaya Ethaniel: It was very special ... still haven't written a report yet ...
Gaya Ethaniel: mhm
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Fefonz Quan: you're welcome to skip the formality and give us some highlights :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes please! :)))
Fefonz Quan: (and you too Eliza - right?)
Scathach Rhiadra: yes please do:)
Gaya Ethaniel: wow ... so many highlights ...
Eliza Madrigal: Yes I was there, but it is always so interesting to hear how differently people unpack the time
Gaya Ethaniel: I think everything was highlight ... hm ...
Gaya Ethaniel: I'm not trying to avoid the questionb tw
Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... maybe ask more specific questions?
Gaya Ethaniel: Help me out here lol
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Fefonz Quan: how was it to meet the people in RL?
Gaya Ethaniel: I haven't really spent much time with Eos or Lia in SL so was great to get to know them a bit more.
Gaya Ethaniel: Eliza, Pema and Steven I know them fairly well I think so it was more like meeting up for a coffee ... make sense?
Mickorod Renard: is Stim similar to his avi?
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Gaya Ethaniel: Well there's his picture somewhere from a previous retreat.
Fefonz Quan: Ah, stim was there to?
Gaya Ethaniel: Someone accused him of being too handsome lol
Gaya Ethaniel: mhm
Mickorod Renard: he he he
Eliza Madrigal: Stim is warmer than his avi..hah, yes and he was 'caught being too handsome' :)
Gaya Ethaniel: oh yeah a great thing about RL is that I get more response from Stim :P he goes mm mm or nodding etc
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Fefonz Quan: hehe:)
Fefonz Quan: I still remember corvi's desription of him in the first RL retreat
Eliza Madrigal: yes? listens...
Gaya Ethaniel: oh ok what was it?
Fefonz Quan: 'it's like having a friendly giant wiht us in the room"
Gaya Ethaniel: Interesting :)
Eliza Madrigal grins.. leave it to corvi :)
Scathach Rhiadra: ha, is he tall then?
Eliza Madrigal shakes head... think she must have refered to his presence
Gaya Ethaniel: Haven't you guys seen the photo from SF retreat?
Mickorod Renard: did you have any revelations,,that you think are important for us to share?
Scathach Rhiadra: ah, I see, a largr presence:)
Mickorod Renard: no,,not seen it
Fefonz Quan: yes, it wasn't a geometrical term of course
Scathach Rhiadra: large*
Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... I don't think he had a larger presence than anyone else as such ...
Fefonz Quan: did you do the ;silence day"? how was it for you?
Gaya Ethaniel: The whole gathering ... everyone in it was quite unique.
Gaya Ethaniel: A lot of time we were quite silent right Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: we didn't actually *do* silent day but yes silence descended at times
Mickorod Renard: mmmm I believe that of course
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Bleu :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Mickorod Renard: Hi Bleu
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Bleu:)
Fefonz Quan: Hi Bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
Fefonz Quan: Did you feel (like i had in the RL ones i attended) that the RL presence give more rich dimensions to the PaB experience?
Gaya Ethaniel: Well ... unspoken works in RL I guess.
Fefonz Quan: gices*
--BELL--
Fefonz Quan: gives*
Eliza Madrigal: we'll have a session during lia's time tomorrow, btw.. but nice to share casually here too
Bleu Oleander: looking forward to it
Mickorod Renard: me too
Gaya Ethaniel: I think RL meetings are important ... not saying SL is less or anything.
Mickorod Renard: did you see evidence of the destruction ?
Fefonz Quan nods
Gaya Ethaniel: No no really, you mean the storm and flood?
Mickorod Renard: yes
Eliza Madrigal: not really, where we were... mostly in French Quarter area that was less affected
Mickorod Renard: ok
Eliza Madrigal: I actually posted a report today... but only skimmed the surface...
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Bleu Oleander: will take a look :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Think it's quite early to unpack ... :)
Mickorod Renard: I was suprised when i did an rl retreat,,at how easy it was to become comfortable with the rl persona's beind the avi's
Gaya Ethaniel: So I understand re: skimming.
Eliza Madrigal: hard to describe the energy of the place, and of us together... the music, etc
Eliza Madrigal nods @ Mick.. yes that's almost a strangenss
Bleu Oleander: where did you post it?
Mickorod Renard: wow,,u did the music bit too?
Fefonz Quan: ah, the music, humf humf...
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: let me get a link: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Guardian_Pages/Guardians'_Contributions/Eliza/Retreats/After_-_New_Orleans
Bleu Oleander: ty!
Gaya Ethaniel: ack I should go start writing something for tomorrow ...
Eliza Madrigal: there is also a short music link at the bottom of the original NO page
Gaya Ethaniel: I've been listening to Dream a Little Dream of Me today :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Another song that band sang that night.
Eliza Madrigal: yes don't read mine before you write Gaya!
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Mickorod Renard: when I think of new orleans i picture that odd funeral ceremony with music that is portrayed in an old james bond movie
Gaya Ethaniel: lol you can be sure I will read yours before I write :P
Eliza Madrigal laughts...darn, should have held back :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :P
Eliza Madrigal: *laughs
Gaya Ethaniel: :D
Eliza Madrigal: it is very unique Mick...
Eliza Madrigal: and mostly due to the people/personalities... very engaging
Mickorod Renard: yea,,quite a mix of cultures there i guess??
Eliza Madrigal: indeed...and levels of awareness...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: we were a block from Bourbon Street
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Zen :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Zen
Mickorod Renard: how do you mean 'levels of awareness'?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen
Mickorod Renard: Hi zen
Zen Arado: Hi all
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Zen,
Fefonz Quan: Hi Zen
Eliza Madrigal: hm... well in this case I mean people of all kinds of awake levels... some stumbling, mumbling, expressing fully, dancing... quite a range :)
Zen Arado: Hi Scath - long time no see!
Mickorod Renard: ahh I see, when taking in the music?
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, when walking around, shopping, seeing bands, etc
Eliza Madrigal: but maybe that's all I'll say for now :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Mickorod Renard: in many towns in france on the longest day in summer,,they have music festivals,,i suspect its similar to that
Gaya Ethaniel: Well some part was very touristic so maybe not quite festival like :P
Mickorod Renard: like a band or group on every corner and in every cafe
Mickorod Renard: diverse too
Bleu Oleander: did you get a sense that there were many tourists there?
Gaya Ethaniel: lol
Gaya Ethaniel remembers that woman ...
Gaya Ethaniel: Lots of tourists but I think more to come as it gears up for Mardi Gras
Eliza Madrigal: 'that woman' yes... will never forget her
Gaya Ethaniel: no no no
Mickorod Renard: tell us then,,:)
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Mickorod Renard: suspense
Bleu Oleander: listens
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: How Lia pointed her out to me when we came out of the lift ^^;;;
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Sunshine :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Gaya ;)
Zen Arado: Hi Sunshine
Eliza Madrigal: not sure if she was funnier or Lia imitating her was funnier
Bleu Oleander: hi Sun
Sunshine Vayandar: hi all
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sun :D
Mickorod Renard: Hi Sunshine
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Lizzy ;)
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello sunshine
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Gaya Ethaniel: oh just a drunken woman screaming in the hotel in early hours ...
Mickorod Renard: erk
--BELL--
Gaya Ethaniel: Eliza, Lia and I were on the same floor and we all heard her.
Mickorod Renard: and it wasnt any of you ?
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes Lia was great :)
Eliza Madrigal: hehe... we don't think so Mick
Mickorod Renard: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: We were having dinner one night, Lia, Stim and me, and we laughed so much ...
Gaya Ethaniel: ok I need to go now and lock myself up and try writing a report.
Eliza Madrigal: Sunshine, you are emanating flowers... very pretty :)
Mickorod Renard: thinks Fef is changing nappies
Eliza Madrigal: :) Gaya.... write first, read later
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
Sunshine Vayandar: ty
Zen Arado: yes :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Nice to see you all :) bfn
Mickorod Renard: bye gaya,,take care
Eliza Madrigal: welcome to PlayasBeing :)
Zen Arado: bye Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: ok Eliza :P
Scathach Rhiadra: thanks for the preview Gay. good night:0
Eliza Madrigal smiles, night Gaya :)
Bleu Oleander: bye Gaya
Sunshine Vayandar: nitenite
Eliza Madrigal: (Ty Sun)
Sunshine Vayandar: yw ;)
Zen Arado: ty Sun
Fefonz Quan: nope, was listening and also read Eliza's beautiful report
Sunshine Vayandar: flower to the flower
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Sunshine Vayandar: hi  ;)
Eliza Madrigal: thanks too, Fef

Bleu Oleander: yes, lovely report Eliza :)

Sunshine Vayandar: I hope I will have time to read it
Bleu Oleander: bye for now
Mickorod Renard: ok guys,,I gotta go
Eliza Madrigal: ty... tried not to capture everything... just write first thoughts
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu :)
Scathach Rhiadra: yes, lovely report Eliza:)
Mickorod Renard: bye bleu
Mickorod Renard: bye everyone
Sunshine Vayandar: kk
 

A qeustion arose:

            what is this place?
Sunshine Vayandar: bye bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Mick:)
Scathach Rhiadra: bye Mick:)
Fefonz Quan: it's funny, getting so inspired by reding the report, yet feeling that tingling of envy for not being there...
Scathach Rhiadra: :)
Zen Arado: bye Mick
Sunshine Vayandar: we meet here 4 times a day
Eliza Madrigal gave notes to ----- and ---------...
--------------: *•.¸('*• ☆THANKYOU ☆ •*´)¸.•*
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: :) Fef.. as I feel when I think of you baby gazing :)
Fefonz Quan: bye Bleu!
Sunshine Vayandar: baby gazing ;)
Eliza Madrigal: ah, so funny whenever someone asks what kind of group we are...
Sunshine Vayandar: what do u usually say
Zen Arado: it's hard to describe
Eliza Madrigal: so many places to begin!
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Fefonz Quan: I should opint to Arch's post from lst week
---------------- well its not many places u tp and people are sitting in a circle :Pfefonz 06 February 2011
Sunshine Vayandar: best is to come a few times
Eliza Madrigal: hehe ----
Eliza Madrigal: yes indeed.. a few times to get a real taste
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Cal ;)
Eliza Madrigal: each session is different
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cal
Zen Arado: try it and see
Sunshine Vayandar: previous session I played the violin ;)
Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Calvino
Zen Arado: Hi Cal
Sunshine Vayandar: and Yaku the guitar
Calvino Rabeni: Hi, everyone !
Sunshine Vayandar: how are you Cal ;)
Eliza Madrigal: but we aspire to explore the nature of reality together, pausing periodically...
Eliza Madrigal: Ooooh yes SUN! I saw/read that!!
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal bummed to miss it...
Fefonz Quan: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2011/01/2011.01.26_01%3a00_-_This_page_has_no_content
Sunshine Vayandar: and we also played the vuvuzela
Zen Arado: missed that
Sunshine Vayandar: oh it can happen anytime again I think ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: only Jah knows
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: ah.... will be coming around again, exhales...
Fefonz Quan: ah, yaku played guitar? didn't know tht
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Zen Arado: my alt has a guitar
Sunshine Vayandar: yes he does
Zen Arado: but she can only play a few riffs on it
Fefonz Quan: so it's alt-guitar? ;-)
Sunshine Vayandar: Bruce made an excuse lol
Zen Arado: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: he said he didn't have piano on the farm
Zen Arado: it's a Fender actually
Eliza Madrigal: (guess ---they---- didn't give permission to be posted, didn't quite get there)
Fefonz Quan: my favorite
Sunshine Vayandar: so may be you could play that Fender sometime sonn
Sunshine Vayandar: soon
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: yes... a jam session
Zen Arado: I'll tell her to practice :)
Fefonz Quan: yes, mine is in RL
Sunshine Vayandar: these chats are already like jams
Eliza Madrigal: they sure can be
Sunshine Vayandar: Fefonz you play guitar?
Scathach Rhiadra: well, I must be off, good night all:)
Fefonz Quan: yep
Sunshine Vayandar: niteniteee ;)
Zen Arado: I used to play classical guitar
Eliza Madrigal: so nice to see you Scath
Fefonz Quan: night Scathach!
Eliza Madrigal: Night :)
Zen Arado: nite Scath
Fefonz Quan: great seeing you
Scathach Rhiadra: and you too:0
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: on fridays yaku has a voice session before the official one
Sunshine Vayandar: really
Eliza Madrigal: seems a good time to play... though alas, I can just sway and appreciate :)
Eliza Madrigal: I have big open ears though.... add lots of space to a jam session, hehe
Zen Arado: Eden used to come and sing French songs
Fefonz Quan: oh, what time ?
Eliza Madrigal: 12SLT
Zen Arado: noon SLT
Sunshine Vayandar: if anyone interested I dance in a show called Alien Bolero
--BELL--
Sunshine Vayandar: Friday/Saturday 1plSlt
Sunshine Vayandar: 1pmSLT
Fefonz Quan: (silancio)
Eliza Madrigal is interested... would love to come see
Eliza Madrigal: saturday prob better
Zen Arado: where is that Sun?
Sunshine Vayandar: it's in my profile
Sunshine Vayandar: CARP
Zen Arado: ok
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm not easy to explain
Sunshine Vayandar: crazy artsy ppl's sim
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: cybernetic art projects
Fefonz Quan: (CARP?)
Eliza Madrigal: oh, nice quote from eckhart, too
Fefonz Quan: ah, ok
Fefonz Quan: yes, me nods
Sunshine Vayandar: I really believe that Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: indeed...
Sunshine Vayandar: when we create things and completely get involved
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful picture in picks... can't wait
Sunshine Vayandar: thoughts are gone
Fefonz Quan: And you had a nice Nagarjuna Quote Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: was so struck by that quote Fef... seemed to say everything
Eliza Madrigal: guess the two compliment one another... flash/instant of love
Fefonz Quan: thanks sunshine
Zen Arado: ty Sun
Sunshine Vayandar: yw interesting tower - it's an exhibition
Eliza Madrigal: wonderful. I have to get going... my son has a lesson in a bit so need to make sure homework is looked at :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks so much and wonderful to see you all
Sunshine Vayandar: have a great day Eliza ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: see u soon ;)
Eliza Madrigal: Namaste', bye for now
Fefonz Quan: Bye Eliza!
Sunshine Vayandar: namaste
Zen Arado: bye Eliza
Sunshine Vayandar: so Liz talked about the retreat?
Zen Arado: just a little
Fefonz Quan: I'll be on my way too, sleeping hours are quite prescious here lately ;-)
Sunshine Vayandar: take care fefonz ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: sleep well
Zen Arado: bye Fef:)
Fefonz Quan: _/!\_
Sunshine Vayandar: namaste
Zen Arado: the main meeting about the retreat is tomorrow I think
Sunshine Vayandar: ah ok I must check the site
Zen Arado: I'll miss it though
Sunshine Vayandar: what time is it
Zen Arado: 1pm I think but am going from memory
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm kk
Sunshine Vayandar: I'd love to attend a retreat like that
Zen Arado: me too
Sunshine Vayandar: but I am always far from these opportunities
Sunshine Vayandar: Cal any interesting news
Zen Arado: yes
Sunshine Vayandar: being in the savanna ;)
Zen Arado: you live in South Africa?
Sunshine Vayandar: yes
Sunshine Vayandar: it's like a lifelong retreat ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: I am hungarian
Zen Arado: nice place
Sunshine Vayandar: but have been here for long
Zen Arado: ah I see
Zen Arado: I visited Cape Town and Durban
Sunshine Vayandar: really ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: and what was your feeling
Zen Arado: on my way to Australia by boat many years ago
Sunshine Vayandar: wow
Sunshine Vayandar: sounds like fun
Sunshine Vayandar: boat?
Zen Arado: Cape Toem is really beautiful
Sunshine Vayandar: yes it is
Sunshine Vayandar: she is ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: the mother city
Zen Arado: yes I was emigrating to Australia
Sunshine Vayandar: oh ok
Sunshine Vayandar: from?
Zen Arado: it was too hot to go through Suez canal
Zen Arado: from the UK
Sunshine Vayandar: kk
Sunshine Vayandar: and how is Australia
Sunshine Vayandar: you have been there long?
Zen Arado: I am back in Ireland again
Sunshine Vayandar: ahh ok
Zen Arado: I only stayed 8 years
Sunshine Vayandar: adventurous life
Zen Arado: was a cheao way to see the world
Zen Arado: cheap*
Sunshine Vayandar: I also tried all kinds of things ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: sold ice cream in america ;)
Zen Arado: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: that was hectic
Sunshine Vayandar: I never understood the kids
Zen Arado: I'm sure
Sunshine Vayandar: they all talked in the same time
Sunshine Vayandar: and english was difficult enough lol
Zen Arado: you speak it wel now
Sunshine Vayandar: great to see u both
Sunshine Vayandar: I learn everyday ;)
Zen Arado: you too
Zen Arado: bye Sunshine
Sunshine Vayandar: take care and have a great week
Zen Arado: you too
Calvino Rabeni: Bye Sun and Zen, take care
Zen Arado: bye Cal