Wol Euler was guardian for this session.
Wol Euler: good morning, arch
Archmage Atlantis: Good morning, Wol :)
Archmage Atlantis: Are things still busy for you in rl?
Wol Euler: yes, frustratingly
Wol Euler: and possibly about to get much busier, if we win the competition
Archmage Atlantis: Sorry to hear that.......nice outfit though
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: thank you
Archmage Atlantis: Competition?.....sports, business or ?
Wol Euler: business, the design of a new kindergarten in a small town inthe Black Forest
Wol Euler: in Europe, any building erected with public money has to be awarded by competition
Archmage Atlantis: Same here in a sense, although it is called competitive bidding, and price is a bigger concern than design, usually.
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: we have those here too, but usually for private projects
Wol Euler: architect and developer or general contractor as a team
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I think price is really the bigger consideration in most public and private projects.......although going over the bid upon price in development once awarded is also a common element
Wol Euler nods.
Archmage Atlantis: Here I mean
Wol Euler: here too :) It inevitably happens that the brief expands while the project is being designed, and even while it's being built :)
Wol Euler: sometimes the budget expands too, other times we have to explain that while 1+1=2, 1+2 is not equal to 2.
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, architecture and cost overruns are elements of both building a building and building a software project ::)
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: good morning, obs
observerm Resident: hello
He spoke! A rare event indeed.
Archmage Atlantis: And yes, 1+2 ne 2 is doing good :), especially in public projects where it is more like 1 + 4 = 1
Wol Euler chuckles.
Archmage Atlantis: Morning observerm
Wol Euler: it's a mystery to me.
Archmage Atlantis: Humans and all their works are a mystery to me, even tho I am one *g*
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: good morning, agatha
Agatha Macbeth: Hello :)
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Aggers
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Archie
Agatha Macbeth: How are we?
Archmage Atlantis: For me, good :)
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Wol Euler: pretty well, thanks, and ourselves?
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm, ok
Wol Euler: any plans for the day?
Agatha Macbeth: You look very fiery
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: The usual
Agatha Macbeth: Eshi?
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: a group freebie, even.
Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
Agatha Macbeth tries to eat a yogurt in RL and type at the same time
Wol Euler: heheheh
--BELL--
Wol Euler: just don't drip into the keyboard
Agatha Macbeth nods
Archmage Atlantis: The yogurt vs. keyboard comment reminded me that I'd better go feed my complaining cat, or he'd be up here on my kb any second
Wol Euler laughs.
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Wol Euler: yes, off you go :)
Wol Euler: poor kitty.
Agatha Macbeth: Gotta ook after yer pussy ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: look
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: they need attention
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Archmage Atlantis: Is a male cat a pussy......hmmmm?
Agatha Macbeth: Well, guess so
Wol Euler: puss perhaps
Wol Euler: actually that's a good question. I always assumed that the answer was yes
Agatha Macbeth: Macho puss
Archmage Atlantis: *chuckles".....I agree with you Wol, like Puss in Boots
Wol Euler: right
Wol Euler: was definitely male
Agatha Macbeth nods enthusiastically
Agatha Macbeth: 'Turn again Dick'
Wol Euler: erm, different story, but yes :)
Agatha Macbeth: Was it?
Wol Euler: dick whittington wasn't puss in boots?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Wol Euler: hello zaldaan
Agatha Macbeth: One pussy is much like another to me
Archmage Atlantis: There are so few nouns with gender in English, ships, cats and dogs seem to be genderfied just by being what they are
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, true Arch
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zal
Archmage Atlantis: Do any of you think you might attend the March retreat Eliza and Zen are coordinating?
Wol Euler: the in-world one? It depends on whether we win the competition
Agatha Macbeth: For myself I would doubt it
Wol Euler: if we do, no; else yes
Agatha Macbeth: Another competition?
Wol Euler: same one, the jury meets tonight
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Archmage Atlantis: Me neither......one a quarter or 3 is a lot
Agatha Macbeth: Chacun a son gout I guess
Wol Euler: as Flanders and Swann sang.
Agatha Macbeth: I remember the gasman song
Agatha Macbeth: Still makes me hysterical every time I hear it
Wol Euler: ah, I don't know that one. Youtube probably has it
Agatha Macbeth: 'He painted over the gas tap and I couldn't turn it on'
Wol Euler: like the old jokes about quantity surveyors. "I couldn't examine the floor because there was a chair on it."
Agatha Macbeth nods
Wol Euler: in England in the 80s, you couldn't get a mortgage on a house unless it had been inspected by a QS, to ensure that it was sound
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth goes afk for coffee
Wol Euler: but they were useless, and dodged all responsibility. "I couldn't examine the walls because there was a painting hung on them."
Wol Euler: nonetheless you still had to pay for their report
Archmage Atlantis: How did I live without google and wikipedia for all those years......now I know French for "to each his own"
Archmage Atlantis: and who Flanders and Swann were
Wol Euler: :)
Zaldaan Sirnah: re.
Wol Euler: hello zaldaan, nice to see you again
Archmage Atlantis: Hello Zaldaan
Agatha Macbeth: Back
Wol Euler: wb
Agatha Macbeth: Re the inspectors
Agatha Macbeth: That's pretty typical of the UK
Agatha Macbeth: Zal, you look like Rodin's statue :p
Wol Euler: ha! yes
Agatha Macbeth: (Thinking deeply)
Agatha Macbeth: (Did I leave the iron on?)
Wol Euler chuckles.
Archmage Atlantis: Well, food and making sure his heating pad were on weren't all my duties.....he wanted to be held a few moments also.....but at 19, I guess he gets old kitty priviledge :)
Agatha Macbeth: 19, wow
Wol Euler: yep
Agatha Macbeth: That's old for a cat
Wol Euler: we should all be so lucky
Archmage Atlantis: Very, yes....I had to put in a step for him to get in the sun
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Archmage Atlantis: But he's pretty healthy all things considered
Agatha Macbeth: Glad to hear it
Archmage Atlantis: I still have the pictures of him riding on my shoulder and in my pocket......difficult to accept that much time has gone by :)
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, definitely
Agatha Macbeth: 'Who knows where the time goes' as Sandy Denny said
Wol Euler: hello boxy
Archmage Atlantis: Indeed
Alfred Kelberry: meep!
Agatha Macbeth: It no longer boxy Boxy!
Alfred Kelberry: woly girl :)
Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
Wol Euler: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
Alfred Kelberry: wow, woly...
Agatha Macbeth: Still with scarf tho
Alfred Kelberry: that's a... unusual outfit :)
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, boxy.......I keep not finding you when I look for you.....still looking for your other av :)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Where's Mila these days?
Alfred Kelberry: look for the scarf, archy :)
Alfred Kelberry: right here, aga :)
Archmage Atlantis: k
Agatha Macbeth grins
Alfred Kelberry: *purrs*
Agatha Macbeth: We already did the pussy jokes Alf...
Alfred Kelberry: ah, missed those :/
Wol Euler: always room for more, though
Agatha Macbeth: Hee
Agatha Macbeth: More pussy anyone?
Alfred Kelberry: fiery woly
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: *thinks he heard the bell two times*
Agatha Macbeth: You did Quazi
Agatha Macbeth: One was my watch :p
Archmage Atlantis: Now that I think about it, those jokes could be an electronic archaeological treasure some day *g*
Agatha Macbeth: Someone at WoK lastnight said it was a shame there was no bell in the café
Agatha Macbeth: So I gave them one
Alfred Kelberry: ouch
Agatha Macbeth: (Oops, rephrase that)
Archmage Atlantis: I understand that the hieroglyphs in Egypt have some jokes in them :)
Alfred Kelberry: i think the cafe is not the bell place
Agatha Macbeth: Keep your Aaron
Agatha Macbeth: Well, they got one anyway! So...
Alfred Kelberry: :/
Agatha Macbeth waves to see if Zal is awake
Alfred Kelberry: meep!
Agatha Macbeth: Probably not
Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
Alfred Kelberry: i should start a meepers club :)
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Jeepers meepers
Alfred Kelberry: wakaon
Alfred Kelberry: :P
Agatha Macbeth gets out her vuvuzela
Alfred Kelberry: uh oh
Alfred Kelberry: wakaoff
Wol Euler: that makes it friday.
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
Wol Euler: oh, where's mine?
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Eshi doesn't make them
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: stop
Wol Euler: onigokko
Alfred Kelberry: crazy people :)
Wol Euler giggles and waves to Obs as she goes past. What will your study make of us?!
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Archmage Atlantis: I do wonder, boxy, why the animation always keeps our feet under the floor
Agatha Macbeth: He probably knows we're mad
Alfred Kelberry: cause you sit
Wol Euler: because we were sittin when we started, arch
Archmage Atlantis: mad = insane, I assume
Agatha Macbeth: Cray-zee
Archmage Atlantis: Ah, thks Wol
Alfred Kelberry: aflac
Agatha Macbeth watches Koya onigokkoing
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: hallo berti
Archmage Atlantis: Do you suppose Zal is dancing in his sleep?
Wol Euler: just in time for friday.
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bertie :)
Agatha Macbeth: Guten Morgen
Alfred Kelberry: aflac
Bertram Jacobus: whaow - many people for this early hour ! :-)
Alfred Kelberry: berty :)
Agatha Macbeth: Many crazy people
Bertram Jacobus: sometimes crazy people are fine, sometimes seriousity i find ...
Agatha Macbeth: ...is boring! :p
Wol Euler: wow, bert the blonde pirate. What a change.
Archmage Atlantis: Ah greetings Bertram.......I'm on this ride till someone else pulls the plug :)
Agatha Macbeth: Arr Bert lad
Agatha Macbeth: stop
Alfred Kelberry: silence...
Agatha Macbeth: 'Now hear this'
Bertram Jacobus: what means aflag ?
Agatha Macbeth: Little Japanese dance
Alfred Kelberry: *hears birds singing*
Wol Euler: the anim that Boxy was doing
Bertram Jacobus: ah. ty :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Yaku gave it to us
Alfred Kelberry: i think it's a commercial
Agatha Macbeth: I'll go and buy some aflac then
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh 'ello
Agatha Macbeth: What be this Alf?
Alfred Kelberry: huge glass
Agatha Macbeth: Huge is right
Wol Euler: rather unwieldy
Agatha Macbeth: Especially when you type
Alfred Kelberry: from a bottle
Archmage Atlantis: So, a little Japanese dance, sold by a goose in a commercial.......at this time of day here, that makes perfect sense :)
Wol Euler nods.
Agatha Macbeth: At PaB all makes sense :)
Archmage Atlantis: Indeed
Alfred Kelberry: we could easily make ads for japan or korea
Wol Euler: what makes *no* sense is that I must leave you now, for that place and thing called "work"
Wol Euler sighs
Alfred Kelberry: aww...
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Alfred Kelberry: woly is leaving :(
--BELL--
Alfred Kelberry: *cries*
Agatha Macbeth: Remember to change first :p
Wol Euler: enjoy your fridays, my dears. Be nonsensical and happy
Archmage Atlantis: Bi Wol
Wol Euler smiles.
Alfred Kelberry: meep!
Agatha Macbeth: I must go too, take care all
Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
Wol Euler: see you this evening
Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully :)
Alfred Kelberry: poof
Alfred Kelberry: just like that
Archmage Atlantis: Ditto, tis the witching hour *g*....Blessings and Namaste
Bertram Jacobus: fewer people now ... :-)
Alfred Kelberry: yea
Alfred Kelberry: how's satia?
Bertram Jacobus: what do you study alf ? :-)
Alfred Kelberry: i study pabers :)
Bertram Jacobus: she's about one meter left to me :-)
Alfred Kelberry: ah, then say hi :)
Bertram Jacobus: she doesn't hear me - wears a headset - sry ;-)
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Alfred Kelberry: you can always pinch her :)
Bertram Jacobus: cool. what did you find out about pabers so far ?
Bertram Jacobus: ok. one moment pls
Alfred Kelberry: haha
Bertram Jacobus: she sait : "outch" :o)
Alfred Kelberry: ok, it works :)
Bertram Jacobus: yes ! :-)
Bertram Jacobus: but - what did you find out about pabers so far pls ?
Alfred Kelberry: it's classified :)
Bertram Jacobus: which classes are there ?
Alfred Kelberry: top secret :P
Bertram Jacobus: ah damn - so we must be silent now ?
Bertram Jacobus: i must admit and tell you a little secret : i don't like secrets so much. except when they protect people
Alfred Kelberry: i don't really study, i just observe and being present :)
Bertram Jacobus: but your name tag says sc student
Alfred Kelberry: ah, that
Bertram Jacobus: yes ! :-)
Alfred Kelberry: i don't see tags in v2
Bertram Jacobus: strange ...
Bertram Jacobus: weird
Alfred Kelberry: science circle has several classes in sl
Alfred Kelberry: starting in march
Bertram Jacobus: ah ! sc = science circle
Alfred Kelberry: right
Bertram Jacobus: science sometimes seems quite limited to me ...
Bertram Jacobus: they mostly don't consider the absolute ...
Bertram Jacobus: experiences seem often not to be so important, especially not when not always repeatable and such ...
Bertram Jacobus: i like the ratio of science, very much, but i miss the heart qualities often
Bertram Jacobus: the silence also ...
Alfred Kelberry: that's what pema says (i think) :)
Bertram Jacobus: what of all that pls ?
Alfred Kelberry: it's a valid concept for philosophy, but not so much in rl application to science
Bertram Jacobus: yes ... and often too complicated for me also. i like it simple ...
Alfred Kelberry: ok, i'm off
Alfred Kelberry: thanks, berty
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