The Guardian for this meeting was Bleu Oleander. The comments are by Bleu Oleander.

Pema Pera: hi Bruce!
Bruce Mowbray: We have lots of SPACE here this morning!
Bruce Mowbray: Good monring, Eliza!
Pema Pera: yes indeed!
Pema Pera: hi Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: Morning Bruce and Pema :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: one sec... finishing some scribblings
Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: hi all!
Pema Pera: hi Bleu!
Pema Pera: Hi Maxine!
Maxine Walden: hi Pema, slow to rez
Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Maxine!
Maxine Walden: hi, Bruce
Bleu Oleander: hi Maxine :)
Maxine Walden: feel a little distant over here :)
Pema Pera: :-)
Maxine Walden: there that is better
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu, Hi Maxine... you were a little distant over there :)
Maxine Walden: :) hi, Eliza and Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Pema Pera: Thank you for your reports! I really enjoyed reading them
Bleu Oleander: how is everyone?
Pema Pera: When I read Bruce's report, I was especially struck by its vividness
Eliza Madrigal: well, thanks Bleu... rediscovering how useful a pencil rather than pen can be, small delight of the day
Pema Pera: so direct, gut-level-like
Bleu Oleander: (couldn't find the "edges" of my thoughts enough to write a report this week)
Maxine Walden: yes, quite intense Bruce
Eliza Madrigal nods re Bruce's report
Pema Pera: (np, Bleu :-)
Maxine Walden: me sort of the same, Bleu
Bleu Oleander: very wide subject
Pema Pera: yes
Maxine Walden: thanks, Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: not much overlay in your report Bruce... dealing with what you have in hand
Pema Pera: that's why I added that paragraph "don't throw up your hands" -- hehehe
Bleu Oleander: threw them up ... guilty as charged :)
Pema Pera: (that was in response to Bleu and Maxine, not to Eliza!)
Eliza Madrigal smiles @ Bleu
Maxine Walden: :)
Bruce Mowbray: This week's assignment was a great help to me (emotionally) as I continue to deal with the situation with my elderly friend and family.
Pema Pera: the biggest challenge in exploring is to just make the next step . . . even if you have *no idea* of where that will lead to, or will have any meaning at all
Pema Pera: did you get a chance to talk with him, Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: Putting lots of space around it all -- simply observing what happens. . and with "broad allowing" for all of it.
Pema Pera: (thanks, Bleu, for taking the log !!)
Bleu Oleander: yw!
Bruce Mowbray: I'm stepped off the "tracks" and am letting the other folks handle this -- In other words, I have moved into a larger space that seems to surround all the drama. . .
Bruce Mowbray: but out of the drama itself...
Eliza Madrigal: your preparation may help your friend as well... one uncovers space then another can see a kind of baton to work with ?
Bruce Mowbray: I am surely seeing it that way, Eliza.
Bruce Mowbray: ty
Maxine Walden: how nice
Pema Pera: and it helped me as well, just reading your report, Bruce, and reminding myself to be more open in difficult situations
Pema Pera: very direct and practical!
Maxine Walden: 'face the music'
Eliza Madrigal: and dance :)
Maxine Walden: :))
Bleu Oleander: :)

--BELL--
Hana Furlough: Hi everyone~
Maxine Walden: hi, hana
Bleu Oleander: hi Hana
Bruce Mowbray: When I stepped back (using this week's assignment), I recognized that much of what I'd been doing had been quite emotionally reactive. . .
Pema Pera: Hi Hana, glad to see you here!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Hana, wonderful bubbly report :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Hana!
Bruce Mowbray loved the bubbles too.
Hana Furlough: bubbles?
Eliza Madrigal: oh, forgive me...
Eliza Madrigal: Lia :)
Bruce Mowbray: No -- That was Lia's report.
Hana Furlough: ahhh i see
Eliza Madrigal gigles... Hana is bubbly so easy to make that connection
Pema Pera: :-)
Hana Furlough: lol, thanks : )
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal puts down her champagne... bit too early pehaps...
Pema Pera: hahaha
Hana Furlough: lol
Hana Furlough: nice
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Pema Pera: I liked your key idea, Eliza, "My burden is light"
Bruce Mowbray ponders "Space" as neither connective nor separating -- but simply as Openness.
Hana Furlough: can you say more about that, bruce?
Eliza Madrigal: teasing out a bit of room in everything... making way for the light to pour in.... uncover
Maxine Walden: really appreciate exploring the edges of our thoughts or positions...find that is front a center a lot
Bruce Mowbray: Well, I feels that's partly what "My burden is light" means - for me, anyway.
Maxine Walden: thanks, Pema for that report
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Pema Pera: yw, Maxine :)
Bruce Mowbray: Not necessary to "connect" or to "separate" -- but simply to be open. . . and light.
Maxine Walden: yes, Eliza, loved your report
Eliza Madrigal: coming from a place of rest, thank you
Bruce Mowbray loved the "Mommying."
Hana Furlough: : )
Pema Pera: yes, the never-ending task!
Eliza Madrigal: so many of our questions do seem to be about connection though, or at least navigating the channels 'alone/together' ? @ Bruce
Pema Pera: and yes, Bruce, when trying to help somebody we tend to want to come up with solutions . . . . but the magic of space and time can also be called upon, we're just not used to even trying
Bleu Oleander: connections .... is that what is at the edge of thoughts?
Eliza Madrigal: when I hear Maxine's reports I love the way they are so sensitive to these waters
Pema Pera: yes, Bleu, boundaries as bridges
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Eliza, to be sure -- but I'm not thinking of honoring the space -- as an openness in with Time can make its presentations.
Bruce Mowbray: I am NOW thinking* (not NOT thinging!)
Bruce Mowbray: thinking*
Maxine Walden: :), Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: mmmm, ah, yes (hah, @thinging)
Bleu Oleander: hi Adams :)
Eliza Madrigal: Morning Adams :)
Maxine Walden: hi, Adams
Bruce Mowbray: honoring a broader openness in which or into which Time can make its appearances.
Pema Pera: Hi, Adams!
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Adams.
Hana Furlough: good morning, adams
Adams Rubble: Hell everyone. sorry to come late and interrupt
Eliza Madrigal: open sails
Adams Rubble blushes...hello
Maxine Walden: not at all, always welcome, Adams
Maxine Walden: Adams, we're musing about the various reports for this week
Pema Pera: glad to see you here, Adams!
Adams Rubble listens
Bruce Mowbray: "Looking at the edges of our emotions, our ideas, . . . "
Pema Pera: (we were all pondering space :-)
Hana Furlough: ha
Maxine Walden: pondering the soft-edged vs hard-edged thought...
Adams Rubble ponders
Bruce Mowbray: Is that a scary thing? To look at the edges, I mean?
Bruce Mowbray: "Do we dare to do that?"
Maxine Walden: :), what's to fear, Bruce?
Bruce Mowbray: Well, I'm quoting from Pema's chapter. . .
Bruce Mowbray: When I consider it in RL terms, then looking at the edges is scarier than looking at the space around those edges.
Eliza Madrigal: well, unnerving... have found myself listening to many political arguments lately, and hearing in each 'something' that just cant be right... no one can be 'right' it seems... which does feel like shaky ground :)

--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray: I need to back off. . . and take refuge in the space. . . I trust it more than the edges.
Bleu Oleander: observing how the 90 sec pauses have an edge, gentle perhaps, but still a boundary
Pema Pera: interesting, Eliza -- perhaps we all tend to overextend our position
Maxine Walden: pondering 'what to fear' and thinking that when I am feeling spacious ideas, mine or others, seem to be soft-edged and compatilbe but when I am feeling pressured, then they become hard-edged and often imcompatible, as if a combat of sorts is in the air
Pema Pera: hi Darren!
Pema Pera: nice, Maxine!
Darren Islar sneaks in
Bleu Oleander: hi darren
Adams Rubble: Hello Darren
Maxine Walden: hi, Darren
Hana Furlough: hi darren
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Darren.
Darren Islar: hi there :)
Maxine Walden: my experience of edges, it may seem obvious, seems to depend upon my internal sense of spaciousness
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Darren :)
Eliza Madrigal: what seems required to maneuver those kinds of waters would take a kind of, hm, love for openness that would surpass a need for 'rightness' which closes things... so hmm, nodding @ Maxine... 'what we bring'
Maxine Walden: :)
Eliza Madrigal: its our party, haha
Pema Pera: :-)
Bruce Mowbray: @ Maxine -- I have been claustrophobic my whole life -- and learned to cope with that by developing a sense of "inner spaciousness..." But it took some practice.
Maxine Walden: interesting, Bruce! and quite an achievement, I imagine
Pema Pera: I thnk we are all claustrophobic to a considerable extent, but since we're so used to it, it is hard to discover it, hard to look out rather than in
Eliza Madrigal nods
Pema Pera: (out and in here interchangeable as metaphors, :-)
Maxine Walden: agree, Pema, our insistent thoughts, must be right sort of thing makes us feel pressured inside...
Pema Pera: we hide from our hiding, close of our sense of being closed off . . .
Maxine Walden: as if we have to guard our precious thoughts...
Pema Pera: once we really see either, the battle is already more than half won
Eliza Madrigal: when we look closely there really seems no 'place' where one thing leaves off and another begins (inside/outside).. so maybe always a way to find spaciousness
Darren Islar nods
Darren Islar nods again
Bruce Mowbray: When I give my claustrophobia plenty of space - - - it ceases to be reactive. . . It's just there -- but much less controlling.
Maxine Walden: thoughts as possessions...when we can give up that notion, as in 'who can possess an idea?' maybe the openness is much easier
Eliza Madrigal: :)) loves the image of feeding space to the claustraphobia
Hana Furlough: : )
Pema Pera: :-)
Bruce Mowbray: "Broader allowing" of any emotional reaction -- rather than trying to subdue or suppress it.
Eliza Madrigal: picture of a little creature, hehe
Bruce Mowbray loves the notion of feeding space into space -- Like Pema's suggestion of feeding Time back into Time.
Pema Pera: letting space and time be . . . .
Adams Rubble: :)
Pema Pera: space and time in some way are our real parents
Hana Furlough: can you say more about that, pema?
Pema Pera: without whom we wouldn't be here
Pema Pera: out of which we come forth
Pema Pera: like any metaphor, I don't want to push it too far, but for me it is evocative
Pema Pera: hi Druth!
Hana Furlough: very nice
druth Vlodovic: hi all
Bleu Oleander: hi druth
Hana Furlough: hi druth!
Bruce Mowbray: Druth is looking spacious this morning.
Maxine Walden: good parents to have, Pema. Thanks
Adams Rubble: Hello Druth
Darren Islar: hi Druth
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Druth
Eliza Madrigal: so we can model ourselves after time and space... generously giving up credit?... for 'our' thoughts in some situations (just musing re Maxine's comment)
druth Vlodovic: please don't let me interrupt

--BELL--
Bruce Mowbray: Now she has edges! Ha ha!
Pema Pera: nice angle, Eliza!
Hana Furlough: yes!
Maxine Walden: yes, thoughts without a thinker...or coming from time and space
Eliza Madrigal: mmm
Pema Pera: awareness in space and time
Bruce Mowbray: . . . and knowing without a knower . . .
Maxine Walden: yes, soft-edged awareness permeating time and space (and us)
Maxine Walden: (not sure awareness has an edge at all...)
Eliza Madrigal: nothing I could 'hold back' from my children willingly, that would open/enrich their lives...
Pema Pera: perhaps awareness has edges that clarify, without limiting
Maxine Walden: would be interested to hear more, Pema
Bruce Mowbray ponders stepping back for a more spacious view -- to get clarity -- rather than moving "in" for a closer look at the edges.
Darren Islar: I guess we think awareness has edges because we experience it that way....
Hana Furlough: the big picture?
Darren Islar: but awareness and edges...... don't know.....

Pema Pera: our own experience seems to be limited, but perhaps awareness is the wider ocean in which our experience are the waves
Pema Pera: and the "edges" of waves blend in with the ocean

Pema Pera: are always already part of it
Darren Islar: (I would call that ego, to use a big word for once)
Eliza Madrigal: our view seen in the perspective/context of the open view of awareness...
Darren Islar: or maybe it is de densed 'me' in time and space
Adams Rubble likes the metaphor of our edges floating in the ocean
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Hana Furlough: nice, darren!
Bruce Mowbray will go for more spaciousness during the "drops" today. . . but needs to get off to Soul's Journey now for 'sitting.'
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks everyone!
Adams Rubble: be Bruce
Adams Rubble: bye
Pema Pera: thank you all for such an open-ended conversation :-) For next week we're read sections 11.8 and 11.9 of http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time/11._Space
Pema Pera: and bye Bruce
Bleu Oleander: bye Bruce
Maxine Walden: great
Hana Furlough: Bye, Bruce
Maxine Walden: and I must go as well. See you all
Pema Pera: I have to get going to, work calling
Hana Furlough: I should sneak out to
Bleu Oleander: thank you Pema
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks everyone... I'll linger at the edge of the next session to make space to allow Luci to appear...
druth Vlodovic: cya bruce
Hana Furlough: Good night!
Bleu Oleander: bye all
Adams Rubble: bye everyone. thanks!
Eliza Madrigal: :) Bye