2011.02.10 19:00 – Enduring Love

The Guardian for this meeting was Paradise Tennant. The comments are by Paradise, stevenaia, Kit, oOOOo, Faery and Lucinda

stevenaia Michinaga: hi oo0oo
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Stevenaia
oO0Oo Resident: I like your pearls
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks, a lovely gift
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Kit
Kit Ciaco: Hi ya!
oO0Oo Resident: you have pearls too Kit... pearls of wisdom
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Paradise
Kit Ciaco blushes
oO0Oo Resident: hey paradise
Paradise Tennant: hiya stevenaia .. kit good to see everyone :)
oO0Oo Resident: OK Kit... this interview will last approximately 1 hour
oO0Oo Resident: lol
Kit Ciaco: Hey, Paradise! You're not a fog anymore!
Kit Ciaco: cool!
Kit Ciaco: LOL!
Kit Ciaco: should I have worn my heels???
Paradise Tennant: smiles nice to be out of the fog :)
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, you were gray all last night
stevenaia Michinaga: I'm sure it was me
Kit Ciaco: Grey and foggy - well, some days are just like that!
Paradise Tennant: smiles sl is a funny place some times
oO0Oo Resident nods
Paradise Tennant: making mint tea brb
oO0Oo Resident: Hi Faery
Faery Serendipity: hello
Paradise Tennant: welcome faery have you been to pab before :)
oO0Oo Resident: nice to meet you
Faery Serendipity: no, I'm new
Faery Serendipity: nice to meet you too
Paradise Tennant: let me give you a notecard
Kit Ciaco: Welcome!
Faery Serendipity: ty
stevenaia Michinaga: Hello Faery
Faery Serendipity: hello
Paradise Tennant: this is discussion group that meets four times a day to compare notes on life :) so to speak :)
Faery Serendipity: do you mind if I sit in?
oO0Oo Resident: np
Paradise Tennant: please join us
oO0Oo Resident: glad to have you here
Paradise Tennant: the chat logs are recorded
stevenaia Michinaga: we encourage it
Paradise Tennant: they are posted to a wiki site that records our ramblings :) do you object to your comments being included if you do I can edit it out
stevenaia Michinaga: (sitting in)
oO0Oo Resident: and it is not required to say anything either
Paradise Tennant: lol you cannot snooze through the entire session if that is your preference and then just read the chat log at your leisure :)
Faery Serendipity: OK I was reading the card :)
Paradise Tennant: we mostly try to explore reality..the reality of what it means to live .. to be to perceive .. on all sorts of different levels :)
Faery Serendipity: sounds interesting.
Kit Ciaco: sometimes we come for the free ice cream....
Faery Serendipity: LOL..yum
Paradise Tennant: lol
oO0Oo Resident: and placenta pudding
oO0Oo Resident: placenta
Faery Serendipity: ew
Faery Serendipity: gotta get those particles from somewhere :)
oO0Oo Resident: sorry... reference to previous discussion
Faery Serendipity: No problem
stevenaia Michinaga: must have been
--BELL--
stevenaia Michinaga: I had an interesting conversation today with a friend of mine....
oO0Oo Resident looks at steve
stevenaia Michinaga: she explained to me that she finally understood that she cold love (in this instance her husband of 3 years) and that it can continue growing with time
stevenaia Michinaga: something that many never find to be true, and others understand and accept easily
stevenaia Michinaga: but interesting when someone crosses that moment
stevenaia Michinaga: when they understand something new
Faery Serendipity: so was she thinking she loved him before?
Faery Serendipity: or think she did?
stevenaia Michinaga: abut something you can’t learn from anyone but yourself
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, but never loves in this way before
oO0Oo Resident: which way Steve?
stevenaia Michinaga: they way where you feel it will not diminish with time and may actually continue to get more intense with time
Paradise Tennant: smiles ok that is our topic if I may ... "Enduring Love"
stevenaia Michinaga: some thing don't get old... yes Paradise
stevenaia Michinaga: her husband said to her... you are the smartest person I know... but you can really slow sometimes
stevenaia Michinaga: *can be
stevenaia Michinaga: I suspect he already crossed that threshold
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps the reason he got married in the first place :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I've always felt that about "Enduring Love"
stevenaia Michinaga: something you can find but cannot explain to someone who has not felt it
stevenaia Michinaga: (you do spell-check when you post logs, Paradise?)
Paradise Tennant: lol yes
Paradise Tennant: you are doing a wonderful job of explaining :) always good to speak from experience :)
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks, and it speaks to the adaptability of each of us to what surrounds us, one minute you don’t see it, the next minute you are enlightened, or in this case in love
oO0Oo Resident: I hugged, what looked like an English sheep dog today, and I felt a lot of confidence that that dog would love and accept me, just as I am, for the rest of it's life.
Paradise Tennant: smiles yes.. dogs get it :)
stevenaia Michinaga: so do cats
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps easier than people
Paradise Tennant: smiles fubu loves you with endurance :)
oO0Oo Resident: kids have a knack
Paradise Tennant: yes .. they are simpler
Paradise Tennant: more black and white
Paradise Tennant: not all the confusing gray
Kit Ciaco: I think possibly because they do not think everything to death....
oO0Oo Resident: less judgment
stevenaia Michinaga: as do feeling of most parents for their children
oO0Oo Resident: yes steve
--BELL--
Kit Ciaco: sometimes it is enough to be without thinking of being....
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps even to the point of self sacrifice
Paradise Tennant: yes
Paradise Tennant: instinctive parental love but almost really all love is instinctive
Paradise Tennant: it helps us survive
Faery Serendipity: love for children is instant for most
Paradise Tennant: it helps us become what we really are
oO0Oo Resident smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: or helps the next generation become what we would like
stevenaia Michinaga: a reflection of us
Kit Ciaco: I hope my kids are not reflections of myself
Kit Ciaco: but blossoms of their own selves...
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Kit Ciaco: And if you knew me you would appreciate this all the more
Kit Ciaco: sigh
Faery Serendipity:  I've noticed I am a lot like my parents in things I never saw as a kid...it's as if attitude is genetic
Faery Serendipity: and my daughter is like me in ways beyond explanation
oO0Oo Resident smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: you learn by sensing things, not by what is fed you
Paradise Tennant: for love to endure ..what has to be present?
stevenaia Michinaga: flexibility
oO0Oo Resident: appreciation
stevenaia Michinaga: as applied to everything
Kit Ciaco: self awareness and self affection
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, continued appreciation
stevenaia Michinaga: so much can change over time
Faery Serendipity: love changes over time
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Paradise Tennant: I think I would add space
oO0Oo Resident: or there are different kinds, and layers and parallels
Paradise Tennant: you have to make the space for it in your life ..in your attention and intention.. and not allow other preoccupations to overwhelm :)
Kit Ciaco: excuse me - gotta scram - ya'll have a good evening!
Paradise Tennant: good nite kit sweet dreams
oO0Oo Resident: night Kit
Faery Serendipity: good night
oO0Oo Resident: yes para, to make the space, to give the space and the attention
oO0Oo Resident: to realize the inherent sacredness
oO0Oo Resident: and tentativeness
oO0Oo Resident: of our lives
Paradise Tennant: shall we do a poem go round on enduring love?
Faery Serendipity: ??
Paradise Tennant: faery we sometimes write impromptu poetry
Faery Serendipity: ok
Paradise Tennant: each person does a line and the next follows
oO0Oo Resident: or passes
Faery Serendipity: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: line by line, person by person, usually in a counter-clockwise direction
Paradise Tennant: O would you like to start then steve ?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, no pressure
stevenaia Michinaga: lol
stevenaia Michinaga: gulp
Paradise Tennant: lol
oO0Oo Resident: moi?
Faery Serendipity: nothing with the word orange
stevenaia Michinaga: oui
Paradise Tennant: lol
stevenaia Michinaga: Sam?
stevenaia Michinaga: you're on
oO0Oo Resident: mmm...
--BELL--
oO0Oo Resident: thinking...
stevenaia Michinaga: I can if you wish
oO0Oo Resident: you go ahead steve...
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Enduring Love.... began before... you knew... before the light...
stevenaia Michinaga: yet you can catch it like a cold
Paradise Tennant: mm
Paradise Tennant: one day sneezing "I do”.. in swirl of embracing lace .. only to find deep within me .. a shared we ..
Faery Serendipity: pass...I'm not that clever
Paradise Tennant: smiles it grow you on :) this poetry thing :)
oO0Oo Resident: yes, sometimes it flows, and sometimes...
Faery Serendipity: :)
Faery Serendipity: love is complex...it changes and has so many personalities
oO0Oo Resident: yes, it's one of those words that means many things
stevenaia Michinaga: with that complexity is an enduring simplicity of human nature
Faery Serendipity: so when you say enduring love, do you mean love that lasts?
Paradise Tennant: not only lasts .. refines the vessel that holds it :)
Faery Serendipity: 2 people like swords that sharpen each other
oO0Oo Resident: ooooh! nice
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps closer to reality than we care to acknowledge :)
Faery Serendipity: love in my life right now means tolerance
Paradise Tennant: acceptance works too :) all seem part of the package
stevenaia Michinaga: tolerance is acceptance and openness
Faery Serendipity: enduring through everything..may not be warm fuzzies, but it has its comforts
--BELL--
Faery Serendipity: I am going to go...but it was great meeting all of you, I'm sure I will be back
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks for joining us
Paradise Tennant: smiles enjoyed your visit with us hope to see you soon :) thanks
stevenaia Michinaga: nice to meet you
Faery Serendipity: thank you
oO0Oo Resident: nice to have your presence faery
Paradise Tennant: what I wonder at is sometimes nothing seems to change on the outside it is all inside but then it is always all inside ..turtles all the way down :)
oO0Oo Resident: Wikipedia: 'Styles of Love' http://is.gd/zbQQ5g I often think of love in terms of conditional (e.g. garden variety passion) and unconditional e.g. parent for child) Thich Nhat hanh, said in a book I read, that eventually, love and understanding become the same.
Paradise Tennant: hiya luci we are talking of enduring love :)
Lucinda Lavender: ah!
Paradise Tennant: ooooo i like that
Paradise Tennant: love as understanding
stevenaia Michinaga: or beyond understanding
Paradise Tennant: I some time think it is note we all resonate too.. :) like a ripple in a pond we all react
stevenaia Michinaga: an enduring note of love (in the key of "L")
oO0Oo Resident: perhaps the infectious quality Stevenaia mentioned
Paradise Tennant: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: sounds more like string theory (that resonates)
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: smiles love made of strings that tie us together
stevenaia Michinaga: just another quantum particle
stevenaia Michinaga: you see it until you try to look at it
stevenaia Michinaga: then it's there but you can't find" it
Paradise Tennant: http://thebridescafe.typepad.com/my_...-entry-17.html
oO0Oo Resident clicks
Paradise Tennant: I did a search on enduring love and came up with the photo of a couple who have been married 59 years
Paradise Tennant: or 58 years a very long time
--BELL--
Paradise Tennant: smiles they very obviously clicked
Paradise Tennant: lol
Paradise Tennant: yes
Lucinda Lavender: amazing faces
stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes it's that easy and meant to be
oO0Oo Resident: amazing graces
Paradise Tennant: they have smiled alot you can tell
Lucinda Lavender: smiling
Paradise Tennant: well I will have to say good nite I am hosting a country get away weekend .. and have not really done very much in the way of organizing yet :)
Paradise Tennant: thank you stevenaia .. o000o Lucinda always such a pleasure to sit with you
stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy paradise
Lucinda Lavender: hope you have a great weekend
stevenaia Michinaga: I must go too
oO0Oo Resident: have fun paradise
Lucinda Lavender: waving too
Paradise Tennant: sweet dreams full of lasting love :)
Lucinda Lavender: yes for all ...
Lucinda Lavender: yes...
oO0Oo Resident: yes, for all
Lucinda Lavender: think about a sensation of belonging...
Lucinda Lavender: in families...
--BELL--
Lucinda Lavender: I think I will go now as well...sweet dreams to you SAmuo...
oO0Oo Resident: ty Lucinda, and to all

 Enduring Love....

Began before... you knew... before the light...
Yet you can catch it like a cold
One day sneezing "I do”.. in swirl of embracing lace .. only to find deep within your  core .. the me .. is really we ..