The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.

Eos Amaterasu: Hi SophiaSharon
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Eos :)
Eos Amaterasu: How are you being?
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
Eos Amaterasu: Are you in post-retreat bardo?
SophiaSharon Larnia: thinking its kind of ironic that i come here to rest, and communication is by text
Eos Amaterasu: Ah!
SophiaSharon Larnia: I havent experienced that, no, I think real life contact may create that
Eos Amaterasu: we can rest here in the space of not needing to go anywhere
SophiaSharon Larnia: perfect!
SophiaSharon Larnia: :0
Eos Amaterasu: this place has enough enoughness!
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)*
SophiaSharon Larnia: that was my retreat experience actually
Eos Amaterasu listens
SophiaSharon Larnia: cleaned my plate of the little things and sat around all day
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: wow, that's the way to do it
SophiaSharon Larnia: luxurating in not needing to go anwhere or do, and wondering what is so important that i feel i have to most of the time
SophiaSharon Larnia: and then i forgot that lol
Eos Amaterasu: stuff happens :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: how are you being?

The mirror, again...

Eos Amaterasu: I think okay...
Eos Amaterasu: doing a little play as being the amaterasu-ey part of me
SophiaSharon Larnia: what was it about her reflection?
SophiaSharon Larnia: that it was echoed mirrored int he world?
Eos Amaterasu: that's just such a great story:
Eos Amaterasu: to see something brilliant and shining
Eos Amaterasu: to be attracted to it, to find it beautiful
SophiaSharon Larnia: and she didnt see that before?
Eos Amaterasu: and then to realize that it's reflecting you
Eos Amaterasu: no, she had been in her cave (locked up by her brother Storm :-) !
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Eos Amaterasu: but that's reflecting in the shock of identity in seeing myself in this female shape and skin
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Gorden
Gordon Valeur: hi! Sophia
Gordon Valeur: can'[t see you

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: where's gorden?
SophiaSharon Larnia: in what way Eos?
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh he couldnt see through the trees i guess lol he left
Eos Amaterasu: oh, there's a different quality of being seen, being reflected
Eos Amaterasu: of being conscious of your appearance, and also of how that enriches
Eos Amaterasu: (this is eos the philosopher talking :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eos Amaterasu: heh heh
SophiaSharon Larnia: being seen by others
Eos Amaterasu: yes, a different quality of that
SophiaSharon Larnia: usually ive been worried about being deceptive in some way when talking to others as a male alt, which is me centered
Eos Amaterasu: hmm, I haven't really experienced that: I'm still in the Eos "identity"/AV, though I changed the shape and skin
SophiaSharon Larnia: (even tho it doesnt read that way now that i look at it)

Eos Amaterasu: there was definitely a kind of shifty feeling the last few months
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
Eos Amaterasu: lots of alts :-)
Eos Amaterasu: never sure who was zooming who :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
Eos Amaterasu: like some of those Shakespeare plays where everyone is pretending to be someone else
SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
SophiaSharon Larnia perfers the typist
Eos Amaterasu: "the typist"

The recent SL retreat...

Eos Amaterasu: Any thoughts about the retreat space, by the way?
SophiaSharon Larnia: the actual space or the container? :)
Eos Amaterasu: yes
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eos Amaterasu: both
SophiaSharon Larnia: it would nice to have it be longer
Eos Amaterasu: interacting
Eos Amaterasu: this was 2 days
Eos Amaterasu: December was 3
SophiaSharon Larnia: and a large group is my preference, I want to include everyone, but a smaller group may be more useful
Eos Amaterasu: I think the 7 plus or minus 2 thing holds....
SophiaSharon Larnia: there were 10 of us for many
SophiaSharon Larnia: Im conflicted on the 2, large, smaller, more meditation, more talking
Eos Amaterasu: it's different: take what you can get :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: it arises as it does for its own reasons
Eos Amaterasu: but just in the time it takes to go around the circle: 9 people takes an hour average

self-organizing mind

SophiaSharon Larnia: a theme seemed to be self organizing mind
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes! indeed
Eos Amaterasu: hmm
Eos Amaterasu: I was kind of seeing that in the Egyptian revolution, Tahrir Square
SophiaSharon Larnia: at least one of the topics discussed, and a lot about boundaries
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh?
SophiaSharon Larnia: can you say more?
Eos Amaterasu: sponantaneity that allows for self-organization;
Eos Amaterasu: self-organization which emerges leadership
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
SophiaSharon Larnia: where is the edge there
Eos Amaterasu: in Egypt part of the edge is coming from dire necessity: food prices skyrocketing, no employment, etc.
SophiaSharon Larnia: Ive been thinking a bit about Pema last chapter in regards to self organizing mind and boundaries :)
Eos Amaterasu: real earthy stuff

--BELL--

SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
Eos Amaterasu: space allows letting be which allows letting express in itself which allows communication
Eos Amaterasu: How do we find self-organizing mind and boundaries here?
SophiaSharon Larnia: here?
Eos Amaterasu: in PaB land/space/time

riding waves of topics in logs...

SophiaSharon Larnia: have you ever sat back and looked at the logs with a soft eye, and seen topic emerge, being talked about over several days
Eos Amaterasu: Oh, those logs
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Rolans
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Roland
Eos Amaterasu: I was looking at the bookshelf in the pub on Sunday
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh?
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Roland, have you been to Play as Being here before?
SophiaSharon Larnia: not just in scribes, Eos, I see that often
SophiaSharon Larnia: different typists
SophiaSharon Larnia: like there are waves and we ride them in turns
Eos Amaterasu: yes, I think I've sometimes felt that
SophiaSharon Larnia: I dont know if thats self organizing
Eos Amaterasu: strange attractors we help create but are not so much aware of even
SophiaSharon Larnia: catch a mind stream
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes

Silly digression...
Eos Amaterasu: we throw out carrots in front of ourselves, and then follow those
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
Eos Amaterasu: like Winnie the Pooh looking for the North Pole
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes dangle dangle
Eos Amaterasu: maybe we could do an "active pets" Art of Being project
SophiaSharon Larnia: active pets?
Eos Amaterasu: the species around us also take part in PaB
Eos Amaterasu: the parrot was one example....
Eos Amaterasu: or an elephant that walks up and says, "pause for 9 seconds"....

SophiaSharon Larnia: I ve been missing session, i miss the good stuff
SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh that bookshelf, i just realized what you were talking about
Eos Amaterasu: it has notecards
SophiaSharon Larnia: i need to update that!! Just like there are so many things i need to do
SophiaSharon Larnia: i need to update that!! Just like there are so many things i need to do
Eos Amaterasu: hah hah
Eos Amaterasu: yes
SophiaSharon Larnia: finish the wiki
Eos Amaterasu: I'm glad you found the retreat restful
Eos Amaterasu: or are still finding it :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: I read the guardian session log, it sounds like so much fun!!!!
Eos Amaterasu: hi stevenaia
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Steveaia
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Eos, Roland, Sophia
SophiaSharon Larnia: I saw your little dots converging on the mini map during the retreat and was sooo curious ^^
Eos Amaterasu: oh.... you were looking down on us from the heavens?
SophiaSharon Larnia: i was :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, i dont like to say it because i may miss a retreat but longer would be good
Eos Amaterasu: then it would stretch more than a weekend
Eos Amaterasu: but that's doable for some, sometimes

--BELL--

Roland Maven: Hello and peace
Roland Maven: Hello and peace
SophiaSharon Larnia: how are you being, Stevenaia? (to steal from Eos:) )
stevenaia Michinaga: I have been good,
stevenaia Michinaga: things always have an interesting twist to them, always worth watching
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eos Amaterasu watches

people around are tormented by their environment

stevenaia Michinaga: people around are tormented by their environment
stevenaia Michinaga: and I don;t see why
SophiaSharon Larnia: can you say more?
stevenaia Michinaga: just the frustrations that some peole find in life can be creations of their own making
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, i see how I set myself up for that at itmes
stevenaia Michinaga: opps did not mean you
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: i know )
SophiaSharon Larnia: i meant in general
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
stevenaia Michinaga: but in general, I don;t find such situations
Eos Amaterasu: there'
stevenaia Michinaga: there?
Eos Amaterasu: sry
stevenaia Michinaga: lol
SophiaSharon Larnia: wonderful Stevenaia :D
Eos Amaterasu: so if you're experiencing such frustrations....
Eos Amaterasu: what do you do?
SophiaSharon Larnia: see what im doing is usually enough
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles, I don;t
stevenaia Michinaga: we know the same people and have completel different "takes" on them, she judges, I do nor
stevenaia Michinaga: t
stevenaia Michinaga: I accept
SophiaSharon Larnia: there was a time i found that very easy to in sl, and less in rl
SophiaSharon Larnia: finding it easier in rl
stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps it will male the jump to RL
SophiaSharon Larnia: especially over the last year
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eos Amaterasu: intersting process
Eos Amaterasu: learning in SL
Eos Amaterasu: sticks with you in RL
SophiaSharon Larnia: a lot has happened/not happened this year
SophiaSharon Larnia: a lot has happened/not happened this year
stevenaia Michinaga: I don;t belive the solution to much oof anything resides in frustrating and stressing yourself
SophiaSharon Larnia: a hindrance to a solution
stevenaia Michinaga: or a diversion away from a solution
Eos Amaterasu: yes, how to solidify things even further
Eos Amaterasu: of course, playing as something, solidifying it further, can also lead to relaxing
Eos Amaterasu: intensify to let go
stevenaia Michinaga: nods, play is not usually frustrating
SophiaSharon Larnia: thinking
Eos Amaterasu: really let go
Eos Amaterasu: because you didn't know how much you were clinging
stevenaia Michinaga: playing is letting go
SophiaSharon Larnia: and by realizing how much you cling, you can let go?
Eos Amaterasu: you find yourself clinging - ouch!
Eos Amaterasu: and you let go!
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: I think you can let go of something you cling too, like yin and yang
stevenaia Michinaga: no cling, no letting go
stevenaia Michinaga: no cling, no letting go
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Eos Amaterasu: :-)

--BELL--

SophiaSharon Larnia: is ready to let go of being awake for the day
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eos Amaterasu: Well, I must let go, and go, likewise
SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: night sophia
Eos Amaterasu: thank you so much for delightful conversation
stevenaia Michinaga: bye eos
Eos Amaterasu: good night SophiaSharon and stevenaia
SophiaSharon Larnia: :) good night, take care Eos and Stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: thinking I'll read yesterdays log
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
stevenaia Michinaga: :)