2011.02.13 01:00 - Sunday is a lonely day

Wol Euler was guardian for this session.

eggsalad Ormstein: and here's wol! hi!!
Wol Euler: good morning!
eggsalad Ormstein: just barely morning here, but thanks
Sunshine Vayandar: evetyhing takes longer to appear these days

--BELL--

Sunshine Vayandar: it's 11am here
eggsalad Ormstein: my time *is* sl time :)
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: convenient
Sunshine Vayandar: how are you both ;)
Wol Euler: brb, need coffee
eggsalad Ormstein: yes, because I'me bad at "time maths"
eggsalad Ormstein: well, my work week just ended and my weekend is here, so you!
Sunshine Vayandar: wow egg it's 1am?
eggsalad Ormstein: yes ma'am
Sunshine Vayandar: Wol is Fresh and tasty ;)
eggsalad Ormstein: oh is she?
Sunshine Vayandar: yes ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: and hearty
Wol Euler grins.
Sunshine Vayandar: I feel out without hearts ;)
Wol Euler: well, this outfit was only $50 :)
eggsalad Ormstein: all good to know
Wol Euler: there, that's also a solution :)
Sunshine Vayandar: I am looking in the bag ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: for hearts and things ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: may be this is too much hehe
Wol Euler sips her coffee and smiles. "How are we all today?"
Sunshine Vayandar: I am doing the retreat this weekend
eggsalad Ormstein: my weekend has just begun, so I'm wahoo!
Sunshine Vayandar: so I am calm and collected ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: yay hope you will have a nice weekend egg ;)
eggsalad Ormstein: mee too, I may have a hike
Wol Euler: sounds good. Both do :)
Sunshine Vayandar: I could do with weekends during the week too
Sunshine Vayandar: how are you Wol
Wol Euler: fairly slow, spending the weekend napping mostly
Wol Euler: catching up on lost sleep
Wol Euler: and reading a lot
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: I was forced to sleep last night ;p
Sunshine Vayandar: had to turn computers off
Wol Euler: heheh
Sunshine Vayandar: there was a big storm
Sunshine Vayandar: anything nice you are reading
Wol Euler: Tom Boellsdorf talked about a book called "My life as a night-elf priest", about World of Warcraft, so I ordered that. (I play WoW)
Wol Euler: it's well written and very sympathetic to gaming
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm I never tried it
Sunshine Vayandar: how is WoW
Wol Euler: she has opposite views to mine about the relative beauty of SL and WoW
Sunshine Vayandar: ahh so this is what WoW is ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Zon ;)
Zon Kwan: hi all
eggsalad Ormstein: hi zon
Wol Euler: well, it's not SL :) Anyone who thinks SL might be a game should try WoW or something like it, the difference is clear.
Wol Euler: hello zon
Sunshine Vayandar: is WoW free to play?
Wol Euler: WoW is different, it's great fun
Sunshine Vayandar: some of my friends are really into it
Wol Euler: I believe that there are free accounts, yes, but they are restricted in meaningful ways
Wol Euler: you can try it for free
Sunshine Vayandar: ok I might try ;)
Wol Euler: though be prpared for a 6 gigabyte download :)
Sunshine Vayandar: omg ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: how does one download that
Wol Euler: slowly :)
Wol Euler: takes all day
Sunshine Vayandar: ommmmm
eggsalad Ormstein: afk
Wol Euler: one of the differences between WoW and SL is that here it's all one single huge world. You log in to SL and have (in theory) access to every person who is also inworld

--BELL--

Sunshine Vayandar listens
Wol Euler: in WoW, there are hundreds of servers, all duplicates of each other. You create an acount on a particular server, and can only meet other people who also created themselves on that single server
Wol Euler: so if you already know players, do try to join the same server they are on.
Wol Euler: else you'll never meet themn
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm ok
Sunshine Vayandar: I tried different worlds
Sunshine Vayandar: but SL is still the best for me
Wol Euler: agreed :)
Sunshine Vayandar: I like things like PaB
Wol Euler: but it depends on what you want to get out of the experience
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: to me, being able to create my own avatar is extremely important
Wol Euler: being able to choose and change how I look
Sunshine Vayandar: ;) yes I love that too
Wol Euler: in WoW that isn't possible. You can change hairstyle and colour, but that's it.
Wol Euler waves silently to Obs.
Wol Euler: and I really miss that.
Sunshine Vayandar: but what is it that you love about it
Wol Euler: right
Sunshine Vayandar: my friends are really crazy about it
Wol Euler: for people who just use SL as a kind of chatroom, that would be not so importatnt
Wol Euler: and for gamers whose interest is in slaughtering monsters, it is of course irrelevant what colour boots you wear :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Wol Euler: there are no profiles in WoW, there's no way to publish info about yourself like you can here
Sunshine Vayandar: I always say I am too quiet and peaceful to play war
Wol Euler: I thought that too :)
Sunshine Vayandar: but you never know till you try
Wol Euler: but it is great fun
Wol Euler: yep
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: I am many times surprised about myself ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: "Oh so I like that too?" ;)
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: why do we try to reduce ourselves like htat?
Wol Euler: If I like broccoli then should I never try another vegetable?
Sunshine Vayandar: we like categories may be
Wol Euler: categories save us from the need to experiment
Wol Euler: perhaps
Wol Euler: saving on risk and on thinking
Sunshine Vayandar: life is action
Sunshine Vayandar: not concepts
Sunshine Vayandar: so I just do ;)
Wol Euler nods
Sunshine Vayandar: trying not to say - good or bad
Wol Euler: I try to, but my inner core of laziness and staying with the known takes some effort to overcome
Wol Euler: buongiorno qt
Wol Euler: (simple example)
Wol Euler: how many new and untried cafes do you walk past to get to your favourite cafe?
Qt Core: 'giorno Wol, hi all
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Qt ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: true Wol
Wol Euler: .
Sunshine Vayandar: when one travels - everything is new
Sunshine Vayandar: so one has to try new things ;)
Wol Euler: yep, and we delight in trying different cafes when we are on holiday
Wol Euler: so why not when we are at home?
Sunshine Vayandar: yes we tend to try all of them ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: exactly ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: how are you Qt ;)
Qt Core: not so good, it is only 10am and i'm already stressed out :-(
Qt Core: you ?
Sunshine Vayandar: but it's sunday
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm I am ok ty
Sunshine Vayandar: hope it improves Qt
Qt Core: i don't count on it, but being pessimist don't help ;-)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Wol Euler: :(
Wol Euler: sorry to hear that, qt.
Wol Euler: hello quendrida, have you been here before?
quendrida Skytower: sorry im late
Qt Core: and to think that the morning or at least the firs 180 seconds were the best in months
Sunshine Vayandar: I was quite stressed for a week - I had to prepare for a workshop at university of pretoria
quendrida Skytower: yes i have popped in before , still trying to get used t the times
Wol Euler: ok, nice to meet you.
Sunshine Vayandar: thank god It's done
quendrida Skytower: hello , nice to see you all
Sunshine Vayandar: hi quendrida
Qt Core: hi quendrida
quendrida Skytower: do we have a subject ?
Wol Euler: sunday-ness?
Wol Euler: not really
quendrida Skytower: oh , gosh yes sunday ness thats a good one
Sunshine Vayandar: and WoW

--BELL--

Wol Euler: and WoW, yes :)
quendrida Skytower: sunday is a lonely day for me , so it is often quite reflective
quendrida Skytower: my son is with his father on the weekends i work only saturdays , so sunday is catch up on chores but i often feel lonely
quendrida Skytower: WOW ? world of warcraft ? or wow as in ajt
Wol Euler nods
Sunshine Vayandar: yes world of warcraft
Wol Euler: yes, world of warcraft
Wol Euler: snap
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
quendrida Skytower: oh i have never played WOW , i have no doubt i will be introduced to something similar soon as my son is growing up fast
Wol Euler smiles.
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Wol Euler: there are many worse games he could play.
Wol Euler: WoW is cartoony-violent rather than bloody realism, and it is played with other people. it is a social game
Qt Core: oh the horror ;-)
Wol Euler laughs.
quendrida Skytower: he plays on his wii alone for now or we play together occasionally. yes i gather it is violent
Wol Euler: well, yes but no. It's not at ALL like the army games you see in ads
Wol Euler: the violence is on the level of TV cartoons
Wol Euler: good morning, arch
quendrida Skytower: my son plays some ganes already that i see a s relatively 'violent' spiderman games
Qt Core: i always found violent film/tv series. toons quite "cathartic" whatching it i would not be violent on people ... that i thought tmay deserve some
quendrida Skytower: but even before he was using a computer he would be throwing rocks and sticks !
Qt Core: hi arch
Wol Euler: um, you're sitting on Cabbage, arch :)
Wol Euler: she's glowy
Sunshine Vayandar: hi Arch ;)
quendrida Skytower: or putting them in his pockets
quendrida Skytower: i dont worry too much about the games my son plays
Archmage Atlantis: Good Morning, All
quendrida Skytower: hello arch
quendrida Skytower: the playground is more physical !
quendrida Skytower: rebaked
Wol Euler: yay, ty
Qt Core: and sometimes kids can be way more evil that pixel demons ;-)
Wol Euler: oh yes :)
quendrida Skytower: indeed they can
Wol Euler: nice hearty-things, cabbage :)
Wol Euler: guten morgen, berti
quendrida Skytower: thank you , some one gave them to me ,
Bertram Jacobus: hiya everybody :-)
Sunshine Vayandar: morgen berty ;)
Qt Core: hi bert
Wol Euler: ty :)
Sunshine Vayandar: brb need to relog
Wol Euler: hb
Bertram Jacobus: hurry ?
Wol Euler: hurry back = hb
Bertram Jacobus: i know. but hurry ? ;o)
Wol Euler: heheh
Wol Euler: wb sun, but you are ghosted
Sunshine Vayandar: ty
Sunshine Vayandar: ;( yes
Bertram Jacobus: ctrl+alt+r sometimes helps ...
Wol Euler nods
Sunshine Vayandar: yes did it
Wol Euler: yep

--BELL--

Bertram Jacobus: there you are again ! :-)
Bertram Jacobus: [oops]
Sunshine Vayandar: hmm ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: looking a bit different ;)
quendrida Skytower: i love a coffee or more on a sunday and a paper
Wol Euler: coffee and Bach and SL for me :)
quendrida Skytower: but i am such a figit i find it hard to relax , im quite full on
quendrida Skytower: SL helps cirb the lonleyness
Bertram Jacobus: coffe and arte and sl here ...
Wol Euler nods.
quendrida Skytower: but there are chores to be caught up on when my son is not here and all the animals to be fed !
Archmage Atlantis: Coffee, paper and Sunday morning news shows....
quendrida Skytower: arte ?
Bertram Jacobus: i find it critical when sl or the net becomes a substitute and nice when it´s an addition ...
Wol Euler: the intellectual arty-theoretical TV station
Bertram Jacobus: arte is a very cultural orientated german-french tv programme here ... (in germany)
quendrida Skytower: yes i need human contact , luckily my son is back later and my parents often visit on a sunday , but not today
quendrida Skytower: my son is back later than ususal and my parents are away , so this sunday is more lonely . . . im not good alone .... but i am getting better at it
quendrida Skytower: arte sounds very interesting
Bertram Jacobus: yes. me too. although i find it sometimes very disturbing and so addicting, contacts seem to be quite essential for group beings as we humans seem to be normally ...
Sunshine Vayandar: not easy to be alone hmm
Wol Euler nods.
quendrida Skytower: i am listening to a good band and now discussing sundays , this is turing out to be a better sundy than expected
Wol Euler: good! :)
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
quendrida Skytower: no alone is painful sometimes
Wol Euler: you were asking about the times, we meet here 1am 7am 1pm 7pm SL time very day
Bertram Jacobus: yes cabbage ! it is - if you can understand german a bit or french ... you can find it in google - they also store lots of their program in the net and you can view it from there ! :-)
quendrida Skytower: thank you Bert
quendrida Skytower: yes i have to work out the uk times and jot them down
quendrida Skytower: 9am sunday am will be easy to recall
Wol Euler: yep
Bertram Jacobus: very welcome cabage and than you ! (for being with us) ... :-)
Bertram Jacobus: thank*
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Archmage Atlantis: I'm starting to wish we used military time here in the US.......I keep getting AM and PM wrong in my calendar program :)
Wol Euler: you can switch your computer to 24 hour clock, surely?
Sunshine Vayandar: i keep mixing up when things are in SL - I almost missed the retreat last night
Archmage Atlantis: Yes.....I'm sure I can.....actually I think I can show both time methods
quendrida Skytower: wewell shops open soon to do my grocery shopping the retreat ?
Archmage Atlantis: I did miss the retreat....somehow I got the time translated wrong for the last meeting
quendrida Skytower: the retreat is ?
Wol Euler: a meditatoin retreat this weekend, here in SL :)
Sunshine Vayandar: it's at 4am - the next session
quendrida Skytower: ah i see
quendrida Skytower: here ? or else where
Archmage Atlantis: 4 AM, 8 AM, 1PM and 4 PM
Wol Euler: we meet 4x a year in RL for week-long retreats
Archmage Atlantis: all SL times
quendrida Skytower: here ?
quendrida Skytower: thank you
Sunshine Vayandar: it's in a skybox
quendrida Skytower: cool
Sunshine Vayandar: very beautiful one ;)
quendrida Skytower: cool its in my faves already
quendrida Skytower: ill check it out
Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
Sunshine Vayandar: it's in 2 hours again
quendrida Skytower: so thats in 2 hours
quendrida Skytower: lol
quendrida Skytower: : )
Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
quendrida Skytower: well best go get my chores done then
Wol Euler: bye cabbage, enjoy the day. It was nice meeting you
Sunshine Vayandar: bbye cabbage take care ;)
Archmage Atlantis: The regular meetings will still be here tho, at the times Wol gave

--BELL--

quendrida Skytower: thank you , i got the times all down in SL time
quendrida Skytower: catch u all soon
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee
Wol Euler: bfn
Bertram Jacobus: i leave. ty for the meeting ! may all beings be happy pls ! ...
Wol Euler: bye bert
Wol Euler: bert, stop
Qt Core: bye bert
Archmage Atlantis: Bye Bert
Wol Euler: which meeting? meditation at Paradise?
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Bert - I go too - ty all
Archmage Atlantis: (and Bye Cabbage, a bit late)
Archmage Atlantis: Bye Sun
Bertram Jacobus: noo - the meeting here i meant - ty for it
Sunshine Vayandar: byebyee Arch bye all
Wol Euler: ah!
Wol Euler: okay
Wol Euler: hehe
Wol Euler: bye sun, bye bert
Bertram Jacobus: okay. sry for may be having expressed myself one more misunderstandable ...
Wol Euler: np
Wol Euler: I misread you, reading too fast
Bertram Jacobus: once more, once again blah ... lol (*disappears*) :o)
Archmage Atlantis: :)
Wol Euler: so :)
Archmage Atlantis: It is the Sun 1 PM meeting missing a GoC
Wol Euler: ah!
Archmage Atlantis: So 13:00
Qt Core: it seems so
Wol Euler: well, I might be here for that. If not, somebody else can take it.
Archmage Atlantis: It conflicts with a retreat meeting for me.
Qt Core: it conflict with the only time in the week i watch tv lately ;-)
Wol Euler: ooh, can't have that :)
Archmage Atlantis: That's probably why no one has responded yet.
Wol Euler: all right, I'll take that
Archmage Atlantis: Time to make coffee & feed the animals, etc, etc
Archmage Atlantis: The paper won't be here for 2 more hours and that's also a retreat time
Qt Core: but as it is usually well attended there should not be problems in finding a goc between them
Wol Euler: you could sit on the porch and get a head start on meditating :)
Wol Euler: true qt.
Archmage Atlantis: Take care of your selves.....and that is a good idea Wol, ty for suggesting it
Wol Euler: :)
Archmage Atlantis: Bye now
Wol Euler: enjoy the day, arch.
Qt Core: bye Arch
Wol Euler: well, qt, just you and me now :)
Wol Euler: I hope your sunday will settle down and de-stress
Qt Core: ty, we'll see
Wol Euler: I'm going to move on. Enjoy the day, take care.
Wol Euler: bye obs, enjoy your sunday too :)
Qt Core: you too, have fum too