2011.02.08 19:00 - Mirrors of Dignity

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

    There are treasures throughout this session: phoenix, Amaterasu and the mirror, dignity and the Egyptians, the watcher, turtles again, and at the end oO0Oo and Solobill touch it: Like we are a wellspring for which "it" to flow through

     

    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Winged One!
    Archmage Atlantis: Hey you
    Archmage Atlantis: hard to find a cushion that doesn't require me to sit demurely
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi Sam
    oO0Oo Resident bows to Arch and Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: /||\, oO
    Archmage Atlantis: na-mas-te


    Eos Amaterasu: What is the story of your wings, Arch?
    Archmage Atlantis: Met a phoenix avi, bought the avi, kept the wings
    Eos Amaterasu is stricken!
    Archmage Atlantis: I tend to collect things that mean something to me
    Eos Amaterasu: but being a phoenix avi it will surely rise again!
    Eos Amaterasu: perhaps as you, Arch
    Archmage Atlantis: My sl sister gave me the egyptian stuff
    Archmage Atlantis: my former sl partner gave me the kanji
    oO0Oo Resident smiles
    Archmage Atlantis: perhaps eos
    oO0Oo Resident: appreciate being such good friends with partners, before, during, after

    Archmage Atlantis: Hello, Aph
    Eos Amaterasu: Sorry, browser problems....
    Archmage Atlantis: I didn't look to see whose session this was
    Archmage Atlantis: Thks Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Aph
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Aphrodite
    Eos Amaterasu: (sorry, I entered a black-out somehow....) ... phew!
    Archmage Atlantis: np, E

    Archmage Atlantis: I was watching the telly and looked up, and it was time to come here.....odd how that happens

    Aphrodite Macbain: Are you celbrating Egypt's rising like a phoeniz arch?
    Archmage Atlantis: Interesting question Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: Phoenix.
    oO0Oo Resident didn't catch that insightful possibility in Arch's costume
    Archmage Atlantis: Sometimes, I think, the flame consumes the bird
    Aphrodite Macbain: his collar looks Egyptian, his wings are phoenix like
    Archmage Atlantis: Sometimes the bird needs a lift
    oO0Oo Resident: delicate balance arch
    Aphrodite Macbain: we all need a lift from time to time. just don't too close to the sun
    [oO0Oo disappears...]
    Aphrodite Macbain: where did samuo go?
     Eos Amaterasu: too close to the sun?
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: Doubt that......

     

    --BELL--


    Aphrodite Macbain: How do you feel as a woman Eos?

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    Eos Amaterasu: I am reflecting
    Aphrodite Macbain: and are you comfortable wearing those shoes?
    Aphrodite Macbain: upon what?

    The story of Amaterasu Kami

    Eos Amaterasu: Amaterasu Kami, the 'great being sky shining' (goddess of the sun)
    Eos Amaterasu: was closed up in a cave by her brother (long story....)
    Eos Amaterasu: So the crops failed, and the earth did not prosper.
    Eos Amaterasu: Then, she was tricked into looking out of the cave
    Eos Amaterasu: And saw a mirror
    Eos Amaterasu: Shining
    Eos Amaterasu: With great beauty
    Eos Amaterasu: That she recognized as herself
    Eos Amaterasu: And so she came out of the cave
    Aphrodite Macbain: female then?
    Eos Amaterasu: And the earth was warmed.

    Aphrodite Macbain: Eos is really femail?
    Archmage Atlantis: np, Sam.......Eos is telling us the history of humanity
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, Amaterasu is female (Eastern sun goddess)
    Aphrodite Macbain: a creation myth
    Eos Amaterasu: Eos is female (Western dawn goddess)
    Eos Amaterasu: Also illuminates something about identity
    Eos Amaterasu: Which I am now experiencing
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh. I always thought your avi was male
    Eos Amaterasu: as I reflect on being female....
    Eos Amaterasu: My avi was male
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's a trick of the light
    Eos Amaterasu: love, sister, it's just a checkbox away, ...
    Archmage Atlantis: We are many sexes in and of ourselves.....the first life on any surface must reproduce
    Eos Amaterasu: This was all last minute (last few hours) just before the Art of Being session Sunday
    Aphrodite Macbain: what was happening during those last minutes?
    Aphrodite Macbain: You were discovering yourself anew?
    Eos Amaterasu: I got a scene and a female skin/shape and clothes so I could make the photo
    Eos Amaterasu: but then I looked in the mirror :-) !
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hah ha
    Aphrodite Macbain APPLAUDS!!!
    Archmage Atlantis: The second life must protect the first


    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    oO0Oo Resident waves to Stevenaia
    Eos Amaterasu: ~ ~ ~
    Archmage Atlantis: Greetings, Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: Hi arch
    stevenaia Michinaga: you look egyptian tonight
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi ELiza
    Archmage Atlantis: It is an artifact, given to me by one for who I care
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi E!
    oO0Oo Resident smiles at Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi E!
    stevenaia Michinaga: I love gifts of that nature
    Eliza Madrigal: :) And Hi Steve, and oO0Oo, and Arch, and Aphrodite :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: my last male avatar was a gift such as that
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hiya Eliza
    Eos Amaterasu: I have been really struck by the civilization of the egyptians, especially when watching/listening to them directly
    stevenaia Michinaga: you mean currently?
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, Tahrir Square etc
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: It has had a 4000 year history
    Eos Amaterasu: everyone talks about restoring their dignity
    Eos Amaterasu: the very best of human aspiration - you can feel it, it's tangible
    Eliza Madrigal: watched a video this evening ... google exec who went back for the protests, was jailed ... so moving what he described "no heroes" "all heroes"
    Eos Amaterasu: and people recognize it in each other
    Eliza Madrigal: not google... wait... let me get it
    Eos Amaterasu: plus, they pause fives times a day!
    Archmage Atlantis: No need, Eliza......it lives within us all


    --BELL--


    Aphrodite Macbain: There are many different factions competing. The police, the army, the ecret police, the person on the streeet
    Eliza Madrigal: Not to watch it now, but his voice somehow reaches a deep place in everyone... dignity is just the word: just you tube Wael Ghonim I guess if interested :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: all tired of being disenfranchised
    Aphrodite Macbain: I worry who and what will fill the vacuum
    Eos Amaterasu: especially the franchise of themselves
    Eos Amaterasu: that's what the dignity part is about
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- democracy takes a while to set up and make happen - see Russia and Iraq for instance
    Eos Amaterasu: but the inner spirit is right there right now :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes agree concern there, yet also poignancy of people speaking directly
    Eos Amaterasu: lots of conversations happening
    Eos Amaterasu: lots of self-organizing
    oO0Oo Resident: have heard HH Dalai speak positively of democracy and demacratic reform of Tibet in public talks for decades.
    Eos Amaterasu: but it is fragile, cause lots of pressures that brought about need to demonstrate and rise up in the first place
    oO0Oo Resident: One reference: http://is.gd/hnb7kS
    Eliza Madrigal clicks...
    Eos Amaterasu: One thing Dalai Lama has made really public is idea that you don't have to hate your 'enemies'
    Eos Amaterasu: kind of rad
    Aphrodite Macbain: HHDL has given up trying to convince China to give back Tibet to the Tibetans but he is pushing for allowance of the practice of Tibetan ulture in Tibete
    oO0Oo Resident: and when you say really clear Eos (smiling), it really is clear
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm' taking responsibility 'as if there is no dalai lama doing it'... 'you're it' on the spot
    oO0Oo Resident: glad for HH
    Eliza Madrigal: (snippets from the end of that page along with own outbursts)
    oO0Oo Resident: need his example
    Aphrodite Macbain: As HHDL is Buddhist he would never advocate violence
    Aphrodite Macbain: but sympathetic action. He would say, love thine enemy!
    oO0Oo Resident: he has a spotless record in my eyes
    Aphrodite Macbain: educate the heart as well a the mind
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes Samuo, in mine too
    oO0Oo Resident: two wings, as paradise so kindly put it
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: two wings?
    Aphrodite Macbain: heart & mind?
    oO0Oo Resident: two bodhicittas?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I've just finished Karen Armstrongs12 steps to a compassionate life. so wonderful
    oO0Oo Resident smiles
    oO0Oo Resident: made that list Aph?
    Aphrodite Macbain: she quotes HHDL constantly, along with Christ, Mohammed,
    Aphrodite Macbain grins sheepishly
    Aphrodite Macbain: nope
    stevenaia Michinaga: list?
    Eliza Madrigal: she's very inspiring in her way of letting those figures relate with one another
    Aphrodite Macbain: Ghandi
    oO0Oo Resident: Sorry, only if Aph cares to
    Eos Amaterasu: We should invite them to a session :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's wonderful how sh can synthesize w/o bein facile about it
    Eliza Madrigal: :)


    --BELL--


    Aphrodite Macbain smile at Eos
    oO0Oo Resident: what does facile mean please?
    Aphrodite Macbain: superficial - too easy
    oO0Oo Resident: ty
    Aphrodite Macbain: yw!
    Eos Amaterasu: Actually the amazing thing about the Egyptians in the square is that this stuff is built in: you just have to let go the pressure, the suppresion, and it comes out
    Aphrodite Macbain: what stuff Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: the goodness in the faces, the talk that turns to dignity, ....
    Aphrodite Macbain: It was alwys there - the media finally recognized it
    Eos Amaterasu: starting at the end (heh heh): the fruition of civilization, people being decent
    Eos Amaterasu: At least that possibility is being acknowledged
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. a fine moment that wont be forgotten.
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: and in all these things, there is the 'situation we're in' every day and what's to see in this light
    Eos Amaterasu: I don't know if the "media" recognizes it, but when they step back and let the Egyptians speak,it comes through
    oO0Oo Resident: Yes, Eos, I find particularly, extreme circumstances often lend more opprtunity for what you describe. I vacillate between making things too easy and too hard, then it's all a kind of gift eventually
    Aphrodite Macbain: I remember this happening in the 80s when the Sandanistas took power in Nicaragua. Overthrowingthe dictator, Samosa
    Eos Amaterasu: Early days of Solidarity in Poland had this feeling
    Aphrodite Macbain: "For the flash of this moment, you are the best of what you are". Bruce Cockburn
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Yes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes - exactly Eos
    Aphrodite Macbain: very inspiring. How to sustain it?
    Eos Amaterasu: put it in every detail of your daily life
    Aphrodite Macbain: I felt that way when Obama was elected
    Aphrodite Macbain: hope
    Eliza Madrigal: mm
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, indeed
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do you agree Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: very much so... worked quite hard during that campaign... how I learned of SL :)
    Eliza Madrigal: twittering away... haha
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Cool
    Aphrodite Macbain: what a thrill that must have been
    Aphrodite Macbain: harnessing the social network
    Eliza Madrigal: he exudes that 'dignity' quality and it was about that in some sense...
    Eos Amaterasu: in a way the people in Egypt are less trapped than Obama is
    Eos Amaterasu: cause they are breaking out of being beholden
    Eliza Madrigal: yes well there is quite a machine isn't there
    Aphrodite Macbain: one has to have respect for oneself before one can exude that dignity
    Eliza Madrigal: when we see it, gears turning, we are waking
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cal! :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening, familiars :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Cal!
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Cal...looking fresh!
    oO0Oo Resident: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: will be musing 'dignity' as I fall asleep... which I really must do, full full day
    oO0Oo Resident: sometimes in those gears
    oO0Oo Resident: like the great wave
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Eliza
    Eos Amaterasu: bye Eliza, dig 'nighty

    oO0Oo Resident: Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm....
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Friends :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sleep well Eliza
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must be off as well, , see you soon
    oO0Oo Resident: :) Stevenaia
    Eos Amaterasu: Ciao, Michi

    oO0Oo hears critical voices...

    oO0Oo Resident: Is anyone else getting vague 'voice' commentary?
    Aphrodite Macbain: No...
    Eos Amaterasu: No....
    oO0Oo Resident: I'm hearing voice
    Eos Amaterasu: Calvino seems to have mostly disappeared....
    Eos Amaterasu: whups, now back
    oO0Oo Resident: that's speaking critically of the discussion
    Aphrodite Macbain: Maybe it's someone's radio
    Aphrodite Macbain: someone who has their voice turned on..
    oO0Oo Resident: no, not radio


    --BELL--


    Aphrodite Macbain whispers..'gotta go to"
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye!
    oO0Oo Resident waves bye to Aph
    Eos Amaterasu: Bye Aph

    Eos Amaterasu: Any more voice, Samúð?
    oO0Oo Resident: No... stopped after I mentioned it, but had been going for a few minutes. Quite specific and snarky
    Eos Amaterasu: Hmm, color commentary
    oO0Oo Resident: and...ahem...distinct from the...ahem voices in my head ;)
    Eos Amaterasu: oh, those :-)


    Eos Amaterasu: How was Art of Being Self for you, oO0Oo?
    oO0Oo Resident: well, in reading the overview Bleu, I believe, had on the wiki, I realised that it was designed as a 2 month exploration, but my leap was last second, and people helped me, and it felt good to be a part of.
    Eos Amaterasu: :-)
    oO0Oo Resident: ty for asking. How was it for you?
    Eos Amaterasu: I'd been somewhat thinking about it and reflecting on it for the last 2 months, but did not actually do anything till literally the last few hours
    Eos Amaterasu: so in a way for me this is just beginning!
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: the exploration was through the two names I had taken on when entering Second Life
    oO0Oo Resident: Cal? Did you have an hand in the events?
    Eos Amaterasu: Eos and Amaterasu, both dawn goddesses, of west and east, both female of course
    oO0Oo Resident: sorry Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: np
    oO0Oo Resident: double sun
    Calvino Rabeni: No Samuo, my hand in it was limited to attending the final discussion :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Solobill
    Solobill Laville: Hello folks :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Solo
    Solobill Laville smiles at o000o
    oO0Oo Resident: i liked the view of your picture at the Dome, with the cosmic cube as a backdrop Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: Ah, Calvino's cube?
    oO0Oo Resident: is it?
    Calvino Rabeni: The cube showing nebula belongs to Lucinda


    --BELL--


    Eos Amaterasu: I somehow walked into it and found myself in space :-)
    oO0Oo Resident wonders... what exactly IS dignity...and does it actually depend on something/s
    Solobill Laville: Is it externally judged, or an internal process?
    Eos Amaterasu: from the experience of watching the Egyptians, it seems internally recognized
    Solobill Laville: I can view your behavior and say you are "dignified", for example
    Eos Amaterasu: they are volunteering it about themselves
    Solobill Laville: Yes, and I can think to myself, I must be dignified...
    Eos Amaterasu: they brought up the topic :-)
    Solobill Laville: Why do you ask, o000o?
    oO0Oo Resident: Previous discussion, to some degree about Egyptian people Solobill
    Solobill Laville nods
    Eos Amaterasu: they are saying, they own their own futures
    oO0Oo Resident: Funny, just now realising how I have always made a connection in my mind with ancient Egyptian relics, as being dignified
    Solobill Laville: Dignity would be resultant from a new government?
    Eos Amaterasu: now they are waking up!
    Eos Amaterasu: dignity might lead to a new government
    Eos Amaterasu: but more fundamentally it seems to be a way to be, to be in your own skin
    Eos Amaterasu: through your own direct perceptions and truth
    Eos Amaterasu: out of that comes.... lots of dialogue
    Eos Amaterasu: lots of conversations
    Eos Amaterasu: lots of self-organizing
    Solobill Laville: Is there a thin line that divides dignity from pride?
    Eos Amaterasu: lots of being unafraid to meet
    Eos Amaterasu: yeah, nothing is for granted
    oO0Oo Resident: maybe pride is like making an extra thick badge out of a dignified encounter
    Eos Amaterasu: or it gets crusted over, yes
    Calvino Rabeni: I think of dignity as a quality of being that people have that is visible to others .. a relaxed naturalness and presence that feels calm
    Solobill Laville smiles at Cal
    Solobill Laville: yes, so dignity as externally perceived then? I'm thinking that may be the way I see it
    oO0Oo Resident smiles at Cal
    Solobill Laville: The internal variety may be tied to pride, the not-in-a good-way pride, perhaps
    oO0Oo Resident: the internal is still evaluated by watcher?
    Solobill Laville: Sorry, I'm making this interpersonal, not Egyptian-global :)
    Eos Amaterasu: the watcher is like Gollum
    oO0Oo Resident: np
    Calvino Rabeni: Its an interesting question .. how "internal" qualities are really present for all to notice


    --BELL--


    Solobill Laville: I agree Cal, but what is this "watcher"?
    Eos Amaterasu: Our pupils are raw brain
    Calvino Rabeni: Mostly I think our social minds
    oO0Oo Resident: watcher like gollum Eos?
    Solobill Laville: Ah
    Eos Amaterasu: sticks to you
    Calvino Rabeni: There's a little bit here, a little bit there .. hosted in multiple places
    oO0Oo Resident: touch and go?
    Solobill Laville: What do you mean by "raw brain", Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: touch and touch, more usually
    oO0Oo Resident: still gollum?
    Solobill Laville is trying to catch up
    Eos Amaterasu: there's a "retina display" through the pupils, that's part of the brain
    Solobill Laville: OK
    Solobill Laville: and how does that relate to the watcher, or gollum?
    Solobill Laville: Or am I lost? :)
    Solobill Laville: (not the first time)
    oO0Oo Resident: i use watcher in the sense of that which notices
    Eos Amaterasu: [20:29] Calvino Rabeni: Its an interesting question .. how "internal" qualities are really present for all to notice
    oO0Oo Resident: in our own experience
    Eos Amaterasu: this is where "Me seeing, Being seeing" is apropos....
    Solobill Laville: OK...I'm good now, thanks, Eos and o000o (need a shorter moniker for you ;))
    oO0Oo Resident: 0 works solo
    Solobill Laville: thx
    oO0Oo Resident: Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: ¿
    Solobill Laville: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: me seeing...
    Eos Amaterasu: oh
    Solobill Laville: Who is the watcher, 0? In a metaphysical sense
    Eos Amaterasu: that's one of the "framings" for pausing....
    oO0Oo Resident: OK ty
    Eos Amaterasu: like switching from "me watching", from my narrow cone of me-ness
    Eos Amaterasu: to being seen
    Eos Amaterasu: you're not the spotlight of awareness
    Solobill Laville: In my experience, there is that which notices, which is not what this mind-body has programmed to be "me"
    Solobill Laville: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: yeah
    oO0Oo Resident: ty both
    Eos Amaterasu: and the "go" part of "touch and go" cuts through endless recursion
    Eos Amaterasu: there are no turtles :-)
    Eos Amaterasu: ie, how to drop the watcher....
    Solobill Laville: mmmm...just to verbs..watch...hear...breath
    oO0Oo Resident: then dignity has no witness
    Eos Amaterasu: !
    Solobill Laville: :) indeed dignity has no meaning, in one sense
    oO0Oo Resident: or is all pervasive
    Eos Amaterasu: yeah, it can quickly be recognized all over the place :-)
    oO0Oo Resident: good morning!
    Eos Amaterasu: Maybe no meaning re not being about anything, really
    Eos Amaterasu: but about not having to be swayed by anything, or being able to let anything be
    Eos Amaterasu: touching the earth
    Eos Amaterasu: perhaps extreme circumstances can help drive that
    Eos Amaterasu: (like food prices shooting up 50 to 100% in less than a year)
    Eos Amaterasu: (when 80% of your income goes to food)
    Solobill Laville: that is a most profound act, touching the earth
    Calvino Rabeni needs to make a semidignified exit
    Calvino Rabeni: thank you for your presence, everyone
    Solobill Laville: No judgment here, Cal, good night
    Calvino Rabeni: and good evening
    Eos Amaterasu: Thanks, Cal.
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: be well Cal
    Eos Amaterasu: I need to go as well - past midnight....
    Calvino Rabeni: ty , you also
    Solobill Laville: 'night, Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: Thanks Samúð and Calvino and Solobill


    --BELL--


    oO0Oo Resident: bye Eos
    oO0Oo Resident: good morning
    Solobill Laville: good morning!
    Solobill Laville: Are you well, 0?
    Solobill Laville is comfortable breaking the silence, when appropriate
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: I OK Solobill
    Solobill Laville: good
    Solobill Laville: Have you come here for a while? (I'm an old-timer who drops in when I can)
    oO0Oo Resident: I have been in SL for a bit over a month, and PaB, somewhat less than that. Yaku invited me
    Solobill Laville nods
    Solobill Laville: I don't know what PaB really entails these days
    Solobill Laville: Generally discussions like we've been having
    oO0Oo Resident: I don't know enough to make comparisons
    Solobill Laville: I know Yaku :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Feel lucky to have met him early in my SL experince
    oO0Oo Resident: *
    Solobill Laville: Right, I think maybe there is a feeling of the do-somethings (like actively meditate and practice) or the talk-alots (this is me talking, not representing PaB in any way)* disclalimer (and I still like the talk-alots)
    Solobill Laville: PaB initially started as a practice and sharing group, though I do see value in meeting and sharing and talking generally, we all have unique needs and are at our own places
    Solobill Laville: Your profile makes you sound like a meditator, yes?
    oO0Oo Resident: interesting. I didn't know that. It feels to me to be both compelling to many people, and also naturally engenders compassion and wisdom... so in a sense good for the relative world IMHO
    Solobill Laville: I think it can do that in all cases, yes.
    Solobill Laville is regretting his talk-alot comment
    oO0Oo Resident: I don't fel I can divide the doers/meditators and the talkers quite so neatly, i also cannot come down fully on calling myself anything in particular. I meditate sometimes, and i study a little, and I practice a little. I like to catch myself starting anew when possible, although that is now a hackneyed phrase
    oO0Oo Resident: ffeel*
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe
    oO0Oo Resident: feel*
    Solobill Laville: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: it's really great for me to talk with 'old timers' ;) I mean there IS elder wisdom there
    Solobill Laville: I should clarify; there is a very intellectual movement (as there has always been I think) that wants to discuss and argue many things that are not arguable


    --BELL--


    Solobill Laville: IMHO ;)
    Solobill Laville: that was quick
    Solobill Laville: Anyway... :) There is some force, I think, that naturally draws us towards searching for something
    Solobill Laville: and that something is often inward
    Solobill Laville: strangely enough
    oO0Oo Resident: I encounter that style you describe Solobill, and it is in a way paradoxical, that persons with enormous intellect, sometimes place themselves in a framework, that does not bring them happiness, or peace
    Solobill Laville: oh yes
    oO0Oo Resident: me too
    oO0Oo Resident: I am am not immune
    Solobill Laville: It's like the captain going down with their ship
    Solobill Laville: The good ship HMS Intellect ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe good comparison
    oO0Oo Resident: and SL adds layers to this in a way
    oO0Oo Resident: further away from our bodies
    Solobill Laville: Well, in my exerience there is something much more fundamental; that travels through us, like creating music or prose or poetry
    oO0Oo Resident: potentially
    oO0Oo Resident: expressed how?

    Solobill Laville: Like we are a wellspring for which "it" to flow through

    Solobill Laville: Intellect can block that - because it is not-understandble, in the common sense
    oO0Oo Resident: and do you recognise differnces in RL presence, to SL gatherings?
    Solobill Laville remembers back
    Solobill Laville: SL is the great equalizer in terms of much of the social baggage we carry
    oO0Oo Resident nods
    Solobill Laville: I don't know if you are male, female, GLBTQ. etc.
    Solobill Laville: So all there is, is, "you"
    Solobill Laville: Right?
    oO0Oo Resident: or is it you?
    Solobill Laville: and vice versa
    Solobill Laville: yep
    oO0Oo Resident: hehe
    oO0Oo Resident: that explains
    Solobill Laville: So, all I know, of what we share, is, what we share
    Solobill Laville: So we are truly, in an envirnoment like this, in a place of communication
    oO0Oo Resident: so many keyboards... the colon and the right parenthis is worn down
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Solobill Laville: But, of course, there are still subtle things going on I'd think
    oO0Oo Resident: more and more subtle
    oO0Oo Resident listens
    Solobill Laville: Wow, my keyboard is new, shiny colons :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Solobill Laville: i do think that that is a key part of SL's intrigue, do you?
    oO0Oo Resident: key is value neutral appropo...intrigue.... subtle...a scent on the wind... a sudden sharp pain... an exposure, a cold isolation, a warm situation, a knowing, a thinking i know, then a ground taken from under feet
    oO0Oo Resident: key


    --BELL--


    oO0Oo Resident: different for everyone
    oO0Oo Resident: layers of subtlety.... and we are alone
    Solobill Laville: we are alone...and we are everything, everything...don't forget that :)
    oO0Oo Resident: every day, every hour, every minute, is a flicker between the two
    Solobill Laville: Alone actually becomes meaningless; it's based in looking at ourselves in comparison to something *other*
    Solobill Laville: There is no *other*; it is all within Big Mind
    oO0Oo Resident: true... a reminder to try to be of more service, and less selfish
    Solobill Laville: Well, that's a lot of pressure. Maybe just "be" is good enough, the rest will flow out of that, perhaps.
    oO0Oo Resident nods
    oO0Oo Resident: ya
    Solobill Laville: I remembered on Sunday that honesty flows of out being natural, it's something that's hard to force
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Solobill Laville: Same with service, or generosity, etc.
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Solobill Laville: ok...I think it's bed time for Bonzo here
    Solobill Laville: nice chatting with you O, sorry I was such a blabbermouth
    oO0Oo Resident is speechless
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    oO0Oo Resident smiles and smiles
    Solobill Laville: OK, good night then, take care :)
    oO0Oo Resident: u2
    oO0Oo Resident: ty
    Solobill Laville: thx

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    What a wonderful session, full of life, the waves of Egyptian revolution reaching our shores :)
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