2011.02.15 07:00 - Ye Olde Reality Realty

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

Special shout-out to my Birthday Girl, Anya.

                      --BELL--
     Riddle Sideways: Hi Druth! did not hear you tip toe in
     Riddle Sideways: Hi Yak
     Yakuzza Lethecus: hey you two
druth Vlodovic: I'm sneakly
Riddle Sideways: on soft slippers
    druth Vlodovic: hi guys
Riddle Sideways: something about those slippers says well a dressed Yak
Riddle Sideways: ah, flowers fill the air
druth Vlodovic: flower fairies
Yakuzza Lethecus: little fairy´s
Riddle Sideways: yes they are, were hard to focus on and see that
Riddle Sideways: maybe better after the coffee hits
druth Vlodovic: was at a sim with rain once, I was worried I'd get hit by one of the great plates that were crashing down from the sky
Riddle Sideways: ummm, is Valentines day celebrated around the world?
     druth Vlodovic: hi sun
     Riddle Sideways: Hi Sun
     Sunshine Vayandar: hi all ;)
     Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sun
Sunshine Vayandar: I gave up on the potleaves
druth Vlodovic: hey! no stealing my lines!
druth Vlodovic: aww
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: whose line is it anyway hmm
druth Vlodovic: put on your fairies and we'll fill the sky
     Riddle Sideways: Hi Xira
     druth Vlodovic: a new face, hi xira
     Xirana Oximoxi: hi Riddle :)
     Yakuzza Lethecus: hey xirana, bruce
Riddle Sideways: join us in the flowing faries circle
     Xirana Oximoxi: hello all
     Sunshine Vayandar: hi xira ;)
     Xirana Oximoxi: hi Yaku, Sun, druth :)
druth Vlodovic: darn, I thought it was catching
Xirana Oximoxi: how can I join the flowing circle, Riddle?
Riddle Sideways: just experience it
Xirana Oximoxi: ah ok ty:) I will try :)
             Greetings
druth Vlodovic: I keep imagining what would happen in real life if I walked up to a half dozen friends and greeted them all by name and demanded the same in return
Riddle Sideways: who called in the fairies
Sunshine Vayandar: in africa people sometimes greet the whole day
Sunshine Vayandar: almost ;p
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, thought we did greet by names
Riddle Sideways: first names at least
Riddle Sideways: when we can remember it
Riddle Sideways: some people are named 'there'
druth Vlodovic: where I am you generally only get one or two per walk-in no matter the group size
Riddle Sideways: hi There
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i live in a village almost everyone greets everyone here
Sunshine Vayandar: I live in a small town
Sunshine Vayandar: I know lots of people well
Sunshine Vayandar: and their families
Sunshine Vayandar: so often we stop for a chat
Riddle Sideways: ok druth, you mean like each new person walking into a biz meeting mid-day
Riddle Sideways: all 10 ppl have to say Hi Druth
druth Vlodovic: or the lunch room at work
druth Vlodovic: lol, I'd probably run away
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Riddle Sideways: now am imaging that the 9 ppl hold up :) emoicon signs each time you say something
Xirana Oximoxi: I live i a small village too, but normaly just say hell when cross someone in the road...
                      --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: hell?
Sunshine Vayandar: ã‹¡
Xirana Oximoxi: lol sooorry *hello!!!!
Yakuzza Lethecus smiles silently :)
Riddle Sideways: typos are so much fun
Yakuzza Lethecus: freudian slip
druth Vlodovic: I've had that reaction too, but it's not really the same
Xirana Oximoxi: yes.. really fun mistakes!
Riddle Sideways: or when you run into somebody you've not seen for a long while, you could say ouch
Xirana Oximoxi: but I wanted to say that usualy we don't stp to talk about families and so on... just with the closer:)
    Riddle Sideways: hi Observ
druth Vlodovic: three guys walked into a bar, the fourth ducked
Riddle Sideways: :)
    observerm Resident: hello
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Observem
Riddle Sideways: the social interaction game
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi observe
Riddle Sideways: whom and when you can interact with and to what level
druth Vlodovic: the only game where you get to make up whatever rules you like, but you can never tell anybody what they are
Riddle Sideways: SL has that too
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, I agree, SL as it too... and you interact with the ones with whom you share some interests..
Riddle Sideways: and children know and don't know those rules automagically
Xirana Oximoxi: but here it's easy also to interact with others that don't share interests.. at least for a short time
druth Vlodovic: easier to pick and choose
Xirana Oximoxi: you can meet all kind of people and I find it interesting too
Sunshine Vayandar: SL is great ;)
druth Vlodovic: to kids people just sort of appear, and then they are there and you continue living, not like adults who need to know who and why
Sunshine Vayandar: I like when I don't see the person in RL - and start a conversation without knowing the age, gender etc
Riddle Sideways: last time several sims here were down. All manner of avs pile up in some common land
Riddle Sideways: starting a chat with a pencil
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Riddle Sideways: and a furry
Sunshine Vayandar: what did the pencil say
             Darn, what a great place to have inserted a punchline.
Riddle Sideways: oh was very nice
Riddle Sideways: wondered how long before it's SL area would come back online
Riddle Sideways: chatted just like you or I
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) a nice pencil then
Xirana Oximoxi: what do you mean pencil' ???
druth Vlodovic: I wonder what sort of sim a pencil would hang out in
Riddle Sideways: not at all like mine here in RL
Sunshine Vayandar: lol
Xirana Oximoxi: a tool to draw?
Riddle Sideways: X, I met an avatar that looked like a pencel
Sunshine Vayandar: yes - an avi looking like a pencil
Xirana Oximoxi: ahhh ok!!! :)

     How about introducing a topic :)
Riddle Sideways: on a completely different subject
Riddle Sideways: during awaking up this morning
Riddle Sideways: I could not spell the difference
Riddle Sideways: between reality and realty
Riddle Sideways: (course I have to spelt correct here for ref)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Riddle Sideways: thought the longest time about them being the same
Sunshine Vayandar: it happens to me a lot
Riddle Sideways: that was a very neat/strange/exciting thoughts
Sunshine Vayandar: suddenly I start to wonder about a word that i use often ...
Xirana Oximoxi: well.. my English is not very good.. just now I've had to look it up :)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: I often look up things also
Riddle Sideways: looked it up also and got lost off into the missing of including "i" in real-i-ty
Riddle Sideways: making a lot of difference
                      --BELL--
Xirana Oximoxi: oh yes... reallly.. how different two words can be just with a different letter
Sunshine Vayandar: it's interesting how I got used to English here in SA
Sunshine Vayandar: ops ;)
Riddle Sideways: :) is ok
Xirana Oximoxi: see what happened to me with 'hell' at the place of 'hello' :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: yes lol
Riddle Sideways: yes
Sunshine Vayandar: what a differencce
Sunshine Vayandar: you say hell to someone
Riddle Sideways: (not sure is yak is here but) I was looking at http://www.thefreedictionary.com/reality
Riddle Sideways: and saw that the definition splits off 'Philosophy' and takes the "I" out.
Xirana Oximoxi: nooo never say 'hell' it's too bad
Yakuzza Lethecus: i looked real estate up
Riddle Sideways: changes the Collins dict. meaning
druth Vlodovic: if you read some older books they often have "creative spelling" very wise and educated men using three different spelling for the same word on the same page
Yakuzza Lethecus: not sure what reality is real tho :)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: The totality of all things possessing actuality, existence, or essence.
Riddle Sideways: always thought reality is as reality does - Forest Gomp
druth Vlodovic: it's what we say it is
Xirana Oximoxi: and all things f reality , just have a meaning to us, when we have a word to express them
Sunshine Vayandar: what would we do without words
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm for example - if we could only express ourselves through music
Sunshine Vayandar: or colors
Riddle Sideways: or colours
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
Riddle Sideways: or humour
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Sunshine Vayandar: szinek - hungarian
Sunshine Vayandar: colours - szinek
Sunshine Vayandar: same meaning - totally different sounding word
Riddle Sideways: things like "pass the potatos" would sound so musical
Sunshine Vayandar: yes lol
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe
    Riddle Sideways: Hi ya Zen
     Sunshine Vayandar: hi Zen ;)
     Xirana Oximoxi: hello Zen :)
     Zen Arado: Hi All :)
Riddle Sideways: we were speaking about reality (or realty)
Riddle Sideways: are you for it or agin it
Zen Arado: hmmm
Riddle Sideways: (sorry, favorite line)
Zen Arado: have to be for it I guess
druth Vlodovic: so far it's a tie
Sunshine Vayandar: for reality?
Zen Arado: no resistance
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zen
Zen Arado: yes
druth Vlodovic: ach! we have to keep it now!
Sunshine Vayandar: keep it?
Riddle Sideways: probably one of those can't live with it and can't li... poof
Zen Arado: how do you not keep it?
druth Vlodovic: democracy, we have all decided by authority of the majority to remain real
Zen Arado: peole try to abolish it
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) how can I make sure that I am real
Zen Arado: by building illusions
Sunshine Vayandar: ( am I following things hmm )
Xirana Oximoxi: to be or not to be :)) that's the question:)
Zen Arado: you aren't Sun :)
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Zen Arado: 'all dharmas are dreams'
druth Vlodovic: we make sure we are real by building illusions, interesting thought
Riddle Sideways: it is
Zen Arado: reification it's called
Zen Arado: we have reality by consensus
Zen Arado: a shared illusion
Riddle Sideways: hhmm, I had to look that up
Riddle Sideways: :) zen is right spelling
Zen Arado: we build together
Sunshine Vayandar: yes he is
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
druth Vlodovic: I imagine that all of you share my reality, what further proof do I need that it is real?
Zen Arado: sorry I'm dogmatic today :)
Zen Arado: it's ust what I have read
druth Vlodovic: what have you read?
Zen Arado: these kind of ideas
Zen Arado: makes sense to me
Riddle Sideways: problem is that I have been reading the dictionary
Zen Arado: think we all see reality differently tho
Zen Arado: a slightly different version
Riddle Sideways: yet we announce that ours is the only reality
Sunshine Vayandar: i sometimes wonder how things work out when we all see differently
Zen Arado: depends on our conditioning
                      --BELL--
druth Vlodovic: ask a policeman who has to obtain witness statements about subjective reality lol
Zen Arado: yes :)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes, we all see reality differently, but to understand between us, we agree to some common references related to this reality
Riddle Sideways: or watch a "Reality" tv show
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
druth Vlodovic: erg, or try to avoid them
Zen Arado: exactly Xirana
Riddle Sideways: lol
Xirana Oximoxi: we can talk about 'tree' and we all have an image of it... but if you asl everyone to paint it, we can have as much different pictures as persons
druth Vlodovic: "choose your illusion" -metallica (I think)
Riddle Sideways: at least we think we are agreeing to the same definitions
Sunshine Vayandar: that would be strange if everyone painted the same tree
Zen Arado: there is a kind of consensus reality
Riddle Sideways: ha very strange
Sunshine Vayandar: almost scary
Riddle Sideways: they would call in the doctors
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Riddle Sideways: but, that is the way it is defined
Riddle Sideways: but, would not be normal
druth Vlodovic: I wonder sometimes what it would be like to live in a country where everyone was the same,
Riddle Sideways: "Don't talk to me about Reality..." - Marvin the paranoid robot
Zen Arado: once saw 10 people copy the same painting in an art class
Zen Arado: and all so different!
Sunshine Vayandar: Druth living in Druth land
druth Vlodovic: would it drive me nuts, or do I just think it would because I live where everyone is different?
Riddle Sideways: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack
druth Vlodovic: ok, sun answered for me, I would go nuts

Zen Arado: everyone thirsty ..:)
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Zen Arado: (Druth means thirst in Ulster Scots)
Xirana Oximoxi: and I've seen an online work of art online, that consistd in 1000 sheeps drawed of different people... no one was equal
Sunshine Vayandar: really
Zen Arado: yep
Sunshine Vayandar: 1000 sheep ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: makes me sleepy
Zen Arado: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: haha
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
Riddle Sideways: lol
Yakuzza Lethecus: now i am wake again
Riddle Sideways: :)
druth Vlodovic: reminds me of this skit on cloning, "look, this sheep looks just like this other sheep!"
Zen Arado: woke me up
Xirana Oximoxi: do you also have this story.. to count sheeps when you can not sleep in Africa?
Sunshine Vayandar: cloning is scary
Zen Arado: nothing in nature is identical
Zen Arado: they say
Zen Arado: no two snowflakes as you all know
Sunshine Vayandar: no actually I never heard it here - so in hungary nobody would think of counting sheep when they can't sleep
Riddle Sideways: what if one day you found the 2 identical snowflakes
Sunshine Vayandar: lol I am mixed up about here
Sunshine Vayandar: Hungary or South Africa
Sunshine Vayandar: but - no sheep counting in either ;)
Riddle Sideways: must be an us thing of counting sheep
Xirana Oximoxi: oh! in Spain we say that when man can't sleep, the best to do is count sheeps :)
druth Vlodovic: probably british, lots of sheep in the UK
Xirana Oximoxi: a silly thing :)
Zen Arado: no they talk of it in UK too
Zen Arado: we exportaed the technique to US Ruddle
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Zen Arado: yes
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
druth Vlodovic: ah, it's finished, what were you making zen?
Sunshine Vayandar: Mr Bean was on TV a few days ago
Riddle Sideways: it seems so arogant to say 'us'
Zen Arado: making?
Zen Arado: USA
druth Vlodovic: your hands keep going about like you are holding a ball
Sunshine Vayandar: he couldn't sleep and put a pictures of sheep in front of him and started counting
Zen Arado: ah ok
Riddle Sideways: really like your typing AO zen
Zen Arado: just AO
Sunshine Vayandar: but it was too many sheep
Sunshine Vayandar: so he got his calculator
Riddle Sideways: oh yes, we were talking sheep
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Zen Arado: :)
druth Vlodovic: (the poor people, haven't even named their country yet, ;-> )
Sunshine Vayandar: and when he finished counting it was a big number
Sunshine Vayandar: and he immediately fell asleep
Zen Arado: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)).. I think I've seen it also:)
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Riddle Sideways: ever awaken and have forgotten the number you got up to
Sunshine Vayandar: number?
druth Vlodovic: you have to do it again

Zen Arado: anyone do breath cointing?
Zen Arado: counting*
Riddle Sideways: ha, tried that too
Riddle Sideways: lost the count
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Zen Arado: that's the idea tho
Riddle Sideways: Stim made me do it
Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
Zen Arado: you realize you are thinking
Zen Arado: yes
Zen Arado: good for beginning meditation
Sunshine Vayandar: so good for me ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: I will test today
Riddle Sideways: just hate it when I fail meditation class
Riddle Sideways: the tests are sooo hard
Sunshine Vayandar: what do u mean Riddle
                      --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: humour (almost)
druth Vlodovic: 11
Zen Arado: think we all afil Riddle (generalizing)
Riddle Sideways: :)
druth Vlodovic: did I pass?
Zen Arado: :)
Zen Arado: nope
Sunshine Vayandar: pass what?
Zen Arado: suppose to not go over 10
Sunshine Vayandar: 10 breaths?
druth Vlodovic: hmm, I gave 110%
Riddle Sideways: 11 in 90 sec
Zen Arado: you can vary tho
Zen Arado: should have done as an exercise in last break
druth Vlodovic: ha! you all failed
    Xirana Oximoxi: I go now.. see you soon and nice time to all :)
    druth Vlodovic: have fun xira
Zen Arado: ok I can think and count at the same time
    Sunshine Vayandar: take care Xira ;)
    Xirana Oximoxi: ty:)
Zen Arado: I always fail
    Riddle Sideways: yes, need to go find and deal with some reality
    Riddle Sideways: bye
    Zen Arado: bye Xira
druth Vlodovic: maybe I should sing next time
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Zen Arado: sure :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Riddle
druth Vlodovic: watch the agents riddle, they can be tricky
Riddle Sideways: Real i Ty
    Zen Arado: thanks and bye all
Riddle Sideways: who needs it
    Riddle Sideways: thanks everybody
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
     druth Vlodovic: cya zen
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
     druth Vlodovic: and yaku
Sunshine Vayandar: oh everyone is gone hmm
Sunshine Vayandar: almost ;p
druth Vlodovic: reality agents, "This is a nice one, the neighbourhood is a little run down, and not much excitement, but lots of potential"
Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
Sunshine Vayandar: sounds like my place
druth Vlodovic: where are you guys heading now?
Sunshine Vayandar: I go to Paradise
Sunshine Vayandar: u wanna come?
druth Vlodovic: ohh, sounds nice
druth Vlodovic: sure
Sunshine Vayandar: ;D
Sunshine Vayandar: can tp you
druth Vlodovic: ty
Sunshine Vayandar: uh still not working
druth Vlodovic: ??
Sunshine Vayandar: somehow I couldn't tp
Sunshine Vayandar: earlier
Sunshine Vayandar: u can also try any of those LMs
druth Vlodovic: ah, maybe a restart
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm it's been longer than an hour
druth Vlodovic: there, just wanted to turn off my recorder
Sunshine Vayandar: oh were u the guardian today
druth Vlodovic: "failed to grant capabilities, maybe it's group only today?
Sunshine Vayandar: yes I get the same message
Sunshine Vayandar: so put on my tag
druth Vlodovic: no, but the recorder goes until we leave or it gets turned off
Sunshine Vayandar: but still same message
Sunshine Vayandar: ah ok