2010.11.30 07:00 - Altploration + Which Alt is Shakespeare?

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

All was silent for almost the first half hour.  Then same chat came along.

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Eliza Madrigal: Hi RIddle! What a wonderful and unusal avatar!
Riddle Sideways: Welcome, Eliza

Had my Being Bee apparel on today.
Eliza Madrigal: :) TY
Riddle Sideways: am trying to grok the art project
Eliza Madrigal: very sweet
Riddle Sideways: have read the instructions, but not really get it
Riddle Sideways: lo
Riddle Sideways: lol
Riddle Sideways: was thinking along the BEe lines of thought
Eliza Madrigal: BEeing a Bee
Riddle Sideways: too literal, huh
Eliza Madrigal: Well it does get your poing across... hehe
Eliza Madrigal: Point*
Eliza Madrigal: as in stinger, har har
Riddle Sideways: so, what ar you ging to bee
         Looks like another session of typos :]
Eliza Madrigal: hm...
Riddle Sideways: going*
Eliza Madrigal: Well I tried to sign on as a wolf yesterday
Eliza Madrigal: an avatar I haven't used in a long time
Eliza Madrigal: Not sure if you've met "Ferocious"
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Riddle Sideways washed hands and can't do anthing ith thmn
                  --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: maybe we met long ago
Eliza Madrigal: this is funny... am having a difficult time talking to you ..
Riddle Sideways: remember 2 wolves
Riddle Sideways: and 2 lions
Riddle Sideways: Adelene?
Eliza Madrigal: hm... Gilles is the other wolf that I know.. but I couldnt remember Ferocious's password... Ade was mostly a lion when I saw her...
Eliza Madrigal: people seem to enjoy talking to a giant wolf. that is a bit of what the exloration is about I guess...
Eliza Madrigal: seeing if relationships are different
Riddle Sideways: talking to a wolf is just a bit differant from taling toa dog

     Riddle Sideways: Welcome, Obsererm
Eliza Madrigal: hm, true
     Eliza Madrigal: H Obserm :)
     observerm Resident: hello
     Riddle Sideways: Hi Jan
     Jan Qualia: Hiya
     Eliza Madrigal: Hi Jan :)
     Riddle Sideways: have you been here before?
     Eliza Madrigal: :)
Riddle Sideways: I can't remember
Jan Qualia: yes - I#m an alt :)
      Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
Riddle Sideways: and some(most) are doing alts now
Jan Qualia: you have to guess who :)
      Jan Qualia: Hi Yaku :)
     Riddle Sideways: Hi Yak
     Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yaku :)
     Riddle Sideways: Hi Rickw
     Eliza Madrigal: Hi Rickwell
     Jan Qualia: Hi Rick
     rickwell26 Resident: hello
Eliza Madrigal: I think we need coffee today :)
Riddle Sideways: back
Eliza Madrigal: I'll go get some for myself and be a good influence
         Had to go load something into the van
Riddle Sideways: am a busy bee today
Riddle Sideways: There are so many alts getting into the art project
Riddle Sideways: seems GoC/guardian (at least) has to show up as self
Eliza Madrigal: it seems one f the central ways people explore in sl so wonderful to bring it into pab context and sort of examine the angles
Jan Qualia: didn't know you were in 'On Dialogue group Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Just learned about it last night Jan
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Jan Qualia: I was at it before when Diamket asked me
Eliza Madrigal: was sent an invitation but closed it accidentally, so IMed him and he gave me a tour of the spot... nice place :) he is a talented builder
Jan Qualia: oh yes - that is mostly what he does in SL
Eliza Madrigal: when I first met him in SL he made a sea monster...
Riddle Sideways: how does the location change the chat-ablity
Eliza Madrigal: interesting question... similar to the altploration
Eliza Madrigal: !
         Sure like that new word "altploration"
Jan Qualia: might go tonight if there is a meeting since I am not going to my art club in RL
Jan Qualia: yes - I saw that one too
Eliza Madrigal: I think it can matter a lot actually
Jan Qualia: I like sitting at a fire in an armchair
Jan Qualia: feel this place is a bit cold sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: the little tea hut where pab started is somewhere I still go back sometimes...
     Seems so long ago...  Trying to get up the entrance ramp, open the little door and somehow get inside the little tea hut.  The shift-move keys do not let an av walk through walls in this virtual world like others.  Sitting on some cushions would leave meta-me outside the building staring at the wall.
    However, Pema was at every session.  A very religious monk named Storm would pass out teacups.  My av was the wearing the noobie garb that the entrance portal laughtinly gives out.

Eliza Madrigal: I like the pavillion too though
Riddle Sideways: very open here
Riddle Sideways: when the snow comes it will be colder :)
Jan Qualia: imagine if this was in RL
Eliza Madrigal: :) Riddle
Eliza Madrigal: and warmer too, in a way, because it changes everything....
Eliza Madrigal: engages us in a fresh way
Jan Qualia: you wouls have to shout at others across the pool
Eliza Madrigal: there are little speakers around the edge...don't you see them?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Jan Qualia: and mics?
Riddle Sideways: we had dragons here a few times
Jan Qualia: where's mine?
Eliza Madrigal: not needed... perfect acoustics
Jan Qualia: ah - like the coliseum
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Jan Qualia: shall I give a speech?
Eliza Madrigal: enjoy the dragon avs very much.. have been given a ride before
Jan Qualia: :)
Eliza Madrigal: haha Jan, what shall it be on?
Jan Qualia: 'Friends Romans and countrymen....
Eliza Madrigal: (but they are hard to control, those dragon avs)
Riddle Sideways: lend me your terminals
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Jan Qualia: 'The evil than men do lives after them...
Jan Qualia: that*
Riddle Sideways: men are like that
Jan Qualia: lied Julius Ceasar
Jan Qualia: liked*
Jan Qualia: but he probably lied too
Riddle Sideways: maybe Shakespeare did too?
Eliza Madrigal: lies, damn lies, and statistics...
Riddle Sideways: :)
Eliza Madrigal: (just titled a picture 'riddle bee this' haha)
Yakuzza Lethecus: but, shakespeare himself is a myth in himself
Jan Qualia: why Yaku?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Yakuzza Lethecus: so many believe that there wasn´t A shakespeare
Riddle Sideways: ah, shakespeare the construct
Jan Qualia: somebody wrote great plays anyway :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes ... many ideas around shakespeare and ideas and also that he had a sister who was talented
Eliza Madrigal: that he was a conglomoration of sorts
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakesp...rship_question
Eliza Madrigal: however I prefer to think of him as one sparkling talent
Jan Qualia: why did the name Francic Bacon pop into my head?
Yakuzza Lethecus: new organon ?
Jan Qualia: strange the way memory works
Jan Qualia: organon?
Eliza Madrigal: jan you are less mentally organized than your alt I think...hehhe
Riddle Sideways: when guwstioning reality, shakespeare's existance is a great topic
Jan Qualia: you don't know my alt then :)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Jan Qualia: my alt is veru scatter brained
Eliza Madrigal: the exploration is like the book 'drawing on the right side of the brain' which has one do exercizes with the hand they are not used to using to see what 'new' things/talents emerge
Jan Qualia: and a bad typist too :)
Jan Qualia: ah you read that Eliza
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Eliza Madrigal: try flipping hands , heh
Riddle Sideways: ha... swithching hands / crossing over touch typing DOES NOT work
Eliza Madrigal: hahahah
Eliza Madrigal: worth a shot
Jan Qualia: my RL being has weak hands
Jan Qualia: so I have an excuse
Riddle Sideways: wish I had an excuse
Eliza Madrigal: :) I'm looking for an excuse too... can't all be shakespeare, not even shakespeare
Riddle Sideways: my inventory is a mess. can't find my excuse
Jan Qualia: you are a good typist Eliza
Riddle Sideways: btw - who coined "altploration"?
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes.. but I edit a lot, and make up stuff...
Jan Qualia: funny - I am thinking of a human who manipulates us avs
Eliza Madrigal: like maybe that
Eliza Madrigal: :)
     An interesting discussion point, but am very distrubted by this manipulator being 'yet another' human or even humanoidal.  It don't seem right.
Jan Qualia: he better improve his typing !
Jan Qualia: he is letting me down
Jan Qualia: making me look silly
Jan Qualia: not cool at all
Riddle Sideways: the manipulator needs coffee before operating heavy controls
Jan Qualia: better get his act together or I'm outta here
Eliza Madrigal: considering that looking for the real shakespeare is like looking for the 'i'...
Eliza Madrigal: strange morning :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, very simular

Jan Qualia: very simulating :)
Riddle Sideways: what if in a hundred years. they went looking for the real Eliza or Jan author/manipulator
Eliza Madrigal: wow yes... someone read all these chat logs .... these alts could have mythologies
Riddle Sideways: is there enough PaB wiki logs to reconstruct who was the author
Jan Qualia: I'm really Will Shakespeare
Eliza Madrigal: to Bee or not to Be
Riddle Sideways: :)

Jan Qualia: some can tell gender and age from conversations
Jan Qualia: :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, that seems a talent
Jan Qualia: but I can't
Eliza Madrigal: I can sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: but don't necessarily try too much
Riddle Sideways: yes, when yak started remembering the reninanse we knew he is very old

Jan Qualia: do you think my alt is changing me?
Eliza Madrigal: hm... that will take me a months of notes to figure out Jan
Eliza Madrigal: yes...
Eliza Madrigal: Ya gave himself away
Riddle Sideways: bad speeling can give us away too
Eliza Madrigal: and that he never takes off his pab pajamas
Riddle Sideways: my next alt will have to type/spell better
Eliza Madrigal: good idea
Jan Qualia: and only wears one shoe
Eliza Madrigal: he put the one shoe on when he thought about changing...
Riddle Sideways: hows does he do that
Eliza Madrigal: was going shopping and then found a new philosophy talk
Jan Qualia: we should donate the money so he can buy another shoe
Eliza Madrigal: then we'd have to change the book title
Jan Qualia: oh - one shoeness is a philosophy?
Yakuzza Lethecus: well
Yakuzza Lethecus: there is always just one shoe in the box as long as you don´t pay :P
Jan Qualia: if you run out of the shoe shop
Eliza Madrigal: ah, so it is a stolen shoe!
Eliza Madrigal: gasp!
Jan Qualia: you have to go to another and try on a different foot
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Eliza Madrigal: well you are an honest theif ya, teling us like this, openly on the chat log
Jan Qualia: hard to run fast with just one shoe
Riddle Sideways: we are ALL waiting for the other shoe to drop
Eliza Madrigal: so we can put it on ya
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, no i mentioned before that this was a bug when i came to secondlife initially
Yakuzza Lethecus: but i was totally black
Jan Qualia: Yaku getting hopping mad
Yakuzza Lethecus: no white socks and even the head
Yakuzza Lethecus: but only 1 shoe
Eliza Madrigal: it chose you
Yakuzza Lethecus: i only changed a few things from that
Eliza Madrigal: I have to go... good fun, thank you...
Eliza Madrigal: bye for now
Jan Qualia: bye Eliza
Riddle Sideways: bye El
Eliza Madrigal: _/i\_ .·:*´¨`*:·. .·:*´¨`*:·.namaste everyone! .·:*´¨`*:·. .·:*´¨`*:·. _/i\_
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Riddle Sideways: I need to step back too
Jan Qualia: ok I'll go too
Riddle Sideways: please keep chatting tho
Jan Qualia: thanks for discussion
Riddle Sideways: yes, thank you all
Jan Qualia: bye
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone